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HaRRicH | Posted 11/21/2010 10:44:09 AM | message detail
It wasn't much of an argument at all, don't worry.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 10:48:39 AM | message detail
Brawl/Melee is THE Final, we all know that. I think they should have been kept apart but of course you need a FF game in the final otherwise you wouldn't be able to gain pleasure from FFX fanboys crying about being beaten by a party fighter.



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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/21/2010 10:49:45 AM | message detail

From: Lord_Yggdrassil | #252
Brawl/Melee is THE Final, we all know that. I think they should have been kept apart but of course you need a FF game in the final otherwise you wouldn't be able to gain pleasure from FFX fanboys crying about being beaten by a party fighter.


ffx isn't beating MM/GSC
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 10:52:04 AM | message detail
tbh i dont' even have FFX beating RE4. It's a major upset pick but i just feel RE4 can shine in a 1v1where it doesn't have TP leeching the **** out of it. of course FFX would win but you never know.
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creativename | Posted 11/21/2010 10:56:00 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #126
Again it's an early psychology lesson that when given a random choice people tend to take the first option.


And where exactly are you getting this "psychology lesson" from exactly...? I recall reading some random internet factoid many years ago about online polls being skewed towards the bottom option because of it being nearer the 'submit' button. Not that I buy that whatsoever, but the supposed logic is just as sound. Again, the dat top option thing is a mildly funny meme, not meant by anyone using it to be taken with any actual seriousness.

From: HaRRicH | #127
The options on the front page were different from the options on the results -- it was an example of trickery.


And there goes that 'evidence' anyway. I actually remember that poll now that you describe this.

From: charmander6000 | #128
Sometimes I feel that the Batman supporters on this oard want the game to perform well just so they can have a reason to request SBAllen to have a fictional character battle.


I don't quite get why you feel this way, since AA would probably get 80/20'd by Batman the character indirectly. AA is not even a midcarder, Batman would embarrass midcarders like Dante or whoever (even Wolverine would school Dante, and Wolverine is no Batman), easily be Noble Nine level, and a very likely Mario+ level threat. I don't see Mario/Snake beating Batman, although I wouldn't count them out completely.

From: Lord_Yggdrassil | #130
It's a shame fallout 3 has Melee in the QF. i wanted to see it against a MGS game or Zelda TP. Would be a good upset pick since MGS4/3 look weak as ass.


It wouldn't beat Twilight Princess. Don't think it would beat MGS1 either.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 11:08:24 AM | message detail
If a Batman game can look good that means people may actually like the character for the game. I see it being more likely for fictional characters being allowed should their games perform well. No point in letting Batman or Vader in if people don't care about the games and vote for them because they like their comics or movies.
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junk_funk | Posted 11/21/2010 11:11:47 AM | message detail
Batman would stomp the hell out of the rest of the characters in the character bracket.

He'd 60% Link.

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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 11:13:58 AM | message detail
If you did a character battle that wasn't originally from a VG batman would be up there top 5 easily. they would beat most of the fodder game characters though will still be weak. Others include Vader, Goku and Jesus.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 11:15:26 AM | message detail

From: junk_funk | #257
Batman would stomp the hell out of the rest of the characters in the character bracket.

He'd 60% Link.




I reckon we should have a mini bracket with non-original characters and the winner gets to be in the offical character contest. That way it would reduce joke entires...like Jesus or random Bleach/Naruto characters.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/21/2010 11:15:27 AM | message detail
Eh, I'm happy enough with the path FO3 was given... HL2/MP will be a good match, and having a good shot at making the Final Four is about all I could ask for. And seeing how it performs against Melee/Brawl will be a good barometer of its strength since we'll know exactly where those games stand once this contest is over
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creativename | Posted 11/21/2010 11:16:45 AM | message detail

From: 695924 | #197
Yea but not even beating Tifa, which is like 3rd tier FFVII character isn't very impressive when you are the protagonist of a supposedly very popular game on GameFAQs.


Who's alt is this guy? Also his sig shows pretty clearly he's simply trolling and doesn't believe anything he says.

From: Kamekguy | #222
Jeez 3rd-tier characters are pathetic.

I mean it's not like Bowser would have any credible strength, 3rd-tier Mario character he is.

Pathetic.


Wait. If Bowser is 3rd-tier Mario, who's 2nd tier Mario?

From: PartOfYourWorld | #239
Hmm... I expected Batman to do a few percentage points worse. That would have given me more confidence in SFIV. Might have to back ol' Drake now.


Not sure about this logic...I'm picking UC2 in the Oracle but with little confidence. I never had any confidence in UC2 even pre-contest, I only picked it to go to the division finals because I thought the bottom half of the division blew chunks, and I must admit I was probably influenced by groupthink (though I was like "I can't believe I taking this game to the division finals, what am I thinking" the whole time). Now I think I'd take even Sunshine to easily break 53+% on UC2.

From: charmander6000 | #256
If a Batman game can look good that means people may actually like the character for the game. I see it being more likely for fictional characters being allowed should their games perform well. No point in letting Batman or Vader in if people don't care about the games and vote for them because they like their comics or movies.


I don't think people really care too much about AA though, it's competition is just weaksauce. AA doesn't represent Batman very well at all. I mean, it's pretty respectable for a licensed game, but it's still a licensed game.


From: junk_funk | #257
Batman would stomp the hell out of the rest of the characters in the character bracket.

He'd 60% Link.


Haha, well I myself would take Batman in my bracket to win the whole thing (although I think him vs. Link is very very debatable and I wouldn't be surprised if Link 55/45d him easily), but yeah - Batman ain't breaking 60%.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 11:19:12 AM | message detail
ok it won't beat TP...but i would have liked to have seen FO3 compete with another strong non-western developed game. So far FO3 is the strongest Western game in this contest but it's also gonna go up against a lot of western made games. Replace Fallout for MGS3 and it would have been a good bracket to prove itself.
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creativename | Posted 11/21/2010 11:21:23 AM | message detail

From: Lord_Yggdrassil | #258
If you did a character battle that wasn't originally from a VG batman would be up there top 5 easily. they would beat most of the fodder game characters though will still be weak. Others include Vader, Goku and Jesus.


Not much question that either Batman or Vader would be the strongest non-original "starred in a video game" character. Probably Batman. No one else is really in contention for the #1 spot there.

I wonder just how huge the difference between suit Vader and Phantom Menace Anakin would be. Would that put Solid **** and ZSS to shame?

Goku probably wouldn't be all that strong. High midcarder. Not an elite. I don't understand why people constantly overrate him so much when discussing these things. I guess he'd probably be a Halo/Gears of War/World of Warcraft type when it came to brackets.

Jesus might have a decent board vote due to joke votes. But of course he'd be Madden NFL/No Mercy-level turbofodder.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/21/2010 11:24:41 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=848

I think that poll did have XBox listed as all of its options.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=489

That was the April Fools poll with changed options.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 11:26:24 AM | message detail
I think Goku would be strong. Anime is pretty huge on this site and has a lot of fans...Goku is probably the strongest from that area. And yeah i was joking about Jesus.

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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/21/2010 11:28:03 AM | message detail
Goku and Vegeta would be animes version of Cloud and Seph
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/21/2010 11:31:10 AM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #264
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=489

That was the April Fools poll with changed options.


I don't recall that poll...huh. Still not sold on the Xbox-poll not having different options though.
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redrocket | Posted 11/21/2010 11:38:10 AM | message detail

I don't recall that poll...huh. Still not sold on the Xbox-poll not having different options though.


http://www.gamefaqsarchive.com/index.php?pg=92

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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/21/2010 11:44:32 AM | message detail
That GameFAX day was great
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/21/2010 11:57:45 AM | message detail
charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 10:19:30 AM | message detail
Well of course not since a random choice isn't really being made, a lot of people that don't know either option don't vote which is why we see lower vote totals in those matches while others vote for other reasons such as name or picture.

However those polls don't really count since people aren't given a random choice. Take a look at the Best Console Ever poll on April Fools with all the options being Xbox, the top one wins.

creativename | Posted 11/21/2010 10:45:06 AM | message detail
I couldn't find it but really, one poll like that means nothing. For all we know it could be some interaction with item length and longer named items would tend to weigh things towards the bottom option if all options were the same, or something. Trying to draw *anything* from a poll like this is overreaching to incredible degrees. The top option thing is a meme, it's a complete joke and there is nothing to it whatsoever. Beyond nothing.

charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 10:49:37 AM | message detail
Again it's an early psychology lesson that when given a random choice people tend to take the first option.

Of course like I've said it doesn't apply to this contest since people aren't put in a random choice position and for the fact that a lot of people just don't vote.


Besides that Xbox poll, there is also this poll too:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3680

The top option barely beats the bottom option, but I don't think using that poll is fair because one option takes up almost 95% of the votes.
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transience | Posted 11/21/2010 12:09:20 PM | message detail

I don't think people really care too much about AA though, it's competition is just weaksauce. AA doesn't represent Batman very well at all. I mean, it's pretty respectable for a licensed game, but it's still a licensed game.


this is totally incorrect. Batman isn't "good for a licensed game", it's one of the best games of the year. it won GOTY awards on some sites and was nominated nearly everywhere.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2010 12:10:58 PM | message detail
I think Jesus would probably win the contest. Probably a third of the site will automatically vote him over anyone.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2010 12:14:04 PM | message detail
Top option factor is beyond silly. The posters in this topic probably have a greater direct influence on the results than top option factor does.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/21/2010 12:20:10 PM | message detail
Thanks for the evidence otherwise, redrocket. My bad!
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 12:20:39 PM | message detail
top option factor only exists when it's a poll about something people don't give a ***** about and the most blantent popular option is displayed at the top

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4007

Like this. So basically it doesnt' exist even if it did it would be insignificant as hell.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/21/2010 12:21:37 PM | message detail
arkham asylum is up there with KOTOR and Goldeneye in terms of licensed games.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 12:29:35 PM | message detail
I think Jesus would probably win the contest. Probably a third of the site will automatically vote him over anyone.

Jesus would be a flop. The Christians wouldn't vote for him since he isn't fictional while the other religions don't care about him or would even anti-vote him.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2010 12:30:13 PM | message detail
Well, if the contest is labeled Best Fictional Character, yes. But if it's just Best Character, no.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 12:33:55 PM | message detail
I don't think so a lot of people think fictional character and character mean the same thing. It's very rare that some refers a real person as a character. Plus it's pretty obvious that the site means fictional character if Jesus is up against a videogame character.
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creativename | Posted 11/21/2010 12:40:14 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #270
Besides that Xbox poll, there is also this poll too:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3680


That poll has been done multiple times and the bottom option average is trivially higher. I already posted them a few pages back.

From: transience | #271
this is totally incorrect. Batman isn't "good for a licensed game", it's one of the best games of the year. it won GOTY awards on some sites and was nominated nearly everywhere.


I didn't mean in terms of game quality, I meant in terms of contest strength. It isn't a particularly strong game at all, and I'd be very surprised if the Smash games didn't triple it with ease. Most licensed games are joke strength level though so it's pretty strong compared to them.

From: red sox 777 | #278
Well, if the contest is labeled Best Fictional Character, yes. But if it's just Best Character, no.


Not sure if you're being serious here. Jesus would be turbofodder no matter what it was labeled. He'd get 80+%'d by Link even if it was labeled "Best Religious Leader"!
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Pondos | Posted 11/21/2010 12:42:58 PM | message detail
There is absolutely no way the Smash games would triple Arkham Asylum
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/21/2010 12:43:37 PM | message detail
Jesus would get ridiculous anti-votes and ridiculous support. I don't know whether that would make him a beast or not. All his results would be pretty similar though.
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/21/2010 12:45:17 PM | message detail
Not sure if you're being serious here. Jesus would be turbofodder no matter what it was labeled. He'd get 80+%'d by Link even if it was labeled "Best Religious Leader"!

The Link fanboys probably do consider him their Lord and Savior. >_>

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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2010 12:47:05 PM | message detail
I think the percentage of Christians on the site is substantial. My most recent Board 8 poll had it around 30%, whereas the poll someone held a couple years back had Christian at 42%. Yoblazer's polls show a majority of Board 8 believes in some sort of God. I'd imagine the percentage of Christians for Gamefaqs as a whole is higher than for Board 8, so yes, I think Jesus would be very strong in a contest, unless it were implied that it was for fictional characters only.
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Link Fanboy | Posted 11/21/2010 12:50:48 PM | message detail
The Link fanboys probably do consider him their Lord and Savior. >_>

Because he is. <_<
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/21/2010 12:52:47 PM | message detail
Now there's an awesome account to make that post. XD
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2010 12:58:03 PM | message detail
3000 karma too, so it's not an alt......or if it is, it's the alt of a very dedicated user.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/21/2010 1:02:31 PM | message detail
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Nope. I'm happy with this account.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 1:10:16 PM | message detail
I really doubt Christians would vote for Jesus on a GameFAQs contest, they'd probably be disgusted that he's in the contest in the first place.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/21/2010 1:56:55 PM | message detail
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/21/2010 1:58:08 PM | message detail
Jesus: Judas' Asylum
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/21/2010 3:04:16 PM | message detail
Bit late to this party

But in every match before this one, the top option has been the higher seed. Did you not think that could be an influence? Hell, higher seeds will tend to be more popular anyway right?
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 3:22:21 PM | message detail
In predicting they do, but I don't think it does in voting.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/21/2010 3:44:36 PM | message detail
Of course theres a top option factor. Top option has a higher seed (for the first round at least), and people who don't know about either game will generally select higher seed for their bracket, and then bracket vote. It makes total sense, I don't see how people can deny it. The only question is how big of a % is it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2010 4:07:58 PM | message detail
Oh, well, that's somewhat different. There should be a bracket-voting factor, and the seeds should influence the brackets, but among people who didn't make brackets there should be no meaningful top option factor.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/21/2010 6:53:52 PM | message detail
TF2 got its first cut of the match at 9:32 PM, incase no one noticed.
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LordOfDabu | Posted 11/21/2010 7:05:01 PM | message detail
People used "the top option" as the reason Alvin Greene beat Vic Rawl, too!
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 7:42:53 PM | message detail
Match LXVII: (3) Uncharted 2 vs. (11) Street Fighter IV

Last Round

Uncharted 2 – 57.40%
The Legend of Dragoon – 42.60%

Sonic Adventure 2 – 49.25%
Street Fighter IV – 50.75%

Analysis

As the match came closer more and more people were starting to hype it, but I don’t see much reason for an upset to happen. A lot of the same reasons of why Uncharted 2 is weak can be applied to Street Fighter IV from 2009 games not looking that great to GameFAQs not exactly liking the genre that the game is in.

People should stop using the GotY poll as proof for Uncharted 2’s victory, especially when we’ve seen Modern Warfare 2 go from 80% to 57% on Dissidia between polls. Uncharted 2 does have more reason to drop since then because the game was still very fresh in the minds of voters. Also Street Fighter IV was released earlier in the year plus Super Street Fighter IV has been released since which can give the game a slight boost.

People should also stop comparing Street Fighter IV to the one that barely defeated Persona 4. I doubt most people would take Persona 4 in a rematch, especially with Super Street Fighter IV being released. With that said barely defeating Sonic Adventure 2 should not inspire anyone that the game has strength. Even if it is thought to be the strongest Dreamcast game given what the other games have done Sonic Adventure 2 can still be quite weak.

Uncharted 2 didn’t exactly impress last round, but given that we saw The Legend of Dragoon in the vote-in a lot of us were expecting this kind of performance. Losing to Street Fighter IV would be pretty embarrassing to Uncharted 2 and while I don’t think the upset will happen I won’t be surprised if the game ended up choking.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Uncharted 2 > Sonic Adventure 2

charmander6000’s Prediction: Uncharted 2 wins, 57.36% - 42.64%

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EvilNcr | Posted 11/21/2010 7:51:38 PM | message detail
Okay. Clue me in. Why would Super Street Fighter IV make any difference whatsoever?
It's basically the same game anyway, right?
Personally, I see it this way : Would you expect SFIV to get 57%+ or more on LoD? I don't. I'd wager it would go at 52-53% if not outright losing the match. So obviously, I'm going with Uncharted 2.
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