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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/13/2010 3:50:33 PM | message detail
Another lost point for me...But at least a Mario game has lost on Nintendofaqs from a game nobody expected!That is awesome!
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Haste_2 | Posted 11/13/2010 3:51:58 PM | message detail
Today's match is somewhat reminiscent of SC2K2 where Capcom characters were actually decent and Nintendo/Square weren't quite so dominant.

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/13/2010 3:54:35 PM | message detail
*Checks poll*

wut.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/13/2010 4:04:16 PM | message detail
The last time NSMBW won an update was back at 5:01 PM, so it's been 2 hours since then.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/13/2010 4:23:02 PM | message detail
Looking at the hourly vote totals, there was definitely a significant amount of rallying after all. Hourly vote totals so far:

1:00 | 7262
2:00 | 6244
3:00 | 5468
4:00 | 4979
5:00 | 4438
6:00 | 4532
7:00 | 4022
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__Smurf__ | Posted 11/13/2010 4:33:03 PM | message detail
Maybe MvC2 is more popular than given credit for?

Jesus christ I've been saying this all along. Look at any poll involving it and you'll get a decent idea of its strength. People here just seemed to have pulled a baseless strength level for it out of their ass and are now "shocked" that its not King of Fighters weak.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/13/2010 4:36:46 PM | message detail
I mentioned this in another topic but considering NSMBW's GotY performance we really should have seen this one coming.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 11/13/2010 4:39:55 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVmc5ZepdVs&feature=related

Only good MvC2 video I can remember atm
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/13/2010 4:58:44 PM | message detail
So... is there even a slight chance of a Mario comeback? Probably not, I know... but man, this result is a bummer. If this result holds, I'm going to lose quite a few battle points; but more than anything, it sucks to see one of my favorite games getting embarrassed like this. :/

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vcharon | Posted 11/13/2010 4:59:26 PM | message detail
This result is so awesome, sucks I missed most of the day with connection issues.
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IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/13/2010 5:15:33 PM | message detail
I mentioned this in another topic but considering NSMBW's GotY performance we really should have seen this one coming.

50.5 // 49.5

OMFG SHOULDA SEEN IT COMING IT WAS SO OBVIOUS.

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Haste_2 | Posted 11/13/2010 5:19:13 PM | message detail
The main reason I'm so happy about today's match is that... WHEN was the last time Nintendo lost to an untested game/character that was not Square/MGS/GTA/Halo/stuff like that?

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WhiteLens | Posted 11/13/2010 5:21:28 PM | message detail
And I bet that the majority of the casual bracket makers picked MvC2, so we're gonna look dumb once the percentile comes in.
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voltch | Posted 11/13/2010 5:45:14 PM | message detail
wth, dumb match.
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695924 | Posted 11/13/2010 5:46:53 PM | message detail
I'm willing to bet only 5% of the people got this match right.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2010 5:53:37 PM | message detail
50.5 // 49.5

OMFG SHOULDA SEEN IT COMING IT WAS SO OBVIOUS.


Yeah people should, anyone calling an easy win for NSMBW were crazy, even if the results were reversed right now.
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 41/48 Today's Matches: MGS3 & NSMBW
Greyfeld | Posted 11/13/2010 5:56:12 PM | message detail
Yeah people should, anyone calling an easy win for NSMBW were crazy, even if the results were reversed right now.

I don't recall anybody calling an easy win for mario. Or at least anybody worth listening to. His point was anybody saying the win for MvC2 was "obvious" needs to be smacked, because the match is ending up with a 1% vote difference.
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voltch | Posted 11/13/2010 5:56:30 PM | message detail
i reckon it's a 38% predix for MVC2.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2010 5:59:35 PM | message detail
Thing is no one said MvC2 winning was obvious just that we should've seen it coming.
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 41/48 Today's Matches: MGS3 & NSMBW
IngmarBirdman | Posted 11/13/2010 6:07:19 PM | message detail
Thing is no one said MvC2 winning was obvious just that we should've seen it coming.

In that case I don't see the point of the post because we all DID see this coming. It was heavily discussed and a number of folks agreed the upset probability was high.

Still, obvious my ass.

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EvilNcr | Posted 11/13/2010 6:07:33 PM | message detail
I think the prediction percentage will be really low. Probably around 25-30%. I bet most voters didn't even think it could win.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/13/2010 6:08:04 PM | message detail
I could have sworn a lot of people had Mario at 60%+
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EvilNcr | Posted 11/13/2010 6:09:04 PM | message detail
*raises hand shamefully* (had him at 59 something)
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/13/2010 6:19:11 PM | message detail
My prediction was 54%-55%. I was worried about this, even had MVC2 in my battle for a while, but ended up going with "A fighting game that originated on the Dreamcast probably can't beat a mainline Mario game, even if NSMB is weak."

Not surprised by the result. I am surprised by the day vote - since when does Mario roll over and day as the day goes on?

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/13/2010 6:20:38 PM | message detail
Not surprised by the result. I am surprised by the day vote - since when does Mario roll over and day as the day goes on?

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3475&type=1&seconds=60&max=0
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3492&type=1&seconds=60&max=0
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2010 6:24:27 PM | message detail
When we start the match at the height of the day vote, Mario has nowhere to go but down as day turns to evening and night.
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EvilNcr | Posted 11/13/2010 6:36:09 PM | message detail
Well this match is a classic case of "if it started at midnight, the result would be switched."
Board vote and Europe carrying it until the early morning would have completely neutered California and the U.S. vote.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/13/2010 6:38:13 PM | message detail
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/13/2010 6:39:17 PM | message detail
Nah. This might end up with 1300-1400 vote win by MvC2, thats not being overturned overnight, even though Mario is dominating Europe. It'll be a lot closer but don't forget that California would still be able to vote first couple hours of a night match.

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transience | Posted 11/13/2010 6:40:03 PM | message detail
Well this match is a classic case of "if it started at midnight, the result would be switched."
Board vote and Europe carrying it until the early morning would have completely neutered California and the U.S. vote.

I have no idea if this is true, but if it is, it's kind of hilarious. I picked NSMB because I figured the day vote would save it if there was any trouble.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2010 6:40:57 PM | message detail
Huh. I don't know what would happen if we let the match run another 12 hours. MvC2 will gain from the night but fall from Europe making up a much higher percentage of the votes. Guessing it would be safe though- it'd probably get up to a lead of 2000 at the current rate before Mario could stall it around 4 AM.
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EvilNcr | Posted 11/13/2010 6:48:03 PM | message detail
I'm not saying MvC2 wouldn't win a 24 hours match, I'm saying it would have lost if the match ran from midnight to noon by looking at its demographics. The board vote for Mario is enough to give it an early advantage and when Europe starts being the majority of voters around 2-3 AM (i think), it would have built up its lead up to at the very least 6-7 AM EST... and the strongest demographic in the US is the west... so they'd be starting to be a factor close to the end of the match.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/13/2010 6:58:39 PM | message detail
Didn't say it was an obvious win. Just that NSMBW being none too strong should not be surprising given what we already knew about it. MvC2 wasn't a colossal underdog but there's no denying that NSMBW was the clear favourite and most people thought it would be an easy upper 50s/low 60s win.

When looking at prior evidence we can see that MvC2 isn't that weak and especially that NSMBW isn't that strong. That's all I was saying.
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Mr3790 | Posted 11/13/2010 6:59:38 PM | message detail
No, another lost point.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2010 7:30:15 PM | message detail
So is there a reason why some people are hyping World of Warcraft > Animal Crossing?

Besides lol 35% playership rate.
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 41/48 Today's Matches: MGS3 & NSMBW
charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2010 7:37:39 PM | message detail
I mean Animal Crossing > World of Warcraft.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/13/2010 7:40:01 PM | message detail
Besides lol 35% playership rate.

Does "lol WoW" or "lol MMORPGs" count? >_>
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2010 8:02:45 PM | message detail
Match LI: (5) Paper Mario vs. (12) Katamari Damacy

Information

Name: Paper Mario
Year: 2001
Previous Performance: SpC2k9 – 4th in round 1

Name: Katamari Damacy
Year: 2004
Previous Performance: N/A

Analysis

Katamari Damacy was the first game where the average person doesn’t care about it yet is loved by the board. I was actually surprised that the game was able to reach the contest. Very little has been discussed about this match, but looking around the board most people are expecting this to be a simple large victory for Paper Mario.

One of the main discussions about Paper Mario and its chances in the following round is whether or not it suffered from SFF last contest. Considering that the opponent was Metroid Prime I really doubt that Paper Mario was SFF. LFF on the other hand is still up for discussion, but that can only be so strong meaning Paper Mario probably won’t be that much stronger compare to what he showed last contest.

I’m not sure what to expect from Katamari Damacy, on one hand it could be one of the weakest games in the bracket while on the other it could put up a respectable performance. Even back when it was at its strongest King of All Cosmos was still crushed by Tidus in the character battle; then again the game wasn’t really about the characters. The only information we have on the series was the favourite Namco series poll that was held earlier this year. Despite such weak competition it was crushed by the likes of Tales, Soul Calibur and Tekken.

Since it isn’t expected that Paper Mario will be a powerhouse this all depends on whether Katamari Damacy is just fodder or terrible fodder. There is a chance that we could see a huge blowout, but I feel that people will remember the fad five years ago and give it enough support for it to look respectable.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Paper Mario > Katamari Damacy

charmander6000’s Prediction: Paper Mario wins, 65.25% - 34.75%

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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 41/48 Today's Matches: MGS3 & NSMBW
WhiteLens | Posted 11/13/2010 8:06:45 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3909
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4054

People just don't care about WoW at all on this site, and WC III losing isn't exactly the greatest sign that the series still has strength.
It's lucky to only be up against Animal Crossing.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2010 8:14:06 PM | message detail
Because Animal Crossing is not going to be super weak, and WoW is hated by the majority of the site. I know 4-way results have held up remarkably well in 1v1, but WoW may have been the exception- Arthas did way way way worse in 1v1 than he had done in 4-way. Does Diablo get 60-40'd by Kefka now? I don't think so.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/13/2010 8:16:40 PM | message detail
A lot of that was from Kefka being a lot stronger, though.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/13/2010 8:17:11 PM | message detail
I have AC > WoW just because AC shouldn't be completely weak and its the type of game that nobody really hates so its an easy target to get the WoW anti votes. Wow is the favorite, but nobody should be surprised at all if it loses
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2010 8:18:16 PM | message detail
Considering what Kefka turned to be I would take him to win comfortably.

Also Animal Crossing is quite low on the Nintendo totem pole, there's no reason to think the game has much strength.
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 41/48 Today's Matches: MGS3 & NSMBW
red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2010 8:18:54 PM | message detail
Kefka was also stronger in 2005 than 2008, so if he beats Diablo now, it's still going to be close.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2010 8:21:01 PM | message detail
Kefka was also stronger in 2005 than 2008, so if he beats Diablo now, it's still going to be close.

You also have to remember that Kefka won over Arthas at night while lost to Bowser during the day.
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GotD Bracket: 41/48 Today's Matches: MGS3 & NSMBW
red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2010 8:24:37 PM | message detail
So? He still wouldn't come close to 60% on Diablo in any time period. Plus, "World of Warcraft" is going to generate a lot more hate than "Arthas."

The problem is that we've never really seen the hardcore fanbase theory work, pretty much ever. But if there were going to be an exceptional case, WoW would be it- and we've actually seen it operate (probably) with Arthas.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/13/2010 8:26:11 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2018
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3807

I know Ganondorf and Bowser overperformed in the villains contest (was it only against Sephiroth? I can't remember) but that's also Kefka during the day. 60-40 may still be a bit much for Kefka to pull off, but I think he might get pretty close.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2010 8:26:28 PM | message detail
I'm fine if you believe that there is a large difference between four-ways and 1v1 for WoW, but that still gives WoW decent strength, more than enough to run over Animal Crossing.
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GotD Bracket: 41/48 Today's Matches: MGS3 & NSMBW
red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2010 8:28:08 PM | message detail
I think pretty highly of Animal Crossing too. It beat Mario Sunshine in the 2002 GOTY, and I think it's still stronger than it today.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/13/2010 8:30:55 PM | message detail
If Animal Crossing = Mario sunshine, then in a 1v1 match versus WoW, it'll win easily. I don't think Animal Crossing is that strong, but its one of those games thats impossible to hate
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