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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:16:57 AM | message detail
Maybe some time next semester, finals are coming soon.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:17:55 AM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #199
TP is a GC game. Sure more people palyed it on wii but for me and the 1 million people who purchased the GC version it was a GC game that they PORTED to wii. Once SKyward Sword comes out people won't even consider TP a wii game anyway, they only do it now since the GC died in 2006.

And GC wasn't hated because there was no need to fans to hate the GC. Sure it looked like a handbag but it played games with graphics similar to Xbox/PS2 and it got good Nintendo support.


Dude, were you not on these forums in the first half of the last decade? When "Nintendo has betrayed us and gone kiddy, DAMN NINTENDO" was everywhere?

People will always consider it a Wii game like people will always consider Halo an XBox game, becuase most gamers don't give a **** about where a game is developed, they care where they first played it in significant numbers.

You really think the average gamer who player Skyward Sword is going to look back and think "Oh, well, that's a gamecube game now, how did I not see that before?"
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/26/2010 11:17:58 AM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #199
but for me and the 1 million people who purchased the GC version it was a GC game


...and for the five million people who bought it on the Wii, it was a Wii game >_>

it was a GC game that they PORTED to wii.


a much more popular port came out before the original, just throwing that out there.

Once SKyward Sword comes out people won't even consider TP a wii game anyway


Holy s*** you can see the future!? Quick, tell me what happens between RE4/FFX? If RE4 wins, I don't care who wins this damn contest.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/26/2010 11:19:10 AM | message detail
University of British Columbia?

Holy s***, that is awesome.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:19:26 AM | message detail
Yeah Nintendo love was pretty low until 2005, anyone remember the Nintendo boost that the contests had?
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/26/2010 11:20:32 AM | message detail
Just because a game sells better on another console (like RE4) doesn't mean its not a game for the system it was originally made for foremost.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:21:23 AM | message detail
University of British Columbia?

Yup.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 11:21:47 AM | message detail
You guys are basically ignoring the GC version like it didn't exist. It sold over half a million in it's first month, a hell of a lot of people from this site(ignore casuals since that's not the point) got the GC version because they didn't have a wii or didn't care about the wii.

My point is you can't base TP's strength on these contests purely as a Wii game.

In fact if it NEVER came out on Wii and GC only say in 2005..it would probably still be as strong as it is today.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:22:29 AM | message detail
So....

BRAWL DEBOOST OH YES

MELEE GOING TO 60-40 THIS GAME

DOWN WITH NEW NINTENDO
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/26/2010 11:22:33 AM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #208
In fact if it NEVER came out on Wii and GC only say in 2005..it would probably still be as strong as it is today.


That's not a fact at all. That's a hypothetical situation you just pulled out of your ass.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 11:25:35 AM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #210
That's not a fact at all. That's a hypothetical situation you just pulled out of your ass.


That's why i said probably. There wouldn't be any huge differences.
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xp1337 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:27:09 AM | message detail
I'll be honest, I'd never seriously heard the claim that TP was a GCN game as opposed to a Wii Game until right around now.

What's more puzzling to me though is that it seems pretty irrelevant. Either way, Brawl is so screwed, and really, isn't that what's important?

Also, 60-40 is setting our sights too low, we should start calling for Melee to double Brawl. It would be glorious.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:27:32 AM | message detail
Meanwhile, Brawl is pushing for 80% in North America and Valkyria Chronicles leads in Asia and Oceania!

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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:28:19 AM | message detail
You drop hypotheticals like they have any relevance on contest strength. If Phoenix Wright were the star of the Legend of Zelda, he could beat Snake!

Here's what matters for contest strength.

1 million copies.on GC
5 million copies on Wii

It's not that GC is irrelevant, it's that the vast majority of people played it on Wii . And as much as gamers have given up hope for the Wii now and hate on it, it was pretty popular among gamers in '06.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:30:50 AM | message detail
No one is saying that TP gets all of its strength from the Wii, it would be like arguing something like Fallout 3 is an Xbox360 game and it gets all of its strength from that console..

We could call TP a multiplatform game I guess.
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xp1337 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:34:09 AM | message detail
We could call TP a multiplatform game I guess.

I know this is an unfair comparison, but should we call OoT multiplatform because of the GCN Port? Or LttP because of the GBA Port?

Technically, it may be true, but from a practical standpoint...

Again, I know that's not the fairest comparison, but still.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/26/2010 11:34:41 AM | message detail
Brawl's performance here isn't really bad or anything, but let's face it - Morrowind would probably shatter VC. Melee deserves to be the favorite, I'd say.

Can't wait to see how FFX does against Borderlands!

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TRE Public Account | Posted 11/26/2010 11:35:09 AM | message detail
If we're debating it, the voters will also be divided. Some voters will see it as a Wii game and some as a GameCube game. I don't think it really makes a huge difference which one they see it as.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 11:37:24 AM | message detail
Yeah but i only mentioned it because people seem to think that's what TP's strength is based on. It's wrong to call it just a "wii" game. I never said it's MORE of a GC game than a wii game, maybe i should have worded that statement better. Technically it's a GC game ported to a wii. Though i do acknowledge it was far more popular on the Wii. But on this specifc site if you did a poll on "which version of TP you played first" then a Wii wouldn't be winning by a lot. A lot of people got this on GC. That's my point..not the fact that more people played on wii.

5 million and 1 million is huge in reality..but GC version still sold over a million. you can't use those sales numbers to point out TP's strength on this site.


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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/26/2010 11:38:00 AM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #217
Can't wait to see how FFX does against Borderlands!


Me too, but just because I want to see RE4 out-do that % on VC and get my "RE4 > FFX" train rolling.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 11:39:02 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #215
No one is saying that TP gets all of its strength from the Wii, it would be like arguing something like Fallout 3 is an Xbox360 game and it gets all of its strength from that console..

We could call TP a multiplatform game I guess.


people did.

When the argument "wii games suck on here"

people always say TP and Brawl are strong failing to acknowledge that TP did come out on GC and that it's not just a wii game.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:39:11 AM | message detail
The main difference was that both TP games were released about a week apart rather than years.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 11:40:27 AM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #220
Me too, but just because I want to see RE4 out-do that % on VC and get my "RE4 > FFX" train rolling.




That would be amazing. FFX losing to RE4 would make me extremely happy.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:41:03 AM | message detail
people always say TP and Brawl are strong failing to acknowledge that TP did come out on GC and that it's not just a wii game.

You also can't argue that the Gamecube gave TP most of its strength either.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/26/2010 11:41:39 AM | message detail
RE4 > FFX would be amazing and annoying, since I originally picked it before chickening out.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:42:31 AM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #219
Yeah but i only mentioned it because people seem to think that's what TP's strength is based on. It's wrong to call it just a "wii" game. I never said it's MORE of a GC game than a wii game, maybe i should have worded that statement better. Technically it's a GC game ported to a wii. Though i do acknowledge it was far more popular on the Wii. But on this specifc site if you did a poll on "which version of TP you played first" then a Wii wouldn't be winning by a lot. A lot of people got this on GC. That's my point..not the fact that more people played on wii.

5 million and 1 million is huge in reality..but GC version still sold over a million. you can't use those sales numbers to point out TP's strength on this site.


If you asked the general site, I think it'd be really heavily towards Wii.

I think the "hardcore" gamers are getting overwhelmed by their Wii hate and blaming everything on Wii hate. And people are forgeting people used to like the Wii much like people apparently forget the Gamecube was hated by the "hardcore" gamers for years.

And as such, people think "Well Wii isn't popular among hardcore gamers, so most of the hardcore gamers must have played on Gamecube", which is ignoring the fact that in 2006-2007 the Wii hadn't fully alienated the "hardcore" gamers yet and a lot of hardcore gamers got the Wii at launch.

The super hardcore Nintendo fans with a chance to get their Zelda a month early?
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/26/2010 11:42:53 AM | message detail
You also can't argue that the Gamecube gave TP most of its strength either.

Wasn't TP almost Brawl levels of hype here, or am I remembering wrong? And all that hype was about the GC version.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/26/2010 11:44:24 AM | message detail
RE4 > FFX would be amazing. It'd totally kill my bracket, yeah, but it'd still be awesome!

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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:44:32 AM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #227
You also can't argue that the Gamecube gave TP most of its strength either.

Wasn't TP almost Brawl levels of hype here, or am I remembering wrong? And all that hype was about the GC version.


And then they announced it for the Wii. And the Wii game came out slightly earlier for the super Zelda fans.

Halo:CE was hugely hyped when it was a PC game. Then they announced it for XBox and the hype shifted there.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:45:17 AM | message detail
Wasn't TP almost Brawl levels of hype here, or am I remembering wrong? And all that hype was about the GC version.

Well that's because the Wii version wasn't announced until later and the hype switched when it was announced.


Someone should do a poll, even just on this board, I'd like to see what the rest of Board 8 thinks.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/26/2010 11:46:32 AM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #223
That would be amazing. FFX losing to RE4 would make me extremely happy.


From: XIII_rocks | #225
RE4 > FFX would be amazing and annoying, since I originally picked it before chickening out.


From: TheCodeisBosco | #228
RE4 > FFX would be amazing. It'd totally kill my bracket, yeah, but it'd still be awesome!



Excellent.
More passengers for my RE4 > FFX upset train. Oh, and I have FFX > RE4 too, but f*** it, lets get this awesome result going.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 11:48:29 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #224
people always say TP and Brawl are strong failing to acknowledge that TP did come out on GC and that it's not just a wii game.

You also can't argue that the Gamecube gave TP most of its strength either.


Not most. But still a significant amount.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/26/2010 11:49:54 AM | message detail
Put me on the RE4 > FFX train CHOO CHOO!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/26/2010 11:49:57 AM | message detail
Excellent. More passengers for my RE4 > FFX upset train. Oh, and I have FFX > RE4 too, but f*** it, lets get this awesome result going.

I like that attitude.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/26/2010 11:49:57 AM | message detail
If you consider 15% of sales significant then I guess so.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/26/2010 11:50:10 AM | message detail
oh cool STP
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/26/2010 11:50:25 AM | message detail
I lost hype when it was announced for a Wii. I mean... come on... the Wii was just laughable. I wouldn't be caught dead buying one(yes I still don't have one) I think I would have killed someone if they announced it was going to be a Wii exclusive(I literally bought my Gamecube for 'the next Zelda game'.

But that's just me >_>
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/26/2010 11:51:11 AM | message detail
TP was crap on the Wii. I couldn't stand those controls. I eventually was able to find the GC version though and that felt a lot more natural.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 11:54:54 AM | message detail

From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #226
If you asked the general site, I think it'd be really heavily towards Wii.

I think the "hardcore" gamers are getting overwhelmed by their Wii hate and blaming everything on Wii hate. And people are forgeting people used to like the Wii much like people apparently forget the Gamecube was hated by the "hardcore" gamers for years.

And as such, people think "Well Wii isn't popular among hardcore gamers, so most of the hardcore gamers must have played on Gamecube", which is ignoring the fact that in 2006-2007 the Wii hadn't fully alienated the "hardcore" gamers yet and a lot of hardcore gamers got the Wii at launch.

The super hardcore Nintendo fans with a chance to get their Zelda a month early?


The level of hate GC got isn't anywhere near Wii's though.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 11:58:23 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #230
Wasn't TP almost Brawl levels of hype here, or am I remembering wrong? And all that hype was about the GC version.

Well that's because the Wii version wasn't announced until later and the hype switched when it was announced.


Someone should do a poll, even just on this board, I'd like to see what the rest of Board 8 thinks.


GC TP was probably THE most hyped game on this site Bar Brawl. It was pretty much for everyone the sequel to Ocarina of Time, especially since WW wasn't Zelda peopel expected.

And How much hype is there for SS? honestly...not as much as TP or Brawl that's for sure.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 11:59:08 AM | message detail

From: Lightning Strikes | #235
If you consider 15% of sales significant then I guess so.


but i'm talking this site. It's alot more than 15%.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/26/2010 12:02:07 PM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #240
And How much hype is there for SS? honestly...not as much as TP or Brawl that's for sure.


To be fair, we haven't exactly seen a whole lot of it.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 12:02:55 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | #237
I lost hype when it was announced for a Wii. I mean... come on... the Wii was just laughable. I wouldn't be caught dead buying one(yes I still don't have one) I think I would have killed someone if they announced it was going to be a Wii exclusive(I literally bought my Gamecube for 'the next Zelda game'.

But that's just me >_>


It was probably my most frustrating time as a Nintendo fan. I didn't hate the wii but i could NOT AFFORD a wii and didn't want to buy a wii. They delayed the GC version and then announced it would be coming out after wii version....i was pretty ******** pissed off, i know a lot of people on here were too.

I didnt' even buy a wii until Brawl.
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SuperWhiscash | Posted 11/26/2010 12:03:45 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #231
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Excellent.
More passengers for my RE4 > FFX upset train. Oh, and I have FFX > RE4 too, but f*** it, lets get this awesome result going.


I own this train. I actually took this. RE4 to the finals where it belongs. (...losing to...Brawl. and there are some Melee > RE4 gurus. sighhhhhhhhhhhh.)
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 12:04:09 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #242
To be fair, we haven't exactly seen a whole lot of it.




Aside froma crappy presentation and a horrible trailer i guess you're right. Or maybe it's just me but the game...well it just doesn't look that good.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/26/2010 12:06:45 PM | message detail

From: SuperWhiscash | #244
I own this train. I actually took this. RE4 to the finals where it belongs. (...losing to...Brawl. and there are some Melee > RE4 gurus. sighhhhhhhhhhhh.)


I'd still like to see how strong RE4 is in 1v1, though it did pretty well to reach the QF last year. The fact that it wasn't significantly stronger than KHII is alarming. though i guess we are all forgetting that while RE4 was amazing..it's still an action game and as far as action games go it's pretty damn strong. Especailly when you consider RE games in general are weak as hell.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/26/2010 12:07:07 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3946

Oh reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally

Also let's face it, barely anyone played TP on the Gamecube here. Look at what the Wii does in this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2631

Guess what game made that happen.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/26/2010 12:08:44 PM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #239
The level of hate GC got isn't anywhere near Wii's though.


Oh, NOW the Wii hate is more than GC hate ever was.

I'm just saying, people seem to have selective memories. And you seem to have a selective memory in thinking that people didn't get the Wii at first because you couldn't afford it and didn't want it.

I can't afford to get many games these days, but I'd be foolish if I thought other people didn't get Mario Galaxy 2.
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695924 | Posted 11/26/2010 12:09:33 PM | message detail
Lol FFX. It'll be lucky if it can get past FFIX.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/26/2010 12:10:40 PM | message detail
Keep in mind, with all those people who have sold their Wiis because they didn't have enough legit games, a good number played Zelda first and THEN sold it. Just because they hate the Wii now doesn't mean they think of TP as a Gamecube game.
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