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Yeah, the contest would have been pretty boring if Starcraft didn't win.
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Gorilla warfare sounds pretty epic.

I imagine armored gorillas riding bears into battle.

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By this logic, Oblivion is an FPS.

Not everything in FP perspective is a "shooter". I suspect you've never played Portal.

Ulti, you make some crazy posts, but this is about the stupidest fallical reasoning I've seen from you, ever.

And Albion, shut up.
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you really should just give up. trying to argue that a puzzle game is a shooter isn't gonna end well.
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Starcraft might have cheated in the previous matches, but it definitely wasn't the same type of cheating as the Melee match. We all saw that one with the enormous spike in total votes in one update, and I find it hard to believe that the cheater(s) just got stupid all of a sudden.
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So God of War is a puzzle game too, I guess.
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Dragon Age's performance here is easily the worst of R2, and it very well could be the worst of the entire contest. Absolutely godawful.

This also makes F-Zero GX look really, really freaking bad... bollocks. :(

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Melee > Brawl

either you're massively trolling or you've never played portal

which one is it
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From: Greyfeld | #056
So God of War is a puzzle game too, I guess.

what the f*** are you even talking about
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

So God of War is a puzzle game too, I guess.


what

what words are you even saying anymore

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Dragon Age's performance here is easily the worst of R2, and it very well could be the worst of the entire contest. Absolutely godawful.

This also makes F-Zero GX look really, really freaking bad... bollocks. :(

eh, it kinda makes sense. Most of the other 2009 games have looked pretty bad too, while DAO looks good round 1... turns out it was just facing something that was just super fodder
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From: TheCodeisBosco | #057
Dragon Age's performance here is easily the worst of R2, and it very well could be the worst of the entire contest. Absolutely godawful.

This also makes F-Zero GX look really, really freaking bad... bollocks. :(

TP is legit.
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Greyfield-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_shooter
"First-person shooter (FPS) is a video game genre which centers the gameplay around gun and projectile weapon-based combat through the first person perspective; i.e., the player experiences the action through the eyes of a protagonist."

There. There is no gun and projectile based weapon combat in Portal. Alright?
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I can just imagine the typical gears of war player playing portal

"Wtf why cant i shoot things? wtf is this puzzle s***, i just wanna kill stuff"
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I can see where he's coming from GameFAQs lists it as the same type of game as Halo.

PC » Action » Shooter » First-Person » Sci-Fi

Of course playing the game you can see it's not the case.
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From: NoDicePwn | #064
I can just imagine the typical gears of war player playing portal

"Wtf why cant i shoot things? wtf is this puzzle s***, i just wanna kill stuff"

What an incredibly accurate and witty stereotype
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Greyfield-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_shooter
"First-person shooter (FPS) is a video game genre which centers the gameplay around gun and projectile weapon-based combat through the first person perspective; i.e., the player experiences the action through the eyes of a protagonist."

There. There is no gun and projectile based weapon combat in Portal. Alright?

Let's see:

1. Gun - Check
2. Projectile - Check (sorry, portals fit the projectile category)
3. First Person View - Check
4. Combat - Check

Sounds like an FPS to me. Oh, and just because you don't actually shoot the drones, or Glados, doesn't make it "not combat." Especially since the wide majority of the conflict is handled via shooting portals to reach/move/throw your enemies.

At the very least it's a Puzzler/FPS hybrid.
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eh, it kinda makes sense. Most of the other 2009 games have looked pretty bad too, while DAO looks good round 1... turns out it was just facing something that was just super fodder

This result makes me sick to my stomach about Uncharted > Halo, that's for sure. :\

I figured F-Zero GX was fodder, but I never expected it to be weaker than Eternal Darkness and the like. That just totally baffles me.

TP is legit.

I never, never thought I'd say this... but after seeing this performance, I absolutely think TP has a better chance of defeating Melee than Brawl does.

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Melee > Brawl... but there might be a Twilight Princess in the way!

Portal involves shooting things in first person view. fps is fine by me, even if it isn't traditional.

all gears players are stupid lol
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iphonesience

I can see where he's coming from GameFAQs lists it as the same type of game as Halo.

PC » Action » Shooter » First-Person » Sci-Fi

Of course playing the game you can see it's not the case.

Obviously it has a completely different type of gameplay from your standard FPS. I'm not arguing about that at all.

However, I don't think it's any sort of stretch to imagine that your average FPS gamer has played Portal, and is subject to SFF as such. The same way that you might see LBP and Braid share a fanbase (casual platformers, anyone?), despite one being a genre hybrid.
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From: TheCodeisBosco | #068
I never, never thought I'd say this... but after seeing this performance, I absolutely think TP has a better chance of defeating Melee than Brawl does.

Either one needs to happen because only then does FFX have a chance.
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Brawl already beat TP easily. TP's doing great but let's be reasonable.
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iphonesience

Braid is a casual platformer?

f*** the what
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Greyfield-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_shooter
"First-person shooter (FPS) is a video game genre which centers the gameplay around gun and projectile weapon-based combat through the first person perspective; i.e., the player experiences the action through the eyes of a protagonist."

There. There is no gun and projectile based weapon combat in Portal. Alright?

Let's see:

1. Gun - Check
2. Projectile - Check (sorry, portals fit the projectile category)
3. First Person View - Check
4. Combat - Check

Sounds like an FPS to me. Oh, and just because you don't actually shoot the drones, or Glados, doesn't make it "not combat." Especially since the wide majority of the conflict is handled via shooting portals to reach/move/throw your enemies.

At the very least it's a Puzzler/FPS hybrid.


"centers the gameplay around gun and projectile weapon-based combat through the first person perspective" The gameplay isn't centered around combat, it just has some combat occasionally. It has less actual first-person shooting than Banjo-Tooie.
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Brawl already beat TP easily. TP's doing great but let's be reasonable.

Brawl would most likely still defeat TP, but an upset definitely isn't impossible. Brawl's reputation has gone down considerably since the 2009 contest.

If nothing else, TP will probably resist Melee's SFF better!

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CURRENT GOTY SCORE: 83
Melee > Brawl... but there might be a Twilight Princess in the way!

Greyfield.Stop embarassing yourself. Using GF to prove something is the worst thing anyone could do. Portal is as much as a FPS as Zelda is a racing game.
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CJayC's statement there doesn't really imply that Starcraft cheated outside the Melee match, because he's saying right there that he couldn't prove it. Legitimate rallying would produce a lot of extra votes from Korea too, and from a diverse range of IP addresses. The Vercetti thing was more suspicious because there didn't seem to be any reason to coordinate a massive rally for Vercetti from China at the end of that poll, after Kefka had already had his stuffed votes removed.
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The gameplay isn't centered around combat, it just has some combat occasionally. It has less actual first-person shooting than Banjo-Tooie.

Oh you mean the same way Mass Effect isn't centered around combat, but is still considered a RPG/TPS hybrid?
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Greyfield.Stop embarassing yourself. Using GF to prove something is the worst thing anyone could do. Portal is as much as a FPS as Zelda is a racing game.

Which is a horrible comparison, since there are zero racing elements in the average zelda game.
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It would be closer to people calling Zelda an RPG.
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From: Greyfeld | #078
Oh you mean the same way Mass Effect isn't centered around combat,

It isn't?
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From: transcience | #069
Portal involves shooting things in first person view. fps is fine by me, even if it isn't traditional.

all gears players are stupid lol

No. lol.
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gosh, TP means srs bizness.
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And i know this is 5 years ago blah blah but

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1662

This was when FFVII put 54% on OoT. Melee is a beast.
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So, who would take FF12 to put 60% on Paper Mario: TTYD?
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I missed a 'Zelda fans are drones' conversation? Aw.

Dragon Age would be doing a good bit better here if it was a night match. Check out Europe and Asia.

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Europe, more like Mega Drive center.
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Pfft, can't even win in Asia, GoW2 was getting something like 63% on WW.
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Wow. I wake up and almost 70% TP?
Jesus, I really wish people weren't such Nintendo-Square-Enix mindless voters on this website.
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From: EvilNcr | #089
Wow. I wake up and almost 70% TP?
Jesus, I really wish people weren't such Nintendo-Square-Enix mindless voters on this website.

More people have played TP, they haven't palyed DA..so why would they vote for DA(unless they were antivoting TP) if they haven't palyed it? That's pretty much wht i expected maybe a few % more than i thought. DA was never going to compete with a top tier Zelda game, it's barely been a year since it came out.
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Safe your outrage for when a good game is losing lol
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It's funny how TP seems almost wasted in this bracket despite being challenged to even win its division. The KH rep is no easy opponent; it's probably the 5th-6th strongest entrant in this bracket. TP would take RE4 or any MGS with ease, but it has almost no chance against Melee or Brawl. Knowing that, KH is actually a decent opponent. Only Final Fantasy X would have been better.
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I saw some TP>FFX discussion in the last topic. I myself would've favored TP slightly over FFX before the contest. (wouldn't have picked it in my bracket out of bias, but I would've favored TP) It got 46.42% against Brawl directly, and would probably be closer to 48% indirectly. I wouldn't have pegged FFX to match that, I personally think the Smash game will beat FFX convincingly assuming FFX makes the final (although my vote will definitely be for FFX, one of my favorite games ever and a much more worthy GOTD than a Smash game).

Ulti
Ctrl + F "HGSS"

huh

...huh to you too. I have no idea what you're trying to say?


xp1337
Would you have pulled the trigger on TP vs. FFX in a day match?

There is no way FFX could be favored over TP in a day match, even before today. Not that it would have no chance, but, I don't see how people could argue it was the favorite. The games were always close and both have opposite trends.


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Oh yeah, the "all Zelda final four" hype. That was good times.

Ah yes! Haha I remember that well. Just look at these round 1 performances:

The Legend of Zelda - 95.20% on Adventure
A Link to the Past - 91.15% on Gunstar Heroes
Ocarina of Time - 86.31% on Fallout 2
The Wind Waker - 74.71% on Skies of Arcadia

Then in round 2, The Legend of Zelda got 87.04% on Donkey Kong and A Link to the Past got 74% on Super Metroid, and Ocarina of Time got 76.26% on Super Mario 64. Zelda didn't show any remote hint of weakness until Wind Waker's 55.22% on Metroid Prime.

ZeldaFEAR had never been higher than after round 1. Looking back, it probably peaked after the OoT/SM64 match.


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I don't think anyone even cared when all those Zelda games lost except for LttP maybe. People were happy their brackets were saved in the 8-Bit and 32/64 Bit Division, and people were all aboard the Starcraft train.

Indeed, I don't remember any uproar when the Zelda games lost, people were quite content with it. The only one some people were upset about was Starcraft/Wind Waker, but that's solely because Starcraft was cheating. If WW lost legit, no one would have cared, because it was Wind Waker.
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Does anyone remember this?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1618

Loved that day.
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I remember the day before where it was 55-45. Some of us thought Pokemon GSC had a chance because the casuals would favour Pokemon.
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It's funny how TP seems almost wasted in this bracket despite being challenged to even win its division. The KH rep is no easy opponent; it's probably the 5th-6th strongest entrant in this bracket. TP would take RE4 or any MGS with ease, but it has almost no chance against Melee or Brawl. Knowing that, KH is actually a decent opponent. Only Final Fantasy X would have been better.

Yeah, I think the problem is the incredibly lopsided divisions, mainly the incredibly pathetic North Division, which about half of the other division final losers could probably win outright. Then you have the stacked South and Southeast, a respectable South and Southwest, a respectable "All MGS 24/7!" (aka the West Division), the mediocre Northeast, and an average but exciting Northwest.

Just switch a couple of the North division games with something like MGS3 or one of the Kingdom Hearts games, or even Wind Waker or Final Fantasy 9, and this contest is substantially better.
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It is too bad Fallout 3 will be one of the weakest semifinalist contestant ever.

Oh well...what should KH get on MW2 to look like a worthy rival?

From: Greyfeld | #067
1. Gun - Check
2. Projectile - Check (sorry, portals fit the projectile category)
3. First Person View - Check
4. Combat - Check

Sounds like an FPS to me.

So Oblivion is an FPS because your character can equip a weapon that shoots arrows?

LMFAO
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Portal's a puzzle-game disguised as a FPS. I'm okay if people just want to call it a FPS, but arguing it SFF'd Gears 2 feels forced. Portal got big because it's hardly like anything else you've seen from a FPS, while the Gears-series started as a third-person shooter to help tide shooter-fans over between CoD2 and Halo 3. Portal's largely a PC-phenomenon with other platforms while Gears is a 360-exclusive series. I'd take Portal > MP personally, and MP 60-40'd PM. I'd then take PM > PM:TTYD, and PM:TTYD 60-40'd Gears...and I'd take Gears > Gears 2 to finish this off.

Considering that and all of Gears 2's competition in the vote-ins aside from Soul Calibur 2 (which isn't that shocking of an exception despite losing to Gears 2 in the poll), Portal pretty naturally should beat down Gears 2 -- we just didn't know it was supposed to go down like that. SFF feels unlikely given the already-big gap between them and knowing the night-match helped favor Portal against Gears 2, and their lack of similarities doesn't help matters either.


Also, since somebody tried to do an impersonation of a shooter-fan playing Portal, here's an anecdote: I met somebody who a huge CoD/Madden-fan and was super-stoned the other night, and we got to talking about video games. I brought up the Orange Box and how Portal tells a story like you've rarely ever seen in a video game, and he was quiet for a second...before saying something along the lines of "I know I was all like s************* when I went through those things there at the beginning." He then went back to CoD-talk!
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