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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/16/2010 9:31:23 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #196
I very much doubt Majora's Mask would have matched GSC's percentage against MGS. I don't know that TP would have, actually.


As the only stand-out Nintendo game with another PS1 game acting as a thorn in MGS's side? TP could have outright won it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:31:41 PM | message detail
I always got the feeling that Crystal was more liked than G/S.

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vcharon | Posted 11/16/2010 9:31:59 PM | message detail
TPF is very, very real. This is well documented with several cases. ZSS, Solid ****, etc.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:32:21 PM | message detail
Most people here would take MGS1>MGS4, and MGS4 looked around TP's level. Let's not go overboard with ZELDAFear.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:33:30 PM | message detail
I always got the feeling that Crystal was more liked than G/S.

Among Pokefans it is, just like Emerald and Platinum are more liked. Problem is the casuals think of the first two games in each generation.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:33:52 PM | message detail
Link fans feel that Link really is the best character, so he deserves to win every year. That doesn't mean they'll all vote for other Zelda characters, because they don't think those are the best! That's why there's such a huge gap between Link and Ganondorf/Zelda- the biggest dropoff from 1st to 2nd of pretty much any series.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/16/2010 9:35:06 PM | message detail
Link fans feel that Link really is the best character, so he deserves to win every year.

no, they blindly vote for the character of their favorite series. I really hope nobody actually thinks a mute character who looks about as generic of an elf fantasy hero as there is truly the best character ever.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:36:36 PM | message detail
I'll agree that GSC's 2nd round match was more impressive than the 1st round match though. I was really surprised how well it resisted SFF from RBY. I wouldn't be too shocked if it turned out there was rSFF in that match.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:36:37 PM | message detail
I don't think it makes much sense to call Zelda fans drones. Extha isn't going to vote against Sephiroth because he thinks that Seph has been beating up the non-Link/Cloud characters too much and he wants a change.

It just seems more honest to call them idiots if that's what you really mean.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:36:37 PM | message detail
Personally, if my favorite character won over and over again, I would start voting against him. Just to switch it up a bit. Because otherwise, it's boring. Variety is the spice of life.

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vcharon | Posted 11/16/2010 9:37:54 PM | message detail
That's pretty ridiculous. I vote for my favorite character each year because they are my favorite character. That's sort of the point of the character battle... to vote for who you legitimately like more. Once that ceases to happen, we end up with 2007.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:38:03 PM | message detail
That's not the best choice of character, considering that Sephiroth has been the whipping boy of LFF and upset specials recently and has never come close to winning a contest that wasn't intended for him to waltz through.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:38:59 PM | message detail
2007 was one of the greatest results we've ever had here. People loved L-Block winning. We got tired of him very quickly, but back then? It was glorious.

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/16/2010 9:39:52 PM | message detail
Having a different character/game win every contest would be far superior to the same character/game dominating. Its like why the late 90s in baseball was horrible.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/16/2010 9:40:03 PM | message detail
Personally, if my favorite character won over and over again, I would start voting against him. Just to switch it up a bit. Because otherwise, it's boring. Variety is the spice of life.

Yeah, but you don't honestly expect casuals to vote this way, do you?
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vcharon | Posted 11/16/2010 9:40:15 PM | message detail
Not really. Variety for the sake of variety isn't exciting or interesting.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:40:32 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #212
That's not the best choice of character, considering that Sephiroth has been the whipping boy of LFF and upset specials recently and has never come close to winning a contest that wasn't intended for him to waltz through.


But he always beats everybody not named Link or Cloud!

If my favorite character won over and over again (except against two guys), I would start voting against him (except against two guys). Just to switch it up a bit. Because otherwise, it's boring. Variety is the spice of life.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:40:46 PM | message detail
Personally, if my favorite character won over and over again, I would start voting against him. Just to switch it up a bit. Because otherwise, it's boring. Variety is the spice of life.

Thing is almost no one thinks like this because it's illogical to do that.

Really the only time people may have done that was in four-ways and that's if they feel that their number one pick was safe.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:40:52 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #215
Personally, if my favorite character won over and over again, I would start voting against him. Just to switch it up a bit. Because otherwise, it's boring. Variety is the spice of life.

Yeah, but you don't honestly expect casuals to vote this way, do you?


I can forgive casuals because they don't keep track of this stuff nearly as much as we do.

But when you get B8ers who've been here since 2002 going "Link! Link! Four more years!" it's just...man.

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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/16/2010 9:41:51 PM | message detail
Personally, if my favorite character won over and over again, I would start voting against him. Just to switch it up a bit. Because otherwise, it's boring. Variety is the spice of life.

But why does someone have to do that to not be a drone? I wouldn't want to see a character or game I don't like win just for the sake of variety and I don't think many other people would either.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:42:11 PM | message detail

From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #217
But he always beats everybody not named Link or Cloud!

If my favorite character won over and over again (except against two guys), I would start voting against him (except against two guys). Just to switch it up a bit. Because otherwise, it's boring. Variety is the spice of life.


I don't think you understand the difference between doing well in a contest and outright winning it.

And really, char? Changing things up is illogical?

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red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:42:13 PM | message detail
I normally root for the underdog (for example, I rather lost interest in the Patriots after they won 3 times), but I would always vote for Crono even if he won every year for 20 years straight.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:42:40 PM | message detail
Having a different character/game win every contest would be far superior to the same character/game dominating. Its like why the late 90s in baseball was horrible.

You're in the wrong buisness then, people are not going to stop liking something because it wins, if anything they'll rather stay on this site because their favourites perform well.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:42:47 PM | message detail
This is the internet. If your opinions are different, you are a mentally deficient drone.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:43:05 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #220
Personally, if my favorite character won over and over again, I would start voting against him. Just to switch it up a bit. Because otherwise, it's boring. Variety is the spice of life.

But why does someone have to do that to not be a drone? I wouldn't want to see a character or game I don't like win just for the sake of variety and I don't think many other people would either.


Doesn't that imply that Link is the only character you like?

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/16/2010 9:43:41 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #213
2007 was one of the greatest results we've ever had here. People loved L-Block winning. We got tired of him very quickly, but back then? It was glorious.


Quite a few people hated it right away, and I think everyone here would find it stupid if we had joke characters winning every other year. Legit characters rivaling Link would be a good thing, but Link is the only guy that stars in at least half a dozen extremely strong games. Of course he's gonna be on top, and the average GameFAQs visitor isn't nearly so invested in these things as to mandate a shake-up for the sake of one.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/16/2010 9:43:43 PM | message detail
Man, Wii Sports is getting absolutely destroyed. Awesome job, GameFAQs - I was starting to doubt you when NSMBWii lost, but this completely makes up for it!

I can't wait to see the prediction percentage for this match. I have a feeling it'll be surprisingly low - I could see quite a few casuals getting suckered into taking Wii Sports here.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:44:55 PM | message detail
I'd much rather see legit characters rivaling Link, but if it takes a joke, might as well. Would be better than him winning contest #7.

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red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:44:57 PM | message detail
But when you get B8ers who've been here since 2002 going "Link! Link! Four more years!" it's just...man.

Very few Board 8 posters do that. I do......partially because it's funny, I admit. Although, I vote for Cloud/FFVII against Link/OOT at the end because I like those almost as much and we need to end the Nintendo domination.
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vcharon | Posted 11/16/2010 9:45:05 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #225
Doesn't that imply that Link is the only character you like?


Having a favorite implies you like no other characters at all?
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:45:19 PM | message detail
And really, char? Changing things up is illogical?

This isn't politics, there's no reason not to vote for your favourites. Of course it is illogical, think about it.

Instead of voting for my favourite character, I'll vote for my 10th favourite character in this match.

It doesn't make any sense.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:45:19 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #221
I don't think you understand the difference between doing well in a contest and outright winning it.

And really, char? Changing things up is illogical?


Well, we know how every contest will end. Link wins. Cloud beats everybody til he meets Link. Sephiroth beats everybody til he meets Link or Cloud. The rest is a crap shoot.

It's JUST as sure to happen. If you just want variety for variety's sake, why is the contest win so important? He won the villain's contest, even if it was designed for him to walk all over everybody.

I would think you'd expect Seph fans to vote for him over Cloud and Link and vote against him everywhere else.

Now THAT is change we can believe in!
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vcharon | Posted 11/16/2010 9:45:46 PM | message detail
I'd take Link winning every contest until the end of time than another joke result.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/16/2010 9:46:12 PM | message detail
Removing Cloud and Link was the best thing to ever happen to the character contest. I wish they'd get permanent bans.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:47:07 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #231
And really, char? Changing things up is illogical?

This isn't politics, there's no reason not to vote for your favourites. Of course it is illogical, think about it.

Instead of voting for my favourite character, I'll vote for my 10th favourite character in this match.

It doesn't make any sense.


How about upsets? How about momentum and bandwagons? How about if that character/game hasn't gotten a chance to shine yet? How about your actual favorite in the poll doing well a bunch of times in the past and not really needing another win under its belt?

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vcharon | Posted 11/16/2010 9:47:28 PM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #234
Removing Cloud and Link was the best thing to ever happen to the character contest. I wish they'd get permanent bans.


So Sephiroth, Snake, Mario and Samus have free passes to the final each year. That'd get old too. Removing Link is not a solution. You just end up putting the stigma of "always wins!" off on someone else down the ladder.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:49:31 PM | message detail

From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #232
Well, we know how every contest will end. Link wins. Cloud beats everybody til he meets Link. Sephiroth beats everybody til he meets Link or Cloud. The rest is a crap shoot.

It's JUST as sure to happen. If you just want variety for variety's sake, why is the contest win so important? He won the villain's contest, even if it was designed for him to walk all over everybody.

I would think you'd expect Seph fans to vote for him over Cloud and Link and vote against him everywhere else.

Now THAT is change we can believe in!


You are really overblowing what I'm saying. I'm not saying everyone needs to vote against the favorite all the time. Just that, after Link has won, ouright won, so many contests, it would be very nice if he started losing some.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:49:45 PM | message detail
There's no reason to ban Cloud any more.

Link oddly is kind of stuck. On paper he's not too far from everyone anymore, but in reality he SFF anyone that is close to him and the ones that he doesn't are getting weaker.

We're at the time where a new character needs to rise up and that won't happen until someone releases an awesome game by GameFAQs standards.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:51:13 PM | message detail
An awesome game by GameFAQs standards still has to compete with years of nostalgia. It's likely that nothing on this site will ever beat OoT or FF7 until everyone who played them when they were 12 has stopped coming here.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:51:31 PM | message detail
Just that, after Link has won, ouright won, so many contests, it would be very nice if he started losing some.

Not to the people that like Link.


This is getting ridiculous, I don't even like Link.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/16/2010 9:51:44 PM | message detail
So Sephiroth, Snake, Mario and Samus have free passes to the final each year. That'd get old too. Removing Link is not a solution. You just end up putting the stigma of "always wins!" off on someone else down the ladder.

Is there a clear winner between those 4? I would think not, making the contest more exciting then knowing Link will win even before the bracket is released.

There's no reason to ban Cloud any more.

He's not strong enough to beat Link, and too strong for anyone else to beat. Theres no point in having him in there, since it'll just always come down to him losing to Link (if Link is in the contest), or someone else losing to Cloud if Link isn't in the contest. Get rid of both of them and you have a far more open field that would be much better to predict.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:52:30 PM | message detail
Cloud is getting weaker, I'm pretty sure some people would take Mario over him next contest.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:52:33 PM | message detail
People might vote for a character they prefer Link to, because they want a different champion, if they actually like the other character a lot. But for me, only 1 character in the whole top 20 falls into this category: Cloud. (Of course there's also Crono, whom I outright prefer to Link). I suspect it's the same for a lot of people, and the character(s) that each likes enough to vote over Link are different.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/16/2010 9:53:03 PM | message detail
Doesn't that imply that Link is the only character you like?

Perhaps saying "I don't like" is too strong. I'd still rather have Link win than a character I like a fair bit less than Link. Maybe if it was a character I liked slightly less than Link and they had a real chance to win the contest I would vote for them. Don't expect me to suddenly start voting for Cloud or Sephiroth just for the sake of a different winner, though.
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vcharon | Posted 11/16/2010 9:53:27 PM | message detail
It just boggles my mind anyone thinks like this honestly. I can't fathom voting against characters I like "because they've won too much". That... is everything that's wrong with the internet in my opinion. Turning your back on something because it's popular? There's nothing I hate more.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/16/2010 9:53:32 PM | message detail
He's not strong enough to beat Link, and too strong for anyone else to beat. Theres no point in having him in there, since it'll just always come down to him losing to Link (if Link is in the contest), or someone else losing to Cloud if Link isn't in the contest. Get rid of both of them and you have a far more open field that would be much better to predict.

Cloud barely put up 52% on Snake. That's not a guaranteed contest win with Link gone.
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AxemPink | Posted 11/16/2010 9:55:42 PM | message detail
I'd agree with banning Link from the bracket, make him face the winner in the bonus match or something and don't let him come back until we get a major format change or he actually loses. Cloud is the only one can break 45% against him, and Cloud would need a Final Fantasy VII remake to have any chance at actually winning.

Cloud had both Samus and Snake break 47% against him last year, though. He would be the favorite in any 1-on-1 bracket without Link, but it's not inconceivable to see him lose. Snake or Samus getting a boost and FFVII continues to slide could topple him pretty easily. Hell, maybe Mario could do it again, who knows?
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/16/2010 9:55:56 PM | message detail
It's not 'turning your back on something that's popular'. It's trying to get some variety with the contest winner. This pre-contest bracket period was one of the best we've had in years, simply because the actual winner of the contest was debatable. You couldn't just take X to the end and call it a day.

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/16/2010 9:56:28 PM | message detail
It just boggles my mind anyone thinks like this honestly. I can't fathom voting against characters I like "because they've won too much". That... is everything that's wrong with the internet in my opinion. Turning your back on something because it's popular? There's nothing I hate more.

It boggles your mind that someone might be tired of the same winner every single freaking year? Really?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/16/2010 9:57:50 PM | message detail
You know why I love these discussions? Because they imply, without fail, that The Legend of Zelda is destroying something on the front page.
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