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Achromatic | Posted 11/25/2010 9:49:06 AM | message detail
also while you are all saying how much COD4 is sucking it is cleaving perfect dark % wise <_<
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695924 | Posted 11/25/2010 9:50:08 AM | message detail
RBY would stomp on DPP so hard it would be like Melee vs GH2.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/25/2010 9:50:31 AM | message detail

From: 695924 | #402
RBY would stomp on DPP so hard it would be like Melee vs GH2.


.. I actually buy this <_<
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voltch | Posted 11/25/2010 9:50:57 AM | message detail
I won't be satisfied until CoD hits w/e the oracle predicted, what did they say anyway?
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/25/2010 9:51:05 AM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #399
DPP is the third strongest, Advokaiser, what are you talking about <_<


Goddamnit, Chris
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Achromatic | Posted 11/25/2010 9:51:26 AM | message detail
and people say I am the jerk geesh.
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voltch | Posted 11/25/2010 9:52:16 AM | message detail
It's like we spent 30 CS&D topics debating R/B/Y as the third strongest you know what or anything.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/25/2010 9:57:16 AM | message detail
¿?

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Achromatic | Posted 11/25/2010 10:00:04 AM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #408
¿?




R/B/Y is insanely popular, and may be the game that is a tier below ffvii/oot and thats about it <_<
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/25/2010 10:04:36 AM | message detail
At first I thought RBY was the weakest of all Pokemon generations and DPP the strongest but people seem to be hyping RBY for some wierd reason. =/

I don't know, Pokemon is weird, it's one of the only series from which I don't really know a thing about them, so... yeah, I declare myself a noob on that matter.

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red sox 777 | Posted 11/25/2010 10:05:12 AM | message detail
Nice to see Perfect Dark doing well. I figured it would based on it being worth about 37% on Goldeneye in 2004, a figure that was unlikely to have changed much since then. Goldeneye was a really strong game in 2009, so naturally PD should have been a decent midcarder.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/25/2010 10:07:44 AM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #410
At first I thought RBY was the weakest of all Pokemon generations and DPP the strongest but people seem to be hyping RBY for some wierd reason. =/

I don't know, Pokemon is weird, it's one of the only series from which I don't really know a thing about them, so... yeah, I declare myself a noob on that matter.


There's this little thing called nostalgia.

Geez, haven't you seen all the topics about "Back in the day, there were only 151 pokemon and we liked it!"
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pjbasis | Posted 11/25/2010 10:10:40 AM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #409
R/B/Y is insanely popular, and may be the game that is a tier below ffvii/oot and thats about it <_<


and Metal Gear Solid.
Advokaiser | Posted 11/25/2010 10:19:10 AM | message detail
There's this little thing called nostalgia.

Geez, haven't you seen all the topics about "Back in the day, there were only 151 pokemon and we liked it!"



Yeah... but I thought that was only applied to the TV series -_- It actually applied to me.

But that should explain why Zelda 1 is that strong actually...

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TRE Public Account | Posted 11/25/2010 11:00:37 AM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
76------20----------100.00
75------10----------100.00
74------54----------100.00
73------67----------97.01
72------112--------99.11
71------189--------97.88
70------303--------96.37
69------520--------95.38
68------567--------95.06
67------732--------94.81
66------921--------92.94
65------1033------92.26
64------1157------88.59
63------1282------85.26
62------1344------82.44
61------1406------80.44
60------1473------79.16
59------1494------73.69
58------1440------71.53
57------1510------70.79
56------1568------66.71
55------1469------67.12
54------1502------64.91
53------1335------65.02
52------1298------62.10
51------1262------61.17
50------1130------57.26
49------984--------58.23
48------888--------58.00
47------784--------55.36
46------664--------53.31
45------549--------52.64
44------414--------48.07
43------372--------54.30
42------282--------49.29
41------213--------53.52
40------163--------49.08
39------152--------51.97
38------112--------41.96
37------70----------41.43
36------66----------40.91
35------54----------37.04
34------33----------63.64
33------26----------30.77
32------33----------30.30
31------12----------50.00
30------16----------43.75
29------11----------18.18
28------6------------16.67
27------9------------44.44
26------11----------36.36
25------6------------0.00
24------6------------33.33
23------5------------0.00
22------10----------20.00
21------4------------0.00
20------8------------12.50
19------5------------0.00
18------4------------0.00
17------5------------40.00
16------4------------0.00
15------8------------37.50
14------5------------20.00
13------7------------14.29
12------11----------0.00
11------10----------0.00
10------17----------0.00
9--------5------------0.00
8--------6------------0.00
7--------3------------0.00
6--------3------------0.00
5--------5------------0.00
4--------3------------0.00
3--------5------------0.00
2--------8------------0.00
1--------23----------8.70
0--------16----------0.00

I guess it was Warcraft 3 that ate up a lot of the percentage, but I expected better from SSBM. The top tiers look great. -6 and better went perfect while -15 and better stayed above 90. The prediction percentage also faded in a fairly expected fashion.

No one fell off the Top 50.
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redrocket | Posted 11/25/2010 11:00:52 AM | message detail
At first I thought RBY was the weakest of all Pokemon generations and DPP the strongest but people seem to be hyping RBY for some wierd reason. =/

I don't know, Pokemon is weird, it's one of the only series from which I don't really know a thing about them, so... yeah, I declare myself a noob on that matter.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504

I think this is all that needs to be said.

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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 11:07:20 AM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #394
Ok let me get this straight:

The Pokemon generations go as follows: DPP > RBY > GSC > RSE, right?


I thought you were being sarcastic.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/25/2010 11:08:14 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504

Oh...

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/25/2010 11:08:53 AM | message detail
pokemon votes is all nostalgia. I doubt anyone actually thinks RBY is the best.
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695924 | Posted 11/25/2010 11:10:54 AM | message detail
I think it would kill MGS as well.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3486
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 11/25/2010 11:17:11 AM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #413
and Metal Gear Solid.


Pretty sure I ould find quite a few games that could beat Metal Gear, no matter which one it is.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 11:19:04 AM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #419
pokemon votes is all nostalgia. I doubt anyone actually thinks RBY is the best.


Gold is the best imo, but the fact that the series hasn't evolved in almost 2 friggin decades you can make an argument for every game.
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695924 | Posted 11/25/2010 11:19:07 AM | message detail
There are even a few games in this contest that would plaster MGS.
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redrocket | Posted 11/25/2010 11:19:26 AM | message detail
Pretty sure I ould find quite a few games that could beat Metal Gear, no matter which one it is.

lol

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Advokaiser | Posted 11/25/2010 11:19:35 AM | message detail
I wasn't aware of this either:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3475

-_-

So... RBY > GSC > DPP > RSE?

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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 11:20:54 AM | message detail

From: ctesjbuvf | #421
Pretty sure I ould find quite a few games that could beat Metal Gear, no matter which one it is.


MGS is a pretty strong game. I would say it's the strongest MGS game.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/25/2010 11:21:50 AM | message detail
Pokemon seems to have lost a step since BGE '09, but I'd still take Pokemon RBY over every game except OoT and FFVII. For the record, though, I think Gold/Silver is the best in the series! It'd be well worth buying for the soundtrack alone, really.

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/25/2010 11:22:45 AM | message detail
I do admit RBY was best for its time though... nobody had ever seen a game like that before and it was all fresh and new. But its kinda like saying the first Sims was the best, even though its been improved in every single way since its release, but fans stay nostalgic about the first since it was something new and fresh.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 11:23:32 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4089

I would say DPP is the weakest. That's one of the worst performances of the contest so far.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 11/25/2010 11:27:44 AM | message detail
Metroid Fusion was only a bit under RE5 in the vote in polls. If that was legit, DPP vs Metroid Fusion doesn't look so bad. They were both killed by God of War 2, however considering RE5 vs ToS and ToS vs GoW, that probably was GoW2 overperforming.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 11:27:53 AM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #428
I do admit RBY was best for its time though... nobody had ever seen a game like that before and it was all fresh and new. But its kinda like saying the first Sims was the best, even though its been improved in every single way since its release, but fans stay nostalgic about the first since it was something new and fresh.


Yes but has Pokemon RBY been improved that much? The formula is exactly the same. All that's changed is the new pokemon and pixel update. I mean the DS versions added some interface upgrades but Pokemon is the same throughout..that's why you have such a HUGE nostaglia bias Unlike Zelda/Mario where they were imrpvoed significantly either by going 3D or adding a whole new design concepts.
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/25/2010 11:28:25 AM | message detail
So... RBY > GSC > DPP > RSE?

I know the Pokemon fans will all disagree, but I don't think RSE>DPP is impossible.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 11/25/2010 11:30:08 AM | message detail
I think RSE and DPP are equals indirectly. DPP wins a head-to-head.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 11:31:42 AM | message detail

From: TRE Public Account | #430
Metroid Fusion was only a bit under RE5 in the vote in polls. If that was legit, DPP vs Metroid Fusion doesn't look so bad. They were both killed by God of War 2, however considering RE5 vs ToS and ToS vs GoW, that probably was GoW2 overperforming.


There was only 1 Nintendo game on there and that was fusion.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4049
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/25/2010 11:31:43 AM | message detail
Just saw the poll.

LMFAO CoD4.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/25/2010 11:32:11 AM | message detail
I'd take RSE over DPP in a heartbeat, but that's just me.

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Greyfeld | Posted 11/25/2010 11:34:43 AM | message detail
Yes but has Pokemon RBY been improved that much? The formula is exactly the same. All that's changed is the new pokemon and pixel update. I mean the DS versions added some interface upgrades but Pokemon is the same throughout.

While the premise behind the games has remained the same, as well as the combat system, there have been a LOT of changes in the game since RBY. There have been additions of elemental types, addition of pokemon abilities, and the Special stat was split into Special ATK/DEF (the biggest change in the series, honestly).

Sure, if you're just playing the game itself, the overall experience hasn't changed much. But for competitive battling, the changes from one generation to the next have been HUGE.
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Oxbridge | Posted 11/25/2010 11:35:15 AM | message detail
How about...

RBY > GSC > RSE > DPP > SMG
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TRE Public Account | Posted 11/25/2010 11:36:52 AM | message detail
There was only 1 Nintendo game on there and that was fusion.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4049


I don't see why that matters. It would obviously do worse if it was being LFF'd by another Nintendo game but it's not going to be particularly stronger than its base level of strength just because there isn't another Nintendo game in the poll.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/25/2010 11:37:08 AM | message detail
There was only 1 Nintendo game on there and that was fusion.

Do you mean games made by nintendo? Or games on nintendo systems? Because including Fusion, there are 3 DS games on that poll.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/25/2010 11:40:32 AM | message detail
RBY > GSC > RSE > DPP > SMG

I'm probably wrong, but as I see it now:

RBY > GSC > SMG > DPP =/= RSE

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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 11:56:44 AM | message detail
even still you can't use those polls..they aren't gong to be accurate. And DPP/RSE would be up for debate and possibly close matches. We do know that RBY is the strongest and that Gold is second.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/25/2010 12:02:30 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3475

You can "lol 4-ways" all you want, but any way you look at it, that poll has to be pretty dead-on for a DPP/SMG matchup, being placed in a poll with two other games that have no reason to SFF either of them at all.

In any case, SMG/RSE is going to be a night match, which SHOULD benefit SMG.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 11/25/2010 12:05:35 PM | message detail
even still you can't use those polls..they aren't gong to be accurate.

Which is why I said "If that was legit". The vote ins may not get things perfectly right, but they can get pretty close to the right answer sometimes.
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Mr3790 | Posted 11/25/2010 12:05:55 PM | message detail
Just saw the poll. Great pic for Perfect Dark here. It's also nice to see it holding up. I like Call of Duty 4 and all but I still think Perfect Dark is one of the best games in the bracket.

Oh, and i'd think that pokemon RBY Vs DPP would look more like Snake vs Raiden. DPP has it's supporters. it wouldn't get completely flattened like GH2.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 12:06:34 PM | message detail

From: Oxbridge | #438
How about...

RBY > GSC > RSE > DPP > SMG


I know you guys on here think SMG is weak as hell but cmon, that's ridiculous.

From: Greyfeld | #437
Yes but has Pokemon RBY been improved that much? The formula is exactly the same. All that's changed is the new pokemon and pixel update. I mean the DS versions added some interface upgrades but Pokemon is the same throughout.

While the premise behind the games has remained the same, as well as the combat system, there have been a LOT of changes in the game since RBY. There have been additions of elemental types, addition of pokemon abilities, and the Special stat was split into Special ATK/DEF (the biggest change in the series, honestly).

Sure, if you're just playing the game itself, the overall experience hasn't changed much. But for competitive battling, the changes from one generation to the next have been HUGE.


Yeah but that's nothing groundbreaking or hugely significant. Pokemon Collosuem had a neat idea, it's a shame nintendo don't want to spend a lot of money on a 3D pokemon game. It would actually be really good.






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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/25/2010 12:07:21 PM | message detail
Just saw the poll. Great pic for Perfect Dark here. It's also nice to see it holding up. I like Call of Duty 4 and all but I still think Perfect Dark is one of the best games in the bracket.

Whats great about it? To be fair I've never played Perfect Dark, but I can't tell wtf is even going on in that pic. It definately wouldn't attract the normal voter.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 11/25/2010 12:07:33 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1329

It's not as bad as SSBM vs GH2 but I think that still qualifies as getting completely flattened.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 12:09:06 PM | message detail

From: Mr3790 | #445
Just saw the poll. Great pic for Perfect Dark here. It's also nice to see it holding up. I like Call of Duty 4 and all but I still think Perfect Dark is one of the best games in the bracket.

Oh, and i'd think that pokemon RBY Vs DPP would look more like Snake vs Raiden. DPP has it's supporters. it wouldn't get completely flattened like GH2.


That's not even an argument it was mentioned by one person who didn't even follow the series.

And i'm glad someone agrees about the pic. It's awesome.

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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/25/2010 12:12:17 PM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #447
Just saw the poll. Great pic for Perfect Dark here. It's also nice to see it holding up. I like Call of Duty 4 and all but I still think Perfect Dark is one of the best games in the bracket.

Whats great about it? To be fair I've never played Perfect Dark, but I can't tell wtf is even going on in that pic. It definately wouldn't attract the normal voter.


I think it's the last boss area(which is actually the toughest fight in the game imo). It's kinda cool. Brings back a lot memories. COD4 pic is terrible.



From: TRE Public Account | #448
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1329

It's not as bad as SSBM vs GH2 but I think that still qualifies as getting completely flattened.


WTF? only 82%!??

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