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Maximus40 | Posted 11/4/2010 2:43:22 PM | message detail
When Kingdom crap beats Dawn of Sorrow, it's time to throw the towel...
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 2:43:45 PM | message detail

From: Maximus40 | #301
When Kingdom crap beats Dawn of Sorrow, it's time to throw the towel...


See ya.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/4/2010 2:44:16 PM | message detail
crono/vincent in mario samus crono vincent was the most goddamned frustrating thing in the world

most blatant stuffing ever
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 2:44:20 PM | message detail
...they've got to have SOMETHING to set em apart.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/4/2010 2:44:55 PM | message detail
er samus vincent crono pikachu whatever
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 2:46:03 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #304
...they've got to have SOMETHING to set em apart.


I'm sure the fanbase clearly prefers one over the other, and some people like one but not the other.

But they looked equal to me last year, and nothing's really changing my mind this year.

Honestly, KH1 vs. KH2 is probably the one interseries matchup I am the most clueless about. I really have no idea who the fanbase prefers.
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 2:47:09 PM | message detail
well that and the MGS3/4.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 2:48:32 PM | message detail
Nah, I'm pretty sure the hierarchy goes 1 > 4 > 3 > 2, MGS's feels pretty clear cut, especially #1 and #4. 3's chances of being stronger than 4 aren't THAT great, honestly, despite the fact that MGS3 got the 1 seed and MGS4 didn't.
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 2:49:25 PM | message detail
MGS1 ahead of the rest sure, but 3 vs 4 is one i'm struggling with.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 2:50:21 PM | message detail
You won't find many MGS3 fanboys who love the game more than I do, and I'm pretty sure MGS4's going to beat it.
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 2:52:12 PM | message detail
tsk, backing MGS3 here!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 2:52:57 PM | message detail
You're also backing DMC3 > Prime, so you seem to have this odd obsession with the number 3!
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ZFS | Posted 11/4/2010 2:53:26 PM | message detail
Head to head, I'd be very surprised to find MGS3 to be the less popular option than MGS4, especially as it stands today.

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lightsout06 | Posted 11/4/2010 2:53:26 PM | message detail
MSG3 is the best in the series

3>2>1>4
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 2:54:35 PM | message detail
MGS3 vs. MGS4 feels like Melee vs. Brawl. One of these games is clearly preferred on Board 8 and has louder fans on the internet, but...
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 2:55:01 PM | message detail
so what if i backed Sonic 3 previously!
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ZFS | Posted 11/4/2010 2:55:18 PM | message detail
I wouldn't even bring board 8 into the mix here. MGS3's popularity extends far beyond this board.

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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 2:55:23 PM | message detail
I ain't backing brawl, which is 3rd in the series!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 2:56:43 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #317
I wouldn't even bring board 8 into the mix here. MGS3's popularity extends far beyond this board.


Eh, MGS3 never really had a super impressive performance in the last Games Contest either, other than nearly beating RE4. It let some other games get too close to it for me to think this is clearly stronger than MGS4.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 2:57:48 PM | message detail
And then of course, MGS4 went out and beat RE4 easily the next round anyway.

But you can chalk up all kinds of weird factors into either match, so who knows.
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 2:58:05 PM | message detail
MGS3 is a game i reckon is gonna keep going up in strength thanks to the whole big boss movement kojima's currently in line with.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/4/2010 2:58:25 PM | message detail
I have 2 beating 4.

<_> <_<
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 2:59:01 PM | message detail
MGS4 used nmumber SFF on RE4, clearly....also, I wouldn't put too much faith in 4way numbers.
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 11/4/2010 2:59:18 PM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #322
I have 2 beating 4.

<_> <_<


I was tempted to do this
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 2:59:24 PM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #322
I have 2 beating 4.

<_> <_<


No offense, but that's a really stupid pick. That has zero chance of happening.
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transients | Posted 11/4/2010 2:59:31 PM | message detail
I'm not sure how much strength plays in here. this'll be which the fanbase prefers.
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 3:00:03 PM | message detail
2 over 4.......i know old games do well, but srsly/
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 3:00:49 PM | message detail

From: transients | #326
I'm not sure how much strength plays in here. this'll be which the fanbase prefers.


Well, if MGS3 and 4 looked equal in strength, I'd agree. I think MGS4 had a clear edge last time though. Like I said, the main argument I buy is that MGS4 has gradually been dropping out of favor with the fanbase, which is possible, and MGS3 has grown in favor with the fanbase over time.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/4/2010 3:01:23 PM | message detail

From: transients | #326
I'm not sure how much strength plays in here. this'll be which the fanbase prefers.


This isn't KH1/2 or Melee/Brawl coinflip. 4 was a clear step above 3 last contest. Wouldn't that basically say what the fanbase prefers?

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ZFS | Posted 11/4/2010 3:01:53 PM | message detail
Indirectly? It's probably not too much different. Directly? I don't know of any place where a fanbase of MGS fans would ever prefer MGS4 to MGS3. That game has gone through a serious cooling period over the past couple of years, and I don't think last year is an indication of how it will do this year. I believe someone here linked to a poll showing FFX and MGS4 aren't that far apart -- FFX would beat MGS4 with little trouble if you put them head-to-head in this contest, I think. MGS4 isn't a weak game or anything, but again, against another game in its series that carries far more weight with fans, I'd be surprised to see it win. MGS4 strikes me as a game that's getting far more credit than it deserves, but I guess it's hard to argue with last year's results right now. I'll just say I very much doubt we see the same game this year.

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Achromatic | Posted 11/4/2010 3:02:01 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #325
No offense, but that's a really stupid pick. That has zero chance of happening.


no offense, but you dont win these contests by making only the\ "smart" upsets that half the board picked.

If I am wrong hey, fine, but it isnt as if you are going to be winning this either.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 3:02:47 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #330
MGS4 strikes me as a game that's getting far more credit than it deserves


I kinda feel the same way about MGS3, honestly. It hasn't proven anything to me either.
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ZFS | Posted 11/4/2010 3:04:25 PM | message detail
Maybe. I guess it depends on how strong we're talking with MGS3. I don't believe it's a contender to win, or that it will threaten FFX, but I also don't believe MGS4 is any better there either.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 3:04:28 PM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #331
no offense, but you dont win these contests by making only the\ "smart" upsets that half the board picked.

If I am wrong hey, fine, but it isnt as if you are going to be winning this either.


It's really got nothing to do with winning. It's just a stupid pick.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3507
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3466
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3488

No amount of "LOL 4-ways" is making up that big of a difference.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/4/2010 3:05:12 PM | message detail
I am not seeing the problem here.
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transients | Posted 11/4/2010 3:05:47 PM | message detail
eh, something about MGS4 doesn't sit right with me. I feel like it has the lowest playership amongst the four games due to being on the PS3. I wonder if that hurts it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 3:06:00 PM | message detail
Well, considering you have MGS2 > MGS4, that much is obvious.
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 3:06:26 PM | message detail
Am i the only one who believes that a weaker game in a series can beat a stronger game in the same series cos the fanbase likes one more.
What i mean is that say MGS4 has 100 hardcore fans+ 50 votes cos of it's broad casual appeal, while MGS3 has those same 100 hardcore fans but only 30 votes come from casuals of the franchise.
In the head to head say it's a 80-20 split in favour of MGS3 amongst the hardcore, wouldn't that lead MGS3 to win over MGS4?

I just think MGS4 looks stronger overall cos it was a system killer app, but in the head to head, the hardcore fans prolly like MGS3 more.
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 11/4/2010 3:06:30 PM | message detail
yeah I still think it's possible for 2 to upset 4. Not a high chance but it's very possible
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Achromatic | Posted 11/4/2010 3:06:37 PM | message detail
See, and hey you may be right you are a smart dude, and I always miss my fair share of matches.

but

"no amount of lol 4 ways"

you underestimate how much I am willing to l o l the 4 ways/
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/4/2010 3:07:40 PM | message detail
Hey Leonheart wasn't the big difference on a 12 hours match RSE vs GTA IV?GTA IV was winning with around 380 votes and it lost for about 900 votes.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/4/2010 3:08:04 PM | message detail
also I have missed a lot of matches, but most of them have at least broken the way I expected. RE5 didnt beat ToS, but it was closer than a lot of people thought it would be. RSE didnt lose to GTAIV, but god damn did it try to for a long time there. I am not an expert, but I am not wildly off

(except no mercy)

(I call my fanboyism pick <_<)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 3:08:20 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #338
Am i the only one who believes that a weaker game in a series can beat a stronger game in the same series cos the fanbase likes one more.


Am I the only one who believes that if the fanbase likes one more, it'd be stronger than the other one to begin with?

From: Achromatic | #340
you underestimate how much I am willing to l o l the 4 ways/


I don't really care how much you personally LOL 4-ways! It's not going to make MGS2 win!

Or even come that close. MGS2 being the weakest MGS game is one of those "common sense" picks.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/4/2010 3:09:17 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #343
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Am I the only one who believes that if the fanbase likes one more, it'd be stronger than the other one to begin with?

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I don't really care how much you personally LOL 4-ways! It's not going to make MGS2 win!

Or even come that close. MGS2 being the weakest MGS game is one of those "common sense" picks.


I will sig bet you that MGS2 gets at least 48%

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 3:09:52 PM | message detail
Eh, it feels wrong to take a sucker's bet, but sure, why not.
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Achromatic | Posted 11/4/2010 3:10:22 PM | message detail
1 month sound ok?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 3:10:36 PM | message detail
Yeah, that's fine.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/4/2010 3:10:56 PM | message detail
Well, just 'til the end of the contest, because of the Guru.
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voltch | Posted 11/4/2010 3:11:03 PM | message detail
MGS:Ghost Babel vs MGS Portable ops gogogogo
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ZFS | Posted 11/4/2010 3:11:21 PM | message detail
Whoa, I dunno about MGS2 getting 48% on MGS4. Far more people played MGS2 than MGS4, but I don't think I'd peg MGS4 that low.

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