GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 956
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 10:53:03 AM | message detail |
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/27/2010 11:00:36 AM | message detail |
I
have to say, Portal/FF12 is really giving me fits. On the one hand, the
FF night vote, and FF12's last-year performance on HL2, makes me want
to side with it. On the other hand, Portal has a high chance of soaking
up any anti-votes, plus it has a high chance of rallying in a close
match. --- PSN - Aevio Playing: Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes |
Forceful Dragon | Posted 11/27/2010 11:01:38 AM | message detail |
I feel decent about portal right now. --- Eff Dee ~C~ http://img.imgcake.com/dragonoweenpngqy.png |
Pondos | Posted 11/27/2010 11:02:29 AM | message detail |
MM>GSC is scaring the **** out of me right now. --- Mega is all like 'pew pew mother****ers' and X us all like 'pew pew but only if I have to' -ChidoriNoJutsu http://i28.tinypic.com/29psu9t.jpg |
Achromatic | Posted 11/27/2010 11:03:23 AM | message detail |
so, speaking of "how dare you upsets" would you take melee to get 70% on dragon age --- Sir Chris |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 11:05:03 AM | message detail |
After this, probably. I'd take Dragon Age being super weak before I take TP being super strong. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· Death is the great equalizer. |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/27/2010 11:10:21 AM | message detail |
From: Achromatic | #005 In a day match? More than 70%. Though TP has no shot at Melee, the SFF will hurt it. TP probably isn't too far off melee indirectly. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/ff13borderlands.png |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 11:13:59 AM | message detail |
Just as unsurprisingly haters be hatin. WW > Starcraft. People like this are why I'm glad Wind Waker lost. --- Forgive me, I have but two faces. One for the world, one for God. Save me. |
redrocket | Posted 11/27/2010 11:14:15 AM | message detail |
tran is on the ball. Those 5 days where all the Zelda games lost in 2004 were awesome. The whining on Board 8 is always at an apex when Zelda (or Link) loses, and I love it. Oh yeah, the "all Zelda final four" hype. That was good times. --- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 11:15:09 AM | message detail |
From: redrocket | #009 And the whining is still going on from it. I love it! "Haters gon' hate" doesn't even begin to describe how mad all the Zelda fans got that year. --- "Sig rotating is far too time consuming, unless of course you are Ulti and control time." -RPGLord95 |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/27/2010 11:15:32 AM | message detail |
From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #490 It doesn't belong here. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/ff13borderlands.png |
LOLContests | Posted 11/27/2010 11:15:54 AM | message detail |
The whining on Board 8 is always at an apex when Zelda (or Link) loses, and I love it. Have you never been in the Stats Topic when Zelda wins? It's like the exact opposite. This is such a false accusation I don't know how to even respond. I don't think anyone even cared when all those Zelda games lost except for LttP maybe. People were happy their brackets were saved in the 8-Bit and 32/64 Bit Division, and people were all aboard the Starcraft train. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
Lopen | Posted 11/27/2010 11:16:13 AM | message detail |
Man I just realized Luster has 218 accounts he's keeping up with the battle challenge for Tell me he made some script of some sort to automate this for him.... --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/27/2010 11:18:05 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3473 So, if Zelda and PW were dropped from that match, who would benefit more, FF12 or HL2? --- PSN - Aevio Playing: Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 11:18:06 AM | message detail |
From: Lopen | #013 He has a script that lets him log into a new account with one click. Beyond that, no. He made the script for that old DEATHMATCH contest. --- "Like, he thinks about Starcraft while having sex (his girlfriend said it was the best ever, so he must've been doing something right)." -G0EMON |
Lopen | Posted 11/27/2010 11:19:00 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #015 That's... not really good enough, but it helps, I suppose... --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
gearofages | Posted 11/27/2010 11:20:31 AM | message detail |
From: Pondos | #004 It should. |
RustyMrSaturn | Posted 11/27/2010 11:22:48 AM | message detail |
so bioshock or KH2, i feel like kh2 will win, but i'm not sold on it yet SELL ME --- (7:54:34 PM) THEmrsmartguy: chiefs going 3-0 would cause the universe to implode upon itself RUSTY ~ your messiah |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2010 11:24:17 AM | message detail |
Have
you never been in the Stats Topic when Zelda wins? It's like the exact
opposite. This is such a false accusation I don't know how to even
respond. Remember when a bunch of stats guys were arguing that Link fans should vote for someone else once in a while to add variety? It's a popularity contest. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 80/88 Today's Matches: SMG & LoZ: TP |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2010 11:25:05 AM | message detail |
so bioshock or KH2, i feel like kh2 will win, but i'm not sold on it yet SELL ME KH2 barely lost to RE4, Bioshock barely lost to Portal. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 80/88 Today's Matches: SMG & LoZ: TP |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2010 11:27:45 AM | message detail |
people were all aboard the Starcraft train. Forgot about this. No they weren't, it was almost as bad as L-Block winning round 2 and beyond. To the board it was okay for Starcraft to win over Halo since that was debatable, Kingdom Hearts because it flopped, but pulling off a shady comeback caused the entire board to go up in flames. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 80/88 Today's Matches: SMG & LoZ: TP |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 11/27/2010 11:29:50 AM | message detail |
From: FFI3_Lightning | #007 TP had a direct match against Brawl in the 4-way contest and looked normal, so I don't see Melee doing any SFF there. I would have taken TP against the Smash games in a second this year if it had been a night match. Unfortunately, the difference between night and day there is surprisingly huge. 52% could be overcome with a format change and extra Zelda votes, 55% is a lot harder. --- Dr Football and Snake have won this round, but Sephiroth will rise again! |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/27/2010 11:30:35 AM | message detail |
From: RustyMrSaturn | #018 This is not even debatable like Portal/FFXII or GS/SA. KH wins easily. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/ff13borderlands.png |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/27/2010 11:32:31 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3473 So, if Zelda and PW were dropped from that match, who would benefit more, FF12 or HL2? --- PSN - Aevio Playing: Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2010 11:34:18 AM | message detail |
None I would guess. If you really wanted to get technical FFXII since there are more FF fans on this site and would thus throw an apathy vote towards FFXII. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 80/88 Today's Matches: SMG & LoZ: TP |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/27/2010 11:35:03 AM | message detail |
From: Lieutenant Kettch | #022 That was no direct match and it Lost. So that tells you TP doesn't have the SFF ability of something like OoT(not to that extent but even favourably). --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/ff13borderlands.png |
Forceful Dragon | Posted 11/27/2010 11:37:28 AM | message detail |
I
also use the one-click-account-change script when I feel like using my
alphabet alts or the handful of awesome spaced accounts I have. --- Eff Dee ~C~ http://img.imgcake.com/dragonoweenpngqy.png |
LOLContests | Posted 11/27/2010 11:38:54 AM | message detail |
To
the board it was okay for Starcraft to win over Halo since that was
debatable, Kingdom Hearts because it flopped, but pulling off a shady
comeback caused the entire board to go up in flames. People accused it of cheating (because it was suspicious, not because of pro-Zelda bias; people accused it of cheating after it beat Halo too), but we're gonna have to agree to disagree that opinion was overly negative to Wind Waker losing. The board exploded because it was the biggest successful comeback we'd seen up to that point and it pulled it off suspiciously. People were excited, but not necessarily angry. Some were of course, but the majority were not upset that a Zelda game lost. Not any more so than people are usually upset when something loses a close match, especially under suspicious circumstances. People weren't angry about L-Block either until the finals when all of its horrible fans arrived. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 11/27/2010 11:48:48 AM | message detail |
From: FFI3_Lightning | #026 Direct match as in they faced each other. And you said melee would SFF TP, I have no idea what OoT has to do with anything. --- Dr Football and Snake have won this round, but Sephiroth will rise again! |
695924 | Posted 11/27/2010 11:51:05 AM | message detail |
From: Pondos | #004 Not gonna happen. --- lol opinions |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/27/2010 11:51:08 AM | message detail |
None I would guess. If you really wanted to get technical FFXII since there are more FF fans on this site and would thus throw an apathy vote towards FFXII. Hmmm... unless Valve games have had a massive boost in the last year, wouldn't that make FF12 the favorite in its round 2 match then? --- PSN - Aevio Playing: Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 11:53:04 AM | message detail |
It's
almost unfortunate Ceej confirmed Starcraft cheated that year. Granted
we would have all figured this out in 2009, but still. I'm really happy
I went with the FF8 upset there. --- "I'm no match for you, oh divine king of all the internet." -Lightning Strikes |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2010 11:54:31 AM | message detail |
It cheated against Melee only. And really we should have seen it coming, it barely defeated Halo after a massive rally. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 80/88 Today's Matches: SMG & LoZ: TP |
Azp2k32 | Posted 11/27/2010 11:55:55 AM | message detail |
"Hmmm...
unless Valve games have had a massive boost in the last year, wouldn't
that make FF12 the favorite in its round 2 match then?" http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4113 Granted, we all know how Gears has turned out to be a pretty big flop, but over doubling like that is pretty impressive. --- "I submitted brackets on all [224] of my accounts so they would get the 10 free Karma for beating SBAllen's score." - Luster Soldier |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 11:55:59 AM | message detail |
No, it cheated period. Let me look up the exact quote. --- http://gamesareevil.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/History-of-Video-Game-Development-Studios-Flow-Chart-2.jpg |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/27/2010 11:57:09 AM | message detail |
woah just saw this result brawl > melee for sure --- http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/170/ikamusume0516.gif http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/20101126-034627.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 11:59:07 AM | message detail |
From: CJayC | Posted: 8/7/2005 3:11:54 AM | Message Detail | #102 Yeah, I did see the Vercetti stuff at the end of it; odd thing though, it good portion of it (half?) came from a wide variety of IPs and ISPs, in China of all places. None of the IPs were known proxies, and given that they were from multiple ISPs, it can't have been one person doing it; it looked more like the Korean ISP floods during the Best Game Ever matches with StarCraft. *shrug* If that doesn't imply Starcraft cheated in multiple matches, then my former days of being an English major were kind of a lie. It cheated more than once. It's pretty obvious Wind Waker was the true winner of that match, and it might be safe to say Halo won the first one as well. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ You can't hide forever! |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/27/2010 12:02:13 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4113 Granted, we all know how Gears has turned out to be a pretty big flop, but over doubling like that is pretty impressive. I expect a moderate amount of shooter SFF in that match (kind of like how Halo leeched votes from Portal in round two of last year's 4-ways). The problem, as I see it, is that all the Portal data is skewed. SFF matches, 4-way matches, etc etc. It's hard to get a good read on its strength, much less how much it's increased over the last year. I know a lot of people are hyping Portal, and it's the favorite in the guru. Even I've made my arguments for Portal after FF12's horrible showing against CC. But I still can't shake this nagging feeling that Portal's strength is getting over-hyped. --- PSN - Aevio Playing: Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2010 12:03:48 PM | message detail |
If there was cheating CJayC would have removed the votes. Really all that says is that a larger than usual amount of Starcraft votes came from Korea, not a surprise considering the game. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 80/88 Today's Matches: SMG & LoZ: TP |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 12:03:55 PM | message detail |
It probably is, but it doesn't need to be all that strong to beat FF12 and Mass Effect. --- "Listening to Albion for game information is not recommended." -SHINE GET 64 |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/27/2010 12:03:59 PM | message detail |
portal and gears of war sff really? --- http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/170/ikamusume0516.gif http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/20101126-034627.jpg |
Hochimihnister | Posted 11/27/2010 12:05:02 PM | message detail |
2004 is the best contest to date Everyone was expecting an all Zelda final four. Then the contest hero, Starcraft, defeated Wind Waker and there was much rejoicing But Zelda's implosion did not stop there. SMB3 proceeded to destroy Zelda. Zelda fanboys were frantic but they still had their two strongest games left. Chrono Trigger engaged Link to the Past in a fierce duel which Zelda lost. The Zelda fanboys were beside themselves and many even killed themselves But there was still one Zelda game left - the juggernaut of the Zelda series, Ocarina of Time Final Fantasy VII engaged this behemoth and mopped the floor with it. Zelda's strongest game was defeated with absolute ease and Zelda was officially out of the contest There was much rejoicing |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 12:05:48 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #039 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=994 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=996 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1000 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1357 I could find more examples to prove how wrong that is, but I have grocery shopping to do. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ http://www.boblauer.com/guidette.gif |
Hochimihnister | Posted 11/27/2010 12:07:23 PM | message detail |
Who
cares if Starcraft cheated against Wind Waker? It was for a good cause
and for the good of the contest. The 13 colonies "cheated" in war by
using gorilla warfare instead of traditional fighting against the Red
Coats but it was for a good cause so the cheating is excused |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/27/2010 12:10:42 PM | message detail |
portal and gears of war sff really? As I said, "shooter SFF." For the same reason that Halo, CoD, HL2, L4D, Gears, TF2, and Goldeneye would SFF each other. Using a "portal gun" doesn't make it any less a shooter. --- PSN - Aevio Playing: Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/27/2010 12:11:03 PM | message detail |
Call me naive, but I find it funny everytime someone says that a match has cheating. And so what? The winning option loses with 49% instead of wins with 50%? I don't think that'll change anyone's mind about a game's strength. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 80/88 Today's Matches: SMG & LoZ: TP |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 12:12:37 PM | message detail |
From: Greyfeld | #045 By this logic, Oblivion is an FPS. Not everything in FP perspective is a "shooter". I suspect you've never played Portal. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://img.imgcake.com/Nevest356/uhwtf.gif |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/27/2010 12:13:28 PM | message detail |
xfd at thinking portal = shooter --- http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/170/ikamusume0516.gif http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/20101126-034627.jpg |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/27/2010 12:14:35 PM | message detail |
not to mention gears of war appeals to the jock/casual types while portal appeals to the hardcore gamers --- http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/170/ikamusume0516.gif http://cache-04.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/20101126-034627.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/27/2010 12:15:15 PM | message detail |
From: Hochimihnister | #044 HE HATH SPOKEN --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "We're only gonna score 17 points?" -LOL Tom Brady |
