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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 944
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/11/2010 11:26:50 AM | message detail |
I
wish they fixed the issues with ME1 instead of just scraping it. Like
have a better laid out inventory system, have all your gear be more
"unique", have more diverse stats and abilities to choose while
leveling... There were issues, but easily fixable. I'm worried Dragon
Age 2 is gonna be the same "Streamlining" instead of fixing and
improving the game. But hey, I guess if it sells more copies to more
casual gamers who don't want to micromanage as much and all, I guess
that makes sense. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/11/2010 11:27:01 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #198 totally agree, plus the Mako.....ugh. I think scanning is weak...but mako. ugh. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/ff13borderlands.png |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/11/2010 11:27:18 AM | message detail |
Yeah, I might have been given the rest of the game's average RPG elements a pass if it didn't have that inventory system. Yikes. --- DFF |
abdou | Posted 11/11/2010 11:30:25 AM | message detail |
I
really hated how instead of making exploring planets easier and funner
with the mako they scrapped the whole thing and replaced it with
scanning. --- ... |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/11/2010 11:31:24 AM | message detail |
Yeah,
I enjoyed the Mako way more than the scanning. I liked going onto all
different kinds of planets with different landscapes, geologies,
weather etc and checking them out. The Mako controls never bothered me,
either. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/11/2010 11:32:23 AM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #201 With COD's success can you blame them? I'm sure ME3 will add in more aspects, but they had to really make sure ME2 was first and foremost a playable game that didn't scare people away. The attraction to ME for me wasn't RPG elements or shooting..it was a huge futuristic space world adventure done right with epic storyline and awesome characters. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/ff13borderlands.png |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/11/2010 11:32:56 AM | message detail |
ME's
combat was good. It set a good basis for ME2's combat system, which is
awesome. ME1's worst problems are the item management, the
loading/texture pop-up issues, the complete lack of variety in the side
quests and side planets, and the MAKO in general. I always said it was a very solid game with a lot of potential. Luckily, ME2 realized much of that potential. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
ZFS | Posted 11/11/2010 11:34:28 AM | message detail |
It's
more about good game design rather than appeasing "casual gamers." The
stuff BioWare fixed were things most people complained about from ME1.
They took it too far in some cases (the Citadel is weak in ME2 compared
to ME1; having to research additional training to learn skills is a
bit...odd, not being able to explore as many planets is both a good and
bad thing), but for the most part, they trimmed a lot of the fat that
needed to go. ME3 has potential to be something even better if they
handle it right. --- A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. |
methedemon | Posted 11/11/2010 11:35:20 AM | message detail |
They
just needed to make the mako easier to control and add more variety to
the planets, like more locations and stuff. But yeah exploring
different planets was fun and gave the game that space feeling. Also the story in ME was a bit better. In ME2 the "main" plot was weak. About 70% of the game was about the squad's quests and other side quests. I didn't feel like it expanded the ME universe. |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/11/2010 11:36:02 AM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #205 Thing is..Scanning was just lazier version of Mako and it wasn't frsutating..boring? yes but i can deal with standing there and just pressing the RT button...but having a fight with a giant Tank and trying to navigate is more annoying. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/ff13borderlands.png |
ZFS | Posted 11/11/2010 11:36:56 AM | message detail |
Mako controls were a disaster, but you fortunately didn't need to use it all that often, unless you did sidequests. Hammerhead from ME2 is everything the Mako should have originally been. --- A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/11/2010 11:40:13 AM | message detail |
Also
another issue I have with Mass Effect 2 is that the soldiers were
overpowered. There was never any reason to play any other class. Mass
Effect 1 had a bit more balance between the classes (though Soldier was
still best, it was no where near as overpowered as with ME2) --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/11/2010 11:41:00 AM | message detail |
Also
if you're gonna use mako's in then you need to create levels which
aren't a big massive area of crap like most isolated planets would be. Think about Mako's being in ME2...going to every planet riding that thing with the awful controls to search for material? Yeah. Though that's something for Bioware to think about. If they want us to actually go and physically explore those planets then they might need to make the actual area of focus smaller and have more interesting things to do. |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/11/2010 11:42:49 AM | message detail |
Anyway how strong do people think Mass Effect is? Everyone that was in PvZ's vote-in did okay (minus SFF for MKDS). Do you guys think the original has a chance against something like Metroid Prime/Halo or even Bioshock, personally I don't. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 37/44 Today's Matches: Portal & FFXII |
Big Bob | Posted 11/11/2010 11:44:00 AM | message detail |
Mass Effect is easily the weakest 2-seed. Yes, moreso than SotC. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/Mach+Tornado.png |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/11/2010 11:45:06 AM | message detail |
Mass
Effect I think will be the 3rd strongest WRPG, behind Fallout 3 and
Oblivion. I'm still not giving Portal/FFXII an instant bye past round 3
vs. Mass Effect. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
transients | Posted 11/11/2010 11:45:11 AM | message detail |
Mass Effect gonna surprise some people. --- xyzzy |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/11/2010 11:47:04 AM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #211 Agreed. Here are the only two major changes I'd love to see implemented in ME3: 1. Scanning. Keep the current probe/fuel purchase system, but instead of actually having to scan planets individually, the game should tell you "This planet needs 10 probes." You press one button, it automatically launches 10 probes, and you procure all the planet's minerals. So much faster, so much better. 2. Hammerhead. Use it to go from main area to main area in the plot-central worlds. Doing this in ME1 was just about the only time the MAKO was fun. It also makes the game seem bigger. As mentioned before, I do think the ME2's main plot was a little weak, but I have no worries about ME3. It's gonna tie everything up and should be good. --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
ZFS | Posted 11/11/2010 11:49:49 AM | message detail |
Do you guys think the original has a chance against something like Metroid Prime/Halo or even Bioshock, personally I don't. I think it has a good shot to be up there, yeah. Round 3, I think, is going to be one to get excited about. People always gave FFXII or Portal a pass there, but Mass Effect will do a lot better than it showed last contest. Much has changed since then -- for the better in ME's case. --- There are no foreign lands. It is the traveler only who is foreign. |
Advokaiser | Posted 11/11/2010 11:53:42 AM | message detail |
Mass Effect is easily the weakest 2-seed. Mass Effect would own Halo IMO. Also, I always confused Mass Effect with Bioshock... lol me I guess... --- "I remember a time when someone called World of Warcraft 'World of WoW'" |
voltch | Posted 11/11/2010 11:56:23 AM | message detail |
shadow of the colossus surely can't be all that. --- Hau hauu, omochi kaeri! |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/11/2010 11:58:26 AM | message detail |
Shadow of the Colossus did pull off 35% on Resident Evil 4 last contest, it'll at least make MGS2 sweat a bit. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 37/44 Today's Matches: Portal & FFXII |
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/11/2010 12:00:31 PM | message detail |
I'm still feeling good about Portal, but FF12 isn't looking like a slouch by any means either. Can't wait for R2! A downloadable title from popcap, and one that should be weaker than Braid? Yeah, its getting 75% minimum PVZ weaker than Braid? I really doubt that. If the two had a match together, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if PVZ pulled off an Ulti-style blowout. --- CURRENT GOTY SCORE: 39 Portal > FFXII and Mass Effect. Book it. |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/11/2010 12:01:49 PM | message detail |
I
think it has a good shot to be up there, yeah. Round 3, I think, is
going to be one to get excited about. People always gave FFXII or
Portal a pass there, but Mass Effect will do a lot better than it
showed last contest. Much has changed since then -- for the better in
ME's case. The thing is, JRPGs have shown to have a lot better showing than WRPGs on this site. Fallout and Oblivion are pretty much the biggest ones on here, and I'm still not sure I'd take them over a second-tier FF game like IX. I have a feeling that ME, as great a game as it is, is going to be decidedly weaker than those top tier WRPGs. As long a Portal beats FF12 in round 2, I'm going to shoot for ME to win the third round, but I think it's going to be an uphill battle. --- PSN - Aevio Playing: Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes |
Advokaiser | Posted 11/11/2010 12:03:03 PM | message detail |
PVZ
weaker than Braid? I really doubt that. If the two had a match
together, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if PVZ pulled off an
Ulti-style blowout I was expecting less than 30% in the P4 match. Seems like Braid could actually be strong enough to beat PvZ with a 55% margin at least. --- "I remember a time when someone called World of Warcraft 'World of WoW'" |
voltch | Posted 11/11/2010 12:05:15 PM | message detail |
MGS2
might sweat a lil bit in the armpits, but it'll still win the match in
straight set with a right hand knockout goaaaaaaaaaaaal! --- *Shakes Fist* |
ZFS | Posted 11/11/2010 12:05:37 PM | message detail |
1.
Scanning. Keep the current probe/fuel purchase system, but instead of
actually having to scan planets individually, the game should tell you
"This planet needs 10 probes." You press one button, it automatically
launches 10 probes, and you procure all the planet's minerals. So much
faster, so much better. I actually like this idea - it speeds up the process without radically changing it, because scanning wasn't all that bad an idea as it is. Good stuff. --- A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/11/2010 12:06:23 PM | message detail |
The
thing is, JRPGs have shown to have a lot better showing than WRPGs on
this site. Fallout and Oblivion are pretty much the biggest ones on
here, and I'm still not sure I'd take them over a second-tier FF game
like IX. WRPGs have looked better this contest than jrpgs. WRPGs have lost a total of one match, and that was Fable losing to TF2 via mass rallying. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
creativename | Posted 11/11/2010 12:10:10 PM | message detail |
Mass Effect stats and discussion what is this. Doesn't Mass Effect have it's own board people >_> From: -LusterSoldier- | #150 Portal had more joke trends really. It just continually declined, the day didn't help it. The night poll aspect should help it overall though because night matches have lower vote totals, which means things with jokish trends will benefit. That static like votebase will have a higher influence than in day matches. So while FF12 will do well in the dead of night like always, the Power Hour vote will hurt it badly. And the Power Hour is much more important than the dead hours vote. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
ZFS | Posted 11/11/2010 12:10:27 PM | message detail |
I
have a feeling that ME, as great a game as it is, is going to be
decidedly weaker than those top tier WRPGs. As long a Portal beats FF12
in round 2, I'm going to shoot for ME to win the third round, but I
think it's going to be an uphill battle. As it stands now, yeah, it's not going to be easy. It really depends on the showing it puts up against PvZ and SoA / BG2. I'm not sure I would say it's because JRPGs have been performing better on the whole -- FFXII isn't exactly lighting the world on fire right now, for instance -- but rather because ME1 started out so much further behind the rest of the games like Fallout and Oblivion. I think a lot of ground was made up since then, though, and even if it does lose, it shouldn't be by too much, unless it flat-out bombs against Plants vs. Zombies. You gotta be able to blowout a game like Plants vs. freakin' Zombies in order to have a shot at real games. 70%+ is what I've always thought we'd see, but if it's something like, say, low 60s, yeah, ME1 doesn't have much of a shot. --- A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. |
voltch | Posted 11/11/2010 12:11:30 PM | message detail |
FFXII doing ok still! --- Uguu~ |
pjbasis | Posted 11/11/2010 12:11:39 PM | message detail |
Mass Effect would lose to Portal or Final Fantasy XII. Fallout 3 is probably the only standout WRPG that can fight with the strongest JRPGs. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/11/2010 12:14:35 PM | message detail |
Fallout 3 would beat any jrpg in this contest outside of FFX and GSC (unless I've forgotten some obvious jrpg) --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
creativename | Posted 11/11/2010 12:15:10 PM | message detail |
From: TheCodeisBosco | #223 I've heard of Braid before, many times in various places. I've never remotely heard of PvZ. Braid also seems to be more popular, acclaimed and respected from what I've read of them. The only way PVZ will be stronger than Braid is via comedy power. The name of the game is outrageous, I can maybe see some voters double-taking and voting for it just for that. But I don't see any reason for it to be stronger than Braid outside of votes based on comedic appeal. Both these games are so weak though, that might actually be enough to matter and push it ahead of Braid. But, I wouldn't bet on that. Mass Effect should stomp it into the ground quite thoroughly. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
ZFS | Posted 11/11/2010 12:16:39 PM | message detail |
Well,
let's be honest here -- FFXII is by no means among the strongest JRPGs,
even in this contest. It's not weak, but FFXII doesn't have the same
quality that makes people default to Final Fantasy when against
non-Square / Nintendo games. It's why everyone is expecting Portal to
be in round 3. --- The whole object of travel is not to set foot on foreign land; it is at last to set foot on one's own country as a foreign land. |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/11/2010 12:16:43 PM | message detail |
I'm still not giving Portal/FFXII an instant bye past round 3 vs. Mass Effect. you also had Crisis Core winning so maybe we don't listen to you --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
voltch | Posted 11/11/2010 12:18:12 PM | message detail |
Crisis Core vs Gears 2, who ya got? --- Uguu~ |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/11/2010 12:19:24 PM | message detail |
you also had Crisis Core winning Not in my battle bracket! --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/11/2010 12:20:06 PM | message detail |
I wonder if next to Jack was Cloud,would it won? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
ZFS | Posted 11/11/2010 12:20:16 PM | message detail |
Crisis
Core should beat Gears 2, but I dunno if it would beat it by enough to
make up the difference between FFXII and Portal. What would CC need to
get on Gears 2 in order for FFXII to look equal to Portal? --- There are no foreign lands. It is the traveler only who is foreign. |
creativename | Posted 11/11/2010 12:20:32 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #230 Well that's of limited relevance in criticizing JRPGs, considering FFXII is up against another JRPG...! :) From: pjbasis | #232 I've said this before, but I really don't think FO3 is much stronger than Oblivion. I agree that Portal/FF12 winner should beat ME. ME should keep it fairly respectable though. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Demon HunterX | Posted 11/11/2010 12:22:06 PM | message detail |
mass effect would beat FFXII but mass effect would be beat pretty bad by Portal --- Currently playing: SC2, Civ 5 Next up: eh ; Awaiting: meh |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/11/2010 12:22:13 PM | message detail |
I wonder if next to Jack was Cloud,would it won? 1. who's jack 2. no, a picture of Cloud doesn't make up this kind of percentage. Dissidia had like every FF character in its picture, and it couldn't beat MW2. --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/11/2010 12:22:22 PM | message detail |
If it wasn't for New Vegas I would take Oblivion over Fallout 3. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 37/44 Today's Matches: Portal & FFXII |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/11/2010 12:24:27 PM | message detail |
I cant' wait to see Oblivion surpise people actually. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/ff13borderlands.png |
creativename | Posted 11/11/2010 12:24:27 PM | message detail |
Well, assuming CC rises to 44%, that would be 28.53%/44%/2=67.58% CC on Gears 2? I think Portal will hold FF12 to low 40's, myself. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
ZFS | Posted 11/11/2010 12:25:59 PM | message detail |
Hmm. Yeah, Crisis Core beats Gears 2, but it's not with a doubling. Portal looking good there. --- A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/11/2010 12:27:22 PM | message detail |
Oblivion
and Fallout 3 are two of the better western games we go there. Both are
solid games who can hold their own against anyone, though I'd have to
give Fallout 3 the edge just because of common sense. I know stats
might show they're really close, but Fallout 3 is just the bigger
phenomenon this generation. You hear no where near the talk for
Oblivion as you do for Fallout 3 --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
voltch | Posted 11/11/2010 12:29:41 PM | message detail |
then
again, you got 2 RPG games here and I reckon the RPG voters might show
some unity vs Portal, or the FF fans at the very least. --- mii~ |
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/11/2010 12:31:34 PM | message detail |
I've never remotely heard of PvZ. Whoa, really? Maybe it's just me, but PVZ seems to be much more well-known than Braid. This PVZ YouTube video, for instance, has well over four million views: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N1_0SUGlDQ Even the ridiculously amazing Braid/Soulja Boy video doesn't come close to that! Braid also seems to be more popular, acclaimed and respected from what I've read of them. Braid is generally more acclaimed, I agree, but the gap isn't necessarily as big as one might think. PVZ received a lot of acclaim as well; according to GameRankings, the average rating for the PC version is 8.9, and the X360 version has a 9.0 average. The only way PVZ will be stronger than Braid is via comedy power. I really think this will be a big factor for PVZ. The name is hilarious, and if not for Mega Man 9, it'd have the funniest boxart of the contest as well. Even without a picture, though, it still did fairly well in the vote-ins; definitely a good sign! --- CURRENT GOTY SCORE: 39 Portal > FFXII and Mass Effect. Book it. |
