GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 941
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/8/2010 10:56:20 AM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #149 Like this matters. It wouldn't have half its strength if it were PC-only. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/8/2010 10:57:35 AM | message detail |
Dragon
Age is mainly a PC game, though. The console version was just a watered
down port made easier and had features taken away, like the isometric
view. the console version is also the one most people played (I assume) --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/8/2010 10:58:19 AM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #151 It'd probably be more like 1/3. The console versions sold way more. --- DFF |
695924 | Posted 11/8/2010 10:58:30 AM | message detail |
Remember guys. KP is the same guy that said DS>MM9. Think about that for a second. --- lol opinions |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/8/2010 10:58:46 AM | message detail |
Eh,
maybe in terms of sales its a "Console game", but I just have a hard
time calling something a console game that was built ground up for the
PC and ported elsewhere at the last moment because EA demanded them to. --- Epona > any Western character in CB9! http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
creativename | Posted 11/8/2010 10:59:24 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #710 It's not letting me download. Can you email it to me? Thanks :) --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/8/2010 10:59:45 AM | message detail |
From: 695924 | #154 Yeah, I sold a match that ended up being 47--53. What a travesty! --- DFF |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/8/2010 11:00:05 AM | message detail |
Eh,
maybe in terms of sales its a "Console game", but I just have a hard
time calling something a console game that was built ground up for the
PC and ported elsewhere at the last moment because EA demanded them to. What you call it has nothing to do with how drastically different being on a console makes it from BG2. It is a game that is available on and sold a ****ton on consoles. --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/8/2010 11:00:39 AM | message detail |
Can your computer run .docx files? That might be it. --- DFF |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/8/2010 11:01:51 AM | message detail |
Though
I'm still kind of bitter about EA delaying Dragon Age 8 months to get
the console and PC versions out at the same time instead of releasing
the PC version first since it was already done, so I'm probably biased! --- Epona > any Western character in CB9! http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
creativename | Posted 11/8/2010 11:02:09 AM | message detail |
From: 695924 | #754 I don't know anything about that debate, but it got 47%. Nothing wrong with that. From: NoDicePwn | #755 For GameFAQs contest poll purposes, they are console games. Not really sure what the point is in arguing technicalities. They are not comparable to BG2. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/8/2010 11:02:17 AM | message detail |
Actually,
probably the only thing really giving me pause in taking DQ8>CC is
The Legend of Dragoon. I still have no idea how it did that well. --- DFF |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/8/2010 11:02:45 AM | message detail |
Eh,
maybe in terms of sales its a "Console game", but I just have a hard
time calling something a console game that was built ground up for the
PC and ported elsewhere at the last moment because EA demanded them to. For the record, I played DAO on PC, and I consider it a PC game first and foremost as well. The majority of the time, I forget that it's multiplat. But you can't allow your personal experiences with a game color your objective reasoning when it comes to these contests, otherwise you end up throwing away points. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 11:03:36 AM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #037 Uhhh...FFIX has jumped up nearly 4% from the board vote, and Board 8 loves FFIX. That's pretty impressive for T&T, I think. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/8/2010 11:04:14 AM | message detail |
So, if we're comparing these two polls: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1627 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1624 Assuming that SoA has fallen off moderately, and BG2 is stronger than Fallout 2... why wouldn't BG2 be the favorite to win? (It's also a night match.... I don't know if that matters at all.) I posted this two pages ago, can somebody address it please? |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/8/2010 11:05:04 AM | message detail |
Sent, creative. --- DFF |
creativename | Posted 11/8/2010 11:05:09 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #759 The rapidshare site is giving me something about flooding. After refreshing a bunch of times I finally got it working. Uploaded here: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/excel/user-ratings.txt --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/8/2010 11:06:59 AM | message detail |
The
only PC-centric game we've seen do well so far has been Deus Ex.
Warcraft lost, Civ lost, and Team Fortress 2 would've lost if not for a
fanbase that would have absolutely none of it (ie: hide votals all day,
and it loses). And Deus Ex still can still get killed by a
console-centric RPG next round, so it's not out of the woods yet. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/8/2010 11:08:36 AM | message detail |
And Deus Ex still can still get killed by a console-centric RPG next round, so it's not out of the woods yet. Well I'm fully expecting a 85% win for Fallout 3, since Fallout 3 is Deus Ex's absolute worst opponent. They're both first person shooter rpgs, but Fallout 3 is better in every way and incredibly more popular. Its gonna be a bad sff beatdown --- Epona > any Western character in CB9! http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
creativename | Posted 11/8/2010 11:10:13 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #802 I think largely because UC2 just ain't that strong. Even pre-contest I didn't really have any faith in UC2. I picked it to go to the division finals, but with no confidence at all. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/8/2010 11:12:25 AM | message detail |
The Legend of Dragoon still won a vote-in poll, and I have yet to find a single person on this board that likes it. --- DFF |
Advokaiser | Posted 11/8/2010 11:15:24 AM | message detail |
Remember guys. KP is the same guy that said DS>MM9. Think about that for a second. Yeah, he's also the same guy that said Halo 3 > SMS! Wait... that one was right... --- "I remember a time when someone called World of Warcraft 'World of WoW'" |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 11:15:29 AM | message detail |
Baldur's Gate vs. Civ IV: Who wins? Persona 3 vs. Skies of Arcadia: Who wins? --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
transcience | Posted 11/8/2010 11:16:16 AM | message detail |
late, but I'd probably pick Chrono Cross over God of War. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
ZFS | Posted 11/8/2010 11:17:22 AM | message detail |
Civ IV, Persona 3. --- There are no foreign lands. It is the traveler only who is foreign. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/8/2010 11:17:55 AM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #175 --- DFF |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/8/2010 11:18:49 AM | message detail |
Baldur's Gate vs. Civ IV: Who wins? Persona 3 vs. Skies of Arcadia: Who wins? For the first one, I'd take Baldurs Gate... it just seems like the type of Game that this site would like more, especially since its about as faq heavy of a game as you'd find. It would be close though For second, I'd take Persona 3. Persona 3 is actually still relevant these days, but going by how Vyse has declined every single poll he's been in since 2004, I'm almost scared to see how weak Skies of Arcadia is these days. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
cade | Posted 11/8/2010 11:20:07 AM | message detail |
Persona
3s big vote getter was Asia. Wow. More than 1,000 vote lead from Asia
and Civ 4 actually beat P3 in US, Canada, UK and Australia (ie all the
white English speaking countries). --- 79/80 Spring Contest 2005 |
creativename | Posted 11/8/2010 11:21:09 AM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #855 Yup. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
695924 | Posted 11/8/2010 11:21:31 AM | message detail |
From: Advokaiser | #172 Yea and I also took that. It was obvious. I'm sweating my TYD>Gears match a bit more than all these other random PC game vs jRPGs. BG2 is outdated. It has no strength. --- lol opinions |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/8/2010 11:24:13 AM | message detail |
For what its worth for Baldurs Gate 2 vs. Civ 4... Baldurs Gate 2 "My Games": 368 Own it Civilization IV "My Games: 376 Own it And Civilization IV you'd think would have a major advantage for that since its a much newer game. Not that "My Games" really mean much, if anything, but I do think it would be a close match. Horrible votals, though. --- http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_vegasdude.jpg |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/8/2010 11:29:27 AM | message detail |
so, nobody is going to answer my question? |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/8/2010 11:31:24 AM | message detail |
God of War would utterly destroy Chrono Cross. --- "There are no fingerprints deep under water, nothing to tie one to a crime And if you seek vengeance, all you need are instruments of pain." -Dethklok |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/8/2010 11:32:12 AM | message detail |
-.- that wasn't my question |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/8/2010 11:33:44 AM | message detail |
From: Greyfeld | #182 Fallout 2 (2004g) VS Skies of Arcadia (2004g) Fallout 2 has a strength of 13.90. Skies of Arcadia has a strength of 20.75. Skies of Arcadia wins with 66.51% of the vote! Lots of things wrong with that, but I'm not sure what you're trying to say either way. --- DFF |
Intanos VI | Posted 11/8/2010 11:34:55 AM | message detail |
I always thought Baldurs Gate 2 would have a similar strength to Diablo 2 in a contest setting. Then this poll came about... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2794 And i thought bleh. The more i think about it though, the more i reckon that on it's own without Diablo 2 in the poll it'd inherit a lot of it's strength. I know a lot of people who played BG2 played Diablo 2 and the same vice versa. I even think in that poll that Diablo 2 would have dominated Elder Scrolls even more if Baldurs Gate wasn't there. And you got to think that this was at the height of Elder Scrolls power because Oblivion hadn't been out long. I took Skies of Arcadia but i wouldn't be suprised if Baldurs Gate 2 wins comfortably and it'd definately beat any Ci game. --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
ZFS | Posted 11/8/2010 11:36:10 AM | message detail |
Because,
despite how weak Fallout 2 already is, it probably would do worse today
than it did back then. At the end of the day, you don't need to go
hunting for polls with different games trying to figure how this might
be relevant today. Skies of Arcadia and Baldur's Gate 2 are both going
to be weak games; one of them was two console platforms, one of them
being Nintendo, and the other was a PC game. If this were any other
site, Baldur's Gate 2 would have a clear advantage, but GameFAQs by and
large sticks to consoles and sticks to the familiar. Skies, at least,
is familiar, and it probably has a higher playrate and fanbase on the
site than BG2 currently does. That's reason enough for Skies to be a
favorite heading in, but "favorite" doesn't mean clear win. I wouldn't
be surprised if BG2 does pull it off, but everything we've seen this
contest indicates it won't quite have what it takes to pull it off. --- There are no foreign lands. It is the traveler only who is foreign. |
Intanos VI | Posted 11/8/2010 11:38:54 AM | message detail |
Also
worth mentioning that BG was stronger than Fallout before 3 came out
despite what i think suffering from SFF more than it. I was part of
both communities for a long time and i'm fairly sure that my assumption
is correct. --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
Big Bob | Posted 11/8/2010 11:41:08 AM | message detail |
I
like how everyone complained about how P3 and Civ IV were both
weaksauce and had no business winning matches...and then SoA/BGII are
going to be even weaker than that pair. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/Mach+Tornado.png |
Advokaiser | Posted 11/8/2010 11:41:27 AM | message detail |
I'm
actually considering banking on FFXII/Crisis Core instead of Skies/BG2.
Given Skies of Arcadia's atributes (RPG, 2 consoles, non-PC, etc...) it
MUST win. --- "I remember a time when someone called World of Warcraft 'World of WoW'" |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 11/8/2010 11:42:37 AM | message detail |
Greyfeld:
there's a massive, massive difference between 25% and 13%, even if Wind
Waker is a lot less strong than OoT. Zelda as a series is pretty
universally loved, but there are people that dislike it and will
antivote anything Link or Zelda, either out of fanboyism for
Microsoft/Sony or because they're fed up of Link winning the contests.
Say these people make up 5% of the vote, although to be honest it's
probably a bit more than that, in my opinion. That gives us SoA getting ~20% and FO2 getting ~8%. Now granted that OoT then >>>> WW then, and granted that SoA's probably dropped off, and granted that BG2 is almost certainly stronger than FO2... that's still going to be close, because not taking that into account (and obviously we should), FO2 would need to be 250% times as popular as it was to get the votes evened up. So yeah, BG2 has a good chance, but it's wrong to call it the favourite in my opinion. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/8/2010 11:45:24 AM | message detail |
Fallout 2 (2004g) VS Skies of Arcadia (2004g) Fallout 2 has a strength of 13.90. Skies of Arcadia has a strength of 20.75. Skies of Arcadia wins with 66.51% of the vote! Lots of things wrong with that, but I'm not sure what you're trying to say either way. What? Where the hell did you come up with those arbitrary numbers? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 11:47:18 AM | message detail |
From: Advokaiser | #190 FFXII isn't losing. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/8/2010 11:52:16 AM | message detail |
Greyfeld:
there's a massive, massive difference between 25% and 13%, even if Wind
Waker is a lot less strong than OoT. Zelda as a series is pretty
universally loved, but there are people that dislike it and will
antivote anything Link or Zelda, either out of fanboyism for
Microsoft/Sony or because they're fed up of Link winning the contests.
Say these people make up 5% of the vote, although to be honest it's
probably a bit more than that, in my opinion. That gives us SoA getting ~20% and FO2 getting ~8%. Now granted that OoT then >>>> WW then, and granted that SoA's probably dropped off, and granted that BG2 is almost certainly stronger than FO2... that's still going to be close, because not taking that into account (and obviously we should), FO2 would need to be 250% times as popular as it was to get the votes evened up. First off, you can't just make up arbitrary percentages like that, for the same reason that you can't say "Skies will win, because people X% of people will vote for not-BG2." You don't know the numbers, so any percentages you make up are, again, arbitrary. Secondly, we're looking at Skies' percentage doubling Fallout's percentage, when WW would probably nearly get doubled by OOT to begin with. And third, if you consider that BG2 is moderately more popular than Fallout, and has decreased slower than Skies (I think that's a safe bet, considering how much love BG2 continues to get within the PC community), it's not hard to see Baldur's Gate having a decent shot to win the match. Keeping in mind, of course, that these are just my current assumptions. If anybody can dismiss them for me, I'd be happy to listen. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/8/2010 11:54:01 AM | message detail |
Those are...the X-stats, man. --- DFF |
Big Bob | Posted 11/8/2010 11:55:31 AM | message detail |
Greyfield, you seem new here, so... http://thengamer.com/xstats/ That's where he's pulling those numbers from. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/Mach+Tornado.png |
FFDragon | Posted 11/8/2010 11:55:48 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 11/8/2010 8:14:51 AM | #001 ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 11/8/2010 11:57:24 AM | message detail |
Fallout
2's x-stat is calculated through OOT and FFVII, so it should be
accurate, one of the few games that contest for which that is true.
Skies of Arcadia.......I forget what it lost to. Depending on whether
it was on Melee's or Starcraft's side of Division 128, that would make
it overrated or super overrated. Unless it got SFF'd at some point in
the chain, anyway. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/8/2010 11:57:29 AM | message detail |
It
should be noted that no x-stats from that 128 division should EVER be
used though. Starcraft screwed that entire divisions xstats up, making
everything look way stronger than it is. --- http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Big Bob | Posted 11/8/2010 11:59:19 AM | message detail |
SoA / WW SFF? Well, they're both Gamecube games, so I guess that's possible... --- http://card.mygamercard.net/Mach+Tornado.png |
