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695924 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:07:55 AM | message detail

From: kaiasian | #448
I'm casual on this, but how in the world did Phoenix Wright lose the Mario Kart Wii?


The fact that you have to ask that means you like PW. Which means you are in your own little world. That is explanation enough :(
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:08:06 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #445
Uncharted 2 being weaker than SMS is not clear at all. Being a Mario game is not worth that much, as we saw with NSMB Wii, and losing to Halo 3 isn't much of an accomplishment either. I don't expect UC2 to end up very far below Halo 1.


Then we'll have to wait and see. UC2 is a PS3-exclusive action game that hasn't fully established itself on this site compared to other action games like God of War and Assassin's Creed. Couple that with how terrible 2009 games have been doing and you have all the ingredients for failure.

All SMS has is the Mario name, but that's probably all it needs.
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lightsout06 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:08:43 AM | message detail
As for the semi finals and final i have
Melee > FO3
FFX > GSC

FFX > Melee
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695924 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:09:04 AM | message detail
UC2 will be lucky if it can get past SF4, let alone getting past Halo 1.
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kaiasian | Posted 11/20/2010 10:09:33 AM | message detail
So Mario Kart Wii is just too well known for PW. :/

And I guess same for The World Ends With You? I had that going to Round 3.
Advokaiser | Posted 11/20/2010 10:10:45 AM | message detail
A toss-up match, by its very definition, is a match where the lack of information about one, or both, of the games in question leads to an inconclusive matchup where either game could come out the victor, dependent on different variables. SMS/Halo 3 falls under this description, and just because you got the match right doesn't make it otherwise.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3493

So coming close to Fallout 3 and Portal doesn't say anything? We're talking about the weakest mainline Mario game here!

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The_Ps2_Devil | Posted 11/20/2010 10:12:13 AM | message detail

From: 695924 | #449
MGS4 winning it all. Damn and I thought I was crazy for having MGS4>GSC


Could always have a Snake 2008 character battle run for MGS 4 :) I know it probably won't win but that's alright, I don't regret the pick
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/20/2010 10:12:39 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #450
Phoenix Wright was just too niche a game to beat the Mario Kart name.


Yet it still got 46-47%....shows how weak MKWii really is...i reckon if PW was localised during the GBA era it would have teared Mario a new one.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/20/2010 10:20:19 AM | message detail
I thought Fallout 3, Uncharted 2 and Batman Arkham Asylum had about the same strength... >_>

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Xuxon | Posted 11/20/2010 10:23:47 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #444


hah, even with the ridiculous casual wow support and the board calling the match debatable, we still did better on WoW vs AC? i'm surprised. though i think if you took out the zero/fav brackets that one might squeak over to the casual side.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/20/2010 10:25:27 AM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #460
I thought Fallout 3, Uncharted 2 and Batman Arkham Asylum had about the same strength... >_>


uncharted and batman probably are. Batman was robbed last year by Dragon age.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:25:51 AM | message detail
Well we barely won that one plus no one really talked about the upset until after the bracket was locked, it was mostly PM > WoW.
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:26:05 AM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #460
I thought Fallout 3, Uncharted 2 and Batman Arkham Asylum had about the same strength... >_>


FO3 is pretty much heads and shoulders above the other two, I'd say.
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/20/2010 10:27:34 AM | message detail

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3493

So coming close to Fallout 3 and Portal doesn't say anything? We're talking about the weakest mainline Mario game here!


No, it doesn't. By their very nature, 4-way matches significantly reduce anti-voting. Also, that poll is a SFF match from hell. It's pretty impossible to glean any real information from that match in a bubble.
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creativename | Posted 11/20/2010 10:28:57 AM | message detail
When Oblivion faces Wind Waker, we *HAVE* to get Link on the match pic for Oblivion somehow. It would be an atrocity against all the is right if this does not happen.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/20/2010 10:29:29 AM | message detail
When Oblivion faces Wind Waker, we *HAVE* to get Link on the match pic for Oblivion somehow

...huh?
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The Mana Sword | Posted 11/20/2010 10:31:34 AM | message detail
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/20/2010 10:32:21 AM | message detail
Uh, isn't that just a user mod? I doubt that would be allowed
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/20/2010 10:35:23 AM | message detail
So is anyone here thinking TTYD could beat Oblivion?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4050
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4131
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4132

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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:35:33 AM | message detail
No, it doesn't. By their very nature, 4-way matches significantly reduce anti-voting. Also, that poll is a SFF match from hell. It's pretty impossible to glean any real information from that match in a bubble.

This isn't necessarily true. It depends on how "smart" the anti-voters are. For example, in a match like FFVII/OOT/LTTP/FFX, the FFVII anti-voters would not split their votes between the other 3 games- instead, if they're smart, they'll throw all their votes to OOT, which would actually amplify the anti-voting effect.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/20/2010 10:37:00 AM | message detail
sox, I doubt the average voter will think about all of that when making their choice. They'll just see their favorite game and vote for it
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/20/2010 10:41:49 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #470
So is anyone here thinking TTYD could beat Oblivion?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4050
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4131
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4132


could, i don't think it will, you won't get as much antivoting for oblivion like you did with Gears and PM didn't even get 60% on gears. If it wins it will be one of those 1-2% differences but i still think people are criminally underrating fighters in this contest. Oblivion is still favourite to go through.
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creativename | Posted 11/20/2010 10:41:50 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #385
I think it's pretty much time to throw in the towel on Oblivion > Wind Waker, not really because of this match, but because of Wind Waker's show.


I had Oblivion>WW in my bracket because although I favored WW neutrally, I thought Oblivion was a great upset pick because no one was going with it, and I thought there was a high chance of it happening. But, I was stupidly unaware of WW being stuck with Melee last contest, I didn't realize this until a couple days before WW's match. After realizing that I don't give Oblivion much chance there anymore.
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Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 11/20/2010 10:43:28 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #471
No, it doesn't. By their very nature, 4-way matches significantly reduce anti-voting. Also, that poll is a SFF match from hell. It's pretty impossible to glean any real information from that match in a bubble.

This isn't necessarily true. It depends on how "smart" the anti-voters are. For example, in a match like FFVII/OOT/LTTP/FFX, the FFVII anti-voters would not split their votes between the other 3 games- instead, if they're smart, they'll throw all their votes to OOT, which would actually amplify the anti-voting effect.




It still reduces anti voting because you have more games in the poll. Not all anti-voters are going to be "smart"

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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:43:50 AM | message detail
You underestimate the intelligence of the Zelda/Nintendo/FFVII hate fanbase. This is war, and they know when to fight and when to fall in line. But with something like the match Halo was in, it probably wouldn't happen that way, yeah. FFVII vs. OOT in the finals is different, and more likely to have anti-voters think, and all reach the same conclusion.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:46:24 AM | message detail
It still reduces anti voting because you have more games in the poll. Not all anti-voters are going to be "smart"

No, but generally anti-voters will be "smarter" than normal voters. The reason is that anti-voters are by definition not just voting for their favorite.....they're actively voting for a game to lose.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/20/2010 10:47:37 AM | message detail
are you really saying people that anti vote mainstream stuff to be elitist are smarter than the normal voter? really?

"halo sux even tho i never played it, i just hate all fps!! -anti votes-"

Yeah, that sounds like a smart voter to me.
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creativename | Posted 11/20/2010 10:48:07 AM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #426
Uncharted 2 may end up to be weaker than SMS anyways.

lol


I have little doubt that UC2 will be weaker than Sunshine. I had UC2 to the division finals, albeit extremely hesitantly, simply because I thought it's competition would flop worse. Now I believe UC2 will flop harder than its competition. I never had any real faith in UC2 to begin with, and am not entirely sure why so many did have confidence in it.

Halo will dismiss UC2 without breaking a sweat, if UC2 can even get past SF4 (which isn't close to a lock).
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:55:59 AM | message detail
are you really saying people that anti vote mainstream stuff to be elitist are smarter than the normal voter? really?

They're not more intelligent, but they do care more about the contest. Hence, they tend to vote at the beginning of the match, and they are more likely to think about what they're vote is going to do.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2010 10:57:29 AM | message detail
And it doesn't apply to Halo nearly as much as FFVII, but if it were something like OOT/WW/Halo/Link's Crossbow Training, don't be surprised to see WW murder the early vote and resist SFF from OOT far far far better than usual.
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creativename | Posted 11/20/2010 11:04:03 AM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #467
When Oblivion faces Wind Waker, we *HAVE* to get Link on the match pic for Oblivion somehow

...huh?


...ergh.

OK I am *heavily* drugged up right now and confused SCII with Oblivion!

nevermind and ignore me

i is dumb
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/20/2010 1:11:28 PM | message detail
Less than 30% of brackets had Mario winning, huh? Nice. :D

Really not impressed by Oblivion here. I doubt Paper Mario will threaten it or anything, but nonetheless, I'm expecting Wind Waker to totally paste it.

UC2 will be lucky if it can get past SF4, let alone getting past Halo 1.

Halo: CE should probably be the favorite at this point, but man, there's some serious Street Fighter overestimation going on here. The upset is possible, but... SFIV barely defeated a 3-D Sonic. With that in mind, I just can't see it beating UC2 all of the sudden - frankly, I'm not even convinced SFIV or SA2 could defeat The Legend of Dragoon.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/20/2010 1:12:40 PM | message detail
frankly, I'm not even convinced SFIV or SA2 could defeat The Legend of Dragoon.

You talk about overestimation and counter it with severe underestimation!!
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/20/2010 1:17:10 PM | message detail
Less than 30% of brackets had Mario winning, huh? Nice. :D

Stuff like this is why people need to never be like "oh lol the stats topic, lol b8 the casuals own you"

because it's so untrue.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/20/2010 1:26:47 PM | message detail
frankly, I'm not even convinced SFIV or SA2 could defeat The Legend of Dragoon.

You talk about overestimation and counter it with severe underestimation!!



I'm not convinced either... but maybe SFIV > LoD > SA2.

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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/20/2010 1:26:49 PM | message detail
You talk about overestimation and counter it with severe underestimation!!

Dragoon doesn't look as impressive now as it did pre-contest, but it was still arguably the star of the vote-ins; and of course, this is a very JRPG-centric site. Not too difficult to see it beating SFIV and a 3-D Sonic, y'know? It definitely wouldn't be a lock by any means, but I'd totally take that upset. Especially if it was a night match.

Stuff like this is why people need to never be like "oh lol the stats topic, lol b8 the casuals own you"

because it's so untrue.


THIS. Gotta love those people who can't stop dissing Board 8 early in the first round, and then start whining like crazy when WoW and Call of Duty fail to make it very far.

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/20/2010 1:39:00 PM | message detail

From: Samurai7 | #399
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/20/2010 1:44:03 PM | message detail
I don't remember seeing casuals attack Board 8 for making bad picks, actually. It's usually Board 8 users who do that, and say we're being outsmarted by the casuals.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/20/2010 1:49:44 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #489
I don't remember seeing casuals attack Board 8 for making bad picks, actually. It's usually Board 8 users who do that, and say we're being outsmarted by the casuals.


that's what I meant.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/20/2010 12:18:30 PM | message detail
Top 50 Brackets

Brawl seems to be the heavy favourite, but I think we know why.


Many of the Brawl brackets are my accounts, actually. I'm sure they will fall off the leaderboard eventually.
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vcharon | Posted 11/20/2010 2:10:20 PM | message detail
SC2 should have gotten better bracket placement and a better seed. Quite a great game.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/20/2010 2:11:26 PM | message detail
SCII as the 15 vs. SotC could have been nice.

but whatevs
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/20/2010 3:23:46 PM | message detail
aww yeah RATE THE PICS

Can't wait for Uncharted 2's day! Best picture ever.

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Gooper Blooper | Posted 11/20/2010 3:25:10 PM | message detail
Play Paper Mario TTYD.
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DarkFalconX | Posted 11/20/2010 3:26:20 PM | message detail
Play whatever the f*** you want.
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vcharon | Posted 11/20/2010 3:26:40 PM | message detail
WoW
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