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Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:13:44 PM | message detail
I'm not suggesting that 71% on Morrowind rules Melee out or anything stupid like that - just that this, unlike it's sky-high figure in round one - leaves the door open to Brawl and FFX to put in something as impressive.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/24/2010 9:14:08 PM | message detail
Not that I mind Melee beefing it, since I have Brawl anyway.

Still don't think Melee is doing that bad. You guys are more underestimating Morrowind, if anything. The other Bethesda games have decent strength here.
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vcharon | Posted 11/24/2010 9:14:48 PM | message detail
The problem is that you guys were way too hard on FFX during its first match. It was never "out of it". Melee happened to draw massive fodder in round 1 and you all overreacted and called the contest over.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/24/2010 9:15:36 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4141&region=EUR

xfd morrowind winning europe
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/24/2010 9:15:53 PM | message detail
80% was a dumb idea. This is still pretty good, though more big drops in percentage like that will make it look much more fallible. FFX had a great shot to beat SSBM last year in a fair match anyway (MGS2 says removing KH puts FFX just barely under SSBM, and who knows if Diablo 2 hurt it too). I expected a bigger blow-out, granted, but SSBM/FFX should still be rather even.

SSBB may keep it from happening though. We'll see.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/24/2010 9:16:33 PM | message detail
FFX is still losing to GSC so I don't see what the big deal is.
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Caelus | Posted 11/24/2010 9:18:03 PM | message detail
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God damn it stop reading my mind XP

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creativename | Posted 11/24/2010 9:18:36 PM | message detail
Melee is ripe for a 6-7% drop from the board vote against an Xbox RPG. If it was at 81-82% at the freeze, that would settle it around 74-75%, which would be about what I expected.

Why are you still trying to predict trends? For the love of god why?
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/24/2010 9:18:50 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #256
FFX is still losing to GSC so I don't see what the big deal is.


The big deal is that we may see GSC > Brawl rather than GSC > Melee.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:19:19 PM | message detail
Remember that Melee is going to rise a lot tomorrow morning. It will probably finish the match with around the percentage it has at 2 AM.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/24/2010 9:20:35 PM | message detail
Melee's climbing back up. It's going to be fine, people.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/24/2010 9:20:48 PM | message detail
Why are you still trying to predict trends? For the love of god why?

Because I have Melee winning it all, of course.
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vcharon | Posted 11/24/2010 9:21:03 PM | message detail
Have to love these update to update self assurances.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/24/2010 9:22:42 PM | message detail
Melee is ripe for a 6-7% drop from the board vote against an Xbox RPG. If it was at 81-82% at the freeze, that would settle it around 74-75%, which would be about what I expected.

Based on the updates I'm seeing already, it doesn't seem like Melee is going to be dropping 6-7% from the board vote. Probably would be closer to 3-4% instead. Last round, Melee dropped almost 3% from the board vote to the end of the match, but that was against GH2 and Melee started around 90% at the board vote.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:23:28 PM | message detail
Man, I'd be worried about Melee being completely terrible in Europe, but FFX couldn't dominate Viewtiful Joe overnight. Melee can easily ride the board vote and then tread water (see: Zelda/FF) until sunrise in the US.
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creativename | Posted 11/24/2010 9:24:49 PM | message detail
Based on the inherently large margin of error for 4-ways, I think anything within a couple points plus or minus what FFX did on Morrowind wouldn't tell us too much.


Because I have Melee winning it all, of course.

So then why are you saying it'll drop 6%, which is pretty crazy?
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/24/2010 9:25:14 PM | message detail
Man, I definitely wasn't expecting Melee to be going up at this point! I guess this board loves Morrowind all of a sudden. >_>

On the off chance Melee ends up below 70%, yeah, I'll be pretty disappointed. But all in all, this is shaping up to be a pretty solid victory.

FFX is still losing to GSC so I don't see what the big deal is.

I wish. :(

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/24/2010 9:26:04 PM | message detail
So then why are you saying it'll drop 6%, which is pretty crazy?

Because it always goes the opposite of what I say, so reverse psychology & stuff. I tried it with Tales last night.
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vcharon | Posted 11/24/2010 9:26:06 PM | message detail
Chill out people, Melee isn't going up that far at this point. It was one update.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:28:50 PM | message detail
Quiet you Melee is gonna show FFVII trends the rest of the way. Melee's still a lock to break 80%.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:29:15 PM | message detail
Melee is going to get reamed overnight by FFX thanks to Europe. There's very little better than FFX or worse than Melee in those late night hours, most of which are pretty obscure games like Monkey Island and Oregon Trail. Even Chrono Trigger does better in the deep night than Melee (notice Magus continued gaining on Sandbag all the way until morning), and it wasn't released in Europe.
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creativename | Posted 11/24/2010 9:29:44 PM | message detail
Like red said earlier, Melee didn't really start dropping a bit until 2am against GH2. It'll probably be fairly steady for a while.

Because it always goes the opposite of what I say, so reverse psychology & stuff. I tried it with Tales last night.

So you're pulling a George Constanza? Hmmm. I wonder what this means for the Immutable Law of "Albion is always wrong. Always."

I guess you're still wrong, you're just picking spots where you'd like to be, so the Law still holds.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:31:25 PM | message detail
Oh Melee's going to lose a lot of votes overnight, obviously. But just like in Zelda/FF, FFX can't just rip Melee's lead to shreds, it needs to put a big gap between it and Melee, otherwise the moment the sun rises FFX's gonna get buried.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:34:34 PM | message detail
Well it all depends on how high Melee starts off. Just off the top of my head, I'd think Melee needs 51-52% at the end of the power hour to end up winning.
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vcharon | Posted 11/24/2010 9:36:09 PM | message detail
Time to massively freak out!
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:37:03 PM | message detail
OH GOD MELEE'S DEAD TWILIGHT PRINCESS TO WIN THE CONTEST CONFIRMED!
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IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/24/2010 9:43:57 PM | message detail
All 9-seeds are not created equal. Melee > Deus Ex is what, 80%+? Over DMC3? Same?

This is a good performance.

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vcharon | Posted 11/24/2010 9:46:26 PM | message detail
Morrowind is probably near equal to DMC3, that one could go either way and would be an interesting match probably. Deus Ex obviously much weaker.

This is not a bad performance, people are either expecting too much out of Melee or complete disrespect Morrowind.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/24/2010 9:47:20 PM | message detail
Now that you mention it, I really wish Melee and Deus Ex had a match together. The geolocation would be hilarious!

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:48:16 PM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Team Fortress 2 – 50.03% vs. Fable – 49.97% (R1) – 0.06%
2. Morrowind – 50.45% vs. Warcraft II – 49.55% (R1) – 0.90%
3. Street Fighter IV – 50.75% vs. Sonic Adventure 2 – 49.25% (R1) – 1.50%
4. Deus Ex – 50.76% vs. Rock Band 2 – 49.24% (R1) – 1.52%
5. Pokemon RSE – 50.77% vs. Grand Theft Auto IV – 49.23% (R1) – 1.54%
6. Dead Rising – 50.91% vs. The World Ends With You – 49.09% (R1) – 1.82%
7. God of War – 51.46% vs. Tales of Symphonia – 48.54% (R2) – 2.92%
8. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 – 51.56% vs. New Super Mario Bros. Wii – 48.44% (R1) – 3.12%
9. Tales of Symphonia – 52.17% vs. Resident Evil 5 – 47.83% (R1) – 4.34%
10. Persona 3 – 52.35% vs. Civilization IV – 47.65% (R1) – 4.70%

Top 10 Smallest Night Vote Gaps
1. Dead Rising – 18334 vs. The World Ends With You – 17680 (R1) – 654
2. God of War – 20659 vs. Tales of Symphonia – 19489 (R2) – 1170
3. Valkyria Chronicles – 16384 vs. Disgaea – 14876 (R1) – 1508
4. Persona 3 – 17585 vs. Civilization IV – 16009 (R1) – 1576
5. Skies of Arcadia – 17782 vs. Baldur’s Gate II – 16155 (R1) – 1627
6. Tales of Symphonia – 20805 vs. Resident Evil 5 – 19077 (R1) – 1728
7. Halo 3 – 22476 vs. Super Mario Sunshine – 20315 (R1) – 2161
8. Mega Man 9 – 20447 vs. Demon’s Souls – 18134 (R1) – 2313
9. Mario Kart Wii – 18287 vs. Phoenix Wright – 15909 (R1) – 2378
10. Uncharted 2 – 19680 vs. Street Fighter IV – 16735 (R2) – 2945

Top 10 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Team Fortress 2 – 30893 vs. Fable – 30856 (R1) – 37
2. Morrowind – 25522 vs. Warcraft III – 25066 (R1) – 456
3. Deus Ex – 25117 vs. Rock Band 2 – 24365 (R1) – 752
4. Street Fighter IV – 27481 vs. Sonic Adventure 2 – 26673 (R1) – 808
5. Pokemon RSE – 30021 vs. Grand Theft Auto IV – 29113 (R1) – 908
6. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 – 26911 vs. New Super Mario Bros. Wii – 25287 (R1) – 1624
7. Borderlands – 27909 vs. Tales of Vesperia – 22346 (R1) – 5563
8. Final Fantasy XII – 27715 vs. Crisis Core – 22089 (R1) – 5626
9. Half-Life 2 – 26337 vs. Grand Theft Auto III – 20549 (R2) – 5788
10. Okami – 27649 vs. Mega Man 9 – 21376 (R2) – 6273

Top 10 Most Popular Night Polls
1. Star Wars: KotOR vs. Devil May Cry (R1) – 43163
2. Halo 3 vs. Super Mario Sunshine (R1) – 42791
3. Final Fantasy X vs. Viewtiful Joe (R1) – 42049
4. Metroid Prime vs. Star Ocean 3 (R1) – 41441
5. Fallout 3 vs. inFamous (R1) – 41239
6. LoZ: Majora’s Mask vs. Wii Sports (R1) – 41210
7. Uncharted 2 vs. Legend of Dragoon (R1) – 40826
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee vs. Guitar Hero II (R1) – 40692
9. God of War vs. Tales of Symphonia (R2) – 40148
10. Tales of Symphonia vs. Resident Evil 5 (R1) – 39882
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Top 10 Least Popular Day Polls
1. Persona 4 vs. Braid (R1) – 40360
2. Assassin’s Creed II vs. ICO (R1) – 44138
3. GTA: San Andreas vs. Dead Space (R1) – 44238
4. Fire Emblem: PoR vs. WWF No Mercy (R1) – 45759
5. CoD4: Modern Warfare vs. PoP: Sands of Time (R1) – 46044
6. Half-Life 2 vs. Grand Theft Auto III (R2) – 46886
7. Diablo II vs. Eternal Darkness (R1) – 47075
8. Chrono Cross vs. Dragon Quest VIII (R1) – 47451
9. Oblivion vs. Soul Calibur II (R1) – 47843
10. Half-Life 2 vs. Left 4 Dead 2 (R1) – 48020

Top 10 Most Impressive Night Losers
1. Super Mario Sunshine (R1) – 20315
2. Tales of Symphonia (R2) – 19489
3. Resident Evil 5 (R1) – 19077
4. Demon’s Souls (R1) – 18134
5. Devil May Cry (R1) – 18107
6. The World Ends With You (R1) – 17680
7. Legend of Dragoon (R1) – 17393
8. Dissidia (R1) – 17027
9. Street Fighter IV (R2) – 16735
10. Metroid Fusion (R1) – 16240

Top 10 Least Impressive Night Winners
1. Valkyria Chronicles (R1) – 16384
2. Persona 3 (R1) – 17585
3. Skies of Arcadia (R1) – 17782
4. Mario Kart Wii (R1) – 18287
5. Dead Rising (R1) – 18334
6. Uncharted 2 (R2) – 19680
7. Pokemon DPP (R1) – 19880
8. Mega Man 9 (R1) – 20447
9. God of War (R2) – 20659
10. Tales of Symphonia (R1) – 20805

Top 10 Least Impressive Day Winners
1. Deus Ex (R1) – 25117
2. Morrowind (R1) – 25522
3. Persona 4 (R1) – 25820
4. Half-Life 2 (R2) – 26337
5. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 (R1) – 26911
6. Assassin’s Creed II (R1) – 27315
7. Street Fighter IV (R1) – 27481
8. Okami (R2) – 27649
9. Final Fantasy XII (R1) – 27715
10. Borderlands (R1) – 27909

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TheOceIot | Posted 11/24/2010 9:50:07 PM | message detail
awww yeah up to 13th on the battle leaderboard
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SpeedYoshi | Posted 11/24/2010 9:52:39 PM | message detail
how did mroe people pick GoW than HL2 correctly >_>
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/24/2010 9:55:53 PM | message detail
how did mroe people pick GoW than HL2 correctly >_>

Both GTA3 and to a lesser extent LBP have decent bracket support while GoW only had to go against mild support from ToS/RE5.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/24/2010 10:02:45 PM | message detail
Melee's still holding up pretty well. Still about 1% above FFX's final mark as of the end of the power hour, and in a full 24-hour match, Melee usually ends up at or a little above its power hour mark unless it's going something with a bad power hour.
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creativename | Posted 11/24/2010 10:03:41 PM | message detail
I'm surprised Allen has the same bracket score as me (71). That's top 1.5% or so. Since when did Bacon learn how to make a proper bracket? I guess he's learned some stuff over the years.
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IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/24/2010 10:04:18 PM | message detail
Wow, the casuals are getting trashed in R2. Less than 80% figured either of the 1-seeds would advance (they were both 90%+ R1) and all the other matches are below 60%. 30% are smoking something, what was Prime losing to exactly in R2?

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/24/2010 10:04:43 PM | message detail
Well, I would imagine if you have seen every poll result and make the brackets yourself, you'd have to have some knowledge about how the contests go. Not a lot (lol ffx) but enough!
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From: red sox 777 | #261
Remember that Melee is going to rise a lot tomorrow morning. It will probably finish the match with around the percentage it has at 2 AM.


2 AM was 72.83%, so by this theory we should be somewhere between 72-74%
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/25/2010 1:20:37 AM | message detail
Of course I was playing it wrong I didn't care too much for it anyway and cats were cool but it made the game a bit easy.
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/25/2010 1:29:05 AM | message detail
And this is a good perfermance by melée. It's going to underperform at night since Europe doesn't care about nintendo as much. Brawl gets day matches to look more impressive.
Denzokuken | Posted 11/25/2010 1:47:43 AM | message detail
Yeah, Melee has only got 60% in Europe right now, that's pathetic. Brawl wouldn't be doing much better (if not worse, the Wii is non-existent here), but it has day matches to look better in, so their performances can't really be compared without serious adjustment.
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/25/2010 3:42:09 AM | message detail
The Wii is only big in UK but because of Wii Fit,Wii sports and Just Dance.So yeah...
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/25/2010 4:38:26 AM | message detail

From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #296
The Wii is only big in UK but because of Wii Fit,Wii sports and Just Dance.So yeah...


Mario Kart Wii is one of the highest selling games ever here.
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695924 | Posted 11/25/2010 4:45:19 AM | message detail
lol ffx
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voltch | Posted 11/25/2010 4:48:44 AM | message detail
JLS play mario kart wii.

That should tell you how big the series is.

JLS man, JAY FRIGGING ELLE S!
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/25/2010 4:51:04 AM | message detail
And after checking some numbers.

While Just Dance is a big seller in Europe, Mario Kart Wii absolutely dwarfs it in sales, Galaxy sold better, and Brawl sold much the same. Wii Fit is a much better choice than Just Dance but Mario Kart Wii still outsold it.

The point is, big name Nintendo games are still huge here. There's still a really high demand for Galaxy and Brawl even after 2/3 years, and there's few games that have really done that much worse than in the US sales-wise.
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