GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 934
Lightning Strikes | Posted 11/1/2010 6:44:22 AM | message detail |
As an aside Is there really any reason to assume that G/S/C will be THAT much stronger than D/P/P? I mean it has the nostalgia factor, but playrate and reception are basically the same and D/P/P has the advantage of a very active online community. And people are expecting it to get what on Majora's Mask? 55%? I do think it'll be a fair bit stronger than D/P/P, but 55% on Fusion to 55% on Majora's Mask is a hell of a leap. I was worried about picking MM at first but after D/P/P's performance... Not so much. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2010 6:46:38 AM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #101 Actual poll results? --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Biolizard28 | Posted 11/1/2010 6:47:02 AM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #101 Why do you ask questions you already have the answer to? --- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo Now this is entertainment! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2010 6:47:09 AM | message detail |
I mean, D/P/P got 45% on Galaxy, and G/S/C got 45% on MGS. That's a pretty big leap. --- Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3834/banner1barret.jpg |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/1/2010 6:47:34 AM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #101 The polls that say G/S/C >>> D/P/P, probably --- And I certainly do not agree with my words being taken out of context. - Vlado |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/1/2010 6:47:48 AM | message detail |
oh goddamnit guys --- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/1/2010 6:52:03 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #097 FFXIII is a completely new game. It has new characters/story. Mario galaxy 2 is the direct sequel to Galaxy 1 with the exact same gamepaly/characters. I'm not saying it's gonna put Galaxy into top tier but it will boost it..even if it's 1% or 2%, it will make galaxy stronger than last year. When SMG2 came out more people tried out SMG1 when they didn't play it..more people have wii's now than last year. Sequels will always make a franchise more popular even if it's a tiny bit..unless they were awful games. We all know SMG2 amazing and possibly more popular than the original itself. Take Halo 3 beating SMS this year...i think Reach ever so slighty boosted H3 a bit. Reach came out last month. you people act like SMG is so weak it would lose to SMS or something. And I wouldn't mind GSC progressing...it's actually imo the best pokemon games in the series. DPPP and RSE can go **** off asap though. Only 1 pokemon game deserves to progress and that's GSC. Unfortunately the only wauy you're gonna get rid of them is if you pair them with Smash bros. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/Ayaneff13.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2010 6:56:01 AM | message detail |
From: FFI3_Lightning | #107 I don't think anyone thinks that. If that ever happened, I would swear off this site forever. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/1/2010 6:59:49 AM | message detail |
yeah i know i was exaggerating. Anywya enough of that. I'm gonna keep Pokemon>GTAIV. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/SpringFR.png |
__Smurf__ | Posted 11/1/2010 7:01:24 AM | message detail |
Something
doesn't sit well with me about Galaxy. It was acclaimed by Mario fans
and held in high regard by games in general while say Zelda and Smash
fans were more mixed about TP and Brawl yet they seem to be oodles more
popular while old school Mario can more than hold its own against
anything. Either theres more to Galaxy than we're seeing or the fact is that people just don't care about Mario like they used to, regardless how good the games he features in are. --- Smurf , The cream of Sonic fanboyism. |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/1/2010 7:01:47 AM | message detail |
FFXIII
is a completely new game. It has new characters/story. Mario galaxy 2
is the direct sequel to Galaxy 1 with the exact same
gamepaly/characters. I'm not saying it's gonna put Galaxy into top tier
but it will boost it..even if it's 1% or 2%, it will make galaxy
stronger than last year. When SMG2 came out more people tried out SMG1
when they didn't play it..more people have wii's now than last year.
Sequels will always make a franchise more popular even if it's a tiny
bit..unless they were awful games. We all know SMG2 amazing and
possibly more popular than the original itself. It's Mario. SMG2 isn't exactly bringing an unknown series to the forefront here. SMG2's effect on SMG is entirely negligible. --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/1/2010 7:12:06 AM | message detail |
You guys do realize I was joking with the whole Galaxy/Ada Wong comparison, right? The only way new games can boost old games are if the old games are kinda obscure to begin with and the new games are big hits that bring attention to the series. Games like Mass Effect 2 and Fallout 3 can boost their predecessors, for instance. How the **** is Galaxy 2 going to boost Galaxy? --- Wylvane SantaRPG is a horrible user. |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/1/2010 7:12:28 AM | message detail |
From: __Smurf__ | #110 Core dedicated fanbase is much smaller. Brawl does have more mixed opinions but it's still has a far larger following on this site and so does TP. and i just realised.....Twilight Princess came out on Gamecube as well. I can't believe i forgot this..wonder the game is so ****** popular. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/Ayaneff13.png |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/1/2010 7:13:45 AM | message detail |
Of
course, I think the boosts even in the ME2/FO3 situation still won't be
that big. I don't think Mass Effect's going to do as well as a lot of
people, for instance. It'll only get a few more people to play the
older games, it doesn't guarantee they'll like it or anything. And it's
not like FO3 would have boosted the other Fallouts out of the fodder
level. --- Wylvane NClark128 is a horrible user. |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/1/2010 7:15:28 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #112 i didn't mean in significant way. People who didn't play galaxy probably played it during SMG2 release? People apreciate Galaxy more? or i don't know. but it will have some effect. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/SpringFR.png |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/1/2010 7:16:13 AM | message detail |
TP
is the third-best selling game in the series, which is funny enough
since its the third most popular Zelda of the series(at the very least,
on GameFAQs) --- The 3DS will be $200 or I'm closing my account - Ngamer64 |
__Smurf__ | Posted 11/1/2010 7:17:54 AM | message detail |
In
the last games contest the fanbase for the likes of SMB3/SMW/SM64 all
seemed very dedicated and propelled them to good results, why is the
old school Mario fanbase so strong compared to new school Mario's
fanbase? And when say Zelda has comparable popularity between old and
new games. --- Smurf , The cream of Sonic fanboyism. |
__Smurf__ | Posted 11/1/2010 7:20:01 AM | message detail |
"i
didn't mean in significant way. People who didn't play galaxy probably
played it during SMG2 release? People apreciate Galaxy more? or i don't
know. but it will have some effect." The main way that works is it has a more recent release to its name so a better chance people are visiting the site looking for FAQs in the name of SMG2, and if they are then thats direct support for SMG1 right there. But SMG isn't really an FAQ kind of game so I don't think its significant. --- Smurf , The cream of Sonic fanboyism. |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/1/2010 7:20:48 AM | message detail |
Personally I blame Super Mario Sunshine. I do agree that SMG being this weak feels odd, heck take a look at SMG2 that game came and went. At least people were all over SMG for a while. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 20/24 Today's Matches: SMG & GTA4 |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/1/2010 7:21:46 AM | message detail |
From: __Smurf__ | #117 You're not the only one wondering that. It still confuses me how Galaxy is so weak despite being so well-received. It won the 2007 GotY, beating CoD4, only to lose to it in the next games contest, though there's so much LFF there who knows which game would win in 1v1. Maybe it's always been this weak for all we know. But yeah, why is it so weak? It's not Sunshine, everyone loves Galaxy. It's not because it's on the Wii, because Brawl and TP are powerhouses. Did Sunshine really hurt Galaxy that bad? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense for me either. --- Wylvane GuessMyUserName is a horrible user. |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/1/2010 7:21:48 AM | message detail |
From: __Smurf__ | #117 Does it? WW isn't so strong and the Handheld Zelda games are weak as hell. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/Ayaneff13.png |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/1/2010 7:24:51 AM | message detail |
I mean, they still sell pretty well, but they have **** on NSMBW's incredible 18 million. *crosses fingers that Donkey Kong Country Returns sells like hotcakes* --- The 3DS will be $200 or I'm closing my account - Ngamer64 |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/1/2010 7:25:09 AM | message detail |
I
honestly now wish that Galaxy 1 didn't come out so that Galaxy 2 could
have had more of an impact (people would've been saying OMG BEST GAME
EVER!!!). Oh well, they're both among my favorite games anyways. I
think... ...is BG&E supposed to be much of a character-oriented game? It looks like it is! Albeit not especially towards Jade, so...ensemble cast? So perhaps BG&E like doubled Jade or something? --- Why did I pick Brawl to win the contest? |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 11/1/2010 7:25:14 AM | message detail |
handheld Mario games are also weak as hell handheld games tend to be weak as hell --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2010 7:29:31 AM | message detail |
I, too, blame Mario Sunshine for Galaxy's weakness. --- Support Squirtle (Pokemon R/B/Y) for Character Battle IX! http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8463/banner2squirtle.jpg |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/1/2010 7:30:01 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #120 Mario Galaxy wasn't hypedas much as Brawl/TP though. And TP as i said before was on GC as well. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/SpringFR.png |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/1/2010 7:31:44 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #116 it's the 2nd best selling i think it surpassed NES zelda a while ago. --- http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/Mithos_2006/SpringFR.png |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 11/1/2010 7:33:45 AM | message detail |
Galaxy 1 still beats out TP's combined Wii/GC sales by a pretty large margin, and its not too
far behind Brawl. So we got a mega-selling MARIO game that won a
billion 2007 GOTYs and everybody loves. All logic says SMG should be a
powerhouse in this thing...but its not. **** you GameFAQs :/ --- Around here, I'm the father, the son, and the Holy ****ing Spirit all rolled into one - Red Crow |
__Smurf__ | Posted 11/1/2010 7:33:51 AM | message detail |
It wasn't hyped as much so it didn't get the disappointed aftertaste that TP and Brawl left some people with. --- Smurf , The cream of Sonic fanboyism. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/1/2010 7:39:12 AM | message detail |
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NoDicePwn | Posted 11/1/2010 7:51:27 AM | message detail |
What kind of % does GTA4 need here today for people to consider it to have a shot next round? --- http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2010 7:52:30 AM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #131 At least 55%, probably closer to 60% before I'd start worrying. --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 11/1/2010 7:57:04 AM | message detail |
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 11/1/2010 7:57:58 AM | message detail |
It would have to damn near double Emerald for me to even consider an upset next round. --- GT: TriggerTRE // PSN ID: SolidTRE GOTD SWEET 16: FO3, Halo, MP, GTA3, SSBM, SSBB, Z:TP, KH2, FFX, FFIX, RE4, CC:FF7, MSG3, MGS4, Z:MM, Z:WW |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2010 7:59:41 AM | message detail |
Man, if GTA IV doubles R/S/E, I'd get really nervous. And everyone will be lauding Majora's Mask as the G/S/C killer. Actually, I'd almost like to see G/S/C beat MM but then lose to Wind Waker. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/1/2010 8:01:13 AM | message detail |
It would have to damn near double Emerald for me to even consider an upset next round. Grand Theft Auto 4 (2009g) VS Super Mario Galaxy (2009g) Grand Theft Auto 4 has a strength of 25.37. Super Mario Galaxy has a strength of 22.89. Grand Theft Auto 4 wins with 54.89% of the vote! A win of 10,739 with 109,859 total votes cast. Its not like GTA4 is some weak game, plus its a night vote, and GTA dominates in Europe (since its a European series). Its the upset yeah, but its gonna be close regardless. --- http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/1/2010 8:01:42 AM | message detail |
can anyone give me the links to the next few match pics? --- Oracle contest - 45th Today's pick: Galaxy - 76.94% Status: meh |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2010 8:03:14 AM | message detail |
From: GrapefruitKing | #137 http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/gotd/gotd-26.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/gotd/gotd-27.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/gotd/gotd-28.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/gotd/gotd-29.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/gotd/gotd-30.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/gotd/gotd-31.jpg http://image.com.com/gamefaqs/images/gotd/gotd-32.jpg --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 11/1/2010 8:05:05 AM | message detail |
I
don't really take most of those X-Stats seriously. You really think
GTA4 can beat SMG in a popularity poll on GameFAQs? Galaxy might've
looked weak in previous polls but it isn't that weak. --- GT: TriggerTRE // PSN ID: SolidTRE GOTD SWEET 16: FO3, Halo, MP, GTA3, SSBM, SSBB, Z:TP, KH2, FFX, FFIX, RE4, CC:FF7, MSG3, MGS4, Z:MM, Z:WW |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/1/2010 8:06:37 AM | message detail |
I
don't really take most of those X-Stats seriously. You really think
GTA4 can beat SMG in a popularity poll on GameFAQs? Galaxy might've
looked weak in previous polls but it isn't that weak. Call of Duty 4 beat it no problem (and I don't buy Ruby/Sapphire hurting it much). I don't see why its a stretch to think GTA4 could beat it if CoD4 could put 56% on it (remember, the same CoD couldn't even get 63% on Prince of Persia) --- http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 11/1/2010 8:10:02 AM | message detail |
4-way
polls mess things up. Put Galaxy up against COD4 1-on-1 and I'd bet
money on the outcome being different, definitely alot closer. With that said, I'd take COD4 over GTA4 without thinking about it. --- GT: TriggerTRE // PSN ID: SolidTRE GOTD SWEET 16: FO3, Halo, MP, GTA3, SSBM, SSBB, Z:TP, KH2, FFX, FFIX, RE4, CC:FF7, MSG3, MGS4, Z:MM, Z:WW |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/1/2010 8:12:02 AM | message detail |
Yeah another strike against SMG is that no one from its four-pack has exactly looked that great. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 20/24 Today's Matches: SMG & GTA4 |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/1/2010 8:16:12 AM | message detail |
For
the record, Galaxy only got 54.89% against DPP last year. RSE will be
weaker, but if GTA4 scores 60% or so on RSE, that upset suddenly
becomes rather tempting. --- Wylvane turbopuns is a horrible user. |
LOLContests | Posted 11/1/2010 8:32:15 AM | message detail |
GTA IV couldn't even beat a SFFd Galaxy by that much in 2009. It shouldn't have much chance of anything in this contest. I think part of the "problem" with Galaxy is that it was never as strong as it looked. It probably had a huge overperformance on CoD4 in 2007 thanks to LFF and a 1 v 1 match between the two of them would have been fairly close. Over time this has switched in the opposite direction. As a multiplayer game, especially one that was not hyped on GameFAQS, I would expect CoD4 to gain over time, while as a single player, only a month or two, the end of 2007 was probably Galaxy's height in popularity. Don't forget that it couldn't even beat a LFFd Twilight Princess in 2007 either. While Galaxy's not that close to the Big 4 Mario games, all three of those games were much bigger than Galaxy, in terms of impact and sales. GameFAQS has never really loved platformers, but at worst I would say that Galaxy is around 30 or so on B(ase)FFVII, still a pretty impressive number,* compared to its competitors. As a Mario game people expect it to do really well, but unlike Smash Brothers or Zelda, Mario is not popular on GameFAQS due to some monolithic fanbase, at least not anymore. It's games are popular in their own right, and taking into account where platformers stand on GameFAQS I wouldn't find Galaxy's placement all that shocking. *Although this performance possibly throws that into question. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
LOLContests | Posted 11/1/2010 8:37:58 AM | message detail |
People
are also extra hard on Mario because this is supposed to be
NintendoFAQS, but saying that ignores the fact that Nintendo is only
disproportionately popular here when it comes to a few selected series
like Zelda and Smash Bros. (possibly Pokemon as well, but we don't have
any data on that). 2005 aside, Mario has never looked more popular here
than the games/characters would be on any other site. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
HaRRicH | Posted 11/1/2010 8:39:35 AM | message detail |
I
liked this match a lot more when SMG was over 80% than when SMG's under
75%. Bah...it looks similar to MP again then, and we don't have good
reason to think MP's worth much of a damn here either. --- Nominate Epona...or else. http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/1/2010 8:44:46 AM | message detail |
Like
I said, it's not just Galaxy's fourpack that's been disappointing, but
also EVERY VETERAN GAME RELEASED IN '07 AND LATER. DO I REALLY HAVE TO
RECAP IT? I MEAN, LET'S LOOK AT EVERY INSTANCE IN THE BRACKET SO FAR,
ASIDE FROM TODAY: -Fallout 3 wasn't disappointing but it was against a PS3 exclusive sandbox game not named GTA, and it may have overperformed due to New Vegas's incredibly close release. -Team Fortress 2 nearly blew a match most of us expected it to win easily. Although to be fair Fable II was going to be released in a few days at the time so maybe Fable overperformed. Still. -Street Fighter IV pulled off the "upset" but most casuals were probably expecting much more. Nobody thinks much of 3D Sonic I don't think. -Halo 3 didn't lose to Mario Sunshine like most of the Board apparently thought it would but again most bracketmakers were probably expecting something much more. -Left 4 Dead really dropped the ball, especially considering how bad Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry 3 looked. -LittleBigPlanet was almost doubled by what might be the weakst GTA game we've seen in a contest. -Call of Duty 4 disappointed but maybe Sands of Time is stronger than we thought? -Pokemon Platinum allowed a handheld Metroid game to (almost?) break 45%, which is especially alarming as stats project this Pokemon game to break 45% on SUPER METROID. -Brawl may be the biggest exception to the rule so far but it was in an SFF match. Today might simply be a continuation of aforementioned trend, and while I don't like to think so it only makes too much sense. Galaxy should be in the clear against GTAIV but dear god against Twilight Princess. Also, Rock Band 2, Batman, Uncharted 2, and No More Heroes were disappointments too. The GameFAQs guys may simply be voting against recent games. --- Why did I pick Brawl to win the contest? |
NoDicePwn | Posted 11/1/2010 8:45:48 AM | message detail |
LMS, what does Edge Magazine have to say about games from 07 till now --- http://i.neoseeker.com/ca/fallout_new_vegas_conceptart_7XvFK.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/1/2010 8:46:18 AM | message detail |
From: __Smurf__ | #110 You've hit it right. People don't care about Mario like they used to. --- "This is why I like board 8, you guys never stop responding to trolls." -foolmo |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 11/1/2010 8:51:10 AM | message detail |
I'm
actually not so sure about Smash Bros. being so disproportionally
popular here compared to everywhere else. In Crispy Gamer's Game of the
Decade contest Melee went to the final four, absolutely murdering all
its opponents (doubling the 1-seeded Metroid Prime in round 2 and break
60% on Shadow of the Colossus in the divisional finals), not to mention
it would've beaten the eventual champ Half-Life 2 if it wasn't caught
cheating. Then again, that contest also had: -Metal Gear Solid 2, Wind Waker, and Final Fantasy XII representing their franchises, and all losing in the first round, to Battlefield 1942, Psychonauts, and Lumines respectively. -Left 4 Dead upsetting Call of Duty 4 in the first round and riding that position to a respectable loss to Halo in the divisional finals. -God of War losing to Soulcalibur II in round 1. -Deus Ex beating Kingdom Hearts in the vote-ins. -Resident Evil 4 losing to Grand Theft Auto III, which then couldn't muster 40% against BioShock. -Halo getting to the final four and being caught cheating against World of Warcraft. -Half-Life 2 > World of Warcraft in the finals. --- Why did I pick Brawl to win the contest? |
