GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 936
transients | Posted 11/2/2010 3:50:54 PM | message detail |
maybe if you have rock-bottom expectations for Halo then that's great. but losing badly to Fallout 3 doesn't mean 'great' to me. --- xyzzy |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 3:51:18 PM | message detail |
From: transients | #147 Yeah, I was gonna mention this. It probably looked the worst out of the three Halo games (although like the GTA games, they're all probably relatively close together). Fun fact: 2009 Games Contest X-Stats say Halo 1 >= 2 > 3 and San Andreas > Vice City > 4 > 3 --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 3:52:06 PM | message detail |
How is 40% against one of the strongest games in the bracket bad? --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2010 3:52:37 PM | message detail |
The
board's reasoning for SMS was terrible and like The Show said a
majority of people really in the know (stats topic) went with Halo 3. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 21/26 Today's Matches: DA: O & LoZ: TP |
red sox 777 | Posted 11/2/2010 3:53:31 PM | message detail |
Because
Fallout 3 probably isn't a top 20 game in the grand scheme of things, I
guess, despite it being an elite in this bracket. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 3:53:59 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #153 It's not bad, but I wouldn't call looking equal to BioShock and losing cleanly to Portal "great." --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2010 3:54:06 PM | message detail |
How is 40% against one of the strongest games in the bracket bad? Umm.... >_> --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 21/26 Today's Matches: DA: O & LoZ: TP |
red sox 777 | Posted 11/2/2010 3:55:02 PM | message detail |
SMS
was a solid upset pick I think. It got close, so it's not as though it
was a stupid pick. I didn't expect it to be the favorite, and it wasn't
the favorite in this topic. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/2/2010 3:55:03 PM | message detail |
while we're talking about upsets suck it disgaea --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 3:55:39 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #156 Well I was more thinking compared to the other Halo games. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3471 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3489 I always thought they looked worse, whatever the stats ended up saying. --- DFF |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 11/2/2010 3:56:34 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #156 It's not bad, but I wouldn't call looking equal to BioShock and losing cleanly to Portal "great." BURN. --- -.- |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 3:56:43 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #160 You know, it bothers me that people constantly bring up this poll and never bring up the first round match where Halo 1 got 48% on Diablo 2, as if the second match is the more legitimate one. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2010 3:56:57 PM | message detail |
SMS was a solid upset pick I think. It was, but going it's freaking Mario and lol Halo was the wrong way to go about it. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 21/26 Today's Matches: DA: O & LoZ: TP |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 3:57:43 PM | message detail |
Because 1. In Round 1 Diablo had possible WRPG LFF with KOTOR. 2. I'm looking more at how Halo got doubled by a Melee with WW around its neck. --- DFF |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/2/2010 3:57:50 PM | message detail |
Remember,
in KP-land 44% on Call of Duty 4 is terrible, despite the fact that
even if you assume Diamond/Pearl/Platinum did nothing to Galaxy that
puts said 44% on CoD4 as probably right around that 40% on Fallout 3. Not an X-stat expert so I don't know the exact, but a 44% through a 45% sounds like it probably finishes right around 40%. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png "SEXTON HILLBEAST" - TimJab |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 3:59:03 PM | message detail |
Dude, I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you on your period? --- DFF |
xp1337 | Posted 11/2/2010 3:59:06 PM | message detail |
Not an X-stat expert so I don't know the exact, but a 44% through a 45% sounds like it probably finishes right around 40%. 39.6%, I believe. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (22/27) LoZ: TP v Shenmue |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 3:59:31 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #164 Eh, this feels about as likely as XBox LFF with Halo 1/KOTOR. But either way, it's not huge enough to make a difference like we saw in round 2. I'd honestly consider round 1 to be the more "legit" result. I actually mentioned this once (and someone actually brought it up in this topic recently), but man, everyone played Halo 1 for multiplayer. It almost didn't feel like a stretch to say it underperformed because of Melee, regardless of how weird that sounds. --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/2/2010 4:00:17 PM | message detail |
Pokemon
was hated throughout most of its time as a cultural phenomenon. I think
that's why it was hated. I know playership isn't everything, but I
almost guarantee you that playership rates on this site go RBY > GSC
> RSE > DPP. I guarantee you that D/P/P is much more played than R/S/E. RSE is definitely last by a large margin. I'm actually shocked it made it into this contest because like others said, it's not liked by anyone. RBY > GSC > DPP > RSE is easily how the ranking goes, and I'd probably throw Snap and the first Stadium game before RSE. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
red sox 777 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:01:19 PM | message detail |
By playership I meant the percentage of people who have played/own the game, not the amount of time they spent on it. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 4:01:20 PM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #169 Except for Board 8, apparently, where an overwhelming percentage of voters said it was a great game in a recent topic. Aw yeah Pokemon Snap --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
pjbasis | Posted 11/2/2010 4:01:25 PM | message detail |
All the games on a Sega platform are either not worth playing or available somewhere else. |
pjbasis | Posted 11/2/2010 4:01:54 PM | message detail |
lol wrong topic. How the **** did that happen. |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:01:55 PM | message detail |
Melee
probably multiplayer SFF Halo since anyone who has friends probably
played those two games even though they aren't on the same system. That's right MPSFF. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 21/26 Today's Matches: DA: O & LoZ: TP |
transients | Posted 11/2/2010 4:02:01 PM | message detail |
Pokemon Snap to beat GTA4, you heard it here first! --- xyzzy |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 4:02:31 PM | message detail |
From: transients | #175 I could actually live with this result! --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 4:02:47 PM | message detail |
I'd rather argue WRPG LFF than Melee SFFing Halo. Either way, that's not the point. The point I was trying to make was that Sunshine looked good, then RSE looked good, both against opponents that did good last contest, so them doing well means more for them than their opponents. --- DFF |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:03:08 PM | message detail |
And I could be persuaded to fangirl pick it! --- Easily. |
red sox 777 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:03:11 PM | message detail |
And
I'm not saying that DPP isn't stronger, just that it would make sense
to me for RSE to be stronger. But the game the core fanbase prefers
hardly ever loses, so eh..... --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 4:03:32 PM | message detail |
I'd be all for petitioning Bacon to remove RSE and get it replaced with Pokemon Snap. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:04:40 PM | message detail |
I'd rather argue WRPG LFF than Melee SFFing Halo. Really? I can't be the only one that played a lot of Halo/Melee at friend's houses during high school. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 21/26 Today's Matches: DA: O & LoZ: TP |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 4:05:11 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #177 I agree with your main point, but I still don't think there'd be significant enough LFF between Diablo 2 and KOTOR to go from winning by 2000 votes at a decently high percentage to winning by 8500 votes with a much lower percentage. I mean, Halo dropped 6% relative to Diablo 2 from round 1 to round 2. I'd sooner chalk that up to Melee than I would Diablo 2/KOTOR LFF because I have a hard time believing KOTOR gets 56% on Halo. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/2/2010 4:06:00 PM | message detail |
Going over friend's houses used to mean Melee/Brawl and Halo 2/Halo 3 and sometimes Guitar Hero III/Rock Band. SFF DAMMIT. --- http://8board.webs.com/spider-man.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 4:06:16 PM | message detail |
I mean, it's not like we haven't seen freakier instances of SFF such as Ryu Hayabusa getting SFF'd by Solid Snake of all things. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 4:06:55 PM | message detail |
Then it was both. Compromise! (I really don't care either way, it doesn't make any difference to what I'm saying) --- DFF |
transients | Posted 11/2/2010 4:06:59 PM | message detail |
fourways --- xyzzy |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 4:07:24 PM | message detail |
From: transients | #186 LOL --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/2/2010 4:07:29 PM | message detail |
From: ZenOfThunder | #183 what about battlefront 2 zen what about battlefront 2 --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
red sox 777 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:07:31 PM | message detail |
Western
SFF makes a lot more sense than Melee/Halo SFF. Those fanbases are like
water and oil. I doubt that the shared multiplayer fanbase would
overwhelmingly prefer Melee anyway. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:07:33 PM | message detail |
Solid Snake/Hayabusa still makes no sense. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 21/26 Today's Matches: DA: O & LoZ: TP |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 4:08:11 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #189 Pffft, I personally contributed to Melee/Halo 1 SFF, thank you very much! --- Support Squirtle (Pokemon R/B/Y) for Character Battle IX! http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8463/banner2squirtle.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 4:09:04 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #190 Ryu Hayabusa gets most of his strength from people voting off of him being a badass character and having a cool design. When you add Snake into that picture, most of those votes are going to get siphoned. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:09:41 PM | message detail |
Western
SFF makes a lot more sense than Melee/Halo SFF. Those fanbases are like
water and oil. I doubt that the shared multiplayer fanbase would
overwhelmingly prefer Melee anyway. This is GameFAQs afterall. Sure we were exposed to Halo and may vote for it over stuff that we don't care about, but we sure love our Nintendo. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 21/26 Today's Matches: DA: O & LoZ: TP |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/2/2010 4:10:04 PM | message detail |
badass SFF you can call SFF on anything and it'd probably exist Gears of War/Hello Kitty Roller Rescue SFF --- (|| ' ' ||) ~Zen . /|_|\ Freak out in a Moonage Daydream, oh yeah... |
red sox 777 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:10:11 PM | message detail |
Also,
yeah, let's not forget that 4-way extrapolation by the normal method is
always inconsistent, even within the same match. Extrapolate through
different characters in the same match and you get
substantially different results. That is, extrapolating Duke's
percentage on Zack through Link gives a different percentage than just
taking Duke/Zack directly, even though we are only using the same match! So yeah, expect high margins of error with 4-way extrapolation. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 4:10:14 PM | message detail |
I know why it happened, but it's still no freakier than Melee/Halo 1 SFF because everyone
played those games back in the early part of the decade. Whenever you
went over to a friend's house, you played 1 of those games, if not both. --- Support Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for Character Battle IX! http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9342/banner3seifer.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:11:17 PM | message detail |
Ryu
Hayabusa gets most of his strength from people voting off of him being
a badass character and having a cool design. When you add Snake into
that picture, most of those votes are going to get siphoned. It's not like Hayabusa has never gone up against badass looking characters before; Zero? Dante? --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 21/26 Today's Matches: DA: O & LoZ: TP |
red sox 777 | Posted 11/2/2010 4:11:49 PM | message detail |
Pffft, I personally contributed to Melee/Halo 1 SFF, thank you very much! Well I contributed to SSBM/FFX SFF in that case. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2010 4:11:55 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #195 Well, I generally don't think as much of a single match as much as I do completely different performances between two games in two separate matches because something happened to turn a close match into a not-so-close match other than just random variation, I think. --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 4:12:49 PM | message detail |
Zero isn't in that camp. And he did pretty badly against Dante, at least compared to what he ended up doing later. --- DFF |
