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pjbasis | Posted 11/20/2010 1:13:54 AM | message detail
Are we gonna get to Part 1000 by the end?
When did we start?
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AxemPink | Posted 11/20/2010 1:28:00 AM | message detail
From this year, Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow got 23.1% on Kingdom Hearts, an actual tripling rather than the near tripling Paper Mario got last year. In its vote-in poll, C:DoS got 40% against Gears of War 2, which is almost certainly weaker than Gears of War, which is currently struggling to 40% on Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, which is more likely than not weaker than Paper Mario...Uh. Yeah, something was fishy that match.

Maybe Paper Mario got SFFed in 2009 not only by Metroid Prime but also to some degree by Kingdom Hearts? SMRPG was made by Square, and for some time before release Nintendo were calling Paper Mario "Super Mario RPG 2."

For that matter, Metroid Prime got 45% on Wind Waker in 2004, which sounds pretty good considering Metroid/Samus's reputation for collapsing in the face of higher-profile Nintendo. Perhaps Metroid Prime is immune to Metroid's general SFF woes? Meaning the familiar pattern people thought they saw last year was actually Paper Mario being pretty decent?

Maybe we should try to get Metroid Prime into the next character battle contest and see how it does? It worked well enough for Diablo, and maybe some people will think they're actually voting for Samus? >__>

Oh, and would anyone take Paper Mario > Super Mario Galaxy? >_>
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/20/2010 2:57:24 AM | message detail
Whoo, internet in South Africa is so bad! I won't have regular access again until December 1st. Lots of charts to catch up on!
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2010 4:36:23 AM | message detail
I think my pre-contest guess of hitting #1,000 was ToS/GoW...kooks like I'm gonna be pretty far off! We should hit it before the end of the contest though, especially as we see more of the heavy-weights.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 11/20/2010 4:54:33 AM | message detail
Yay, both Paper Marios are in Round 2! :D

So is Oblivion really strong and TTYD's run ends next round? That's too bad. I want to see both in Round 3. >_>
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2010 5:22:48 AM | message detail
You might see one in R3, but no way are you seeing both. Sorry.

Speaking of which, I still don't buy PM being any kind of favorite over WoW now. Tidus beat King of all Cosmos worse than PM beat KD, and Marth nearly doubled Prince of all Cosmos despite Donkey Kong in the poll. I also remain unconvinced PM is that much bigger than Animal Crossing; I think it could beat Gears about like PM:TYD currently is and wouldn't do much worse against KD than PM. WoW's still looking okay in my book.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/20/2010 5:24:06 AM | message detail
If you think Paper Mario and Animal Crossing are in the same universe I think you are bloody raving mad.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2010 5:29:19 AM | message detail
It's not like PM was a huge game, and MP got like 62% on it. No polls before this contest ever suggested PM was worth much here, either. I'd take PM > AC, but it's likely not some 59-41 affair indirectly until proven otherwise...and both KD and Gears are pretty horrible examples to use for saying PM's got strength, percentages be damned.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 11/20/2010 6:53:24 AM | message detail
You might see one in R3, but no way are you seeing both. Sorry.

S'allright. This is still way better than last time when PM was kicked to the curb round 1 and PM2 didn't even qualify.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/20/2010 6:59:11 AM | message detail
Wasn't TTYD stronger than the original Paper Mario? I mean, a little stronger?

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695924 | Posted 11/20/2010 7:06:43 AM | message detail
WoW>PM is a lock.
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Bigwig_rah | Posted 11/20/2010 7:08:02 AM | message detail
PM>WoW is a lock.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/20/2010 7:15:25 AM | message detail
PM / WoW is a debatable match.

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Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/20/2010 7:22:07 AM | message detail
The last three matches (WW/GoW, AC/ICO, TTYD/GoW) have all been east/west conflicts... and the western game has always done much better than Asia than elsewhere (God of War nearly doubled WW there!). Weird.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 7:51:16 AM | message detail
Asia is pretty weird (probably because of the small sample size and the Philippines being the dominant country instead of Japan). Nintendo ouside of Pokemon is not well liked, they hate Zelda and they really hate Metroid.
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GotD Bracket: 54/62 Today's Matches: PM: TTYD & Oblivion
charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 7:53:56 AM | message detail
Match LXIV: (2) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion vs. (15) Soul Calibur II

Information

Name: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Year: 2006
Previous Performance: SpC2k9 – 4th in round 3

Name: Soul Calibur II
Year: 2003
Previous Performance: N/A

Analysis

Final match of the round marks the half-way point of this contest. We’ve seen a lot of crazy stuff already and I think we can all agree that SBAllen has mostly done a great job in putting the bracket together. As for this match I originally thought Soul Calibur II was going to have a respectful performance, but as time went on it became more apparent that Oblivion is going cruise to the next round.

Everyone in that vote-in except oddly enough Viewtiful Joe looked terrible this contest and as much as I don’t want it to happen it seems that it will likely be the same here. It’s obvious that Soul Calibur II is the strongest game of the series, but given what the original did last contest that isn’t saying much. Too bad the game didn’t use the Gamecube box art it would have been interesting to see if Link would have done something.

Oblivion was a decent surprise from last contest, but given that Final Fantasy VIII got 74% on the original I don’t think Oblivion will be breaking 70% on Soul Calibur II like a few people are suggesting. Still given the vote-in Oblivion is likely to pull off the doubling here.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Oblivion > Soul Calibur II

charmander6000’s Prediction: Oblivion wins, 67.32% - 32.68%

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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 54/62 Today's Matches: PM: TTYD & Oblivion
red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2010 8:27:05 AM | message detail
The results don't jive at all with what we saw last year. I think these two PM performances, coupled with Prime's own very good showing against a jRPG (we've seen what those have been doing) in a night match spell really good news for Prime.

I've always thought New Nintendo SFF was really really bad. My guess is that Prime beats Vice City with some (but not too much) room to spare, and PM gets fairly close to VC.

Incidentally, I've been thinking about the counterpart to this discussion- Old Nintendo LFF, particularly SMW/SMB3 LFF, and I think it could have been substantially higher in the semifinals than in the earlier rounds. The reason is, in the semifinals, by putting FFVII and LTTP in there, most of the people who would vote for one of the Mario games were from the core Mario fanbase that really loves the games. The universal side of the fanbase was mostly ripped away from them in the face of overwhelming strength, and the core, much smaller, fanbase, is capable of producing the LFF the universal side is not.

Though I expect people here already thought that, as I haven't seen people saying LTTP beats SMW with 57% or so, which is what the minimal LFF in previous rounds suggest!
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/20/2010 8:29:22 AM | message detail
This is a fighting game which sold well on the Gamecube lets not forget and soul calibur has a fanbase. I doubt Oblivion gets 67%.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 8:47:36 AM | message detail
I and I think others expect LttP to have a close match with SMW/SMB3 before SFF.


This is a fighting game which sold well on the Gamecube lets not forget and soul calibur has a fanbase. I doubt Oblivion gets 67%.

I want to believe that, but like I said nothing is really giving me any faith for that to happen.
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GotD Bracket: 54/62 Today's Matches: PM: TTYD & Oblivion
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/20/2010 8:51:37 AM | message detail
What if It's the Gamecube over with LINK on the front? that would be funny.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/20/2010 8:59:02 AM | message detail
What if It's the Gamecube over with LINK on the front? that would be funny.

But its not. Its PS2 version with Heihachi. Soul Calibur was really weak last contest, also.. and I don't think SC2 will be much stronger than the first if at all.
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/20/2010 9:00:14 AM | message detail
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 66.67%

6
SoulCalibur II 33.33%

3
TOTAL VOTES 9
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/20/2010 9:00:27 AM | message detail
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 71.43%

5
SoulCalibur II 28.57%

2
TOTAL VOTES 7

Second vote for Kinda Looks Like Link!!!!!
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/20/2010 9:00:28 AM | message detail
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 52.94% 9
SoulCalibur II 47.06% 8

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 9:00:30 AM | message detail
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 53.85% 7
SoulCalibur II 46.15% 6
TOTAL VOTES 13

Awesome start SC2
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 54/62 Today's Matches: PM: TTYD & Oblivion
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/20/2010 9:00:45 AM | message detail
wrpgs even lose the board vote to fighting games

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 9:00:57 AM | message detail
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 29.33%

lol casuals
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GotD Bracket: 54/62 Today's Matches: PM: TTYD & Oblivion
Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/20/2010 9:01:01 AM | message detail
**** yeah, Oblivion.
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 11/20/2010 9:01:43 AM | message detail
Strike up another one for The West!
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 9:03:06 AM | message detail
Soul Calibur was really weak last contest, also.. and I don't think SC2 will be much stronger than the first if at all.

Yeah... no.

SC2 would win rather easily.
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GotD Bracket: 54/62 Today's Matches: PM: TTYD & Oblivion
medicority | Posted 11/20/2010 9:03:42 AM | message detail
SC2 was pretty big when it came out
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/20/2010 9:03:45 AM | message detail
Well, we never saw SC2 in a contest, yet SC1 has appeared in both of the previous contests. That has to account for something.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/20/2010 9:04:00 AM | message detail
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 29.33%

What?! Didn't they see how Portal/GoW2 ended up?!


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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/20/2010 9:04:01 AM | message detail
No Link shenanigans, but there's no way Oblivion can even make R2 interesting by languishing around in the low 60s here. Gotta rise to at least a doubling imo.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2010 9:05:22 AM | message detail
I think it's pretty much time to throw in the towel on Oblivion > Wind Waker, not really because of this match, but because of Wind Waker's show.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 9:05:27 AM | message detail
What?! Didn't they see how Portal/GoW2 ended up?!

Can't change your bracket.
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GotD Bracket: 54/62 Today's Matches: PM: TTYD & Oblivion
G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 11/20/2010 9:06:10 AM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #383
What?! Didn't they see how Portal/GoW2 ended up?!


And that would help their set-in-stone bracket becauuuse...?
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2010 9:06:35 AM | message detail
It's too bad we don't get to see Wind Waker vs. Fallout 3 instead.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.
charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 9:06:52 AM | message detail
Well, we never saw SC2 in a contest, yet SC1 has appeared in both of the previous contests. That has to account for something.

Let's see...

Contest 1: Nominations split by console, not hard to see why SC made it while SC2 didn't
Contest 2: Board brought SC in with add/remove over SSB.
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 54/62 Today's Matches: PM: TTYD & Oblivion
Advokaiser | Posted 11/20/2010 9:07:10 AM | message detail
And that would help their set-in-stone bracket becauuuse...?

Oh, right. Silly me... >.<

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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 11/20/2010 9:07:12 AM | message detail
And yeah, I'll take 64% on GoW2 over 64% on SC2. Better luck next time, WRPGs.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/20/2010 9:07:23 AM | message detail
Eh, its tough to say Oblivion has no chance just because its facing something thats a total unknown and not doubling it (yet). Lets see how Paper Mario 1 looks next round and then how Oblivion does on it. Remember, Oblivion barely beat WoW last contest and some people are saying TTYD = PM1, so if PM1 beats WoW and Oblivion does a number on TTYD, I think its still looking good.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/20/2010 9:09:34 AM | message detail
Eh, its tough to say Oblivion has no chance just because its facing something thats a total unknown and not doubling it (yet).

Isn't Soul Calibur one of the most popular fighting franchises? Also, I didn't really know what Oblivion or The Elder Scrolls were until the 2009 contest.

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695924 | Posted 11/20/2010 9:10:48 AM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #393
Eh, its tough to say Oblivion has no chance just because its facing something thats a total unknown and not doubling it (yet).

Isn't Soul Calibur one of the most popular fighting franchises? Also, I didn't really know what Oblivion or The Elder Scrolls were until the 2009 contest.


SF is the only fighting game franchise that is worth anything on GameFAQs.
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 11/20/2010 9:10:57 AM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #393
Also, I didn't really know what Oblivion or The Elder Scrolls were until the 2009 contest.


Well, that settles it. TTYD > Oblivion.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/20/2010 9:15:28 AM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
60------1------------0.00
59------7------------71.43
58------46----------73.91
57------102--------53.92
56------302--------54.64
55------530--------50.38
54------897--------48.61
53------1388------48.92
52------1671------40.69
51------1989------35.95
50------2166------30.84
49------2262------28.56
48------2264------26.06
47------2233------22.39
46------2307------21.15
45------2140------21.59
44------2007------22.67
43------1843------21.16
42------1561------22.29
41------1279------26.43
40------1025------26.24
39------798--------28.70
38------611--------29.13
37------429--------33.10
36------345--------35.94
35------247--------37.65
34------192--------41.67
33------142--------42.25
32------92----------39.13
31------85----------44.71
30------38----------44.74
29------31----------48.39
28------26----------38.46
27------17----------17.65
26------23----------30.43
25------11----------36.36
24------7------------14.29
23------8------------12.50
22------8------------12.50
21------5------------20.00
20------6------------0.00
19------6------------33.33
18------13----------7.69
17------4------------0.00
16------4------------25.00
15------6------------0.00
14------7------------14.29
13------9------------0.00
12------10----------10.00
11------10----------10.00
10------17----------0.00
9--------7------------0.00
8--------11----------0.00
7--------4------------0.00
6--------3------------0.00
5--------5------------0.00
4--------4------------0.00
3--------1------------0.00
2--------8------------0.00
1--------26----------3.85
0--------18----------5.56

It's not too unexpected for the prediction percentage to be low but I didn't expect it to be this bad. On the second last match on Round 1, the last -2 bracket went down. The -3s and -4s atually don't do too badly and manage to stay above 70. After that the prediction percentage divebombs to just above 50. It quickly falls from there too until it goes below 30 at -13. From there the prediction percentage fades as normal. Gurus had 81.18% for Paper Mario:TTYD versus the casual's 29.33%. 51.85 percentage points is an even bigger beatdown then what the Gurus got in SMS vs Halo3 (46 percentage points).

11 people fell off the Top 50. MercenaryXL, warriorsallofit, PSU_Jer, bh102483, JojoX97, ArchSorcererX, Dr_Naysay, Teh_Ronin, ZenzokukenX, firebotslash and CanadianGuy114 did not have Paper Mario:TTYD beating Gears of War.

3 people got it wrong but survived. Current first place OceloTRaveN, former third place ryjake and RwK4 also did not have Paper Mario:TTYD beating Gears of War.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 9:18:30 AM | message detail
Top 50 Brackets

Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 21
Super Smash Bros. Melee - 8
Final Fantasy X - 5
LoZ: Majora's Mask - 4
Super Mario Galaxy - 3
LoZ: Twilight Princess - 2
World of Warcraft - 1
Half-Life 2 - 1
Portal - 1
Halo: Combat Evolved - 1
Fallout 3 - 1
Kingdom Hearts - 1
Metroid Prime - 1


Brawl seems to be the heavy favourite, but I think we know why.
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GotD Bracket: 54/62 Today's Matches: PM: TTYD & Oblivion
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/20/2010 9:20:21 AM | message detail
I'm kinda surprised there are no GSC pickers.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/20/2010 9:22:26 AM | message detail
I think it's pretty much time to throw in the towel on Oblivion > Wind Waker, not really because of this match, but because of Wind Waker's show.

I thought people were making a bad joke when they talked about Oblivion > WW. Are you telling me that people were actually serious??
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