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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/18/2010 11:25:45 AM | message detail
Under 72 now? I'll wait for the ASV, but this is a slight underperformance relative to my expectations. It might not mean much for later matches, but this is the least impressive first round Pokemon has had in several years.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2010 11:26:26 AM | message detail
Majora's Mask only got 83% due to SFF. It would have done worse than FFX did against Viewtiful Joe.
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Haste_2 | Posted 11/18/2010 11:28:25 AM | message detail
Zelda: MM vs. Wii Sports was a match involving similar fanbases, though. (maybe not like Zelda vs. Mario, but...) Also, Wii Sports is probably weaker than VJ, anyway, despite that one poll's results.

Speaking of picture advantages (since GSC apparently will do better in future rounds; I agree it will help somewhat), let's discuss Kingdom Hearts vs. Kingdom Hearts II. All I can say is... how will KH2 -not- have a huge pic advantage? Think about it. And, since I believe many voters will not have a strong preference between KH1 and 2, I think the picture could make a big difference there.

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/18/2010 11:29:09 AM | message detail
Would there really be that much SFF though?

We've all played Wii Sports. It has the most general audience possible for a game. I don't really think it's a traditional Nintendo entry purely because it appeals to people who aren't part of Nintendo's regular audience.

Also this is supposed to be an SFF match right now but look what's happening!
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2010 11:29:57 AM | message detail
And if GSC can't end up getting the tripling, I'd call is a little disappointing too- but not as much as FFX's showing against Viewtiful Joe. I'm actually really surprised that 30% of gurus went with Majora's Mask- I'm not really afraid of that match at all.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/18/2010 11:29:59 AM | message detail
Wow, never even thought of that. Sora looks a lot cooler in KHII. Most of those non-Disney guys do.
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/18/2010 11:33:34 AM | message detail
I'm actually really surprised that 30% of gurus went with Majora's Mask- I'm not really afraid of that match at all.

Yeah, I was expecting Majora's Mask to be the clear favorite. But hey, they're gurus!

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/18/2010 11:33:35 AM | message detail
Wow, never even thought of that. Sora looks a lot cooler in KHII. Most of those non-Disney guys do.

Not to mention Kairi now has TJF over her KH1 version, too!
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Big Bob | Posted 11/18/2010 11:35:38 AM | message detail
I'm pretty sure the people who voted for Wii Sports in the vote-in poll were only doing so ironically.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/18/2010 11:38:38 AM | message detail

From: Big Bob | #309
I'm pretty sure the people who voted for Wii Sports in the vote-in poll were only doing so ironically.


Wii Sports will never be THAT weak because it's the game everyone has played. It'd have a good chance against a lot of games here for that reason. I mean it's weak. But its sheer playrate stops it from being THAT weak.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/18/2010 11:40:32 AM | message detail
Wii Sports will never be THAT weak because it's the game everyone has played. It'd have a good chance against a lot of games here for that reason. I mean it's weak. But its sheer playrate stops it from being THAT weak.

like everyone has played the Sims (its got 120 million sales from somewhere), but that didn't stop it from being weak fodder. Playrates are overrated
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TRE Public Account | Posted 11/18/2010 11:41:29 AM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
56------1------------100.00
55------17----------41.18
54------84----------53.57
53------205--------37.07
52------453--------48.34
51------835--------48.26
50------1358------45.80
49------1716------50.70
48------2035------55.38
47------2306------59.32
46------2388------64.03
45------2444------67.84
44------2421------67.37
43------2416------70.74
42------2215------71.56
41------2013------69.35
40------1792------71.82
39------1487------74.92
38------1224------74.18
37------956--------71.97
36------750--------75.07
35------545--------70.09
34------407--------69.29
33------301--------67.77
32------235--------60.85
31------130--------65.38
30------118--------66.95
29------85----------70.59
28------54----------74.07
27------31----------58.06
26------35----------60.00
25------14----------92.86
24------20----------65.00
23------14----------85.71
22------10----------80.00
21------7------------85.71
20------14----------57.14
19------4------------75.00
18------6------------50.00
17------8------------87.50
16------6------------83.33
15------6------------83.33
14------6------------83.33
13------9------------66.67
12------11----------45.45
11------9------------55.56
10------14----------50.00
9--------15----------73.33
8--------10----------20.00
7--------9------------33.33
6--------3------------0.00
5--------4------------0.00
4--------3------------0.00
3--------2------------0.00
2--------9------------0.00
1--------22----------0.00
0--------22----------4.55

The top performers actually do worse than the lower tiers. I didn't really expect that. We lose more than half of the remaining -3, -5, -6, -7 and -8 brackets. The -4s manage to just barely stay above 50. As you go down, the prediction percentage actually rises into the 70s before fading away. The Gurus heavily favored Mario Kart Wii winning with 83.14% support. The match was reasonably close so that could have been a disaster.

17 people fell off the Top 50. grayfox9996, Gandoclaus, clayallen17, EdmundExley, Hyper_Sonic_987, SpeLLz4, DocJustice, theawesomestevr, thesupermuffin, fount_of_evil, Snuffy_Mccrack, Patz18, Tien25, Winney1907, Lazzy128, 7point9 and greentoadie05 did not have Mario Kart Wii beating Phoenix Wright.

10 people got the match wrong but survived. warriorsallofit, MayorQuimby2121, Gambone, Dr_Naysay, mmx724, Teh_Ronin, carolinafan92, DagothUrReturns, crono1009 and hellpunch11 also did not have Mario Kart Wii beating Phoenix Wright.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/18/2010 12:07:22 PM | message detail
and Pokemon has its biggest update of the entire match right after 3 o'clock hits

just like clockwork
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/18/2010 12:11:49 PM | message detail

From: methedemon | #297
I feel a lot better about FFX making it to the finals. My biggest fear was Pokemon turning out to be a monster.


And it could still be a monster. If G/S/C makes it to the semi-finals against FFX, it could be even stronger than it is now.
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kinsho3 | Posted 11/18/2010 12:14:14 PM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #308
Not to mention Kairi now has TJF over her KH1 version, too!


Well, that seals it. This is no longer a debated match.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/18/2010 12:22:19 PM | message detail
CLOCKWORK

... We used to say that, right?
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transients | Posted 11/18/2010 12:29:44 PM | message detail
MGS3/4 is so screwed
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2010 12:31:18 PM | message detail
1v1. Link only. 24-hour polls.

The Great GameFAQs Character Battle IX ~ Summer 2011
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/18/2010 12:32:15 PM | message detail
MGS3/4 is so screwed

yeah, seriously. AW should have a better asv then they do, and GSC is just cutting through it like butter right now. Imagine MGS3/4 in the ASV versus Pokemon
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2010 12:34:49 PM | message detail
Our contestants:

Zelda 1/2 Link
LTTP Link
LA Link? (think this might be the same as LTTP Link or one of the others, not sure)
OOT Adult Link
OOT Young Link
WW Link
TP Link
CD-I Link
Toon Link
Fierce Deity Link
Oracle Link
SSB Link
SSBM Link
SSBB Link
GameFAQs Link
SMRPG Link
Spinoff (Link's Crossbow Training, etc) Link

Bonus Match: Winner vs. Cloud Strife
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/18/2010 12:35:42 PM | message detail
Pokemon's clearly lost a step since the last Character Battle, but all in all, this performance is all right.

I've noticed a trend, though:

-Mother 3 did way better than expected against Devil May Cry 3.
-Metroid Fusion stood up to Platinum.
-Pokemon R/S/E toppled GTA4.
-Golden Sun thrashed Ratchet, and should probably be the favorite versus San Andreas.
-Fire Emblem did better against Tony Hawk than many expected.
-And finally, Advance Wars is doing surprisingly well today.

Every single GBA game has surpassed expectations; occasionally by a large margin. Forget Pokefear, Brawlfear, etc. - it's time to brace ourselves for GBAFEAR!

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Advance Wars finally made a contest! Sweetness.
VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/18/2010 12:35:58 PM | message detail
SMRPG Link

Wait what? I don't remember Link in that. Where was he?
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 11/18/2010 12:36:05 PM | message detail
isnt

SSB = SSBM = OOT Adult

and

SSBB = TP
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 11/18/2010 12:36:26 PM | message detail

From: VaultBoyAlbion | #322
SMRPG Link

Wait what? I don't remember Link in that. Where was he?


sleeping in one of those beds or something

I think there's only a small timeframe when you can see him though
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/18/2010 12:52:52 PM | message detail

From: VaultBoyAlbion | #322
SMRPG Link

Wait what? I don't remember Link in that. Where was he?


http://www.cubed3.com/staff/jesusraz/mrpg21a.jpg
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/18/2010 1:03:38 PM | message detail
Fierce Deity Link FTW!!

SSBB / TP Link is also a great contestant. It's the way I think Link should have been in the first place.

LttP Link is probably the worst, he looks the youngest (around 5 years old), his characterization depth is non-existent (therefore non-believable) he has green pajamas 3/4 of the game, and... well... he has pink hair.

OoT Adult Link seems like a 14-year-old bad-ass young man, and he looks great and handsome as well, but it has a very high-pitched voice IMO for him to be an 'adult'.


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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/18/2010 1:04:56 PM | message detail
OoT Adult Link seems like a 14-year-old bad-ass young man, and he looks great and handsome as well, but it has a very high-pitched voice IMO for him to be an 'adult'.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs27/f/2008/087/6/5/Super_Saiyan_2_Goku_by_XXXSpider_manXXX.jpg
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Advokaiser | Posted 11/18/2010 1:09:19 PM | message detail
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pjbasis | Posted 11/18/2010 1:13:15 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #320
Zelda 1/2 Link
LTTP Link
LA Link? (think this might be the same as LTTP Link or one of the others, not sure)
OOT Adult Link
OOT Young Link
WW Link
TP Link
CD-I Link
Toon Link
Fierce Deity Link
Oracle Link
SSB Link
SSBM Link
SSBB Link
GameFAQs Link
SMRPG Link
Spinoff (Link's Crossbow Training, etc) Link


Don't forget SCII Link!
Advokaiser | Posted 11/18/2010 1:15:59 PM | message detail
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Okay maybe I shut up now... o_O

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/18/2010 1:45:42 PM | message detail
Heh, loving this result. I'd consider Advance Wars/Wii Sports to be relatively close, and Pokemon has a lot more reason to SFF Advance Wars than Majora does to SFF Wii Sports.

MM to the semis!
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/18/2010 1:49:48 PM | message detail
red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2010 3:31:18 PM | message detail
1v1. Link only. 24-hour polls.

The Great GameFAQs Character Battle IX ~ Summer 2011


As for when the next Character Battle will happen, I doubt it will be in Winter 2011 because that requires nominations to be opened up before this contest even ends. Spring 2011 seems very unlikely. Summer 2011 is possible, but I would not want a summer contest because it would take away the ASV. So Fall 2011 seems to be the best possible time for the next contest.
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pjbasis | Posted 11/18/2010 1:50:14 PM | message detail
Why would advance wars be similar to wii sports?

I mean first every's going "Wii hate Wii hate" and now advance wars is as fodderific as Wii Sports?

Not buying it.
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/18/2010 2:06:52 PM | message detail
Maybe one day I'll stop being surprised by the Pokemon ASV.

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abdou | Posted 11/18/2010 2:09:17 PM | message detail
Pokemon won't hit 75% even with monstrous ASV

its so lucky this is a day match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/18/2010 2:09:51 PM | message detail
This is mildly underwhelming, but RE5 and likely GoW2 should justify Metroid Fusion doing so well on DPP and RSE beating GTA4 was impressive to me. None of Nintendo's other major titles have disappointed here, either, so this isn't too pressing of a matter right now. LoZ:MM/CC and LoZ:WW's first two matches will tell us a whole lot more than anything we've seen for them yet...plus comparing GSC/MKW to SSBB/MKDS will tell us more than today is. AW's bound to be pretty weak, but it's still new.


From: TheCodeisBosco | #321
I've noticed a trend, though:

-Mother 3 did way better than expected against Devil May Cry 3.
-Metroid Fusion stood up to Platinum.
-Pokemon R/S/E toppled GTA4.
-Golden Sun thrashed Ratchet, and should probably be the favorite versus San Andreas.
-Fire Emblem did better against Tony Hawk than many expected.
-And finally, Advance Wars is doing surprisingly well today.

Every single GBA game has surpassed expectations; occasionally by a large margin. Forget Pokefear, Brawlfear, etc. - it's time to brace ourselves for GBAFEAR!


Good point -- I didn't realize they were all GBA-games. It's also interesting that DS-games haven't done so well either, so...maybe with the rise of Pokemon here came along the rise of handheld-games they played while Pokemon was in its biggest boom. I don't think it lines up precisely year-wise, but there's probably something there.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/18/2010 2:12:13 PM | message detail
I'd definitely take Advance Wars over Wii Sports, personally. If you ask me, it'd be an Ulti-style blowout, at the very least - most Wii games haven't been doing well, while every GBA game has looked positively golden. Plus, Advance Wars actually has a decent-sized fanbase; as far as Nintendo series go, it should at least be a notch above Animal Crossing and its ilk.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/18/2010 2:15:12 PM | message detail
I'm honestly not sure Wii Sports beats anything in the bracket. Name one game people wouldn't anti-vote over Wii Sports on principle alone. Well, besides No Mercy and Tony Hawk.

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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/18/2010 2:19:24 PM | message detail
I'd absolutely take Tony Hawk over Wii Sports. Probably not No Mercy, though.

I guess Wii Sports could have a chance against Guitar Hero II and Jet Grind Radio, as well. Maybe TimeSplitters 2, also.

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/18/2010 2:20:07 PM | message detail
Wii Sports would beat a few other games, but it's definitely weak-sauce. Its play-rate's too high; it, Tetris, Sims, Pac-Man...they can all beat a few games (and yes, I know they're not all the same strength). It's also not like it's the WoW of motion-gaming, and people don't really take their anger on a system out on its games often. Halo is an exception, but it's still decent here and was hated for more reasons than just the Xbox.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/18/2010 2:43:14 PM | message detail
lol at anyone trying to downplay this match. The spread betting was 75% and GSC already has 73%, on a game that we have no information on.

I'm surprised about the support for MM, people in this topic have such a hard on for that game for whatever reason. It's like arguing Ganondorf > Sonic after watching Sonic win last contest.
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voltch | Posted 11/18/2010 2:44:49 PM | message detail
Crystal will embarass MM, book it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/18/2010 2:57:42 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm going to lose a bit of money in spread betting as GSC's not going to reach 75%. I probably shouldn't have bet anyway, as my Oracle was 75% exactly. On the bright side, with TRE's million+ bet on GSC, I'll actually be gaining ground on him.
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transients | Posted 11/18/2010 3:02:40 PM | message detail
you guys' expectations were too high. it's outdoing my expectations here!

Pokemon never gonna blast something out of the water.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 11/18/2010 3:18:27 PM | message detail

From: transients | Posted: 11/18/2010 6:02:40 PM | #344
you guys' expectations were too high. it's outdoing my expectations here!

Pokemon never gonna blast something out of the water.


Didn't Pikachu crush fodder in the last character battle on R1?
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transients | Posted 11/18/2010 3:21:45 PM | message detail
75%. it's about as good as this one.
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From: transients | Posted: 11/18/2010 6:21:45 PM | #346
75%. it's about as good as this one.


If anything it's probably a good barometer of GSC, actually, now that I think about it. From all we've seen, Pikachu should be (roughly) equal to GSC powerwise, shouldn't he? If so we can use him as a base to work from and guess how GSC's done...which is alright in this case.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/18/2010 5:48:41 PM | message detail
You really shouldn't compare characters to games!

Of course MGS2 got 70% on Banjo-Tooie so if Banjo-Tooie=Banjo and GSC=Pikachu, GSC is only slightly stronger than MGS2.

However that's a really bad comparison anyway. In addition to the first sentence above, Pikachu may well have SFF'd Banjo.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/18/2010 6:16:37 PM | message detail
On the bright side, with TRE's million+ bet on GSC, I'll actually be gaining ground on him.

For now at least. =D
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/18/2010 6:18:31 PM | message detail
Pikachu should be (roughly) equal to GSC powerwise, shouldn't he?

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