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HaRRicH | Posted 11/19/2010 3:51:25 PM | message detail
I'll take TF2 to break 40%, but I don't want to go much higher than that. I'm also still taking LoD to beat SF4. Halo 3/Halo should be the last good match; 2009's proven to suck, but I don't think it sucks THIS much so much as it is MW2 bombing while the rest were just never supposed to be that big here.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/19/2010 3:54:18 PM | message detail

From: 695924 | #199
Before MvC2 beat NSMW I would have thought Uncharted would 60-40 SF4, but now I'm feeling silly having Uncharted go to the division finals lol.


To be fair, we've argued whether or not NSMBW would beat MKW and MKW should lose to MKDS...which lost to LoD, which got ~42% on Uncharted 2. 40% could still be a justifiable range through that marathon of an equation.
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/19/2010 3:59:13 PM | message detail

From: 695924 | #199
SF4 is looking more legit now. It also helps that the fighting game community is on the rise right now. There has been like 2 major tournaments in the last month with another one tomorrow. Before MvC2 beat NSMW I would have thought Uncharted would 60-40 SF4, but now I'm feeling silly having Uncharted go to the division finals lol.


It's worth asking whether fighting games are truly 'on the rise' or whether platforming games released after Super Mario 64 are just that weak...

There has to be a reason why the site overwhelmingly favored SFIV and Halo 3 over their respective matches against SA2 and SMS.
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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 4:03:04 PM | message detail
because SMS and SA2 aren't that liked. everyone's down on Sonic and SMS is a disaster in most people's eyes. it's kind of a disgrace that it got that close considering the popular reception gap between Halo 3 and SMS.

SF4 and MVC2 beat weak opponents. let's not get carried away. they did well for themselves but it's not like there's a huge fighting game boom here. they went up against bad games.
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/19/2010 4:07:17 PM | message detail
A lot of platformers have been sucking it up in these contests. SMG, R&C, NSMBW....
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695924 | Posted 11/19/2010 4:10:24 PM | message detail
SMS I understand since everyone hated that. But NSMBW didn't get much hate, although it wasn't as critically acclaimed as SMG or the pre-GC era games. So MvC2's win could well snowball into SF4 beating Uncharted 2.

And I don't think I've seen Uncharted 2 on the PS3 top 10 games/boards for a long time. Right now MvC3 is on top 10 games and SSFIV is on top 10 boards. There is definitely a fighting game boom however small it may be, it is certainly enough to push it over Uncharted 2 since it's just a PS3 exclusive.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/19/2010 4:11:14 PM | message detail
I haven't thought much about this, but are there any platformers outside the four biggest Mario games that are actually, ya know, strong? Is Mega Man X the closest we've got?
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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 4:11:27 PM | message detail
NSMB Wii fell upon deaf ears. it sold a truckload but not many real gamers cared.

SF4 can certainly beat Uncharted 2, but I don't think it's based on some big fighting game boost. it'd be because Uncharted 2 is weak.
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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 4:13:07 PM | message detail
the most popular non-Mario pure platformer is probably something from Sonic. maaaybe LBP. that's how much of a gap there is.

it's Super Metroid if that counts.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/19/2010 4:14:15 PM | message detail
Actually, I'd take Halo 3/ Halo 1 to beat SFIV. I have UC2 beating Halo 3 and never thought of an upset.

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Greyfeld | Posted 11/19/2010 4:15:36 PM | message detail
If SF4 beats UC2, it'll be a due to a combination of SSF4's release, and UC2 being a PS3 exclusive. They're still doing the occasional DLC pack for UC2, but it doesn't have the expansive multiplayer fanbase that huge franchises like CoD and Halo do.
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/19/2010 4:16:42 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #207
I haven't thought much about this, but are there any platformers outside the four biggest Mario games that are actually, ya know, strong? Is Mega Man X the closest we've got?


Yeah, you can make a flimsy case for both Sonic and Mega Man. That's about it. Really, it's easier to argue that both series disappointed in the last games contest though.

From: 695924 | #206
And I don't think I've seen Uncharted 2 on the PS3 top 10 games/boards for a long time. Right now MvC3 is on top 10 games and SSFIV is on top 10 boards. There is definitely a fighting game boom however small it may be, it is certainly enough to push it over Uncharted 2 since it's just a PS3 exclusive.


Board traffic doesn't mean much. Otherwise, games like TF2 would not have struggled with Fable of all games.
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695924 | Posted 11/19/2010 4:17:19 PM | message detail
I don't know how strong the Halo anti vote is right now, but if Halo 1 beats Halo 3, it's not going to stop until Fallout 3.
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695924 | Posted 11/19/2010 4:18:54 PM | message detail

From: kinsho3 | #212
Board traffic doesn't mean much. Otherwise, games like TF2 would not have struggled with Fable of all games.


True. Just going by board traffic you'd think it would stomp on Fable.
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 11/19/2010 4:33:29 PM | message detail
Ok, so we got the UC2 match pic changed to ya know, UC2

http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/gotd/gotd-67.jpg

And Drake has got a gun. Bullets > Hadoukens.
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IkaMusume | Posted 11/19/2010 4:35:14 PM | message detail
oh cool Bacon actually listened
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/19/2010 4:38:17 PM | message detail
doesn't look changed to me
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/19/2010 4:38:45 PM | message detail
wait nvm just had to refresh
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ZFS | Posted 11/19/2010 4:38:59 PM | message detail
Nice compression on that pic.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/19/2010 4:41:49 PM | message detail
Bracket fanboys ruining everyone's fun.

(I'd do the same)
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/19/2010 4:42:12 PM | message detail
Good change. Now somebody tell me they saved the original pic.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 5:13:17 PM | message detail
Wow, ICO is performing pretty well. I still think ACII > AC or at least it would be close so this is probably ICO looking good.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/19/2010 5:16:13 PM | message detail
My thoughts on the match pictures:

-Fallout 3's looks amazing. Massive props to whoever made it.
-TF2 is gonna demolish Batman.
-I didn't see the original Uncharted picture, but the new one is freakin' awesome. Best of luck to ya, SFIV.
-The Halo picture is a riot. :D

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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/19/2010 5:17:53 PM | message detail
Yeah, the Fallout 3 pic represents the game so well... All alone, except just you and your dog in a post apocalyptic wasteland

I hope we get a Vault Boy pic one of these rounds though
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/19/2010 5:29:25 PM | message detail
I dunno, Uncharted 2 was higher than Street Fighter IV on Screwattack's "Top 10 Online Multiplayer Console games". Obviously UC2 must have a multiplayer following.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/19/2010 5:30:57 PM | message detail
screw screwattack
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 5:30:58 PM | message detail
UC2 has multiplayer?
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/19/2010 5:36:14 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #227
UC2 has multiplayer?


50k people online daily

i think it's safe to assume it's not the same 50k people each day as well
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G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 11/19/2010 5:44:18 PM | message detail
The FO3 pic is my favorite of the bunch. Nice big logo and really captures the spirit and atmosphere of the game in a single shot.
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695924 | Posted 11/19/2010 5:47:16 PM | message detail
UC2 might have a big multiplayer following, but they aren't as dedicated as fighting game fans.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/19/2010 6:30:36 PM | message detail
Wow, today is even more proof for Majora's Mask waltzing to the semifinals.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/19/2010 6:39:12 PM | message detail
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 11/19/2010 6:39:30 PM | message detail
YESSSS UC2 match pic change, it wins
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/19/2010 6:41:52 PM | message detail
I hope we get a Vault Boy pic one of these rounds though

Yessss! If Vault Boy doesn't make the next contest, I'm going to be really bummed. Just sayin'.

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creativename | Posted 11/19/2010 7:19:23 PM | message detail
59.75% prediction for Wind Waker? What??! GoW does seem like a series that would be overestimated - but by *that* much in a non-debatable match against a Zelda game? That really surprises me.

...would World of Warcraft actually been a bracket favorite maybe against Wind Waker if that match had happened?

From: PartOfYourWorld | #015
I'd like to know why MM is still getting zero respect around here. GSC is dead in the water against Wind Waker, but it still gets past Majora with ease? Is Wind Waker/Majora a 60/40 or something? Makes little sense.


I feel the same way, I think MM and WW are probably pretty close. I've always thought WW had a slight edge there, though.

But yeah, WW>GSC>MM seems weird...I don't think if the difference between MM and WW is big enough for Pokemon to squeeze into. I think GSC either beats both, or loses to MM.

From: NoDicePwn | #018
MM > WW just sounds like one of those "Common sense" picks. Wind Waker feels like the black sheep of the series to me, like a FF12 to MM being a FF8. Until we see them matched up (or based off of GSC), I will continue to feel that way


Albion thinks MM>WW. WW>MM confirmed, based on the Immutable Law of "Albion is always wrong. Always."
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 7:23:34 PM | message detail
Yeah while I feel confident that WW would defeat MM the match would be close before SFF.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/19/2010 7:26:07 PM | message detail
...would World of Warcraft actually been a bracket favorite maybe against Wind Waker if that match had happened?

World of Warcraft would be a bracket favorite against anything significant. Don't forget that Oblivion/MGS3 only made up 40% of the advancing prediction last game contest, when WoW was in the same match. WoW musta blown both of them away in terms of brackets.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 7:30:57 PM | message detail
WoW is probably on or even above Halo tier when it comes to brackets so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the favourite.

The game got 92%, in a 58/42 match. I knew it was going to be high (my prediction was 83% iirc), but this is crazy. The only other match that broke 90% in prediction yet failed to break 70% on its opponent was Mass Effect/PvZ.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/19/2010 7:35:05 PM | message detail
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if WoW was top 5 in brackets for winning the entire contest. Sadly it doesn't translate to votes, but oh well!
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 7:36:28 PM | message detail
Match LXIII: (7) Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door vs. (10) Gears of War

Information

Name: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Year: 2004
Previous Performance: N/A

Name: Gears of War
Year: 2006
Previous Performance: SpC2k9 – 4th in round 1

Analysis

Despite this match getting some hype almost everyone is siding with the same game. While Gears of War does have a chance at winning this match Paper Mario is by far the safe choice. Kind of weird with the way Mario has been performing in this contest, but it isn’t like Gears of War is giving off any strength vibes.

Personally I would take this Paper Mario game over the original, but a lot of people seem to disagree. At least most people agree that the two games would be close. This puts Paper Mario: TTYD in a good position since while Paper Mario did perform slightly worse on Kingdom Hearts than Gears of War did on Resident Evil 4 Metroid Prime was in the match handing out LFF. It does seem Paper Mario is stronger this contest due to its massive win over Katamari Damacy, but that could be due to Katamari Damacy being a weak game.

Gears of War performed terribly in the last contest and it could be even weaker this contest. However people using Gears of War 2’s performance as proof are in the wrong. Gears of War 2 was one of those games that came and went, it’s no surprise that the game would be significantly weaker than the original.

Gears of War does have a small window in where if all the planets line up it could pull off the upset. Mario games have not looked that great this contest though it does help TTYD’s case that the original was the only Mario game to look decent. With that said Paper Mario will be the favourite going in and I wouldn’t be surprised if it won rather comfortably.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Paper Mario: TTYD > Gears of War

charmander6000’s Prediction: Paper Mario: TTYD wins, 57.26% - 42.74%

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Billy Blaze | Posted 11/19/2010 7:37:35 PM | message detail
I do feel much weaker about my MM>GSC knowing that Albion believes it too.

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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 7:38:45 PM | message detail
PM1 would rock the second.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 7:40:26 PM | message detail
^ if that's true Gears of War is going to win and Mario will have burned the board once again.
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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 7:44:08 PM | message detail
nah. there's a sizable gap between PM1 and Gears 2.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 7:45:50 PM | message detail
Well Gears 1 would smash Gears 2
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creativename | Posted 11/19/2010 7:47:48 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #081
Batman > ACII (albeit barely)


Is this based on anything? Because that's not what I would expect at all.

From: PartOfYourWorld | #115
Excellent point, I totally agree. Assassin's Creed was a pretty good game with lots of potential; ACII realized much of that potential. It's pretty similar to Mass Effect/ME2. As soon as it was released, God of War was praised to the moon and back.


Exactly. I don't buy this sudden influx of AC>AC2 hype. I almost always tend to think the original is stronger, but I have never seen anything that indicates AC is as strong as AC2. Just because AC2 isn't doing so hot here doesn't mean AC is stronger.

From: KamikazePotato | #117
DMC3 is also leaps and bounds better than DMC, and it's probably still weaker. Hype>fanfare, unfortunately.


Not a good comparison at all. AC2 was massively hyped. DMC3 was not, because DMC2 was panned.


From: PartOfYourWorld | #167
Uncharted is ****ed, lmao


Ahahaha. Oh geez are you kidding me? That pic advantage is absolutely ridiculous. Hilarious. I actually laughed out loud when I saw that ****.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/19/2010 7:48:58 PM | message detail
Is this based on anything? Because that's not what I would expect at all.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722
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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 7:49:28 PM | message detail
AC1 sold like twice as much. you made the DMC2->3 comparison but AC2 suffers from the same thing, just on a lesser level.

Batman over AC2 is based on 2009 GOTY.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/19/2010 7:52:47 PM | message detail
Not exactly, people would take DMC3 > DMC2 just like they would take ACII > AC and ME2 > ME.
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transients | Posted 11/19/2010 7:53:56 PM | message detail
oh I agree. AC1 is by far the most flawed of the AC games though.

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?search=assassin%27s+creed&numrev=3&site=
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