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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2010 11:15:10 AM | message detail
I for one welcome our new Golden Sun overlords

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2010 11:16:12 AM | message detail
By the way, after looking at all the old polls again, why is Dead Rising the favorite tonight? TWEWY outperformed it at every corner.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/9/2010 11:16:55 AM | message detail
What corners has TWEWY out performed Dead Rising at, exactly?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/9/2010 11:17:33 AM | message detail
Well, it didn't get quintupled by Gears of War and doubled by the Oblivion port.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/9/2010 11:19:51 AM | message detail
Whatever. I'm sticking with Dead Rising in my battle pick. There is just no reason for TWEWY to still be any sort of popular.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2010 11:20:07 AM | message detail
Well it's got more user ratings, better user ratings, better GotY poll results, and Neku probably beats Frank West. Plus the results so far favor RPGs over casual games.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/9/2010 11:20:42 AM | message detail
Damnit. I was so confident before the last two days on Dead Rising, too.

Son of a *****.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/9/2010 11:22:36 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3693
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3692

Hell, SHO might beat Frank West!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2010 11:22:41 AM | message detail
The only thing I can seem to find in favor of Dead Rising is that it's more night-oriented while TWEWY is more day-oriented, but it's not going to be a huge trends difference.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/9/2010 11:23:37 AM | message detail
Okay, Frank West being outdone by a Fate/Stay Night character seals the deal.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/9/2010 11:25:25 AM | message detail
I'll have you know that I'm going to put a curse on all three of you if Dead Rising wins tonight.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2010 11:25:43 AM | message detail
And this is just anecdotal evidence, but I feel like people just like TWEWY more than Dead Rising. Dead Rising definitely has fans, but it did get mixed reviews when it came out. TWEWY got almost universal praise.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/9/2010 11:30:39 AM | message detail
I fully expect to change to TWEWY then DR wins with 55%.

I blame you for this, KP!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2010 11:31:51 AM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2010 11:32:10 AM | message detail
Hey I just see this as being another Persona 3/Civ IV affair!

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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/9/2010 11:33:11 AM | message detail
Hey I just see this as being another Persona 3/Civ IV affair!

You mean where the better game loses? Damn, Dead rising has this then.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/9/2010 11:33:30 AM | message detail
The only thing I can seem to find in favor of Dead Rising is that it's more night-oriented while TWEWY is more day-oriented, but it's not going to be a huge trends difference.

I posted some Frank West trends in this post:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/57067897/631324463

Nothing really stood out in Frank West's trends besides the ASV and one match where Frank West clearly had a bad board vote.

As for TWEWY, we have these matches:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3253
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3248

Neku beasted the Asia vote, but Ganondorf was in that match and even Frog did worse in Asia than the overall result. Neku also does about 5% better in Oceania, about 1.3% better in Europe, and about 1% worse in North America.

In the case of Sho, he only did slightly worse in North America and Europe, about 2.6% better in Asia, and about 2.4% better in Oceania.

For Dead Rising, there is this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4019

About 3% better in Europe, 4% worse in Asia, and slightly worse in North America and Oceania. Granted, that's Dead Rising 2, but it should have the same trends as Dead Rising.
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FFDragon | Posted 11/9/2010 11:34:16 AM | message detail
I still have faith in Dead Rising tbqh
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/9/2010 11:44:47 AM | message detail
I have fanboyism in TWEWY. That's all you need.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/9/2010 11:45:26 AM | message detail
You know what match isn't getting anywhere near the debate it should?

Animal Crossing > World of Warcraft
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/9/2010 11:46:12 AM | message detail
Because there isn't really anything logical to debate about that match. It all boils down to how much faith you put into "LOL World of Warcraft."
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/9/2010 11:47:19 AM | message detail
After the Arthas match, I don't see how anyone can realistically see World of Warcraft ever getting 50% in a match here, especially something not anti voted (which is probably only reason it could beat GTA, since GTA has anti votes as well). Trust me, WoW will be seeing the level of Anti Votes Pokemon did from 2002-2004.
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WhiteLens | Posted 11/9/2010 11:47:46 AM | message detail
But Animal Crossing benefits from getting the Nintendo votes and joke votes.
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vcharon | Posted 11/9/2010 11:49:18 AM | message detail
If WoW is going to be getting Pokemon-level anti-votes from those years, I can only hope in a couple of years WoW is totally dominating every match it's in.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/9/2010 11:49:37 AM | message detail
World of Warcraft has every "logical" reason to win this match because there's no way Animal Crossing comes anywhere close to replicating what WoW did in the last Games Contest. Again, there's really nothing to debate other than "How much do you think WoW will get anti-voted?"
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/9/2010 11:50:49 AM | message detail
I've already switched to TWEWY in both my Oracle and Battle. Siding with the RPG in debated matches seems to be a good practice so far.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/9/2010 11:50:58 AM | message detail
I don't really have any faith in Animal Crossing because it got dead last in the Nintendo series poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3998

I'm sure it was probably crushed by the weight of a lot of SFF, but I think World of Warcraft could pull off a win. Animal Crossing benefits from a day match, but I don't think that's going to be enough.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/9/2010 11:53:04 AM | message detail
The one thing I can see going for WoW though is that it has more of a case for true "Game of the Decade" than most entrants in this contest, if you view it from importance, being a pop culture phenomenon, being the most played game of this decade, etc etc. It could get some votes if people vote like that. I guess its probably the favorite against Animal Crossing, though I still think AC can win that. I don't think theres any way its getting past Paper Mario though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/9/2010 11:53:09 AM | message detail
And I still might bank on AC/WoW (assuming I'm carrying a lot of points into that match). WoW could be much more hated than Halo in a 1v1, and while Animal Crossing doesn't have the name that SUPER MARIO Sunshine does, it should also have none of the hatred. AC is pretty liked across the board and could easily benefit from WoW hatred.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2010 11:54:11 AM | message detail
People forget that WoW actually did really well last contest. Got close to Oblivion, beat out Halo 2 and Tales of Symphonia. I don't buy that it's going to plummet in strength by switching formats.

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FFDragon | Posted 11/9/2010 11:54:36 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | Posted: 11/9/2010 2:50:49 PM | #426
I've already switched to TWEWY in both my Oracle and Battle. Siding with the RPG in debated matches seems to be a good practice so far.


Counterpoint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbHx_fnZIA

PS: If you also vote TWEWY yo... I am disowning you.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/9/2010 11:55:16 AM | message detail
Animal Crossing is well liked, huh?

That always felt like a big "who really cares, it's fun for about a month or two" game.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/9/2010 11:56:18 AM | message detail
I'm not committing an act that treasonous again. Dead Rising support and will be late for work to rally if it's close imo. ftw

FAAAAAANTASTIC
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TRE Public Account | Posted 11/9/2010 11:56:40 AM | message detail
After the Arthas match, I don't see how anyone can realistically see World of Warcraft ever getting 50% in a match here, especially something not anti voted (which is probably only reason it could beat GTA, since GTA has anti votes as well). Trust me, WoW will be seeing the level of Anti Votes Pokemon did from 2002-2004.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=946
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=969

If your opponent is weak enough, you can break 50%. This applies whether you get heavily anti-voted or are just plain horribly weak. The question isn't "Can WoW break 50%?" it's "Is Animal Crossing weak enough to let WoW break 50%?".
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/9/2010 11:57:28 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #432
Animal Crossing is well liked, huh?

That always felt like a big "who really cares, it's fun for about a month or two" game.


If the average GameFAQs voter put a month or two in AC, I'd feel REALLY good about its chances!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2010 11:58:36 AM | message detail
I can't see WoW anti-voting being significantly worse than Halo anti-voting. Halo 3 already beat SMS, which would easily beat Animal Crossing. WoW beat Halo 2 last year.

I don't know, it just seems almost open-and-shut to me.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/9/2010 11:58:45 AM | message detail
Man, Pokemon was REALLY hated back in the day. And now most people having it beating MM/WW/MGS3-4
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FFDragon | Posted 11/9/2010 11:58:45 AM | message detail
Good man.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/9/2010 11:59:15 AM | message detail
People forget that WoW actually did really well last contest. Got close to Oblivion, beat out Halo 2 and Tales of Symphonia. I don't buy that it's going to plummet in strength by switching formats.

Anti votes are a non factor in 4 ways. Can you tell me a game that would get more hate and anti votes in a 1v1 format than WoW? I can't think of one. Its got the Activision factor AND people like to hate on MMOs.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 11/9/2010 12:01:46 PM | message detail
Anti votes are a non factor in 4 ways. Can you tell me a game that would get more hate and anti votes in a 1v1 format than WoW? I can't think of one. Its got the Activision factor AND people like to hate on MMOs.

Do people even associate World of Warcraft with Activision?
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/9/2010 12:03:32 PM | message detail
I've switched my Oracle to TWEWY. I'm going to bank in the Battle Challenge though. I can't shake the feeling that we are going to see another upset soon, so I'd rather play it safe there. There's no way I'm getting anywhere near the Battle leaderboard, so I might as well do my best to beat Bacon.
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vcharon | Posted 11/9/2010 12:03:35 PM | message detail
The general person doesn't know a thing about Activision or Kotick, that's not a legitimate reason. You might end up with a couple of hundred anti-votes because of something like that.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/9/2010 12:08:13 PM | message detail
Do people even associate World of Warcraft with Activision?

Seeing as how its published by Acitvision, I would assume so.

The general person doesn't know a thing about Activision or Kotick, that's not a legitimate reason. You might end up with a couple of hundred anti-votes because of something like that.

Pre Kotick becoming horrible: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3564
Post Kotick becoming horrible: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3871

Yeah, I think they do know.

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voltch | Posted 11/9/2010 12:09:54 PM | message detail
yeah, banking on TWEWY too, man is that match tough...though i get the feeling dead rising will win in an ulti style blowout.
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vcharon | Posted 11/9/2010 12:10:20 PM | message detail
Let's keep in mind what other things have changed during that time frame.
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voltch | Posted 11/9/2010 12:16:10 PM | message detail
As much as people hate WoW, it's like seriously, where is the Animal Crossing base strength?

Paper Mario I can buy, but AC?????
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/9/2010 12:17:54 PM | message detail
I might not bank on the TWEWY match because from what I have found, the intangibles seem to favor TWEWY here. Now for Skies of Arcadia, that's a match which kind of scares me a bit more because I can't seem to find a single thing that could convince me that it will definitely beat Baldur's Gate 2. If I somehow get past TWEWY and Skies of Arcadia without losing my streak, I feel pretty confident in continuing my streak up until Halo 3/Halo (which I might bank). If I bank on Halo 3/Halo, I would be banking 86100 points.
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creativename | Posted 11/9/2010 12:21:04 PM | message detail
Haha, so many win posts in this topic since last night :)

From: NoDicePwn | #1709
I like how Vice City still finds a way to make a joke of itself even when its got a set path.


Especially humiliating considering how this is the one contest where Halo *didn't* make a joke of itself! (yet anyway...)

From: Kotetsu534 | #1710
From 46.5% on Melee, to this.


augh GTA, just augh. I had this stupid game at almost 69% in my Oracle.

From: LeonhartFour | #1960
The Resident Evil MORNING VOTE, ladies and gentlemen.


Haha :) Now we've seen everything.

From: KamikazePotato | #2001
I for one welcome our new Golden Sun overlords


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From: NoDicePwn | #2159
Anti votes are a non factor in 4 ways. Can you tell me a game that would get more hate and anti votes in a 1v1 format than WoW? I can't think of one. Its got the Activision factor AND people like to hate on MMOs.


Classic Albion.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/9/2010 12:25:23 PM | message detail
I have zero confidence in TWEWY or Dead Rising, so I'm banking on tonight's match. I'm only favoring TWEWY out of fanboyism.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/9/2010 12:28:28 PM | message detail
Like I said a few topics ago, if I get this one it's smooth sailing til CC/DQVIII and TTYD/Gears.

and I'll have a while to debate those.
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