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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 7:55:22 PM | message detail
but AC was *huge* and was massively hyped. AC2 was a hell of a lot quieter, and it shows in the sales.

basically, it's MGS2 vs. MGS3.
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lightsout06 | Posted 11/19/2010 7:58:35 PM | message detail
Which is more likely to happen?

Diablo II>MGS4 or SotC>MGS2
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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 7:58:49 PM | message detail
SOTC.
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695924 | Posted 11/19/2010 7:59:19 PM | message detail

From: lightsout06 | #252
Which is more likely to happen?

Diablo II>MGS4 or SotC>MGS2


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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 8:02:50 PM | message detail
SotC
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lightsout06 | Posted 11/19/2010 8:06:39 PM | message detail
If Diablo II beats MGS4 does it win its division?
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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 8:07:45 PM | message detail
it could, yeah. but the chances of D2 winning are pretty low.
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 11/19/2010 8:08:08 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #245
Ahahaha. Oh geez are you kidding me? That pic advantage is absolutely ridiculous. Hilarious. I actually laughed out loud when I saw that ****.


If you think that's funny, you should have seen the mess we had before!
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EvilNcr | Posted 11/19/2010 8:09:04 PM | message detail
I don't see D2 winning but if it does, it's not guaranteed to win anyway. There's MGS2 (which it would definitely beat if it gets through MGS4) and MGS3 (who looks the strongest so far)
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/19/2010 8:13:24 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3499
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3507

...not sure where this Diablo 2 > MGS4 talk is coming from; D2 barely breaks 39% on MGS4 through FFX before considering KH is in D2's poll. Looking at it like this, just how convinced are we that D2 has to perform better than AC?
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creativename | Posted 11/19/2010 8:13:43 PM | message detail
Wait, so the UC2 was changed? That was even more one-sided before? Wow.

From: IkaMusume | #191
At least it should make the people who want non game character contests to give up on that idea!


Hah. What kind of lunacy is this? Because AA is even 1/3rd as strong as Batman the character? Are you being sarcastic and I'm just missing it? The difference between AA in a games context and Batman the character in a character context would be monumental. Batman would be one of the strongest characters, AA is not even a midcarder game. It would get smoked by anything with noteworthy strength.

Man, that stats topic sometimes.

From: HaRRicH | #201
I'll take TF2 to break 40%, but I don't want to go much higher than that. I'm also still taking LoD to beat SF4. Halo 3/Halo should be the last good match


Why do you expect Halo/Halo 3 to be a good match? I wouldn't be at all surprised if TF2 got more on AA than Halo 3 did on Halo.

From: VaultBoyAlbion | #247
Is this based on anything? Because that's not what I would expect at all.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722


Meh. I'd never think to take Batman over AC2 in a 1v1 poll. That seems wildly counter-intuitive.

From: transients | #248
AC1 sold like twice as much. you made the DMC2->3 comparison but AC2 suffers from the same thing, just on a lesser level.


I never said DMC2>DMC3. I said comparing DMC3 to AC2 was not a good comparison. AC2 was much closer in hype to AC1, than DMC3 to DMC1. I never saw this huge difference in AC1 vs. AC2 hype like you're saying. I saw AC2 hype everywhere. And as said, DMC1 was much more beloved than AC1. There is no analogy between AC1/AC2 and DMC1/DMC3.
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creativename | Posted 11/19/2010 8:18:55 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #260
...not sure where this Diablo 2 > MGS4 talk is coming from; D2 barely breaks 39% on MGS4 through FFX before considering KH is in D2's poll. Looking at it like this, just how convinced are we that D2 has to perform better than AC?


Is there any D2>MGS4 hype? I think it was just a hypothetical question, and I think everyone agrees that both upsets are unlikely, but SOTC>MGS2 is actually somewhat possible because there's an outside chance MGS2 might be much weaker than its sequels due to hate (although I don't think it's that much weaker, myself).

I do expect it to do better than AC just because outside of stats, I'd expect D2 to be stronger on this site than AC. But I think MGS4 will still win pretty handily. I'd be surprised if it got less than 56%.
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695924 | Posted 11/19/2010 8:23:57 PM | message detail
Yea those two aren't likely to happen. But my reasoning for D2>MGS4 would be D3 hype, while I don't see an art game beating a MGS game with anti votes alone.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/19/2010 8:28:25 PM | message detail
Meh. I'd never think to take Batman over AC2 in a 1v1 poll. That seems wildly counter-intuitive.

Huh, why? I would expect Batman to win that easily based off of Batman votes. Its not like AC2 is strong... and I'm not sure I'd take Ico to smash Psychonauts or anything, which is what it would have to do to have AC2 win that match
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/19/2010 8:28:30 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #261
Why do you expect Halo/Halo 3 to be a good match? I wouldn't be at all surprised if TF2 got more on AA than Halo 3 did on Halo.


I just don't think the Halo-split's going to be so big. I'm siding with Halo 3 too, but for this board being torn on MGS3/4 and KH1/2 while favoring SSBB to SSBM, favoring Halo 1 so unanimously in a series that seems to really leave its previous games behind more than these other series feels like uneducated group-think. I think Halo 1's the favorite, but just saying "it's the original" doesn't do the match the justice it deserves. There's not really any reason why a close SFF-match has to have an obvious winner or a big margin of victory; they both looked about the same in BGE2, and with the new FPS-rush coming here between Halo Reach and CoD: Black Ops, who knows if that'll show a bias toward the newer Halo-game that's on their same system or not.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/19/2010 8:32:26 PM | message detail
Perhaps I misspoke, but I don't see how the upset of D2 > MGS4 can be compared by likelihood to the upset of SotC > MGS2. Unless we get some Facebook-inspired fishiness here like at GameSpot, D2's just not able to make that upset happen. SotC's capable to some degree.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/19/2010 8:36:25 PM | message detail
Er...I said I'm siding with Halo 3. Whoops -- I meant Halo 1.
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creativename | Posted 11/19/2010 8:37:44 PM | message detail

From: VaultBoyAlbion | #264
Meh. I'd never think to take Batman over AC2 in a 1v1 poll. That seems wildly counter-intuitive.

Huh, why? I would expect Batman to win that easily based off of Batman votes. Its not like AC2 is strong... and I'm not sure I'd take Ico to smash Psychonauts or anything, which is what it would have to do to have AC2 win that match


I'm not sure there are any "Batman votes", if by that you mean votes for the game just because "it's Batman!". People will vote for the game, not the character. I just think AC2 would be the stronger game. I don't trust AA's strength as a game.

From: HaRRicH | #265
I just don't think the Halo-split's going to be so big. I'm siding with Halo 3 too, but for this board being torn on MGS3/4 and KH1/2 while favoring SSBB to SSBM, favoring Halo 1 so unanimously in a series that seems to really leave its previous games behind more than these other series feels like uneducated group-think. I think Halo 1's the favorite, but just saying "it's the original" doesn't do the match the justice it deserves.


Well I think Melee is actually the significant favorite on the board now, but yeah KH1/2 being a split makes sense - they should be almost equal indirectly and are equally well thought of by the fanbase. That's not the case with Halo 1/3. Halo 3 was massively hyped, but hasn't had the staying power and has been overshadowed by Call of Duty. Halo 1 is legendary. Halo 3 is not.

Halo 1 won't just win because it's the original, but it's the more respected and beloved and plain stronger game.

MGS3/4 is very debatable because both are well liked and I think MGS4 was probably a bigger deal/more hyped, but "LOL PS3 exclusive" and all.
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ZFS | Posted 11/19/2010 8:41:29 PM | message detail
AC1 sold like twice as much.

Not so sure there. I think both games sold about 8 million copies worldwide -- and AC2 did more than 2 million in its first two months on the market in the US alone.

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695924 | Posted 11/19/2010 8:42:48 PM | message detail
Sales really doesn't matter unless we are talking about extremely niche titles.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/19/2010 8:57:21 PM | message detail
The way I see it:

Sons of Liberty received killer critical reception when it came out but was quick to receive fan backlash. Since then all that has settled down and withered away.
Snake Eater had somewhat worse critical reception than Sons of Liberty but, partially thanks to Subsistence, ultimately rose up in MGS fans' minds.
Guns of the Patriots received killer critical reception when it came out, then died down, which is basically the opposite of Snake Eater.

Yeah.
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/19/2010 9:00:11 PM | message detail
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 100%

7
Gears of War 0%

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TOTAL VOTES 7
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/19/2010 9:00:14 PM | message detail
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 100%

6
Gears of War 0%

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/19/2010 9:00:29 PM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 9:00:37 PM | message detail
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 80% 16
Gears of War 20% 4
TOTAL VOTES 20

Gotta love that pro-Nintendo, anti-western bracket vote.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/19/2010 9:00:38 PM | message detail
you guys really need to play more than just nintendo games, sheesh

these board votes are so lame
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/19/2010 9:00:42 PM | message detail
Woah. PM is legit.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/19/2010 9:00:47 PM | message detail
It warmed my heart to see TTYD even briefly tripling GoW2.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 9:01:21 PM | message detail
Assassin's Creed II 80.48%

TTYD > PM looking pretty good.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/19/2010 9:01:32 PM | message detail
Tried Gears for like 15 minutes. Didn't like it, but maybe I'll try it again one day. It's gotta be cheap as dirt by now.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/19/2010 9:01:39 PM | message detail
Oh, it's GoW1

No matter, watching both Paper Mario's kick ass is still incredibly awesome. Best jRPGs ever.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/19/2010 9:02:29 PM | message detail
SNES > N64 > GC >>>>> Wii confirmed
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Xuxon | Posted 11/19/2010 9:02:33 PM | message detail
this will probably end under 60
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/19/2010 9:02:39 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #279
TTYD > PM looking pretty good.


Is it? Gears should rebound nicely here; probably break 40%. I always figured the first PM would be the strongest for some reason. I'd like actual fans of the series to voice their opinions, though.
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Glenn_and_Toad | Posted 11/19/2010 9:02:53 PM | message detail
Paper Mario represents everything that is good about video games

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 9:03:10 PM | message detail
SNES > N64 > GC >>>>> Wii confirmed

Pfft... this match shows GC > N64

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/19/2010 9:03:21 PM | message detail
PM/TTYD is a KH1/KH2 situation. I wouldn't take either of them with any certainty.

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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 11/19/2010 9:03:52 PM | message detail

From: Glenn_and_Toad | #284
Paper Mario represents everything that is good about video games

prove me wrong


It doesn't contain Viewtiful Joe, and therefore it is missing a vital element.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/19/2010 9:05:16 PM | message detail
I always figured the first PM would be the strongest for some reason. I'd like actual fans of the series to voice their opinions, though.

I loved Paper Mario; it's my favorite Mario game hands down, but I never really got into TTYD. Granted, I only saw/played it at friends' houses, but something about it stylistically was just repulsive. It's hard to explain.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/19/2010 9:05:38 PM | message detail
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 64.54% 515
Gears of War 35.46% 283
TOTAL VOTES 798

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/19/2010 9:06:11 PM | message detail
I think the original would do better, as it was more notable when it came out, was on the N64 whose games usually outperform their Gamecube counterparts, and has a simpler title. Plus the whole "Earlier games tend to perform better in series where the games are all similar" thing.

As a big fan of both games, I prefer TTYD myself. Really need to give that another playthrough when I get a chance.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/19/2010 9:07:06 PM | message detail
I disagree with the original being more notable. It came out at the tail-end of the N64's lifespan. TTYD came out during a time when people were clamoring for GC RPGs.

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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/19/2010 9:08:46 PM | message detail
I've never played Paper Mario, but liked SMRPG. What kind of elements does it retain from SMRPG, or is it a completely different type of game?
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/19/2010 9:10:21 PM | message detail
I actually haven't played SMRPG, so I can't answer the question, but Paper Mario is probably the simplest RPG you'll ever play. It has a very minimal story, and a very simple battle system- yet somehow it works wonderfully. Atmosphere is above all in games, and this is one of the games that proves it.
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WhiteLens | Posted 11/19/2010 9:10:28 PM | message detail
It has similar gameplay, like there's still timing involved for attacks, but that's pretty much it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/19/2010 9:10:28 PM | message detail
The original PM reminds me of SMRPG a lot, though SMRPG has a softe spot in my heart while I couldn't finish PM (got pretty far though). Can't say anything about PM's sequels though, except that my brother disliked PM:TYD and enjoyed SPM.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 9:10:29 PM | message detail
Nice TTYD didn't fall
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/19/2010 9:10:42 PM | message detail
that was an underwhelming 2nd update
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creativename | Posted 11/19/2010 9:11:06 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #291
I think the original would do better, as it was more notable when it came out, was on the N64 whose games usually outperform their Gamecube counterparts, and has a simpler title. Plus the whole "Earlier games tend to perform better in series where the games are all similar" thing.


Haha, I have absolutely no idea which would be the stronger PM game, but I think "simpler title" is honestly the best reasoning I've read so far on which game would be stronger :)

That and N64>GC, anyyway. As someone who isn't familiar with the series firsthand, I wouldn't think both games would be very far apart though.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 9:12:10 PM | message detail
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