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creativename | Posted 11/30/2010 9:22:55 PM | message detail
Saying what Kingdom Hearts was expected to do last year against VC isn't much more relevant than saying what RE4 was expected to do against VC. Not the same VC.

From: PartOfYourWorld | #1455
Remember that RE4 60/40'D HL2 last time. It's das beast.

The only thing keeping me from taking it over FFX was the night match. Such a *****.


I really don't want to see RE4>FFX happen, but before the contest that was one of the biggest things I had thought people weren't discussing enough. I thought GSC had potential, but I thought RE4 deserved more hype for beating FFX than GSC (especially since GSC was far from a lock in its own division).
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methedemon | Posted 11/30/2010 9:23:20 PM | message detail
RE4> Melee would be even sicker
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/30/2010 9:23:36 PM | message detail
Man, RE4 > FFX is all kinds of silly, but it's hard to ignore FFX underperforming twice against day-based games, while RE4 does this.
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creativename | Posted 11/30/2010 9:25:30 PM | message detail
I just realized that the next two matches are pretty debated, and then you have the vaguely debated PM vs. WoW match soon after. Strange, considering we've been in a huge stretch of predictable winners with GS/SA the only exception.
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/30/2010 9:25:57 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #202
The performances of the GTA games this contest are more than anything that happened last contest, I believe. The GTA games look to have clearly lost a step as a whole.


Either they lost a step or they overperform like all hell in four-ways.

Either way, now I'm thinking GTA III may be the one GTA that's a notce above the others. Chances are more people played GTA 3 over all its sequels considering it was the FFVII of its series.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/30/2010 9:27:02 PM | message detail

From: kinsho3 | #305
Chances are more people played GTA 3 over all its sequels considering it was the FFVII of its series.


Well I can factually state more people played the sequels since they sold more copies >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/30/2010 9:27:04 PM | message detail
GTA3 is probably benefiting a decent bit from the contest name. It's one of those games in the bracket that people might feel is worthy of being called Game of the Decade.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/30/2010 9:27:15 PM | message detail
Oh damn, this might stay above 70. Star of the week!!!
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/30/2010 9:27:24 PM | message detail
the one GTA that's a notch above the others.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/30/2010 9:28:00 PM | message detail
Whoa just noticed that Asia isn't voting for Vice City, those guys tend to go crazy for GTA.

That's because of the Philippines, where RE4 has 92.86% there. The rest of Asia is dragging down RE4's percentage in the Philippines.
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IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/30/2010 9:28:10 PM | message detail
RE4 is gonna crush next round even harder (?) so we're waiting until RE4 vs Portal to see a match with it that isn't a complete blowout?

I'm still not sure on MP v. HL2. I've been feeling good about HL2 ever since MP laid an egg against DMC3.

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kinsho3 | Posted 11/30/2010 9:29:22 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #206
Well I can factually state more people played the sequels since they sold more copies >_>


...Half-Life 2 is ****ed. All GTA 3 has going for it is its impact on gaming, but I'm still not sure whether voters really consider that when voting.
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creativename | Posted 11/30/2010 9:30:42 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #1503
Man, RE4 > FFX is all kinds of silly, but it's hard to ignore FFX underperforming twice against day-based games, while RE4 does this.


Well the one thing here is, people talk about night-based games, but FFX was trending upwards to the end in both matches. FFX seems to be an "anything but the Power Hour" game.

Unfortunately for FFX, since the Power Hour is so important in night matches due to the low vote totals - and RE4 looks to have a very good Power Hour - it's quite possible that a 12 hour night match is the worst-case scenario for it against RE4. It might actually do better in both a 24 match, and a day match.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 11/30/2010 9:31:54 PM | message detail
At least we're finally rid of all those worthless Grand Theft Auto games. Now if only we can do the same to those Zelda games
kinsho3 | Posted 11/30/2010 9:33:36 PM | message detail

From: IngmarBirdman | #211
I'm still not sure on MP v. HL2. I've been feeling good about HL2 ever since MP laid an egg against DMC3.


MP didn't really lay an egg against DMC3. It did what was expected. At this point, I don't think anybody can accurately gauge MP's strength. Its match with Okami will be good measuring stick, though, especially considering Okami is a decent opponent for MP. It might be able to bring MP under 60%.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/30/2010 9:33:42 PM | message detail
I wish RE4 impressed when I took it over Twilight Princess last year =/
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creativename | Posted 11/30/2010 9:34:50 PM | message detail

From: IngmarBirdman | #1551
RE4 is gonna crush next round even harder (?) so we're waiting until RE4 vs Portal to see a match with it that isn't a complete blowout?

I'm still not sure on MP v. HL2. I've been feeling good about HL2 ever since MP laid an egg against DMC3.


Oh wow, RE4 is facing P4/DR winner? Damn. RE4 might have a decent shot at 60/40ing Portal too.

MP didn't lay an egg vs DMC3, it did about expected.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/30/2010 9:36:02 PM | message detail
Man...

RE4 would absolutely murder Dead Rising. It could beat it worse than it did Jet Grind Radio.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/30/2010 9:36:59 PM | message detail
RE4/DR: The new Link/Ganondorf.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/30/2010 9:39:11 PM | message detail
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/30/2010 9:47:25 PM | message detail
Vice City finally cracked 30%.

I'm telling ya, man: if Lance Vance was in the match pic, it would have been above 30% in the first place!

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JaKyL25 | Posted 11/30/2010 9:48:06 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #321
Vice City finally cracked 30%.

I'm telling ya, man: if Lance Vance was in the match pic, it would have been above 30% in the first place!


Or we could just throw "CJ" in there and claim it's Lance Vance.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/30/2010 9:52:32 PM | message detail
Not-CJ for Character Battle '11!

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JaKyL25 | Posted 11/30/2010 9:53:31 PM | message detail
Not-CJ vs. Midgar Zolom

Who you got?
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/30/2010 9:54:43 PM | message detail

From: JaKyL25 | #324
Not-CJ vs. Midgar Zolom

Who you got?


RacistFAQs wins
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/30/2010 9:56:38 PM | message detail
Not-CJ
Midgar Zolom
Jay Solano
Milk Nukem

Greatest four-way match of all time.

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JaKyL25 | Posted 11/30/2010 9:57:15 PM | message detail
Would it be against the ToU to do a Zolomy ASCII with KKK headwear?
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pjbasis | Posted 11/30/2010 9:57:50 PM | message detail
Take that FFX.

But damn my bracket.
swordz9 | Posted 11/30/2010 10:05:01 PM | message detail
This match is already looking boring since GTA:VC has no chance. So what do people think of the next match now?
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JaKyL25 | Posted 11/30/2010 10:06:32 PM | message detail
Bracket says Dead Rising
Head says Persona 4
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/30/2010 10:07:23 PM | message detail

From: swordz9 | #229
This match is already looking boring since GTA:VC has no chance. So what do people think of the next match now?


I have Dead Rising in my bracket and battle. I just don't believe Persona 4 > TWEWY.
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pjbasis | Posted 11/30/2010 10:07:40 PM | message detail
For some reason I got Dead Rising in my Oracle.

Battle and bracket say otherwise.

Don't feel inclined to change anything.
legendmusketeer | Posted 11/30/2010 10:08:06 PM | message detail
Persona 4 for both.(I'd bank but I haven't saved up enough yet)
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Big Bob | Posted 11/30/2010 10:11:00 PM | message detail
It all comes down to how much stronger than TWEWY Persona 4 is. It's got plenty of advantages: Bigger sales (correct me if I'm wrong), more critical acclaim, a teensy bit of franchise recognition...

Of course, it's a day match, but we just saw Persona 3 gain against FFIX, and Braid's technically an Xbox game. But as far as I'm concerned, the match is a total toss-up.
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swordz9 | Posted 11/30/2010 10:12:41 PM | message detail
I'm just wondering if the people who thought DR was just about a lock feel differently now. Would anybody have taken Dead Rising to get 31% on Final Fantasy IX in a day match?
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/30/2010 10:15:25 PM | message detail

From: swordz9 | #225
I'm just wondering if the people who thought DR was just about a lock feel differently now. Would anybody have taken Dead Rising to get 31% on Final Fantasy IX in a day match?


Yeah, sure, why not? FFIX is likely a midcarder. It doesn't take much strength to get 30+% against a midcarder.

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kinsho3 | Posted 11/30/2010 10:16:27 PM | message detail
Speaking of sales, what are the sales numbers of TWEWY and Persona 4?
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swordz9 | Posted 11/30/2010 10:19:09 PM | message detail
I'm not too sure how reliable vgchartz is, but it lists TWEWY as 530,000~ worldwide and Persona 4 as 695,000~ worldwide.
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-Tofa7- | Posted 11/30/2010 10:21:32 PM | message detail
I almost wish i lost all my points on Golden Sun vs GTA instead of having to go through with picking a winner and risking a crap load of points on Persona or Dead Rising. I don't feel confident with either.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 11/30/2010 10:42:11 PM | message detail
I'm at 63100 right now and betting on Persona. I'm not planning on banking until KH/KH2.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/30/2010 11:49:39 PM | message detail
GTA is doing much better in Europe and Oceania, so this could end up around a doubling. That's not as good as the shellacking we saw earlier, but I think it's definitely good enough for us to start considering RE4 giving FFX a fight.

Assuming FFX = RE4 and RE4 finishes with 67% here, then Vice City would score about 56% on Borderlands. That doesn't seem unreasonable.
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/1/2010 1:50:03 AM | message detail
why did i pick vice over re4? lost 36000 points gargh
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/1/2010 1:50:51 AM | message detail
Well, this epic nighttime collapse is making me feel better.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/1/2010 1:53:05 AM | message detail
Yeah. FFX is going to murder RE4 at night.
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transcience | Posted 12/1/2010 3:01:26 AM | message detail
I have yet to see this fearful ffx night vote. it's not like it murdered Borderlands or Viewtiful Joe with it. ffx has been assumed that it's like past years but we've yet to see it -- kind of like how we're not seeing great results from it this year.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/1/2010 3:07:46 AM | message detail

From: transcience | #345
I have yet to see this fearful ffx night vote. it's not like it murdered Borderlands or Viewtiful Joe with it. ffx has been assumed that it's like past years but we've yet to see it -- kind of like how we're not seeing great results from it this year.


I'm less saying that because of FFX and more saying that because RE is getting slaughtered at night by Vice City here.
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transcience | Posted 12/1/2010 3:11:52 AM | message detail
GTA starts so low with the early vote that it's got nowhere to go but up. this has happened in every gta match, I think.
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xp1337 | Posted 12/1/2010 3:20:47 AM | message detail
Well, the next two matches probably decide the fate of my entire Battle Challenge. I've got 59,500 at risk right now, and if I get past Persona 4/Dead Rising and FFXII/Portal, I think I may be in pretty good shape until KH/KH2, which might just be enough to end up on the final leaderboard or even to place.

I feel about as good as I possibly can about Persona 4 (which naturally means it's in serious trouble) but it's FFXII/Portal that is worrying me. Maybe because I have FFXII right now. If only Portal did a little worse in R1...
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/1/2010 3:23:44 AM | message detail
Hey not bad for GTA.I thought things would be worse.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/1/2010 3:28:05 AM | message detail

From: transcience | #347
GTA starts so low with the early vote that it's got nowhere to go but up. this has happened in every gta match, I think.


I guess you're right. Still though this was over 80% during the board vote.
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