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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/22/2010 3:26:09 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #198
No one cared about Smash before Melee. Melee = Halo 1.


Not sure what the hell planet you're on, but SSB was THE multiplayer N64 game not called Goldeneye
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/22/2010 3:33:36 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #199
The best argument you can make for FFXII is that nothing Valve-related has looked that good. TF2 would have easily lost to Fable without rallying and then got stomped by Batman in a year where pretty much everything from 2009 has looked bad, Left 4 Dead got wrecked by God of War, Left 4 Dead 2 did well enough to make Half-Life 2 look bad while still being terrible, and Portal's 'impressive' win is offset by Gears of War proving that Marcus losing to Rydia wasn't a fluke.

Nobody should be surprised if FFXII beats Portal without struggling.


TF2 still won a match we considered pretty even though, and right now Batman:AA's as good a bet as any other for being the top game from 2009 in this contest. The L4D-games just don't compare to the games from the Orange Box, either. We have to give the rest of the Orange Box games their shot this round just because L4D2 and Gears 2 are weak and newcomers; we have little more than nothing reliable to say about their R1-performances other than we've seen they can score blow-outs now. That's nice, but that won't matter again for them this contest
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WiiBrawal | Posted 11/22/2010 3:33:42 PM | message detail
Melee>>>64>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Brawl in terms of quality of the game.
Melee>Brawl>>>>64 in terms of strength of game in contest.
HaRRicH | Posted 11/22/2010 3:35:05 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #201
Not sure what the hell planet you're on, but SSB was THE multiplayer N64 game not called Goldeneye


I may go with Mario Kart before SSB in that regard. We've debated this before; they'd have a good match.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/22/2010 3:42:30 PM | message detail
I'd never even heard of SSB before Melee came out on the Gamecube. *Shrugs* It's kinda like arguing about Street Fighter 2 vs. Street Fighter 4, then trying to bring Street Fighter 1 into the debate like it actually matters in this contest.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/22/2010 3:43:43 PM | message detail
Yikes, Halo 3 is winning the ASV pretty decisively here.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/22/2010 3:44:58 PM | message detail
You literally cannot help yourself, can you Harrison? :)
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/22/2010 3:47:24 PM | message detail
It's kind of strange- Melee has shown us a more impressive ASV than Brawl has in the past, but the trend is reversed for the Halo games here. Also, this match is making me feel worse about Melee being able to 60-40 Brawl- if Halo can't do it to Halo 3, I wouldn't expect Melee to be able to SFF Brawl that badly, because they should be closer than Halo and Halo 3 in strength.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/22/2010 3:48:03 PM | message detail
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/22/2010 3:51:19 PM | message detail
Halo 3 (2009g) has a strength of 23.82 against Base Link.
Halo (2009g) has a strength of 26.30 against Base Link.


Halo 3 45.29% 53,734
Halo 54.71% 64,923
TOTAL VOTES 118,657

Halo wins with 54.71% of the vote!
A 11,189 vote margin of victory.

Not too far away from what we're getting here, huh.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/22/2010 3:52:11 PM | message detail
Isn't Melee/Brawl a night match though?
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creativename | Posted 11/22/2010 3:56:01 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #198
No one cared about Smash before Melee. Melee = Halo 1.


No. Melee is the sequel. The fact that Melee is much bigger than SSB is my entire point - Melee would *have* to be Halo 2 in the comparison, yet there are no similarities there whatsoever. The analogy fails on every level.

Also saying "no one cared" an exaggeration, Smash 64 was pretty popular and owned by a large percentage of N64 owners. It just wouldn't have near the strength of Melee/Brawl here.

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #201
Not sure what the hell planet you're on, but SSB was THE multiplayer N64 game not called Goldeneye


This isn't even an argument. Goldeneye was the #1 multiplayer game for the N64 (I'm not talking in contest terms, but rather real life terms). Honorable mention Mario Kart.

From: red sox 777 | #208
Also, this match is making me feel worse about Melee being able to 60-40 Brawl- if Halo can't do it to Halo 3, I wouldn't expect Melee to be able to SFF Brawl that badly, because they should be closer than Halo and Halo 3 in strength.


I said earlier that I expect the winner to get under 55% there. I agree with you and I'd be quite surprised if the winner 60/40d the loser. I think the people expecting a blowout there will be incorrect.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/22/2010 4:08:04 PM | message detail

From: Greyfeld | #205
I'd never even heard of SSB before Melee came out on the Gamecube. *Shrugs* It's kinda like arguing about Street Fighter 2 vs. Street Fighter 4, then trying to bring Street Fighter 1 into the debate like it actually matters in this contest.


Once again, more like Street Fighter 3 vs Street Fighter 4, and SSB is SF2.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/22/2010 4:11:00 PM | message detail
60/40 is more an Ulti joke than anything else. I doubt more than a few people actually believe the winner can win that convincingly.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/22/2010 4:11:58 PM | message detail
......I don't know what to say, BT. There's just no arguing with that kind of baseless assertion.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/22/2010 4:13:45 PM | message detail
60/40 is more an Ulti joke than anything else. I doubt more than a few people actually believe the winner can win that convincingly.

Well, it's sort of a Mario/Samus situation, where the games are very close but there is potential for SFF to overwhelmingly favor one side. It's the kind of match where even if you predict Melee with 60%, you still think there's a good chance Brawl will win outright.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/22/2010 4:15:10 PM | message detail
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voltch | Posted 11/22/2010 4:15:24 PM | message detail
black turtle still posts? nooooo

and I dunno, Nintendo seems like the kind of company where SFF runs far more rampant than with say western devs.
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voltch | Posted 11/22/2010 4:15:54 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #214
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Achromatic | Posted 11/22/2010 4:16:30 PM | message detail
as a guy who never thought GTA could lose

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that is bad <_<

also kratos is looking for blood.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/22/2010 4:20:13 PM | message detail
I have little problem calling GTA the underdog now. It's GameFAQs; Isaac can beat Obama with that picture.
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695924 | Posted 11/22/2010 4:21:25 PM | message detail
Aren't both of those KH pics from KH2?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/22/2010 4:21:46 PM | message detail
skeleton pic is one of my all time favorites

you can just imagine him glancing to the left and seeing all those nintendo characters

"s*** man this isn't worth it being a skeleton sucks enough"
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/22/2010 4:22:48 PM | message detail
Yeah all my friends played the original SSB, that's why we were so psyched about it when it was coming out for Gamecube.

Still, wasn't nearly as big as Melee.

Of course, few things were as big as Melee.

Kinda like FFVI was really popular but can't compare to FFVII
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creativename | Posted 11/22/2010 4:28:42 PM | message detail
I'm digging the Morrowind pic. Too bad it's going to get...um...smashed. (didn't intend a pun there but it was the first word that came to mind!)

Really like the ToV/Brawl pic. Great looking pic there. Bioshock vs. KH2 looks great as well.

Mega Man has a bit of an "uh oh...I'm ****ed" expression on his face. And of course Okami pics are always awesome looking, it seems like it's not possible to have bad pics for that game/character.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/22/2010 4:29:10 PM | message detail
I have to say that I'm amazed Halo 1 is doing this well as the bottom option against Halo 3.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/22/2010 4:30:17 PM | message detail

From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #224
Yeah all my friends played the original SSB, that's why we were so psyched about it when it was coming out for Gamecube.

Still, wasn't nearly as big as Melee.

Of course, few things were as big as Melee.

Kinda like FFVI was really popular but can't compare to FFVII


I don't know where all this Melee love is coming from. I didn't even know anyone that owned a cube, and only played Melee when I got a Wii, and to me, Melee doesn't compare to either SSB or especially Brawl. The characters felt floaty and weak, Kirby was nerfed to hell, and half of the characters were pallette swaps.

Melee was ass.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/22/2010 4:30:56 PM | message detail

From: Justin_Crossing | #226
I have to say that I'm amazed Halo 1 is doing this well as the bottom option against Halo 3.


Wait, people were actually taking that top option tripe seriously?

What the **** is wrong with you people.....
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/22/2010 4:31:58 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #228
Wait, people were actually taking that top option tripe seriously?

What the **** is wrong with you people.....


I didn't think it was a massive difference, but with the same series I figured it would be a bigger factor.
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transients | Posted 11/22/2010 4:34:21 PM | message detail
TOP OPTION FACTOR IS A JOKE, MAN. A JOKE.

BT's arguments are just bad, no need to respond to them. I really like that God of War / Tales of Symphonia pic. is everyone in here still thinking GOW has that locked up? I sure don't after seeing some of the other results.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/22/2010 4:34:57 PM | message detail
It's not a factor at all. The only possible case I could ever see it would be something like Shin Megame Persona vs Demons Soul, where noone has any idea what either game is. Even then I doubt it.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/22/2010 4:36:03 PM | message detail

From: transients | #230
TOP OPTION FACTOR IS A JOKE, MAN. A JOKE.

BT's arguments are just bad, no need to respond to them. I really like that God of War / Tales of Symphonia pic. is everyone in here still thinking GOW has that locked up? I sure don't after seeing some of the other results.


If my arguments are bad, you should have no trouble countering them.

And lets just say after the GoW2 flop, I'll be banking on that match, and I historically underrate the Fails series by how crappy it is.
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voltch | Posted 11/22/2010 4:37:25 PM | message detail
goooo Tos!
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Achromatic | Posted 11/22/2010 4:38:28 PM | message detail
ToS is going to be 60-40'd <_<
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/22/2010 5:20:18 PM | message detail
The fact that you call Melee floaty and Brawl not is astounding. Did you only use Mewtwo and Samus in Melee, and only the least floaty characters in Brawl or something?

Though about only Gamecube owners playing Melee- that may explain why it does in the ASV/worse in the late night than Brawl. The GC was much stronger in North America than elsewhere, so Melee should be more skewed toward North America.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/22/2010 5:30:08 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #235
The fact that you call Melee floaty and Brawl not is astounding. Did you only use Mewtwo and Samus in Melee, and only the least floaty characters in Brawl or something?

Though about only Gamecube owners playing Melee- that may explain why it does in the ASV/worse in the late night than Brawl. The GC was much stronger in North America than elsewhere, so Melee should be more skewed toward North America.


Which is just another nail as far as I'm concerned. Night match favours Brawl.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/22/2010 5:31:54 PM | message detail
HaRRicH | Posted 11/22/2010 4:18:59 PM | message detail
Also, does Luster now have twenty-eight brackets on the battle-leaderboard?


I have 27 accounts on the battle leaderboard. Silverwarp is not one of my accounts, although he has the same number of potential points and at risk points that my accounts also have.



transients | Posted 11/22/2010 4:19:44 PM | message detail
I expect they'll all be going away today.

voltch | Posted 11/22/2010 4:20:29 PM | message detail
he had halo 3?

ctesjbuvf | Posted 11/22/2010 4:21:45 PM | message detail
Luster has Halo 1.


They won't be going away today. And yes, I have Halo 1. For the next division, I picked MP > DMC3, Okami > MM9, God of War > ToS, and HL2 > GTA III. Picking GoW could potentially bust up my battle brackets, but I'm not too worried on that match. I don't even plan to bank until Dead Rising/Persona 4.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/22/2010 5:38:42 PM | message detail
Anybody who says that SSBM is ass is kidding themselves to bustedtown.

Seriously, WTF kind of an opinion is that? I think SSBM is hugely overrated on this board and GameFAQs but oh it's DEFINITELY a very good game, there's zero doubt about that. I like Brawl more but just feel that Melee can hold its own...actually now I'm deciding who to vote for in Melee vs. Brawl! Eep!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/22/2010 5:46:11 PM | message detail

From: transients | #230
is everyone in here still thinking GOW has that locked up? I sure don't after seeing some of the other results.


Not a lock (was it ever a lock, though?), but still a clear favorite. I know some people were disappointed in GoW2, but I think it did an alright job. That's just what a console Zelda would do to most things in this bracket. Either way, the original GoW still looked good, and I have trouble believing that it's only like 2% stronger than Resident Evil 5.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/22/2010 5:48:23 PM | message detail
GoW is probably favored by like 3 to 1 but no one would blink if it lost.

It's one of those matches.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/22/2010 5:53:47 PM | message detail
Either way, the original GoW still looked good, and I have trouble believing that it's only like 2% stronger than Resident Evil 5.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4049

If GoW2 can do that to RE5, GoW should be able to beat ToS if you think GoW is stronger than GoW2.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/22/2010 6:52:08 PM | message detail
Looking for an impressive performance from Metroid Prime tonight- the trend is of pre-Wii Nintendo games doing well so far.
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transients | Posted 11/22/2010 6:55:40 PM | message detail
that vote-in poll seems about as legit as the 2009 GOTY and we've seen how that one went.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/22/2010 7:06:40 PM | message detail
I didn't even know anyone that owned a cube

Why are you using a group of people that don't own a Gamecube to judge how strong a Gamecube game is on a Nintendo heavy site?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/22/2010 7:21:06 PM | message detail
I didn't even know anyone that owned a cube

Yeah, I didn't know anyone who owned a PS1. Still doesn't change the fact (let that word sink in for a second) that FFVII is the most popular FF game.

And we already had this argument before. Goldeneye > MarioKart 64 > SSB64 in terms of real life, but SSB would most likely beat MK64 on this site because of how skewed this site is towards the SSB series.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/22/2010 7:21:44 PM | message detail
Looking for an impressive performance from Metroid Prime tonight- the trend is of pre-Wii Nintendo games doing well so far.

I doubt that one, especially in a night match which Metroid Prime sucks with the night vote and DMC3 is very good with it. I don't trust Metroid Prime to overperform when the trends will hold it back from looking impressive. DMC3 is very good in Asia and Europe. Metroid is bottom of the barrel in Asia's Nintendo hierarchy, while it's just bad in Europe.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4077&region=EUR
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4078&region=EUR

Metroid Prime does about 3% worse in Europe, although Star Ocean probably isn't the sort of game that would be popular in Europe in the first place. DMC3 performs almost 6.5% better in Europe.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/22/2010 7:25:24 PM | message detail
Match LXIX: (1) Metroid Prime vs. (9) Devil May Cry 3

Last Round

Metroid Prime – 73.34%
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time – 26.66%

Mother 3 – 35.14%
Devil May Cry 3 – 64.86%

Analysis

Personally I was slightly disappointed in Metroid Prime’s performance, but that doesn’t even compare to the egg that Devil May Cry 3 laid last round. I admit that it was a bit wrong to think Mother 3 was totally unknown to the GameFAQs population due to it not being released in North America, but I still stand by that the game is one of the weakest in the bracket. It comes to no surprise to me that the Devil May Cry series is weak on GameFAQs, but I didn’t think the game would have been that weak.

To put that match a bit into perspective if Mother 3 was equal to Earthbound Devil May Cry the game would roughly be as strong as Yoshi’s Island and I would already take Metroid Prime over that game. I know pre-contest there were a few people arguing for an upset, mostly due to the lack of faith in Metroid Prime, but for that to happen Devil May Cry 3 would have to be significantly stronger than the original and that Mother 3 has some hidden strength for some bizarre reason.

Doing some quick comparisons Metroid Prime does have a chance at doubling Devil May Cry 3, but I feel that the game will come up short. Metroid Prime didn’t exactly inspire us that it had that kind of strength last round. A doubling would be pretty good for the game’s bid at winning this division or at the very least it would showcase just how weak the Devil May Cry series is on this site.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Metroid Prime > Devil May Cry 3

charmander6000’s Prediction: Metroid Prime wins, 64.19% - 35.81%

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/22/2010 8:03:58 PM | message detail
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/22/2010 9:00:21 PM | message detail
Metroid Prime 82.35%

14
Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening 17.65%

3
TOTAL VOTES 17

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