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LOLContests | Posted 11/21/2010 9:24:05 AM | message detail

Granted he's a blind Nintendo fan and can't imagine anything outside that company having strength, but whatever! =p


I think you're underestimating how popular Gordon was back then. He looked way better in those two years than he did in the first round of 2007. I wouldn't take him to do much better on Leon than what he did in the past. Nothing indicates this, especially not those x-stats that were posted which are based off of a Tifa inflated by anti-votes.

Western games are more popular now because the gaming industry itself publishes more big name Western games for consoles. There's no indication that GameFAQS is not just as much a fan of the Eastern games that do get made.
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695924 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:24:46 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #198
Both of those he beat were in decline.

Duke has done well recently and Scorpion hasn't dropped that much. Doesn't change the fact that the two would've cream Freeman in the GFNW days.


You honestly want to tell me Duke and Mortal Kombat aren't old has-been franchises? Both of them are getting boosts next contest since DNF and MK reboot are coming out so that's "recent", but that doesn't count as "recent" for last contest.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2010 9:25:18 AM | message detail
You're literally arguing GFNW is the same strength as the Gordon of today. Forgive me for not giving a serious response to someone who has no clue what they're talking about.
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IkaMusume | Posted 11/21/2010 9:26:11 AM | message detail

From: 695924 | #197
Yea but not even beating Tifa, which is like 3rd tier FFVII character isn't very impressive when you are the protagonist of a supposedly very popular game on GameFAQs.


yeah this is just trolling
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/21/2010 9:26:16 AM | message detail
Yea but not even beating Tifa, which is like 3rd tier FFVII character isn't very impressive when you are the protagonist of a supposedly very popular game on GameFAQs.

Tifa is one of the Top 15 strongest characters on this site. I don't see how it is even remotely reasonable to expect Gordon to be able to beat Tifa. He's a lot stronger than before but nobody here is expecting him to be that strong. In any case, it's still tons stronger than the Gordon Freeman that lost to Tina.
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DpObliVion | Posted 11/21/2010 9:26:22 AM | message detail
Whew, go AA. I was so nervous about this match, especially since I'm planning on banking next match.

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Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:26:38 AM | message detail
40% on Tifa is not crap.
40% on Twilight Princess is not crap.

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LOLContests | Posted 11/21/2010 9:26:43 AM | message detail
His change in strength is the same as the difference between Tina and Tifa. Gordon Freeman now is very, very different from Gordon Freeman 2k2.

Well, obviously. That doesn't have anything to do with 2005 though. The difference between Leon and Tina is pretty huge as well.
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Kamekguy | Posted 11/21/2010 9:27:17 AM | message detail
Duke existed in a dimension of being awesome where every year that passed, he ended up getting stronger because his joke just got funnier.

Beating Duke is, like, a rite of passage for you to stop sucking.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:27:24 AM | message detail
Tifa is a very strong character- she did get 44% on Sephiroth after all.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:28:01 AM | message detail
I'm with Ulti here, there's no debate of whether or not Freeman got a boost from Half-Life 2 and The Orange Box.

This isn't a maybe, this is hard evidence that Freeman would destroy his GFNW self.
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695924 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:28:03 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #203
You're literally arguing GFNW is the same strength as the Gordon of today. Forgive me for not giving a serious response to someone who has no clue what they're talking about.


That's not what I'm arguing. I'm saying his games aren't suddenly top tier contest strength just because he gets a little boost. You can bet most of the Valve games would struggle against the majority of the 2009 games.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 9:28:31 AM | message detail
~he makes a lot of ridiculous predictions so you can't really take him seriously.

And this match is safe. Batman had poor board vote but you couldn't really see TF2 doing anything with AA having 2 iconic comic book character in the pic.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/21/2010 9:28:41 AM | message detail
Well, obviously. That doesn't have anything to do with 2005 though. The difference between Leon and Tina is pretty huge as well.

That was a response to 695924 not your comment about how much Gordon changed since 2005.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:30:42 AM | message detail
Half-Life 2 doesn't need to be super strong to reach the semi-finals, the strongest game standing between it and a date with Melee/Brawl is Fallout 3.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/21/2010 9:31:04 AM | message detail
That's not what I'm arguing. I'm saying his games aren't suddenly top tier contest strength just because he gets a little boost. You can bet most of the Valve games would struggle against the majority of the 2009 games.

I don't think very many (if any) people here expect Half-Life 2 to be a top tier game. However, it doesn't run into any top tier games until very late in the contest so it can still go far on its own strength.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:31:13 AM | message detail
Half-Life 2 doesn't have to be a very strong game to beat Metroid Prime, because Metroid Prime is not a very strong game. It's not a top 20 game, and it might not even be top 30.
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695924 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:31:40 AM | message detail

From: IkaMusume | #204
yeah this is just trolling


How is that trolling? Cloud/Seph>Vincent>Tifa is what I had in mind. Unless Vincent and Tifa can be counted in the same tier, then it's a second tier FFVII character.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 9:32:49 AM | message detail

From: 695924 | #212
That's not what I'm arguing. I'm saying his games aren't suddenly top tier contest strength just because he gets a little boost. You can bet most of the Valve games would struggle against the majority of the 2009 games.


If you take away portal and HL2 sure. Stop posting.

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IkaMusume | Posted 11/21/2010 9:33:18 AM | message detail
How is that trolling? Cloud/Seph>Vincent>Tifa is what I had in mind. Unless Vincent and Tifa can be counted in the same tier, then it's a second tier FFVII character.

you're dissing Gordon cuz he can't beat an elite character. I mean, seriously? Theres a big difference from getting 40% on an xbox fighting game character and getting almost 40% on TIFA.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:33:30 AM | message detail
How is that trolling? Cloud/Seph>Vincent>Tifa is what I had in mind. Unless Vincent and Tifa can be counted in the same tier, then it's a second tier FFVII character.

For one thing FFVII/OoT is on a whole different tier than any other game so it's expected for a second tier character to be pretty strong.
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Kamekguy | Posted 11/21/2010 9:33:53 AM | message detail
Jeez 3rd-tier characters are pathetic.

I mean it's not like Bowser would have any credible strength, 3rd-tier Mario character he is.

Pathetic.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/21/2010 9:33:59 AM | message detail
How is that trolling? Cloud/Seph>Vincent>Tifa is what I had in mind. Unless Vincent and Tifa can be counted in the same tier, then it's a second tier FFVII character.

3rd tier FF7 characters are still ridiculously powerful. As I said before, Tifa and Vincent are in Top 15 characters on this site.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:34:47 AM | message detail
Vincent and Tifa are on the same tier, yes. There's actually a substantial amount of evidence suggesting that she is stronger, even.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 9:35:11 AM | message detail
Vincent almost beat sonic didn't he? Yeah i'd say he's close to a N9.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/21/2010 9:36:36 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #224
Vincent and Tifa are on the same tier, yes. There's actually a substantial amount of evidence suggesting that she is stronger, even.


Not really, unless you think that Samus match was legit, or 2010 Sephiroth is equal to 2005 Sephiroth.
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695924 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:38:20 AM | message detail
I still can't take Valve seriously. I'm having trouble seeing HL2 getting past Fallout 3.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2010 9:39:51 AM | message detail
You people are getting into an argument because Yesmar can't read Gordon's strength correctly. Yesmar is the same guy who whined for weeks because Sess left him off of a list. Seriously, what are you people even doing.

Oh and Valve pretty clearly boosted thanks to Steam and etc. As recently as 1 year ago, Portal probably doesn't demolish a match like it did in the first round. Now? It's basically a boost across the board. People are forgetting how pathetic TF2 was last year. Valve will only continue going up, too.
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AxemPink | Posted 11/21/2010 9:39:56 AM | message detail
Not really, unless you think that Samus match was legit, or 2010 Sephiroth is equal to 2005 Sephiroth.

I don't think that, but I do think 2010 Sephiroth = 2010 Sephiroth!

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Sephiroth_vs_%288%29Vincent_Valentine_2010
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%281%29Sephiroth_vs_%2810%29Tifa_Lockheart_2010
charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:40:20 AM | message detail
I still can't take Valve seriously. I'm having trouble seeing HL2 getting past Fallout 3.

You're not alone in that one, not many people are taking that upset.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/21/2010 9:40:22 AM | message detail

From: 695924 | #227
I still can't take Valve seriously. I'm having trouble seeing HL2 getting past Fallout 3.


Well Fallout 3 is a monster and has everyone playing New Vegas, so you're definitely right.
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EvilNcr | Posted 11/21/2010 9:41:10 AM | message detail
HL2 is definitely not getting through a popular RPG like Fallout 3.
Yes, Valve games got a big boost since the console releases but it's not enough to beat strong RPG opponents.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:42:00 AM | message detail
People are forgetting how pathetic TF2 was last year.

Just to remind people Call of Duty 4 almost tripled it.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/21/2010 9:43:44 AM | message detail
Just noticed Batman dropped almost 1% on that 12:35 PM update. That was all because of TF2 spiking a little bit while Batman dropped off at the same time.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:44:08 AM | message detail
Okay Half-Life 2 isn't that far from Fallout 3. Really if it wasn't for New Vegas I think a lot of people would have gone for the upset.

40% against TP vs. 42% against MGS4.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:45:44 AM | message detail
Just noticed Batman dropped almost 1% on that 12:35 PM update. That was all because of TF2 spiking a little bit while Batman dropped off at the same time.

Yeah I saw that. I was sort of expecting a rally that'll improve TF2's percent before people gave up.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 9:48:12 AM | message detail

From: 695924 | #227
I still can't take Valve seriously. I'm having trouble seeing HL2 getting past Fallout 3.


This is not even a favourite pick so i don;'t know why you mentioned this.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/21/2010 9:53:05 AM | message detail
I was sort of expecting a rally that'll improve TF2's percent before people gave up.

Didn't appear to be a rally. I checked Twitter and only saw 2 people who used the Twitter rallying links for TF2.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/21/2010 9:58:02 AM | message detail
Hmm... I expected Batman to do a few percentage points worse. That would have given me more confidence in SFIV. Might have to back ol' Drake now.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/21/2010 9:59:22 AM | message detail
Both games are from 2009 so I'm not sure how Batman's performance would be good of either game.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/21/2010 10:03:52 AM | message detail
You're not thinking outside the box, maaaaan. The 2009 underperformers have been the big Western games that performed best (MW2, UC2, ACII). Games like SFIV and RE5 did comparatively well for themselves. Had Batman thrown another underperformance in the fray today, I'd have felt better about SFIV. Now, not so much.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/21/2010 10:06:05 AM | message detail
performed best in the GotY poll, I mean.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 10:06:40 AM | message detail
GOTY poll last year was terrible. You're supposed to have the strongest games in the final. Batman was clearly the 3rd strongest game last year and it didn't make the final becaie of some stupid " new IP" poll. I reckon Batman is probably stronger than Unhcarted 2 now.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/21/2010 10:11:37 AM | message detail
It is worth mentioning that HL2 got 39% on an apparently weakened TP. TP did a hell of a lot better on RE4 once KHII left the picture.

BUT THEN AGAIN

TP mauled MGS3. MGS4 couldn't beat TP by that much with SSBB and RE4 present. 40% on TP is worth quite a bit more than 42% on MGS4, especially since most people here see MGS3 as stronger. But HL2 has yet to be truly tested and I have growing doubts about it.

Such a shame TP is getting fed to Smash Bros in round 5. It could definitely have a shot at the final if it were in the second half of the bracket.
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TF2beatsBatman | Posted 11/21/2010 10:14:01 AM | message detail
The TF2 boards are full of poser trolls that think it's funny to vote for the opposite of TF2, so rallying doesn't really work that well.

And then there's a bunch of people who are mad at valve for hats or crates or something insignificant
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/21/2010 10:15:14 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3473

I don't see what weakened TP in that poll.

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/21/2010 10:18:02 AM | message detail
A certain Nintendo system exclusive game.

Involves lawyers.

What?
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/21/2010 10:18:23 AM | message detail
TP vs Brawl/melee would be a crap boring final. And i dont' think TP is stronger than FFX. Though i do think MGS4 is weaker this year than last. Not being able to double AC is quite poor.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/21/2010 10:24:21 AM | message detail
Well, TP vs. FFX could be interesting. After FFX has disappointed so far, I'd probably take TP.

Oh, and let's face it: the final's gonna be boring regardless. Smash Bros is going to stomp whatever it faces. Honestly, there's basically no way it's gonna be interesting. It's just a matter of WHICH Smash Bros game stomps. I know Allen wanted to keep the rest of the bracket interesting but if you want an interesting final, Brawl/Melee is what you're after.

Anyway. I just wish TP's path wasn't so set in stone. If it were in the second half it would have the chance to shake things up a bit and cause some upsets. I think the best choice would have been if TP and MM were swapped. MM/Galaxy and MM/KH would have been more interesting.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/21/2010 10:28:49 AM | message detail
... dammit, can't believe I missed a Gordon argument. >_<!
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