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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/29/2010 10:16:37 PM | message detail
Top 5 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Team Fortress 2 – 30893 vs. Fable – 30856 (R1) – 37
2. Morrowind – 25522 vs. Warcraft III – 25066 (R1) – 456
3. Deus Ex – 25117 vs. Rock Band 2 – 24365 (R1) – 752
4. Street Fighter IV – 27481 vs. Sonic Adventure 2 – 26673 (R1) – 808
5. CoD4: Modern Warfare – 28969 vs. PoP: Sands of Time – 17075 (R1) – 11894


What a difference between #4 and #5 on that list. WWF No Mercy/Fire Emblem later today probably pushes the CoD4 match off the list.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/29/2010 10:17:19 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | CoD4 | Sands of Time | Votes
0:05 | 62.80% | 37.20% | 578
1:00 | 60.74% | 39.26% | 5751
2:00 | 61.77% | 38.23% | 4850
3:00 | 62.65% | 37.35% | 4610
4:00 | 63.72% | 36.28% | 4744
5:00 | 63.65% | 36.35% | 4443
6:00 | 62.71% | 37.29% | 4291
7:00 | 62.91% | 37.09% | 3699
8:00 | 64.19% | 35.81% | 3203
9:00 | 65.26% | 34.74% | 2930
10:00 | 63.35% | 36.65% | 2712
11:00 | 62.09% | 37.91% | 2543
12:00 | 64.29% | 35.71% | 2268

Kinda weird match. I think this may be the first time that a heavy bracket favorite did poorly with the first hour. As you would expect, CoD4 made some nice improvements with the ASV, but the later hours were even better for it.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 10/29/2010 10:18:59 PM | message detail
(looks at poll)

Oh crap.

Oh, crap.

I'm banking on RSE/GTAIV now, that's for sure!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/29/2010 10:19:19 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #203
(looks at poll)

Oh crap.

Oh, crap.

I'm banking on RSE/GTAIV now, that's for sure!


More like easy money for GTA IV!
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/29/2010 10:20:51 PM | message detail
What a difference between #4 and #5 on that list. WWF No Mercy/Fire Emblem later today probably pushes the CoD4 match off the list.

Well there have been only 10 day and night matches so any category split by time has all the matches in either the most or least category.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 10/29/2010 10:22:06 PM | message detail
I am really tempted to go with GTA4 in my battle bracket, not gonna lie. Going against my regular bracket is a terrible feeling, though!

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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/29/2010 10:46:47 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
19------59----------96.61
18------512--------94.73
17------1864------95.06
16------4166------94.50
15------6040------93.31
14------5951------92.12
13------4748------90.37
12------3304------86.62
11------2168------83.12
10------1242------78.50
9--------618--------70.23
8--------294--------64.63
7--------132--------58.33
6--------85----------30.59
5--------33----------30.30
4--------20----------10.00
3--------12----------16.67
2--------7------------0.00
1--------17----------5.88
0--------42----------2.38

High prediction percentages this time. The top 7 tiers managed to stay above 90. Still no perfect, though. We lose yet another zero bracket.

Only one person fell off the Top 50. Arkmaster87 did not have Call of Duty 4 beating Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/29/2010 10:51:18 PM | message detail
By the way, does anyone contemplate God of War II>WW after this? This match makes it look pretty great, and it will be a night match.

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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/29/2010 11:04:41 PM | message detail
LOL, what happen to POKEFEAR?

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/29/2010 11:14:22 PM | message detail
Not bad, Fusion.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/29/2010 11:15:55 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #208
By the way, does anyone contemplate God of War II>WW after this? This match makes it look pretty great, and it will be a night match.


I'm sorry if this makes me sound uncompromising or something, but this will NEVER happen. This is a case of extrapolation run haywire.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 11:17:32 PM | message detail
GoW2 > WW would be an awesome result, but would never happen sadly.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/29/2010 11:28:38 PM | message detail


Top 5 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Morrowind vs. Warcraft III (R1) – 32.76%
2. Deus Ex vs. Rock Band 2 (R1) – 36.61%
3. Tales of Symphonia vs. Resident Evil 5 (R1) – 43.87%
4. Mega Man 9 vs. Demon’s Souls (R1) – 54.91%
5. Team Fortress 2 vs. Fable (R1) – 61.39%


aw yeah at getting all five of these right.

God damnit SA2 and SMS.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/29/2010 11:34:56 PM | message detail

From: Dilated Chemist | #209
LOL, what happen to POKEFEAR?


LOL New generations

This means practically nothing for G/S/C, and it surprises me people are trying to spin it that way because this is a result that's pretty consistent from a game that got whomped by CoD4 and lost pretty handily to Galaxy.

From: KamikazePotato | #208
By the way, does anyone contemplate God of War II>WW after this? This match makes it look pretty great, and it will be a night match.


You're really underestimating Wind Waker if you think GoW2's got a shot at it, regardless of what past results say, I think.
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pjbasis | Posted 10/29/2010 11:36:35 PM | message detail
Seriously!

Out of those 5 I only missed Deus Ex.

But SMS and SA2 were so damn important!
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/29/2010 11:40:57 PM | message detail
I guess people realized Fusion wasn't that bad after playing Other M.

It still deserves the hate
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Haste_2 | Posted 10/29/2010 11:43:52 PM | message detail
I need all the following situations to be true for the sake of my bracket. Precisely.

1)DPP dropped a bunch because it's age and is just not as liked now, not because Pokemon dropped.
2)Metroid Fusion, and also Metroid in general, is doing better than previously and/or is just underestimated.
3)MGS games bomb this year.
4)FF games bomb this year.

As long as that all happens I think I will be in good shape for GSC > FFX in the semis!

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/29/2010 11:44:06 PM | message detail
21 hours until valkyria > disgaea
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/29/2010 11:44:45 PM | message detail

From: Haste_2 | #217
I need all the following situations to be true for the sake of my bracket. Precisely.

1)DPP dropped a bunch because it's age and is just not as liked now, not because Pokemon dropped.
2)Metroid Fusion, and also Metroid in general, is doing better than previously and/or is just underestimated.
3)MGS games bomb this year.
4)FF games bomb this year.

As long as that all happens I think I will be in good shape for GSC > FFX in the semis!


Our brackets are very similar! Should all the major upsets we both have happen, it'll come down to some R2 matches we differentiate on!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/29/2010 11:46:04 PM | message detail
Again, this match means very little for G/S/C. Nobody should've expected an uber-SFF beatdown here.
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Blairville | Posted 10/29/2010 11:50:54 PM | message detail
Argh, I'm caving in. GTAIV > RSE in my battle now. I had it really close anyways.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/29/2010 11:56:08 PM | message detail
I think there was a general feeling that Pokemon might be even stronger now than it was 20 months ago, and people also didn't want to give Metroid handhelds ANY credit atop that. Consider the general strength discrepancy between console/handheld games in any big series (Pokemon being the obvious exception), and then carry that over to Metroid, a series where the two biggest console games already looked very disappointing.

No matter which way you try to slice it, we may be looking at nearly a 10% Oracle underperformance here. That is bad. That's almost DMC3 bad. Now, if someone personally believes that these Pokemon handhelds are as independent as any other major games from a major series (if you consider only Spirit Tracks, for example, then LoZ looks like a weak series), then I guess that person can remain confident in GSC. If someone believes that the Pokemon games may be a bit more tied at the hip, or that they benefited from the 4way format, however, then this match is cause for concern.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/29/2010 11:59:04 PM | message detail
Man, who gives a crap about Oracle consensus? We've already proven multiple times that we have no clue what's going on with this contest. That doesn't mean ANYTHING other than people actually think D/P/P is popular compared to the older generations or that it could SFF Fusion.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/30/2010 12:00:49 AM | message detail
The point I think Yo is trying to make that its still doing a lot worse than our expectations, just like its our expectations that G/S/C will be able to beat Majoras Mask. This expectation was wrong... whats to say that one might not be wrong too?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2010 12:01:27 AM | message detail
Also: it always wins.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 12:01:30 AM | message detail
Then people are basing their expectations on the wrong thing because one look at how D/P performed last Games Contest should've told you this game isn't strong.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 12:03:39 AM | message detail
Plus, this is a contest where we have very little relevant data on like 75% of the games in this contest. Of course our expectations are going to be frequently wrong. That's what happens when you don't have a contest full of entrants we've seen before.
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/30/2010 12:04:04 AM | message detail
GTAIV got this.

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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/30/2010 12:05:48 AM | message detail
Plus, this is a contest where we have very little relevant data on like 75% of the games in this contest. Of course our expectations are going to be frequently wrong. That's what happens when you don't have a contest full of entrants we've seen before.

Ah, reminds me of the good ol' days when people were surprised that gaming legend Lara Croft lost to an old SNES RPG character.
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ZFS | Posted 10/30/2010 12:08:59 AM | message detail
This expectation was wrong... whats to say that one might not be wrong too?

Really.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2010 12:09:55 AM | message detail
I don't think anyone around here uses the phrase "seriously guys, we know nothing" more than I do. I'm just saying that when a game underperforms this badly relative to our expectations, we are at least able to postulate the notion that it may spell trouble for related games. I understand that it may simply be our expectations that are out of whack, but there's the possibility, slim or not, that this may spell trouble for the other Pokemon games.

Also, where do you guys think is the greater strength discrepancy: between GSC and DPP or between Majora's Mask and Metroid Fusion?
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/30/2010 12:10:03 AM | message detail
Really.

yeah, sometimes things don't go as we expect them to. it happens
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SubDeity | Posted 10/30/2010 12:10:23 AM | message detail
Ah, reminds me of the good ol' days when people were surprised that gaming legend Lara Croft lost to an old SNES RPG character.

That's pretty funny, really, considering that Chrono Trigger was more recent in that contest than Final Fantasy X is in this one.
ZFS | Posted 10/30/2010 12:13:20 AM | message detail
Well, the assumption that an entire series of games -- all of varying quality and popularity -- would get a voted for simply being apart of that series is a bad one. Emerald isn't doing so hot here, but why does that suddenly spell doom for GSC? If you thought GSC was a potential finalist, why would it matter how a significantly less popular, less talked about Pokemon game does? If Final Fantasy XII loses to, say, Portal -- is FFX screwed against Melee? Do we really go there? I think that's a bad idea all on its own. I wouldn't treat these games as being all the same, because normal people don't do that.

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ZFS | Posted 10/30/2010 12:15:17 AM | message detail
also i defended a pokemon game i feel dirty

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 12:17:31 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #231
Also, where do you guys think is the greater strength discrepancy: between GSC and DPP or between Majora's Mask and Metroid Fusion?


G/S/C and D/P/P because I still have very little respect for Majora's Mask.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 12:18:22 AM | message detail
Also, if FFIX puts up a bad performance, are people really going to start going "MAN AM I GLAD I TOOK SMASH BROS!" or something?
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/30/2010 12:20:23 AM | message detail
Majora's Mask making it to Division Finals.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2010 12:20:33 AM | message detail
Like I said, I still think there could be a possibility that Pokemon games can be more tied to the hip than something like, say, a Zelda or Final Fantasy. I also still think there's still a possibility that the 4ways helped Pokemon out, and that DPP would be doing better than a 55/45 split against Fusion if you threw two other games in there. Once again, these are just theories, and I could be wrong. It's very confusing, and that's why I had a stretch with Pokemon making the finals and another stretch with it losing to Majora's Mask.
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ZFS | Posted 10/30/2010 12:20:39 AM | message detail
I think FFX is in trouble anyway, but probably !

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ZFS | Posted 10/30/2010 12:22:03 AM | message detail
What'd you end up sticking with? I think I have... yeah, I went with MM > GSC.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 12:22:06 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #239
I also still think there's still a possibility that the 4ways helped Pokemon out


After watching Pokemon characters in the last Character Battle, I don't really agree with this.

I mean, I know characters =/= games, but this feels like a stretch.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 10/30/2010 12:22:37 AM | message detail
If you took GSC over FFX, you're an idiot. GSC got annihilated by Xenogears last time we saw it in a one vs one match
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 12:23:42 AM | message detail
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2010 12:24:28 AM | message detail
Happy medium. Pokemon making it to FFX and losing. If it gets through Majora's Mask, I'm very confident it will make it to FFX, but the Majora showdown has had me worried since the start.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 12:26:01 AM | message detail
I still don't understand why people give so much credit to Majora's Mask.

But I hope it beats G/S/C anyway so Wind Waker can beat it.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 10/30/2010 12:26:30 AM | message detail
Majora's Mask really got destroyed last contest so even GSC should be able to take it. But MGS4 is not going to lose to a game that got mass-murdered by Xenogears. Good thing I have MGS4 > GSC. MGS4 would mop the floor with Major'as Mask
kinsho3 | Posted 10/30/2010 12:28:43 AM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #163
If you took GSC over FFX, you're an idiot. GSC got annihilated by Xenogears last time we saw it in a one vs one match


Crap, I'm such an idiot.....

Though I'm still a tad bit surprised that a game that got annihilated by Xenogears put up a pretty decent fight against MGS in the last games contest....
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2010 12:31:21 AM | message detail
The Zelda fanbase is one of those things I think I have a pretty good handle on, and I just see them siding with Majora. I think it can hit or even exceed 40% on RBY in a 1v1 match, and RBY is still a contender for the #3 slot around here. I think the main reason it's not being treated as the favorite against WW (unless it is; I'm not sure), is because it actually surprised us and cost us points last time. If we had expected RBY to be a top-3 contender and win easily, then the board wouldn't be down on MM right now. Wind Waker's 34-35% on Melee was pretty bad in its own right, let's be fair here. Remember back when that near-doubling was a debated match?
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Hochimihnister | Posted 10/30/2010 12:31:29 AM | message detail
Though I'm still a tad bit surprised that a game that got annihilated by Xenogears put up a pretty decent fight against MGS in the last games contest....

MGS was being drained by another PSX powerhouse known as FFT. But it doesn't matter. Putting up a decent fight against MGS is meaningless. FFX would mass-murder MGS