GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 936
GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/2/2010 5:54:44 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=189 Shenmue is stronger than Pokemon Gold/Silver, surely it has a slight chance to upset Twilight Princess ...... right? ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~ http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://www.thengamer.com/ http://thengamer.com/xstats ~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame ~*Character Contest Histories*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the Match Pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense. Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated. Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man. |
Intanos VI | Posted 11/2/2010 5:58:32 AM | message detail |
Oh
dear at posting that poll. At that time, Pokemon was hated, most of the
players were kids who wouldn't even be on here to vote and GameFAQs was
still a pretty small site. There was genuine Dreamcast hype around that
time aswell. --- Did you know that? No? Neither did i. |
The Real Truth | Posted 11/2/2010 6:03:46 AM | message detail |
That poll proves it. I'm taking Shenmue. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
The Real Truth | Posted 11/2/2010 6:04:33 AM | message detail |
Also, these matches are missing from Creativename's site http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3483 R/B/Y, Majora, MGS, G/S/C http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3485 SM64/SotN/CT/SMW2 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3486 FF6/LW/Sonic 2/MK2 --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
Xcarvenger | Posted 11/2/2010 6:12:38 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=294 hail Chrono Cross game of the decade might as well end the contest now --- Clannad love! www.board8.wikia.com |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/2/2010 6:18:28 AM | message detail |
Oh dear at thinking I'm ever gonna make a serious post --- Oracle contest - 47th Today's pick: Dragon Age - 64.86% Status: meh |
creativename | Posted 11/2/2010 6:42:12 AM | message detail |
Man, that's some Sora-esque ASV+SNV from Pokemon last match! Poke-beasting. I thought GTA had a better ASV than that. Galaxy in a night match will make RSE look bad though. Too bad for Dragon Age that it has such a bad placement, it might've made some noise in a more favorable spot. It probably beats both VC and Disgaea pretty easily for instance. Maybe even 60/40's them? And Twilight Princess vs. Shenmue is going to get uuugly. From: The Real Truth | #004 There was a database crash in the offseason. I recovered what I could but unfortunately I guess some matches were lost. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/2/2010 9:41:48 AM | message detail |
tag --- http://8board.webs.com/luna-lovegood.jpg |
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 11/2/2010 9:41:54 AM | message detail |
bumpo --- CURRENT GOTY SCORE: 22 Rayquaza saved my bracket. |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/2/2010 9:43:01 AM | message detail |
Found an interesting post from the 2008 Character Battle: transience | Posted 11/4/2008 8:00:00 AM | message detail weird, we've got weekend trends here instead of normal schoolday ones. yay elections! Retrieved from this page: http://thengamer.com/stats/Pt601-650/Stats_and_Discussion_Pt620/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt620%20Pg2.htm Wonder if this match will follow weekend trends due to the elections? Granted, the elections today are just midterm elections and don't receive as much voter turnout than the presidential elections. A small chance we might get an election poll today (like there was for the 2008 election), but I doubt it. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
voltch | Posted 11/2/2010 9:45:23 AM | message detail |
bump on a stats topic? --- Nyuu~ |
The Real Truth | Posted 11/2/2010 9:47:05 AM | message detail |
creativename Posted: 11/2/2010 6:42:12 AM Man, that's some Sora-esque ASV+SNV from Pokemon last match! Poke-beasting. I thought GTA had a better ASV than that. Galaxy in a night match will make RSE look bad though. Too bad for Dragon Age that it has such a bad placement, it might've made some noise in a more favorable spot. It probably beats both VC and Disgaea pretty easily for instance. Maybe even 60/40's them? And Twilight Princess vs. Shenmue is going to get uuugly. From: The Real Truth | #004 Also, these matches are missing from Creativename's site http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3483 R/B/Y, Majora, MGS, G/S/C http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3485 SM64/SotN/CT/SMW2 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3486 FF6/LW/Sonic 2/MK2 There was a database crash in the offseason. I recovered what I could but unfortunately I guess some matches were lost. Is there any way you can at least link to the final stats for the matches that messed up? It's a lot easier than going through past poll results on this site. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/2/2010 9:48:22 AM | message detail |
With
it being the national elections today in America, think we might see
any different voting trends? Like maybe less votes from NA? --- http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/2/2010 9:49:40 AM | message detail |
With it being the national elections today in America, think we might see any different voting trends? If the trends do make this match act like a weekend match, then TP's ASV might be weaker than usual. Like maybe less votes from NA? I doubt that would be affected by the election. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/2/2010 9:54:23 AM | message detail |
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/2/2010 9:58:02 AM | message detail |
Maybe I'm bad at math but.... BG&E doesn't even look like it doubled Rome: Total War. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png "SEXTON HILLBEAST" - TimJab |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/2/2010 9:58:49 AM | message detail |
Yeah you're right I don't know how I messed that up It was more like, 63%, sorry. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/2/2010 10:03:01 AM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #013 Schools have a 4 day weekend and it's considered a federal holiday, for what it's worth. Not like it matters, TP was going to romp no matter what. --- "If a bunch of foxes invade your house you wouldn't say your house has a disease. You would just kill them all with chemicals." -WackJackman, on crabs |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/2/2010 10:03:02 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3997 Shenmue gets 59% on Total War http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4047 Beyond Good & Evil gets 63% on Rome: Total War Now such polls are hard to get a grasp of(and I myself have berated multi-option stats so I'm kind of a hypocrite) but this makes Galaxy look good. Depending on how SFF falls it might even win, but I doubt that. This time with correct maths! --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/2/2010 10:03:14 AM | message detail |
Also, whiners are out in full force today. --- I don't know of any cases of a straight woman finding a man "too gorgeous" to kill. -Mega They never met Ulti. -RPGLord95 |
Blairville | Posted 11/2/2010 10:03:55 AM | message detail |
4601 vs 2739, is that even 60%? --- http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/images/haters.gif |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 11/2/2010 10:04:53 AM | message detail |
From: Blairville | #021 Yes, it's just under 63%. --- http://img.imgcake.com/alecoweenpngam.png http://img.imgcake.com/alecpngym.png |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/2/2010 10:12:16 AM | message detail |
I
think we might actually have weekend trends today. Vote totals are
unusually high by this point into the match. Here were the vote totals
for day matches at the end of the first hour: Weekday Day Matches: TP/Shenmue - 7207 Pokemon RSE/GTA IV - 6719 CoD4/PoP - 5751 WC3/Morrowind - 5917 HL2/L4D2 - 4631 GoW/L4D - 5991 Okami/NMH - 5927 SA2/SFIV - 6600 TF2/Fable - 6602 RB2/Deus Ex - 5424 Weekend Day Matches: Brawl/MKDS - 7541 No Mercy/Fire Emblem - 6584 Mother 3/DMC3 - 7159 Halo/Ninja Gaiden - 7093 3 of the weekend matches broke 7000 votes after one hour and TP/Shenmue has the second highest vote total after the first hour despite being a weekday match. Day matches that occur on a weekday generally have lower vote totals after the first hour than those that occur on a weekend. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/2/2010 10:12:18 AM | message detail |
Also, whiners are out in full force today. Lol I expected that, tbh. With all the complaining I always hear about "Shenmue needs a sequel!!!" I fully expected Deus Ex-level whining while Shenmue got steamrolled by Zelda :P |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 11/2/2010 10:13:36 AM | message detail |
Man
the first poll that is in the first post...How things change eh?G/S/C
was last,but now it can beat all these games in 1vs1...And as for
FFIX?Yeah right... --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
creativename | Posted 11/2/2010 10:19:32 AM | message detail |
From: The Real Truth | #052 Well alright. I used the manual poll update page (poll_update.php?pollid=xxxx) to insert the following, which I believe are all the polls for which data is missing (I made a note of this list on the facts and trivia page): 3456 3461 3483 3486 3496 From: Lightning Strikes | #059 I believe the only plausible response to this is "LOLno" :P --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/2/2010 10:24:23 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=3456&num=4 Whoops, it doesn't show all 4 games. Polls 3461, 3483, 3486, and 3496 need to be moved from the GOTD section over to the BGE 2K9 section of the site. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
creativename | Posted 11/2/2010 10:28:25 AM | message detail |
Yes
I realized. I had to make minor changes to the script. The
poll_update.php now takes additional parameters num_entrants and
contest, e.g. in this case
poll_update.php?pollid=3456&num_entrants=4&contest=BGE 2K9 --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/2/2010 10:30:40 AM | message detail |
From: creativename | #026 I'm just sayin'! --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
creativename | Posted 11/2/2010 10:33:30 AM | message detail |
I'm not really buying into this weekend trends theory, I think Zelda will maul with the ASV as usual. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/2/2010 10:35:11 AM | message detail |
Vote
totals seem unusually high by this point into the match. I made this
post earlier regarding the possible chance of weekend trends: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56993778/630320981 --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/2/2010 10:35:22 AM | message detail |
So,
I was looking at the ToV/Borderlands match. I've been going over it in
my head over and over again, trying to figure out which one has the
advantage. These are the three main polls I pulled: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3356 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4049 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722 The first poll doesn't give us much to compare against... ToV beats out Ninja Gaiden 2, and Fable 2, but if we're to go by this contest's previous matches, that only tells us that ToV isn't bottom-barrel fodder. The second and third polls are interesting. In one, you have Tales of the Abyss being doubled by RE5, with little in the poll to SFF, except maybe Xenosaga. In the other, you have Borderlands putting up 95% against RE5, but the entire poll is flooded with shooters and action games. I can only assume that ToV is stronger than ToTA, being one of the few accepted console JRPGs of this generation, but aside from that, I can't make heads or tales (lol) of the results from these polls. If somebody else can, I'd be more than happy to listen. I should also note that after looking at some of these polls, it seems both games are better on the day vote, and ToV will probably have a better SNV (the votes coming from Asia and Europe were pretty horrible for Borderlands). ToV is an xbox JRPG while Borderlands is a multiplatform shooter/WRPG. My gut says ToV, but I could be wrong. Any thoughts from other posters are appreciated. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/2/2010 10:36:52 AM | message detail |
I'm not really buying into this weekend trends theory, I think Zelda will maul with the ASV as usual. You're not buying the fact many kids have off of school today? You can't really argue against a fact, you know.. --- http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
HaRRicH | Posted 11/2/2010 10:43:26 AM | message detail |
LoZ:TP's
doing well here. It's hard to take much from it, though. Shenmue's not
what it used to be unless you think LoZ:TP smashes FFX...and I might
have taken LoZ:TP > FFX if the opportunity was there, but this match
doesn't do anything to confirm or deny it. --- Epona: your #1 trusty steed. http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/2/2010 10:45:01 AM | message detail |
If we put Shemnue on approx. the level of BG&E then it's doing pretty much exactly as we expected. --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 10:46:27 AM | message detail |
I think Vesperia will be better than what people are giving it credit for, but I doubt it wins. --- DFF |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/2/2010 10:48:34 AM | message detail |
TP's one of my picks for most "wasted" games in the bracket. Others include RE4, SMG, MGS2 and FFIX. --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/2/2010 10:50:29 AM | message detail |
How
was FF9 wasted? It was allowed to get to the division finals, and for a
game of its strength, thats about all it can ask for. --- http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/2/2010 10:50:45 AM | message detail |
I think Vesperia will be better than what people are giving it credit for, but I doubt it wins. It's kind of one of those "who sucks less" matches, honestly. But in two polls, Borderlands only barely beat L4D2. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3684 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722 Which honestly doesn't bode that well, since L4D is pretty close to fodder-level as it is. I think instead of comparing to RE5, we should be wondering how close ToV is to L4D. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/2/2010 10:52:17 AM | message detail |
TP and RE4 are getting to the Elite Eight...how is that wasted >_> --- http://www.abload.de/img/sam-being-awesome-2jfgd.gif |
HaRRicH | Posted 11/2/2010 10:52:28 AM | message detail |
From: Greyfeld | #032 Valid, but Borderlands had another poll in this year's GotY-polls: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3724 It looks considerably better here, likely because of the removal of other FPS-games like MW2 and L4D2. Which version of Borderlands we'll see remains to be seen, but I'd rather trust the poll I just posted...and that'd make it more difficult for a Tales-game not Symphonia to overcome. --- Nominate Epona...or else. http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2010 10:53:15 AM | message detail |
Borderlands also did this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3724 And even though it lost to RE5, we saw how well RE5 just did against Symphonia. Granted, there are reasons why Borderlands would look better in GotY polls (FPS games tend to overperform by quite a bit in them), but I don't think Vesperia will be that close to Symphonia. --- DFF |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/2/2010 10:59:37 AM | message detail |
It
looks considerably better here, likely because of the removal of other
FPS-games like MW2 and L4D2. Which version of Borderlands we'll see
remains to be seen, but I'd rather trust the poll I just posted...and
that'd make it more difficult for a Tales-game not Symphonia to
overcome. But look at what else is in the poll. Demon's Souls - near-fodder Fat Princess - downloadable Half-Minute Hero - handheld infamous - fodder Muramasa - Wii game Plants v. Zombies - downloadable Scribblenauts - handheld Shadow Complex - downloadable The wide majority of games in that poll are handheld or downloadable games, both of which are known to do extremely poorly on gamefaqs. In the end, this was really only a poll between Borderlands, DAO, inFamous, and Demon's Souls... and this contest has already proven two of those games to be fodder (infamous gets nearly quadrupled by FO3, and DS loses to a downloadable game). The fact that it pulls second place isn't in the least bit impressive, honestly. |
Ultimaphazon | Posted 11/2/2010 11:02:52 AM | message detail |
I
went with Vesperia in that match, just because I figured a jrpg was
closer to the taste of the Gamefaqs community. It's the best jrpg of
the generation, and at worst, I lose a point on a fanboy pick. --- A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool. - Reno, FFVII http://i25.tinypic.com/2cp5chf.jpg |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/2/2010 11:04:32 AM | message detail |
I
switched to borderlands at the last minute, though I'm not sure I
should have now. However, I'm more concerned about my battle picks than
my bracket at this point. There's going to be a LOT of banking done on
ToV/Borderlands, and if I can get the match right, I'll have a streak
running. |
TRE Public Account | Posted 11/2/2010 11:13:54 AM | message detail |
Score-Brackets-% Right 26------8------------62.50 25------54----------92.59 24------327--------92.35 23------1167------92.29 22------2586------91.03 21------4140------91.09 20------5320------91.22 19------5102------88.98 18------4084------87.59 17------3073------86.01 16------2200------84.68 15------1382------81.19 14------808--------82.30 13------463--------74.95 12------215--------66.51 11------127--------71.65 10------56----------58.93 9--------40----------50.00 8--------23----------34.78 7--------35----------8.57 6--------18----------5.56 5--------11----------9.09 4--------8------------0.00 3--------5------------0.00 2--------6------------16.67 1--------17----------0.00 0--------39----------0.00 The remaining perfects really took a beating on this match for some reason. 3 of the remaining 8 get the match wrong. Only 4 of the 54 -1 brackets got the match wrong. Other than the perfects getting hammered, the prediction percentage near the top was pretty much expected. We've only got 5 perfects left. All of them are going to get the current match right, right? 4 people fell off the Top 50 today. Jigpuff, not_an_imp, Infrared187 and earthlink453553 did not have Dragon Age: Origins beating F-Zero GX. 2 people got the match wrong and survived. Former second place mjg3456789 and darkturkish5 also did not have Dragon Age: Origins beating F-Zero GX. --- Dr_Football punted my bracket across the field. Congrats to Dr_Football for winning the Character Battle 8 Guru Contest! |
HaRRicH | Posted 11/2/2010 11:16:01 AM | message detail |
If
DS is only near-fodder, Borderlands almost doubling it can't be so bad,
especially since ToV isn't going to easily beat DS (or MM9). Besides
that, the poll's really just between Borderlands and DA:O -- the others
don't matter very much, as you already suggested. We just saw DA:O do
well, and Uncharted 2/Batman:AA were near-equals to DA:O from January
that have also done well enough so far this contest, so it's not like
2009's had some bad break-down this contest. If ToV is stronger than we expect, Borderlands might be in trouble...but on its own merits, Borderlands should be fine. --- What do Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Twilight Princess have in common? EPONA! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 11/2/2010 11:23:13 AM | message detail |
TP and RE4 are getting to the Elite Eight...how is that wasted >_> I meant in terms of providing interesting matches, though I did forget TP goes up against KH/2, so it's really just RE4 that's been given an obvious path. --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
Greyfeld | Posted 11/2/2010 11:30:37 AM | message detail |
We
just saw DA:O do well, and Uncharted 2/Batman:AA were near-equals to
DA:O from January that have also done well enough so far this contest,
so it's not like 2009's had some bad break-down this contest. The thing is, in a 1v1 poll, I'm not sure that I would take Borderlands to beat Demon's Souls. I would go as far to say that in that poll, DAO significantly SFFed DS. Also, DAO just went up against F-Zero. I don't know about you, but I have never in my life met anybody who has even played that game. |
pjbasis | Posted 11/2/2010 11:32:00 AM | message detail |
You mean KH1. |