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abdou | Posted 11/17/2010 12:24:33 PM | message detail
I thought DQ would be doing better in Asia too , since its pretty big there. Guess not many Asian votes come from Japan.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/17/2010 12:25:13 PM | message detail
Wind Waker/Oblivion is quite different from Megaman/Mario- there's no SFF in this one.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/17/2010 12:26:17 PM | message detail
Chrono Cross is actually winning in Japan according to the map- though not, of course, the UK, which hates Chrono evidently.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/17/2010 12:32:16 PM | message detail
Random factoid: Majora's Mask just drew the most votes in a 12-hour night match (KotOR/DMC was 13 hours) since FFX. Apart from a few of the other 1-seeds, only Halo 3/Sunshine has outdrawn MM, and only Majora had a same-company opponent.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/17/2010 1:29:35 PM | message detail
Random factoid: Majora's Mask just drew the most votes in a 12-hour night match (KotOR/DMC was 13 hours) since FFX. Apart from a few of the other 1-seeds, only Halo 3/Sunshine has outdrawn MM, and only Majora had a same-company opponent.

Actually, the following matches all got more votes than Majora's Mask/Wii Sports:

Halo 3/Super Mario Sunshine
Final Fantasy X/Viewtiful Joe
Metroid Prime/Star Ocean
Fallout 3/inFamous

I should know this stuff, because I'm keeping track of it. KOTOR/DMC also beat out the last match in votes, but that's a 13 hour match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/17/2010 1:36:35 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #404
Random factoid: Majora's Mask just drew the most votes in a 12-hour night match (KotOR/DMC was 13 hours) since FFX. Apart from a few of the other 1-seeds, only Halo 3/Sunshine has outdrawn MM, and only Majora had a same-company opponent.


From: -LusterSoldier- | #405
Halo 3/Super Mario Sunshine
Final Fantasy X/Viewtiful Joe
Metroid Prime/Star Ocean
Fallout 3/inFamous


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UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/17/2010 1:56:41 PM | message detail
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creativename | Posted 11/17/2010 2:26:06 PM | message detail
Wait a minute. How in the world did MGS4 get worked during the night vote by AC?? I thought the MGS series was a night series and AC a day one? That makes no sense to me.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/17/2010 2:27:00 PM | message detail
Wait a minute. How in the world did MGS4 get worked during the night vote by AC?? I thought the MGS series was a night series and AC a day one? That makes no sense to me.

Europe made games typically do well at night
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/17/2010 2:28:56 PM | message detail
Oh wait my bad, it was Ubisoft Montrael (sp), so it was NA made.. still published by a French company, though
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2010 2:34:42 PM | message detail
Wait a minute. How in the world did MGS4 get worked during the night vote by AC?? I thought the MGS series was a night series and AC a day one? That makes no sense to me.

Imagine if it was a day match now.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/17/2010 2:36:20 PM | message detail
While LoZ:MM had a great blow-out with Wii Sports only getting 16.6%...

1) ...LoZ:TP kept Wii Sports to 10.62%. Through SFF-beatdowns on LoZ:TP, LoZ:MM barely breaks 39% on LoZ:TP.
2) ...SSBB kept MK:DS to 16.74%. MK:DS did significantly better than WS in both a tougher vote-in despite two other Nintendo-games and the GotY-polls (though WS didn't get a fair shake in the Wii-GotY).
3) ...SSBM kept GH2 to 12.84%. WS barely beat GH2 in the vote-ins, yet LoZ:MM only gets 39.82% on SSBM despite more SFF in LoZ:MM's favor (if you believe SSBM SFF'D GH2).

Granted, LoZ:MM was never supposed to be on the level of the SSB-games or LoZ:TP, and SFF-comparisons aren't good comparisons either. That said, since this is all we have right now, it's worth saying I'd still prefer GS's numbers from last year against MGS and RBY over this...ignoring GS getting close to LoZ:MM despite RBY anyway. Add Crystal and the HG/SS-remakes since then, and I feel plenty fine about GSC right now. Pokemon's weakest generations in DPP and RSE have done well enough one-on-one, too, so that's hardly a fear to reasonably expect anymore.


Now let's actually see GSC in action to see if it lives up to its own hype...and see LoZ:MM against CC and LoZ:WW against GoW2/AC2 so we can get some more legit material to analyze this tier for the LoZ-series instead of this WS-malarkey.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/17/2010 2:38:24 PM | message detail
The big thing about AC though is that its got one of the worst board votes of anything, for whatever reason. So its got no where to go but up, even during a night match.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/17/2010 2:43:13 PM | message detail
I would say AC's bad board vote, combined with MGS4's usually good board vote, is what caused MGS4 to look so 'bad' overnight.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/17/2010 2:45:57 PM | message detail
I'd think MGS4 doing 2% worse in Europe than the worldwide average would have influenced its poor night vote more than the board vote...

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/17/2010 2:47:41 PM | message detail
Well AC is just really strong in Euro-

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3745&region=EUR

...well then who knows.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2010 2:52:09 PM | message detail
Doing well in Europe doesn't mean you have a great night vote (though it does help a lot), remember regions go through shifts as well.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/17/2010 2:57:38 PM | message detail
Europe made games typically do well at night

Yeah, MGS3 lost the night vote to Timesplitters 2 because that game was made by a UK-based developer and published by Eidos Interactive (also based in the UK). Funny result here:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4117&region=GB
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Greyfeld | Posted 11/17/2010 4:23:00 PM | message detail
So, what's the word on tonight's match? Phoenix Wright vs. Mario Kart Wii.
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AxemPink | Posted 11/17/2010 4:30:45 PM | message detail
Hard to see Mario Kart Wii losing this one.
pjbasis | Posted 11/17/2010 4:36:11 PM | message detail
That TJF.
Kid is fine.
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/17/2010 4:41:51 PM | message detail
I don't know why people think it'll be such an easy win. Every non Zelda/Smash bros wii game sucks ass. And Phoenix Wright should be able to do better in a night match, and especially get a good lead after the power hour. Should be a good match.
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transients | Posted 11/17/2010 4:43:11 PM | message detail
if Mario Kart ever takes a lead, it is ovah.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2010 4:50:55 PM | message detail
Taking a look at the match picture the two characters look pretty similar.


I don't know why people think it'll be such an easy win. Every non Zelda/Smash bros wii game sucks ass. And Phoenix Wright should be able to do better in a night match, and especially get a good lead after the power hour. Should be a good match.

Not sure what you expected from Wii Sports, Super Mario Galaxy did what was expected and NSMBW was obviously going to be weak (not to mention that MvC2 was going to have decent strength).

PW was terribly weak last contest, MKWii would really have to drop the ball.
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Blairville | Posted 11/17/2010 4:52:17 PM | message detail
FFIX got 74% on one of the PWs, I no way is MKWii that much weaker.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2010 4:53:40 PM | message detail
To be fair PW would have no problem on PW3.
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Blairville | Posted 11/17/2010 4:54:45 PM | message detail
I no way

huh?

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/17/2010 4:55:42 PM | message detail
The thing I'm thinking is that I'd take NSMB Wii over mario Kart (Mainline mario games > side mario games) and I'd consider MvC2 about equal to PW. Am I wrong in thinking these things?
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WhiteLens | Posted 11/17/2010 4:57:10 PM | message detail
Oh no, MvC2 would destroy PW.
At least MvC2 has a good deal of mainstream appeal.
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Haste_2 | Posted 11/17/2010 4:59:27 PM | message detail
FF9 got 75% of the vote on PW:T&T. That would mean like, what, 70% on the first PW? Seems logical enough. The 2009 x-stats would suggest something close to that, too, I believe.

If PW beats MK Wii, then I guess that means FF9 gets like 70% on MK Wii.... and then note the fact that FF9 and MK64 are very close to each other... at least, when inferring from their matches. FF9 faced OoT and MK64 faced FF7, and both also had a weaker game leeching them. So, they should be pretty close to each other in strength. So, if you say FF9 gets 70% on MK Wii, that means MK64 would get 70% on MK Wii -before- SFF... so, with SFF, like, 80%!

I'm liking MK Wii's chances!

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/17/2010 5:01:47 PM | message detail
Oh no, MvC2 would destroy PW.
At least MvC2 has a good deal of mainstream appeal.


How strong can a 10 year old fighting game made popular mainly through Dreamcast really be? I don't see any reason to not consider that PW has a chance to beat it.
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WhiteLens | Posted 11/17/2010 5:10:50 PM | message detail
This may seem hard to believe, but a lot of MvC2's strength probably came from the arcade when they weren't dead 10 years ago.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/17/2010 5:31:43 PM | message detail
Like other fighting classics such as SF2 and MK2? Because they're pretty weak too AND had considerably stronger console presences. Then again, they're also significantly older, but I still don't know how much that matters for this comparison.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/17/2010 5:39:15 PM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #428
The thing I'm thinking is that I'd take NSMB Wii over mario Kart (Mainline mario games > side mario games)


I disagree. Mario's mainline games are not guaranteed to be stronger than his side games. I'd easily take Super Mario Kart - which was about equal to Super Metroid - over several Mario platformers, including Galaxy and Sunshine. Mario Kart Wii's monstrous sales won't hurt, but it's also advantaged by hitting stores when the Wii was still viewed favorably. Wii took an absolute hammering between its release and now because MKWii was the last big game that console saw in like two years.

Bottom line: I'd take Mario Kart Wii over NSMBWii.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/17/2010 5:41:31 PM | message detail
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Phoenix made a semi-decent run at this, and I'd welcome it because LOL Wii.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2010 5:43:48 PM | message detail
The thing I'm thinking is that I'd take NSMB Wii over mario Kart (Mainline mario games > side mario games) and I'd consider MvC2 about equal to PW. Am I wrong in thinking these things?

Yes to both.

For Mario you have to remember that by 2009 GameFAQs had turned its back on the Wii, not to mention that Mario Kart Wii was huge on its own.

PW was quite weak last contest while MvC2 had reason to have strength, plus people are getting hyped for MvC3.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/17/2010 5:44:39 PM | message detail
The problem with PW winning is that it depends on MKWii being weak a ton more than it depends on PW being decent. I could easily see MKWii being bad, but there's an even better chance that it's not that bad.

Uh I mean GO GO WRIGHTO

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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/17/2010 6:44:35 PM | message detail
For those interested, I've updated the Stats Topic archive up to the end of part 947.
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AxemPink | Posted 11/17/2010 6:54:59 PM | message detail
How strong can a 10 year old fighting game made popular mainly through Dreamcast really be? I don't see any reason to not consider that PW has a chance to beat it.

...Dude, are you serious?
HaRRicH | Posted 11/17/2010 6:57:25 PM | message detail
SMK > SMG? Don't think I could take that, but MK64 would be whipping some ass in that scenario and SMRPG would too.

Either way, it's hard to even treat NSMBW as a main-line game. Technically, I'd probably count it as one, but that means little for its strength; it's got a less significant place in the Mario-fanbase and it feels like Mario's trying to get another side-series with the "New"-brand. It's funny though...it' might outsell the two Galaxy-games despite them being two of the best-reviewed games of all time and becoming the true successors to SM64.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/17/2010 6:59:31 PM | message detail
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/17/2010 7:00:18 PM | message detail
...Dude, are you serious?

Of course. I see no reason why it shouldn't be around the same strength as Soul Calibur, and...

Phoenix Wright (2009g) VS Soul Calibur (2009g)

Phoenix Wright has a strength of 17.46.
Soul Calibur has a strength of 17.59.

Soul Calibur wins with 50.37% of the vote!
A win of 915 with 123,805 total votes cast.
charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2010 7:22:34 PM | message detail
I'll have to go with

...dude, are you serious?

too

Do some research.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/17/2010 7:25:34 PM | message detail
You mean the research showing every poll related to MvC being weak as hell? I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt that maybe it has boosted due to MvC3 hype so it may be as strong as Soul Calibur now. Because if I go by past polls, Soul Calibur would beat it easily.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/17/2010 7:33:49 PM | message detail
The only thing that keeps me from thinking MvsC2 is super-weak is that I don't know how far below SMS NSMBW can really be. I'm gonna stay on wait-and-see mode there, but it's not like either game's very strong.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2010 7:34:58 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2790
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2791

Ignore SSB (or not if you want), Soul Calibur barely beats Tekken (the original doesn't help that much) while MvC2 almost single handily performed well against Mortal Kombat.

MvC3 is currently one of the most hyped games on GameFAQs.

Even without those polls, Soul Calibur never made it past the Dreamcast and Arcade while MvC2 has been exposed to other consoles and was the most successful out of the Dreamcast bunch.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/17/2010 7:38:30 PM | message detail
With that said MvC2 isn't going places either, just that it has the strength to beat bad fodder.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/17/2010 7:41:45 PM | message detail
With that said MvC2 isn't going places either, just that it has the strength to beat bad fodder.

Which is the point I'm making. And like I said, I expect NSMBW > MKWii. So I don't see how Phoenix Wright can't win this match since its a night match to boot. Though theres no point to continue this debate, we'll find out in 75+ minutes and nobody here seems to be willing to budge from where they stand on the issue anyway.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/17/2010 7:45:13 PM | message detail
And like I said, I expect NSMBW > MKWii.

Why would you think that?
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