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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/8/2010 12:09:09 AM | message detail
Cloud struggled against Samus and Snake for hours. FFVII loses to OoT but shreds everything else.
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pjbasis | Posted 11/8/2010 12:09:26 AM | message detail
Heh I saw that Dead Rising 2 poll and I changed my mind to polls don't mean anything.

Besides VCII is a psp game. Who's looking forward to that?

The real mystery is why VCIII is also for psp.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/8/2010 12:10:05 AM | message detail
Alright so at this point we got DR > TWEWY, CC > DQ8 and TTYD > Gears.

Let's do this. ExTha with 94k come UC2/SFIV

Book it.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/8/2010 12:10:08 AM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #402
Heh I saw that Dead Rising 2 poll and I changed my mind to polls don't mean anything.

Besides VCII is a psp game. Who's looking forward to that?

The real mystery is why VCIII is also for psp.


Maybe the people who put the other PSP game as # 1 in the same poll

for god's sake at least argue same console sff or something before laughing at the psp.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/8/2010 12:10:35 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #403
Alright so at this point we got DR > TWEWY, CC > DQ8 and TTYD > Gears.

Let's do this. ExTha with 94k come UC2/SFIV

Book it.


fun fact: If that goes as planned, I'd have 129k or so at us2/sfiv iirc.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/8/2010 12:11:12 AM | message detail
I really think Link is the only character that is stronger than his strongest game.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/8/2010 12:11:16 AM | message detail
oh, misread, 109k or so
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/8/2010 12:11:59 AM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #405
fun fact: If that goes as planned, I'd have 129k or so at us2/sfiv iirc.


Well then.

Good luck to you!
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Achromatic | Posted 11/8/2010 12:12:09 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #406
I really think Link is the only character that is stronger than his strongest game.


Give me Mario. and Samus.

.. See, series characters that are iconic and low on anti votes are going to be getting the nod here <_<

...sonic
snake
ryu
dante


....

really now extha <_<
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/8/2010 12:13:22 AM | message detail
Okay yeah you got me on that.

I'm going to bed now after that one. >.<
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/8/2010 12:13:36 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #406
I really think Link is the only character that is stronger than his strongest game.


You forgot all the action characters.

Dante
Kratos
Hayabusa
Probably Bayonetta
MAYBE FRANK WEST?!

Speaking of ol' Frank (kinda), Dead Rising 2 for the 360 has already fallen to #44 on the FAQ list. The PS3 version is almost off the top 100. That's quite the fall for a recent release.
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pjbasis | Posted 11/8/2010 12:13:40 AM | message detail
I was just rippin' on the psp.

I think BBS is gonna be the anomaly of all popular psp games, though.
It'll prove that having a great reception will still make you popular even on the psp, where others like Dissidia and Crisis Core have/will fail.

Gah, I'm still taking TWEWY > Dead Rising though. I can't see it losing!
Achromatic | Posted 11/8/2010 12:17:13 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #411
You forgot all the action characters.

Dante
Kratos
Hayabusa
Probably Bayonetta
MAYBE FRANK WEST?!

Speaking of ol' Frank (kinda), Dead Rising 2 for the 360 has already fallen to #44 on the FAQ list. The PS3 version is almost off the top 100. That's quite the fall for a recent release.


FAQs by pure numbers are a bad way to judge cross-genre, I only pulled up persona/civ because all of the recent persona games were beating civ 5, which made me change my battle pick <_<

Random stuff for CC/DQ

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=366

LOL CCrespect!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728

LOL CC- oh wait, thats double what dq8 would have done there.

on the other hand

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2247

that is... interesting. Second only to god of war.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 11/8/2010 12:19:45 AM | message detail
Chrono Cross won't have any problems with DQ8. FFIX was the absolute worst opponent for it to have in that match, as the games were released right next to each other. It might not seem that popular these days after some vocal Chrono fans have trashed it, but the game was huge back then. Rivaling FFIX in both popularity and GotY talk.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/8/2010 12:20:49 AM | message detail

From: Lieutenant Kettch | #414
Chrono Cross won't have any problems with DQ8. FFIX was the absolute worst opponent for it to have in that match, as the games were released right next to each other. It might not seem that popular these days after some vocal Chrono fans have trashed it, but the game was huge back then. Rivaling FFIX in both popularity and GotY talk.


I think that'd be "chrono trigger"

I mean dont say absolute unles you mean it.

I have CC in my bracket but I fdo think that given the trend of this contest DQ winning would not surprise me.
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pjbasis | Posted 11/8/2010 12:21:02 AM | message detail
You know what else people said was really popular 10 years ago?


Wrestling.





jk CC gon win
Achromatic | Posted 11/8/2010 12:21:56 AM | message detail
The thing with CC is ten years ago really doesnt matter, also the fact is DQ has gotten more popular in America, so it just depends on if the voters feel like hating CC that day.
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Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 11/8/2010 1:41:19 AM | message detail
This might've already been said, but as a member of the UK this poll is a depressing reminder of how little our votes matter in the grand scheme of things. Civ IV is up 59-41, but America's long-renowned fascination with dating sims is ruining everything...
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voltch | Posted 11/8/2010 1:46:17 AM | message detail
I voted P3!
it must now be 58-42!
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/8/2010 1:46:49 AM | message detail
Ah, so it's the UK that are keeping Europe down.

In other news, Europe now has a lower Persona percentage than any other continent, with the exception of Oceania.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 2:49:33 AM | message detail
Man, look at these western games starting to take over the site, dominating these JRPGs.

Glad I switched to Persona 3 in my Battle Entry, at least.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 3:01:19 AM | message detail
I know people keep bringing up "Neku lost to Laharl!" and everything, but are we really confident Frank West would beat Laharl?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3692

I mean, the dude lost to LFF'd Diddy Kong and nearly lost to Olimar, who got beaten by Banjo the last time he was in a contest. Plus, he lost to a Visual Novel character!

LOL 12-ways and all, but man, Frank West ain't anything special either, and while Dead Rising 2 just came out, it doesn't appear like it was very well received or cared about, so I don't know if it means much of anything here.

(Neku beats Laharl if he was the top option, by the way!)
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shane15 | Posted 11/8/2010 3:03:30 AM | message detail
Persona 3 FTW.The best game is clearly winning today. :D
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 3:07:46 AM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Fire Emblem | Tony Hawk 2 | Votes
0:05 | 67.28% | 32.72% | 712
1:00 | 64.66% | 35.34% | 7308
2:00 | 65.53% | 34.47% | 6083
3:00 | 65.09% | 34.91% | 5454
4:00 | 63.44% | 36.56% | 4797
5:00 | 64.92% | 35.08% | 4541
6:00 | 65.12% | 34.88% | 4191
7:00 | 62.73% | 37.27% | 3636
8:00 | 65.03% | 34.97% | 3377
9:00 | 64.90% | 35.10% | 3225
10:00 | 65.05% | 34.95% | 3024
11:00 | 62.59% | 37.41% | 2791
12:00 | 63.58% | 36.42% | 2433

Not a lot going on here. Fire Emblem starts high with the board vote and settles down pretty quickly. Not much shifting after that, although Tony Hawk does pretty well in the last couple hours at night.
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MarquessLaus | Posted 11/8/2010 3:13:23 AM | message detail
none of the FF leads are stronger than their games.

Vincent>DoC though, I'd argue the same of Zack.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 3:16:27 AM | message detail
Well, we're talking mainline games.

And I can't believe people think Cloud would beat FFVII. I mean, not that character vs. games comparisons are very valid in the first place, but come on. Cloud is not bigger than FFVII. The only FF lead in a mainline game who would have a shot is Squall.

Oh, and TWEWY is probably bigger than Neku. A lot of people don't like Neku because he's a pretty big jerk for a large portion of the game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 3:19:01 AM | message detail
And now I can't decide if I want to bank on TWEWY/Dead Rising or not!
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pjbasis | Posted 11/8/2010 3:22:18 AM | message detail
I'm not banking.

Don't know what that tells you.
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/8/2010 3:51:46 AM | message detail
Man RPG's really win here...And in this match people don't vote for the fun and better game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 4:18:45 AM | message detail
Also, Persona 3 is down to less than 52% in Europe. It's winning every region though, and killing in South America and Asia.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 4:29:59 AM | message detail
Civ IV's rockin' this morning vote pretty hard, too.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 11/8/2010 4:40:02 AM | message detail
Mario Kart Wii's beating PW. Right?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 4:42:03 AM | message detail
Yeah, why wouldn't it?
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shane15 | Posted 11/8/2010 4:46:12 AM | message detail
I picked PW in that match because it was at night >_>
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/8/2010 4:49:50 AM | message detail
*wakes up, sees poll results for the first time*

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Intanos VI | Posted 11/8/2010 4:50:25 AM | message detail
Civ IV's rockin' this morning vote pretty hard, too.

I thought that, it gaining 0.05 every update. It's not rocking anything though, the leads staying pretty much exactly the same. It's maybe gaining 1 vote an update. The votals going up but they are getting pretty much the same amount of votes.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/8/2010 4:53:51 AM | message detail
I can't tell if these stalls are Civ rocking when P3 is slowing down or P3 just dying while Civ stays the same.

Either way, P3's got this easy.
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azuarc | Posted 11/8/2010 5:12:14 AM | message detail
I said last night before going to bed that we would see where things were when I got up around 8:00. Well, it's 8 now and...dammit! I guess I gotta wave the white flag on this one. Completely not the result I expected. I knew it would be tight, but 7% difference isn't tight enough. That's like Persona consistently getting 8 votes to Civ's 7. Civ might bounce back some since we still have a third of the poll left, but 1500 votes is pretty insurmountable. I was hoping to see maybe 300 tops when I got up. I guess I can consider myself eliminated from the battle bracket at this point.

Oh well. Thank you for hanging tall, Wyoming.
charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2010 5:15:47 AM | message detail
It is kind of weird to see both North America and Europe below the actual percent.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 11/8/2010 5:23:28 AM | message detail
Out of curiousity whats the logic of Chrono Cross > Dragon Quest? Must say I was surprised to see the former as the favourite for that.
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pjbasis | Posted 11/8/2010 5:28:22 AM | message detail
Chrono Cross is more popular than some people would like.
charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2010 5:39:24 AM | message detail
Civilization IV is slowly making a comeback as Canada flipped not too long ago. It may have had a chance in a day match.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 11/8/2010 5:52:10 AM | message detail
Given that it was never released in Europe or Australia, and I'd imagine DQ is king in Asia it'd take some doing for it to overcome that kind of deficit, I mean Europe and Australia alone are 20% of the voters. I'd reckon CC would need 65% or so of the share from North America to pull a majority, does anyone think it's "that" popular?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 5:52:39 AM | message detail

From: __Smurf__ | #440
Out of curiousity whats the logic of Chrono Cross > Dragon Quest? Must say I was surprised to see the former as the favourite for that.


"Chrono" plus Dragon Quest not being very popular in America.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2010 5:58:29 AM | message detail
Match XL: (2) Final Fantasy IX vs. (15) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations

Information

Name: Final Fantasy IX
Year: 2000
Previous Performance: SpC2k9 – 4th in round 2

Name: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations
Year: 2007
Previous Performance: N/A

Analysis

One Phoenix Wright game getting crushed wasn’t enough for fans so now it has two Phoenix Wright games. Final Fantasy IX may be a tier below the top games, but it finished with a decent score and it should cruise this half division before running into its younger brother.

Phoenix Wright was barely able to reach the bracket, winning a close match against Left 4 Dead 2 and we all know what happened to that game. I’m also fairly certain that this game will be much weaker than the original and given its performance last contest that can’t mean good things.

Final Fantasy IX didn’t really have much of a chance to shine last contest as it ran into Final Fantasy VIII in the second round, but it was able to easily defeat Half-Life and it held well against Ocarina of Time. While the game is going to get SFF to death at the division finals it does have three rounds of it looking good, crushing two fodder games and a decent game.

Final Fantasy XII was able to win quite easy over Phoenix Wright which makes me believe that Final Fantasy IX has a great chance at breaking 70% over this Phoenix Wright game. I know the board loves the series, but does the series really need two representatives getting crushed?

charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy IX > Phoenix Wright: AA T&T

charmander6000’s Prediction: Final Fantasy IX wins, 71.83% - 28.17%

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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/8/2010 6:00:30 AM | message detail
I really hate today's result, and I wish Civ4 could be put against some really bad black sheep of a popular franchise to make up.

Tell me that Civ4 would double Other M at this site, please!

Also for no reason I'm checking up how many games in each division and in the entire bracket were released in '07 or later.

North: 8
Northeast: 7
East: 4
Southeast: 6
South: 5
Southwest: 8
West: 3
Northwest: 3
Total: 47/128
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2010 6:05:37 AM | message detail
If it makes you feel better it could have won a day match. Canada has flipped and the US will probably flip before the end of the poll.

California is still supporting Persona 3 58/42
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/8/2010 6:06:10 AM | message detail
Yeah, this could possibly be another match where the results flip based on the day/night.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/8/2010 6:08:57 AM | message detail
Lol Civ4 the day microbeast.

So yeah silly discussion, but this theoretical match:

Civilization IV vs. Metroid: Other M

Does Civ4 even break 60%?
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/8/2010 6:10:19 AM | message detail
If by Civ4 you mean Metroid then maybe.
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