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red sox 777 | Posted 11/10/2010 9:12:39 PM | message detail
On the 11th minute of the 11th hour of the 11th month of the 1918th year of our Lord.....

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
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~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://www.thengamer.com/
http://thengamer.com/xstats

~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame
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~*Character Contest Histories*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/10/2010 9:20:35 PM | message detail
It might be able to keep the tripling afterall
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695924 | Posted 11/10/2010 9:21:05 PM | message detail
Last year XII anti voters had other games to throw their vote for. This year I don't think even the most extreme XII hater would vote for an FPS, assuming the XII hater is a jRPG fanatic.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/10/2010 9:21:06 PM | message detail
Huh.

Well anyway we'll talk about what this % means for portal later, back to contested matches:

Dead Rising > Persona 4.

Lock it up.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/10/2010 9:21:15 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4050
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4101
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4100

So basically, Portal is gonna win the contest!

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abdou | Posted 11/10/2010 9:21:50 PM | message detail
Impressive showing, but Iam still comfortable in RE4>Portal
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VaultBoyAlbion | Posted 11/10/2010 9:22:22 PM | message detail
Last year XII anti voters had other games to throw their vote for. This year I don't think even the most extreme XII hater would vote for an FPS, assuming the XII hater is a jRPG fanatic.

Good thing its not facing a FPS then, huh?
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abdou | Posted 11/10/2010 9:23:05 PM | message detail
Portal is a puzzle game , isn't?
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695924 | Posted 11/10/2010 9:23:11 PM | message detail
I'm talking about Portal vs XII next round.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/10/2010 9:23:27 PM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #004
Huh.

Well anyway we'll talk about what this % means for portal later, back to contested matches:

Dead Rising > Persona 4.

Lock it up.


after that abysmal performance by P4 today I'd say so.
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Mr3790 | Posted 11/10/2010 9:23:33 PM | message detail
Oh wow nice performance from portal here.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/10/2010 9:23:47 PM | message detail

From: VaultBoyAlbion | #007
Last year XII anti voters had other games to throw their vote for. This year I don't think even the most extreme XII hater would vote for an FPS, assuming the XII hater is a jRPG fanatic.

Good thing its not facing a FPS then, huh?


Oh boy, not this argument again.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/10/2010 9:23:48 PM | message detail
I'm talking about Portal vs XII next round.

Yeah, puzzle game vs. jrpg.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/10/2010 9:23:53 PM | message detail
You know didn't 12 come within a % or 2 on half-life 2

why is it being written off so terribly.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/10/2010 9:25:45 PM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #014
You know didn't 12 come within a % or 2 on half-life 2

why is it being written off so terribly.


That was mainly my reasoning for taking FF12 > Portal. Despite FF12 being weaker than the other mainline games, it still went toe-to-toe with Half-Life 2(a game I can't see Portal being stronger then).

But I've been wrong before!
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/10/2010 9:26:24 PM | message detail
You know didn't 12 come within a % or 2 on half-life 2

why is it being written off so terribly.


Because people like to go crazy over results where we had no numbers on.

Then again I have Portal > FFXII so I'm not complaining.
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GotD Bracket: 37/44 Today's Matches: Portal & FFXII
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/10/2010 9:26:48 PM | message detail
Best case scenario though will be Portal not even facing XII next round, though. Believe
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/10/2010 9:28:20 PM | message detail
Comparing Portal to FFX and KH through their opponents in that vote-in is a FANTASTIC idea. This proves one thing for certain: GameFAQs has gotten two million more Mac-users this contest.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/10/2010 9:30:57 PM | message detail
Portal stabilizing at this percentage with a favorable night vote ahead of it? Huh.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/10/2010 9:32:04 PM | message detail
Wow, Portal is kicking copious ass.

This makes me feel better about Portal > XII and PM:TTYD > Gears
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/10/2010 9:37:31 PM | message detail
Now that the match has largely stabilized, what does FFXII need to do tomorrow to make R2 a match again? Does it matter since we never had a lot of information on Gears 2 or CC:FF7?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/10/2010 9:38:39 PM | message detail
I'm not sure anything FF12 could do tomorrow would make it the favorite.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/10/2010 9:39:33 PM | message detail
You know what FF12 could do to make R2 a match again?

Lose.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/10/2010 9:40:23 PM | message detail
It doesn't really matter since any blowout we would give to SFF.

Plus we know nothing about either game.
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GotD Bracket: 37/44 Today's Matches: Portal & FFXII
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/10/2010 9:41:30 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #021
Now that the match has largely stabilized, what does FFXII need to do tomorrow to make R2 a match again? Does it matter since we never had a lot of information on Gears 2 or CC:FF7?


That, plus "zomg SFF" complaints will be thrown about. I think both titles should be close, if not at, Half-Life 2 level of strength. Couple them together in a night match, and I think it can be pretty interesting(although that board vote is gonna put FF12 in hole for sure)
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/10/2010 9:41:37 PM | message detail
Actually Extha is probably right, a loss would imply that CC is pretty strong.

Too bad CC being strong isn't happening.
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GotD Bracket: 37/44 Today's Matches: Portal & FFXII
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/10/2010 10:02:47 PM | message detail
Last year XII anti voters had other games to throw their vote for. This year I don't think even the most extreme XII hater would vote for an FPS, assuming the XII hater is a jRPG fanatic.

Portal isn't just any FPS, and you have to get that stigma out of your head. There's very few people here who only play jRPGs and ignore everything else. JRPGs are rare these days, and since this is a contest based on the past decade where very few popular jRPGs came out, you're pretty much cutting your fanatics big time.

Also, Portal isn't an FPS. It's Portal, you know, the game that gets mad respect and is universally loved just about everywhere.
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transience | Posted 11/10/2010 10:05:41 PM | message detail
Portal for strongest Western game?
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/10/2010 10:25:00 PM | message detail
Goldeneye is still a pretty high mark to beat and Gears of War 2 may really just be horribly weak. I'd probably still back Goldeneye over Portal.
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pjbasis | Posted 11/10/2010 10:28:58 PM | message detail
The opponent being an FPS thing is what I used to justify Dissidia.

If Modern Warfare didn't stir up the hate, Portal definitely won't/
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/10/2010 11:06:42 PM | message detail
My first reaction: Man, am I glad I picked TTYD > Gears 1

My second reaction: Man, I hope FFXII kills really kills Crisis Core later.

My third reaction: Eh, Crisis Core would probably stomp Gears 2 here anyway. This game sucks.
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ZFS | Posted 11/10/2010 11:14:18 PM | message detail
Go, Portal. Nice numbers its putting up here.

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Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/10/2010 11:16:10 PM | message detail
Well I'm glad I took Portal through to RE4! Don't think it has much chance there though - FFXII will be much stronger than Gears of War 2, and probably gets into the 40s. RE4 shouldn't have difficulty getting more than 60% on FFXII (even taking its value from the MGS3/Oblivion match and comparing through Twilight Princess it gets 56%, and that won't be hurt by a 1v1 format).

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voltch | Posted 11/11/2010 1:36:03 AM | message detail
I had DR in my bracket....I'm so blind right now at reading mah bracket.
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Liwakip | Posted 11/11/2010 1:41:31 AM | message detail
Goldeneye is still a pretty high mark to beat

Perhaps moreso now that Activision bastardized it into Call of Duty: James Bond Edition?
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/11/2010 1:42:32 AM | message detail
Portal for strongest Western game?

ehh, I'd still take Fallout 3, I think.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/11/2010 3:09:07 AM | message detail
I never would've expected that a minimalist game would be breaking 70% on one of the most popular online multiplayer games of the generation. Way to go GameFAQs, and I'm not sarcastic.

All hail minimalism.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 11/11/2010 3:13:22 AM | message detail
Wow, look at portal go ;_;
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/11/2010 3:13:47 AM | message detail
Are you joking? Gears 2 was a slap in the face for Gears 1 fans. Gears 2 had horde which was amazing but the MP was a step down and people hated it(like me who is a massive gears fan). Portal wouldn't be getting anywhere near 70% against Gears 1.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/11/2010 3:21:31 AM | message detail
While I do expect Gears 1 to be stronger on this site, I thought Gears 2 > Gears 1 was the critical consensus due to better story and firefight mode.

I'm going to look annoying again, but on IGN's top 25 Xbox games list Gears 1 was only #20, so if it's going to suck there it's definitely going to suck here. Paper Mario fans have nothing to worry about.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/11/2010 3:45:13 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #041
While I do expect Gears 1 to be stronger on this site, I thought Gears 2 > Gears 1 was the critical consensus due to better story and firefight mode.

I'm going to look annoying again, but on IGN's top 25 Xbox games list Gears 1 was only #20, so if it's going to suck there it's definitely going to suck here. Paper Mario fans have nothing to worry about.


IGN =/= This site. Otherwise Halo would be strongest game and noone would care about obscure JRPG's.

And Gears 2 was better than Gears 1 in many ways..but not the most important. MP was a bastardization of a Modern FPS. Gears 1 You didn't have matchmaking crap. nerfed Shotgun and pathetic stealth grenades... and could play whatever you want and have flexible options in terms of private play..peopel liked it, then they put in all this other crap like Halo.

And it's HORDE mode..not FIREFIGHT. Please don't use Halo terminology.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/11/2010 3:46:29 AM | message detail
Gears 2 is blatantly superior because of the amazing script.

"There's like a ****load of locust down there"
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/11/2010 4:04:56 AM | message detail
So much for my FF12 > Portal upset pick!
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/11/2010 4:16:02 AM | message detail
I still think that FF12 will win.I mean it is a FF game right?
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creativename | Posted 11/11/2010 4:38:25 AM | message detail
DR seems to have become the favorite over P4, but I'm not sure about that. Most people's logic seems to be that P4>TWE, but in a day match DR>P4>TWE. That seems like a relatively narrow window to me. If I had to pick one I'd pick P4 still, although it's close to a toss-up.

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The problem is RE4 isnt some weak game.

It is stupidly well respected, and it is going to slap whoever it faces around like a *****


I agree with this. Portal is the clear favorite over FF12 right now (although I wouldn't write FF12 off), but I really don't think it will beat RE4. As he said, RE4 is "stupidly well respected".

I never really though Gears had much shot against Paper Mario so this doesn't change much on that for me.

I have been looking at the PM/World of Warcraft round 2 match though. I understand why WoW was the favorite, but a Mario game losing to World of Warcraft on GameFAQs just...seems wrong.
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creativename | Posted 11/11/2010 4:42:01 AM | message detail

From: transience | #028
Portal for strongest Western game?


I'd say Goldeneye>Fallout 3=Oblivion. People seem to forget about Oblivion, but I think Oblivion wins Fallout 3's division as well. That division blows.

From: LinkMarioSamus | #041
While I do expect Gears 1 to be stronger on this site, I thought Gears 2 > Gears 1 was the critical consensus due to better story and firefight mode.


I don't know what the critical consensus is, but everyone knew Gears>Gears 2. I'd take Gears to 60/40 Gears 2 before SFF.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2010 5:03:03 AM | message detail
Man, Portal dropped another 3% since I went to bed...ouch. There will be NO calling Portal/FF12 early next round; Portal's going to make it look like a joke for awhile, count on it.
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transience | Posted 11/11/2010 5:04:48 AM | message detail
this match looks much more reasonable now that we're not at 80%. Portal's still doing great but it's not blowing minds. Gears 2 has always sucked on this site.

the ball's in FF12's court to crush Crisis Core. otherwise it's going in as a big underdog.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/11/2010 5:15:26 AM | message detail
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this will end up in the 71-72% range if I had to guess.

whoo I am learning trends.
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