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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:07:48 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #447
I disagree, while I haven't met anyone that would date me because I'm a gamer I haven't found anyone that dumped me when they found out that I was one.

People who are socially awkward play videogames and those are the people that are out of luck.


You also come from a way different (and awesome) perspective, assuming that topic you made about the parade was true.

And yeah, socially awkward people play games and tend to go on forums to deny their being socially awkward is why they can't pick up chicks. That's seriously the only point I'm trying to make here, which isn't unfair by any standard. So of course people will bash me for pointing it out and call me a jerk, for obvious reasons.

How did we even get on this subject again? You know the match is boring when we're talking about the social ramifications of embracing one's inner nerd at the expense of everything else.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/28/2010 2:08:26 PM | message detail
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:08:40 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #450
You guys are obsessed with women.


Used to be. The wife doesn't let me sleep around anymore <_<

Which she loves, because she gets all my extra energy these days.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:10:51 PM | message detail

From: Greyfeld | #452
you have no idea what you're talking about


Don't be a hypocrite, k?

You: "I feel sorry for you closet gamers that feel the need to hide your hobbies to avoid the horrible "shunning" of the public."

So many false assumptions there, and then you turn around and tell me not to assume things? LMFAO
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:11:46 PM | message detail
And speak of the devil, LL is running the significant other poll:

Yes, and we're married. 4.39%
78
Yes, and we're engaged. 10.02%
178
Yes, but we're not that serious. 24.37%
433
No, although I used to have one. 35.40%
629
No, and I've never had one. 25.83%
459
TOTAL VOTES 1777


"Yes, and we're married" is totally the best option!
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/28/2010 2:19:09 PM | message detail
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/28/2010 2:20:57 PM | message detail
Both of you, shut the f*** up. No one cares how much sex you are or aren't having. Can we all go back to talking about fictional characters now?
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ZFS | Posted 11/28/2010 2:24:22 PM | message detail
Good lord. Why is Ulti always at the root of these dumb arguments.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:24:37 PM | message detail
The heck did I do, Shoto? I'm like Bill O'Reilly, baby -- only dealing in fact.
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swordz9 | Posted 11/28/2010 2:24:41 PM | message detail
Dead Rising vs Persona 4 is definitely a match I can agree will be interesting. I want to say I feel like P4 is stronger than TWEWY so I think it has a decent shot at pulling off an upset. If I remember right DR only beat TWEWY by a little bit. What game do most people have winning this match? I think it's probably one of the R2 matches with the closest chance of an upset.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/28/2010 2:25:06 PM | message detail
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/28/2010 2:27:11 PM | message detail
Man, I was just about to post my 3,000 word essay on why Mass Effect's Asari are hotter than Star Wars' Twi'leks, but this discussion has hurt my self-confidence too badly.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/28/2010 2:27:18 PM | message detail
Dead Rising vs Persona 4 is definitely a match I can agree will be interesting. I want to say I feel like P4 is stronger than TWEWY so I think it has a decent shot at pulling off an upset. If I remember right DR only beat TWEWY by a little bit. What game do most people have winning this match? I think it's probably one of the R2 matches with the closest chance of an upset.

I have DR in my bracket, but I'm taking P4 in my battle pick. The Guru is pretty evenly split between the two, so that doesn't really provide any help. I don't think there'd be any debate if this was a night match, but I think even as a day match, P4 is significantly stronger than TWEWY so that we'll be looking at something like a 52/48 win for P4.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/28/2010 2:27:36 PM | message detail
Dead Rising vs Persona 4 is definitely a match I can agree will be interesting. I want to say I feel like P4 is stronger than TWEWY so I think it has a decent shot at pulling off an upset. If I remember right DR only beat TWEWY by a little bit. What game do most people have winning this match? I think it's probably one of the R2 matches with the closest chance of an upset.

I had TWEWY winning so I'm favouring DR. Personally I feel that FFIX/P3 will help out in this match.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:28:40 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #458
Good lord. Why is Ulti always at the root of these awesome arguments.


Fixed.

And it's not even an argument. All I said is the typical gamer can't pick up the typical girl, because the typical girl opts for a more powerful type of partner to get the best offspring possible. This is just straight genetics meets society stuff, and I don't think anyone here denies being a gamer is frowned upon by society. The only issue are people predictably chiming in like they're the exception when they're clearly not (well Lightning Strikes might be, dude's manly as f***).

Hell, I'm not even the exception to this. I just got super lucky.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:29:48 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #462
Man, I was just about to post my 3,000 word essay on why Mass Effect's Asari are hotter than Star Wars' Twi'leks, but this discussion has hurt my self-confidence too badly.


As if the MANLIEST user here (well, you're tied with Shoto) could have such a problem!
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WhiteLens | Posted 11/28/2010 2:29:56 PM | message detail

From: swordz9 | #460
If I remember right DR only beat TWEWY by a little bit. What game do most people have winning this match? I think it's probably one of the R2 matches with the closest chance of an upset.


The one real argument on this is that Dead Rising started to pull away from TWEWY once the morning hit, and since it's a day match it's not in favorable conditions for Persona 4.
The question is, how much stronger is P4 than TWEWY.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:30:46 PM | message detail

From: swordz9 | #460
Dead Rising vs Persona 4 is definitely a match I can agree will be interesting. I want to say I feel like P4 is stronger than TWEWY so I think it has a decent shot at pulling off an upset. If I remember right DR only beat TWEWY by a little bit. What game do most people have winning this match? I think it's probably one of the R2 matches with the closest chance of an upset.


Dead Rising is clearly a day game, if the last round is any indication. If this was all 24 hours matches, I'd probably think Persona > DR > TWEWY. But 12 day hours and I think DR takes it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:31:33 PM | message detail

From: Greyfeld | #461
As koolaid said, this isn't really the place to have this discussion. And I have the distinct feeling that I'm just being trolled. And even if I'm not, the argument isn't worth having with somebody who is so narrow minded.


I'm not even making fun of you, sheesh. Good new stats topic guys are supposed to stick around for awhile.
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EvilNcr | Posted 11/28/2010 2:33:49 PM | message detail
Most guys are gamers anyway so it's just another bad excuse.
I can't pick up chicks either but at least, I'm not using bad excuses on WHY I'm not doing it.
Hell, I barely even try anymore. Last time I tried, I tried to get some date through a friend and it didn't work out. (Or he forgot, I'm not sure which).
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/28/2010 2:34:56 PM | message detail
I'm not even making fun of you, sheesh. Good new stats topic guys are supposed to stick around for awhile.

Admittedly, text makes it hard to determine "tone" when having a discussion, but it seemed pretty "you're a loser, accept it" to me. Extremely offensive, especially since I only just broke up with my ex a couple months ago because she was more in love with me than I was with her.

Not sure what the second half of the quoted text is supposed to imply though.
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swordz9 | Posted 11/28/2010 2:38:48 PM | message detail
How is Persona's day and night vote anyways? It doesn't seem like there would be much information to work with for that due to the games only appearing in maybe 3 contest matches ever now. I'm just going to assume that if Persona 3 does respectably against a game of Final Fantasy IX's level then Persona 4 should have a decent chance of taking out Dead Rising. I'm not quite sure what percentage would look respectable though since P3 is probably getting doubled or tripled if I had to guess.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/28/2010 2:47:08 PM | message detail
Persona does better at night, with a fantastic Asian vote, and a decent vote from Europe and Oceana. DR is expected to have a decent day vote due to winning from the morning vote against TWEWY. But considering it only won with less than 700 votes, even after the morning vote kicked in, I have serious doubts about its actual strength.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3164

2 1/2 years ago, TWEWY barely edges out P3. However, since then we've had the release of P3 on the PSP, and P4 in all regions. Also, there's no evidence to support the theory, but many of us believe P4 is stronger than P3.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/28/2010 2:52:16 PM | message detail
I wouldn't use that poll since people tend not to flock to remakes.

Plus there's the whole thing about both games got a combine 8% in that poll.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:53:08 PM | message detail
I don't buy P4 being stronger than 3, despite being preferred by the fanbase. It was one of the absolute last PS2 games (so it sold like 10 copies), while P3 has gotten two releases and has the "older games have an advantage" thing.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/28/2010 2:56:03 PM | message detail
Considering the lack of poll information we have to work on, it's pretty much the best we have. All we really need is a comparison to work off of though, not an actual strength rating, and with a lack of any other RPGs in the poll, the SFF should be minimal.

Also, I know remakes don't always go over as well as the original, but FES seemed to have gotten a lot of love, so it's not to far-fetched to believe that a handheld port could have turned a few heads as well. Granted, a port isn't going to cause a huge swing in votes, but in potentially close matches like the one coming up, it can make the difference.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/28/2010 2:56:13 PM | message detail
I think P4 sold more than P3 (or at least more than FES). P4 actually got a ton of notice when it came out specifically for being a budget priced amazing game. It's also preferred by the fanbase. 3 could be stronger, but I think the general feel everyone has gotten is that 4 would be a little stronger than 3.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/28/2010 2:56:56 PM | message detail
The problem with P3P is that it's on the PSP. This site just does not give two craps about the PSP.

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swordz9 | Posted 11/28/2010 2:57:50 PM | message detail
I believe P4 is stronger than P3 as well. It seems to be the fan favorite among the two. Of course there's no evidence to support it being stronger since the two will probably never be in a poll together, but P4 definitely seems to be the favorite, especially on this board. I believe P4 also sold better overseas than P3+P3FES, but I'm not certain.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 2:58:12 PM | message detail
Gaming in general has stopped caring about the PSP.

And let's just assume they're equal, because why not. Dead Rising couldn't outdo P3 here? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4107
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/28/2010 2:59:00 PM | message detail
I don't buy P4 being stronger than 3, despite being preferred by the fanbase. It was one of the absolute last PS2 games (so it sold like 10 copies), while P3 has gotten two releases and has the "older games have an advantage" thing.

But you said it yourself, P4 is preferred by the fanbase. This isn't a case like Halo/Halo3 or DMC/DMC3 where the original laid the groundwork and the sequel just expanded on it, making the first one "better" through nostalgia. This is more like Final Fantasy, where the sequels are two completely separate entities, and have power based on their own merits.
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WhiteLens | Posted 11/28/2010 3:02:25 PM | message detail
Persona 4 was actually pretty high selling and it got it's name out a lot through word of mouth.

That said whichever game that is stronger is pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things.
They're probably equal and wouldn't get far if they weren't facing games that no one cares about on this site.

And if you want to take day votes into consideration:

TWEWY vs DR
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4111

ToS vs GoW
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4139

That's a big difference in a boosting from the morning vote.
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/28/2010 3:05:16 PM | message detail
Still a significant day vote advantage for Dead Rising.

Also, ToS has a horrific morning vote while GoW has a great one, so it's a double whammy effect, so to speak.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/28/2010 3:07:07 PM | message detail
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/28/2010 12:08:17 PM | message detail
Does Luster have a good 35 of the top 50 spots? Shine on, you crazy diamond. That's incredible.


I have 33 accounts on the leaderboard. I don't think they will stay on for too long, because I picked San Andreas > Golden Sun, which could be possible. If I get that match right, my WoW > Paper Mario pick is almost certainly going to kick my accounts off the leaderboard.


Great job by the -4s and -6s. They managed to stay above 90 almost completely due to Luster Soldier's efforts.

Hahaha, that's funny.
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xp1337 | Posted 11/28/2010 3:09:21 PM | message detail
Yeah, I've always just assumed Persona 4 is the stronger of the two, and I'm one of the ones who prefers Persona 3. Persona 4 is just much more liked among the fanbase, as far as I can tell, and since neither is some kind of juggernaut, I figured that alone would be enough to get P4 > P3.

Then again, I suppose I could kind of buy that anyone who votes for one is almost certainly going to vote for the other in the majority of cases, and so you could basically treat them as equal, and only worry about P3 v P4 in a hypothetical direct match. But that's not too helpful.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/28/2010 3:09:35 PM | message detail
GO GOLDEN SUN
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/28/2010 3:12:32 PM | message detail
Don't worry LS San Andreas has this.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 3:17:24 PM | message detail
I'm not following this "Golden Sun wouldn't beat RSE" stuff, by the way.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/28/2010 3:18:55 PM | message detail
I'm not following this "Golden Sun wouldn't beat RSE" stuff, by the way.

Me neither. I absolutely think GS could win that - especially with Dark Dawn coming out.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/28/2010 3:21:44 PM | message detail
Well it's more GS is liked more and on the same system. I know PokeFEAR and etc, but RSE isn't like the others.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/28/2010 3:23:55 PM | message detail
Would there be SFF in Golden Sun Vs. FFX?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/28/2010 3:25:36 PM | message detail
Probably some.

I would have taken GS>RSE even before I saw their respective matches. I've never understood that particular mental block.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/28/2010 3:26:53 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #484
Hahaha, that's funny.


Did...did Luster just laugh?

what the f*** is going on
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/28/2010 3:27:39 PM | message detail
Well, in all fairness, RSE's reputation seems to have improved over time. There's actually quite a bit of demand for a 3DS remake, and in general, I've noticed a surprisingly large number of people waxing nostalgic about it.

But yeah, GS does seem to be better liked. A lot of people seem to think it's just a random GBA game, but really, a lot of people consider it one of the system's crown jewels.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/28/2010 3:28:50 PM | message detail
GS can still win over RSE and still lose. RSE's performance on SMG pretty much confirmed that GTA4 is weaker this year.
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tgs2 | Posted 11/28/2010 3:33:50 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #495
GS can still win over RSE and still lose. RSE's performance on SMG pretty much confirmed that GTA4 is weaker this year.


We wont even know that until it faces off against TP
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/28/2010 3:34:49 PM | message detail
I would have taken (and still do take) RSE > GS.

But to me Golden Sun just plain looked better than San Andreas. We're talking about failing to double a game that is most likely terrible, terrible fodder. I hate to use GotY polls, but there's only so much faith I'm willing to put in Dead Space when the argument for it not being terrible, terrible fodder is 'X game from Y series that consistently disappoints isn't going to disappoint this year!' when we have some amount of evidence of it being terrible fodder.

The first Golden Sun in years being released on a system that doesn't have a Golden Sun out yet on the day of the match is just the icing to make it easier.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/28/2010 3:35:23 PM | message detail
We wont even know that until it faces off against TP

I don't think a SFF match is going to tell us anything unless SMG decides to go make a match out of it.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/28/2010 3:35:45 PM | message detail
Watch Outsourced.

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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/28/2010 3:35:58 PM | message detail
Watch Outsourced.

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