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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

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Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.
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Kingdom Hearts II > Kingdom Hearts
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

thought that was pretty obvious Leon
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Chrono Trigger > Super Smash Bros. Melee

Make CT face the winner of this contest in the Bonus Match, please! There's no particular reason it should be CT, but it would make me very happy!
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

From: red sox 777 | #005
Chrono Trigger > Super Smash Bros. Melee

Make CT face the winner of this contest in the Bonus Match, please! There's no particular reason it should be CT, but it would make me very happy!

You're just asking to get hurt, man!
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No chance. KH has way too many fanboys. Bioshcok gets 40% easily though.
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From: red sox 777 | #005
Chrono Trigger > Super Smash Bros. Melee

Make CT face the winner of this contest in the Bonus Match, please! There's no particular reason it should be CT, but it would make me very happy!

CT has absolutely no voting power over nintendo. FFX/CT would be very interesting and it would have a shot at winning.
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That would be such a great Christmas Eve. Ah.......the sweet sound of a 5000 vote lead built before 3 PM.
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From: red sox 777 | #009
That would be such a great Christmas Eve. Ah.......the sweet sound of a 5000 vote lead built before 3 PM.

Yeah, FFX could probably manage that since it'd have a night vote that could rival CT's.
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Chrono Trigger has actually defeated 7 out of 8 Nintendo games it has ever faced, every one of them except Mario 64.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

Too bad 4 of those wins were in 2004, and the 2 it beat in 2009 were Earthbound and Yoshi's Island!
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

and most of those are when it was actually strong! and then stuff like Yoshi's Island which doesn't even count

man, it lost to Mario 64 despite another Mario game in the poll.
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And it lost to Mario 64 again despite GoldenEye in the poll!

(No, FFVII doesn't really affect CT much, never has)
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Yeah, FFX could probably manage that since it'd have a night vote that could rival CT's.

With the low votals we're getting, probably neither game ever gets up to a 5000 lead in the whole match with those two.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

Just did a count in my head, I think CT is 18-20 all-time against Nintendo. I don't think you'll find anything else with a large sample size with a record that good against Nintendo (maybe FFVII). I'd rather CT face Nintendo than Square because all its most impressive matches in the past have come against Nintendo, and most of its painful defeats have come against others (Knuckles, Sonic, Vincent).
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From: red sox 777 | #016
(maybe FFVII)

I think the answer is "Definitely" FFVII.

Not many other games have had a chance to get that large of a sample size anyway. Maybe FFX, whose track record admittedly isn't great in that department.
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Actually, counting with 4-ways is just messed up, so let's do it with just 1v1s:

FFVII vs. Nintendo: 17-9
Chrono Trigger vs. Nintendo: 10-8

Glad to see CT still has its winning record against Nintendo despite the 2010 contest.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

In fact, let's add it up:

2002:
Cloud defeats Fox and Pikachu, loses to Mario (2-1)
Sephiroth defeats Samus, loses to Link (1-1)
Aerith faced no one from Nintendo

3-2 overall

2003:
Cloud defeats Bowser and Link (2-0)
Sephiroth defeats Mario (1-0)
Aerith again faces no one from Nintendo

6-2 overall

Sp2K4:
FFVII defeats OoT and Melee (2-0)

8-2 overall

2004:
Cloud defeats Samus and loses to Link (1-1)

9-3 overall

Sp2K5:
Sephiroth defeats Bowser and Ganondorf (2-0)

11-3 overall

2005:
Tifa defeats Luigi (1-0)
Sephiroth defeats Mario and loses to Link (1-1)
Cloud loses to Link (0-1)

13-5 overall

2006:
Tifa defeats Peach and loses to Samus (1-1)
Aerith loses to Zelda (0-1)
Vincent defeats Ganondorf (1-0)
Cloud loses to Link (0-1)
I won't count the Battle Royale since it's too convoluted

15-8 overall

2007:
Sephiroth defeats Peach, Meta Knight (twice), Fox (twice), Mario (twice), loses to Link (twice) and Samus (7-3)
Cloud defeats Samus (twice) and loses to Link (twice) (2-2)
Vincent defeats Zelda (twice), loses to Link (thrice), and loses to Mario (2-4)
Aerith once again faces no one from Nintendo

26-17 overall

2008:
Zack defeats Wario (twice), loses to Link (thrice), loses to Mario (2-4)
Vincent defeats Falco (twice), defeats Ganondorf, defeats Pikachu, loses to Samus (twice) (4-2)
Cloud defeats Midna (twice), Mewtwo (thrice), defeats Kirby, loses to Link (6-1)
Sephiroth defeats Kirby, loses to Kirby (1-1)
Tifa faces no one from Nintendo

39-25 overall

2009:
FFVII defeats Mario Kart (twice), Star Fox 64, Super Mario RPG, Super Mario 64 (twice), LTTP (thrice), Mario 3, Mario World, loses to OoT (11-1)

50-26 overall

2010:
Cloud defeats Ridley, Captain Falcon, Samus, loses to Link (3-1)
Sephiroth defeats Marth, Missingno (2-0)

55-27 overall (67.07% win percentage)

Number of losses not to Link: 9 (and all of those are either to Mario, Samus, or OoT, except for Sephy's loss to Kirby in 2008 and Aerith's loss to Zelda in 2006)

So really, FFVII is 55-9 against non-Link competition.
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You mean the contest where Crono broke the N9 in 1v1's and where all three CT characters failed to get out of the first round, right?
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Princess Anri is a horrible user.

Nice tally. Well, it's no shame for CT to lose to FFVII in this area. Either way, I'm not afraid of CT facing Nintendo- the Mario 64 match is the only time CT has ever embarassed itself against Nintendo. Usually, even in losing it puts up respectable performances against Nintendo.
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From: red sox 777 | #021
the Mario 64 match is the only time CT has ever embarassed itself against Nintendo.

Losing to Sandbag and Missingno is pretty embarrassing.
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Wow look at these match totals.
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What I don't want CT is face is Sonic- tons of opportunity for embarrassment, very little for gain.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

So after reading that, how is Zelda against Square opposition? And by extension non-FF7 Square?
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Losing to Sandbag and Missingno is pretty embarrassing.

I always thought Sandbag had a good chance of winning that match. Missingno.....well, it was embarrassing in the sense that it was embarrassing for Link to lose to L-Block.
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From: LeonhartFour | #019
Number of losses not to Link: 9 (and all of those are either to Mario, Samus, or OoT, except for Sephy's loss to Kirby in 2008 and Aerith's loss to Zelda in 2006)

So really, FFVII is 55-9 against non-Link competition.

You'd have to remove Cloud > Link 2003, FF7 > OoT 2004, and FF7 > LttP 2009 x3 from the wins, rendering it 50-9, still an impressive number.

There's also FF7/OoT 2009 1v1, though that's more of a bonus match and I guess that's why you didn't include it.

If anyone's really bored, a full-on Nintendo vs Square count would be neat.
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Wylvane
th3l3fty is a horrible user.

Haven't counted it, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo dominates a full Nintendo vs. Square tally. I know it's been way ahead in the 1v1 tally since 2005 (was very close before that).
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

Let's see, Zelda...

2002:
Link defeats Sephiroth (1-0)

1-0 overall

2003:
Link defeats Magus, loses to Cloud (1-1)
Ganondorf defeats Tidus, loses to Magus (1-1)

3-2 overall

Sp2K4:
LTTP defeats FFVI, loses to CT (1-1)
OoT loses to FFVII (0-1)
Zelda 1 and Wind Waker face no Square games

4-4 overall

2004:
Link defeats Crono and Cloud (2-0)

6-4 overall

Sp2K5:
Ganondorf defeats Ansem, loses to Sephiroth (1-1)

7-5 overall

2005:
Ganondorf defeats Auron, Yuna (2-0)
Zelda defeats Vivi (1-0)
Link defeats Cloud, Sephiroth (2-0)

12-5 overall

Sp2K6:
Zelda defeats Final Fantasy (1-0)

13-5 overall

2006:
Tingle loses to Sora (0-1)
Zelda defeats Terra, Aerith, Yuna (3-0)
Ganondorf loses to Vincent (0-1)
Link defeats Cloud (1-0)

17-7 overall

2007:
Zelda loses to Vincent (twice) (0-2)
Link defeats Vincent (thrice), Crono, Sephiroth (twice), Cloud (twice) (8-0)
Ganondorf defeats Yuna (1-0)
Midna loses to Frog (0-1)

26-10

2008:
Link defeats Zack (thrice), Zidane (twice), Crono (twice), Cloud (8-0)
Ganondorf defeats Frog (twice), loses to Vincent (2-1)
Zelda faces no one from Square
Midna loses to Cloud (twice) (0-2)

36-13

2009:
LTTP defeats FFVI (twice), loses to FFVII (thrice), defeats FFX (3-3)
Link's Awakening loses to FFVI (thrice) (0-3)
Majora's Mask faces nothing from Square
OoT defeats Chrono Cross, FFIX (twice), FFVIII (twice), FFX (thrice), FFVII (twice) (10-0)
Wind Waker faces nothing from Square
Twilight Princess defeats FFXII, KHII (2-0)

51-19

I forgot to include FFVII's bonus match loss to OOT in its tally, so add one more loss there.

2010:
Link defeats Cloud (1-0)
Midna loses to Sora (0-1)
Zelda defeats Jecht (1-0)
Ganondorf faces no one from Square

53-20 (72.60% winning percentage)

Total number of Link wins: 24 (45.28% of their wins) + 10 wins from OoT = 64.15% of total wins from those two
Sora's record against Zelda: 2-0 (LOL Tingle and Midna)
Record against FFVII: 20-12 (Number of those wins from Link and OoT: 17)
Record against non-FFVII Square: 33-8
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From: Not_Wylvane | #028
If anyone's really bored, a full-on Nintendo vs Square count would be neat.

This was actually done a while ago (which I initially started, leading to a Wiki page being made), and there's been a running tally of it ever since.

Ask, and ye shall receive!

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_vs_Square

I think everything on this page is up to date, but if I'm missing anything, let me know!
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Fallout 3 would beat Wind Waker? maaaaaaaaaaaybe. but probably not.
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From: transients | #032
Fallout 3 would beat Wind Waker? maaaaaaaaaaaybe. but probably not.

good thing someone said this

i'm too lazy to type up the four again
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I'm not even sure if Wind Waker can beat Oblivion... that was one of the upset picks I took. And Fallout 3 is stronger than Oblivion. Wind Waker is the weakest 3D zelda here.
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Wind Waker underestimation up in dis here topic

Well, just Albion, at least.

I wouldn't feel comfortable picking Fallout 3 to beat ANY of those.

But we'll get to see Fallout 3 (or HL2, whichever) up against Melee/Brawl one-on-one for 24 hours, so we'll get plenty of opportunity to judge then.
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I think Fallout 3's weak path has convinced people it's stronger than it is.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3501
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From: NoDicePwn | #034
Wind Waker is the weakest 3D zelda here.

WW > MM
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oh hey, Majora's Mask. that could probably take Fallout 3 as well.
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Fallout 3 might beat Wind Waker, Majora's Mask, and FFIX. Might. I'd take Goldeneye to beat a fair number of games on that list though, but Goldeneye was published by Nintendo, so it doesn't fully count.
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What makes us think Wind Waker is so strong? I'm not even sure I'd take it over Metroid Prime or Galaxy, at least not comfortably.. and I'd take Fallout 3 to easily beat both of them. All of those major GC titles seem weak
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Goldeneye could probably take FF9... maybe. I'm not sold on Goldeneye to say the least. Mario 1 vs. Goldeneye would be a crazy match.
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From: LeonhartFour | #037
WW > MM

It's proven by the GameFAQs Top 100 List in 2005 >_>
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Let's see, FO3 got 43.25% on MGS4 in round three and 41.79% in round two (keep in mind it was closer to Portal and CoD4 than it was to MGS4.

Oblivion got 43.99% on MGS3 in round two and 46.73% in round three.

So I guess it comes down to whether you think MGS3 or MGS4 is stronger there.

It also got 38.96% on TP, compared to the 39.70% and 39.06% HL2 put on it.
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Fallout 3 should be noticeably stronger than Oblivion -- another reason why MGS3 ain't got no shot !
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From: NoDicePwn | #040
I'm not even sure I'd take it over Metroid Prime or Galaxy, at least not comfortably

Wind Waker already beat Prime 55/45 once, and there's no reason for that result to change.

Galaxy ain't beatin' it either.
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Goldeneye took a doubling from FFVII with 2 other Nintendo games in the poll. It actually did very similarly to FFX's performance on OOT with 2 Nintendo games in the poll. OOT's stronger than FFVII, and I think FFX did slightly better percentagewise, so you get a gap between the games, but Goldeneye looks very strong. GE getting SFF'd into the ground by Mario 64 and OOT in 2004 means nothing.
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From: NoDicePwn | #488
And yeah, FFXIII is winning the goty. In the multi poll, ME2 and New Vegas will LFF eachother enough to let XIII win the match, and none of the console winners are going to beat it.

MArio galaxy 2? I think you either haven't played FF13 or are seriously overrating it's strengths. Remember RE5? how did that do compared to RE4? utter ****. Name doesn't mean squat.

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Yeah, GoldenEye's probably pretty strong, but it's basically a western game with a Nintendo audience, so it almost doesn't even count!
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I always kinda wished Goldeneye did get that rumored Xbox Live Arcade port. People coulda played it and be like "I used to think this was good? Its junk now!" and it would make it weaker.
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From: FFI3_Lightning | #047
MArio galaxy 2? I think you either haven't played FF13 or are seriously overrating it's strengths.

He's not the one overrating strength if you think Galaxy 2 is going to win.
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