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IngmarBirdman | Posted 10/30/2010 9:43:59 AM | message detail
Wow wtf, since when did the game / series that got doubled by FFTA and managed to get last in a 4-way with Disgaea get this popular? I thought this match was a coin flip.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:44:40 AM | message detail
FE7/Tony Hawk is probably going to be like a... 60/40 situation. It's kind of a similar match set-up with the FE versus non-standard sport... difference being Tony Hawk was a well-respected series for a while and should be a fair bit stronger than No Mercy
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/30/2010 9:45:15 AM | message detail

From: MoogleKupo141 | #452
FE7/Tony Hawk is probably going to be like a... 60/40 situation. It's kind of a similar match set-up with the FE versus non-standard sport... difference being Tony Hawk was a well-respected series for a while and should be a fair bit stronger than No Mercy


THPS2 was also a much more acclaimed game than WWF No Mercy
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:46:32 AM | message detail
Yeah, the major difference here is that people actually LIKE Tony Hawk.
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xp1337 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:48:01 AM | message detail
From: IngmarBirdman | #451
Wow wtf, since when did the game / series that got doubled by FFTA and managed to get last in a 4-way with Disgaea get this popular? I thought this match was a coin flip.

FFTA is both a Final Fantasy and a SRPG, not the greatest opponent for FE7.

The Disgaea/FE/Melee/WW match was quite possibly the worst possible matchup you could conceive for FE7, outside of something absurd like swapping WW for OoT and Disgaea for like FFT. I maintain that Melee is the single worst opponent for FE7, remember, Melee pretty much single-handedly got FE7 released in America. If that SFF wasn't enough, we had a Zelda game in the poll. If THAT wasn't enough, Disgaea was there to split what remaining SRPG votes were left.

...Anyway, after this match, does anyone take FE9 to be the strongest Fire Emblem game? OR did you already? I always felt FE9 would be stronger than FE7, but I think it was a minority opinion. This match change anything?
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GotD (17/21) No Mercy v FE: PoR
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/30/2010 9:48:26 AM | message detail
Well THPS2 is one of the most critically acclaimed and influential games of all time, and back in '04 Gamespy called it the 2nd most memorable game of the past 5 years, only behind Soulcalibur....

Oh wait, this is GameFAQs, where sports games will never be worth a darn. Darn! Oh yeah I remember Gamespy's list...they had both Battlefield: 1942 and Codename: Eagle in the top 5, and GTAIII was the remaining top 5 position I haven't mentioned.

Completely off topic and it's too late for me to mention it I suppose: I had a lot of fun in Metroid Prime trying to figure out how to minimize backtracking. Seriously. That's where a good chunk of my fun playing the game came from, probably moreso than any other game in that series.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/30/2010 9:48:39 AM | message detail
Said it before, saying it again now. FE losing this was one of the more ridiculous picks people were hyping up. Just because a game is established as pretty weak doesn't mean any random **** can come along and beat it. We saw that already with Deus Ex, seeing it again now. I'd always rely on the one that guaranteed to be pretty weak over the one thats probably pretty weak though might be roflmao weak, which is very much the case here with No Mercy putting up a strong case for weakest game in the contest.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:49:12 AM | message detail
There was never any doubt in my mind that PoR was the strongest FE.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/30/2010 9:50:29 AM | message detail
7 is the strongest one.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/30/2010 9:51:47 AM | message detail
I would take PoR>7.

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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/30/2010 9:52:09 AM | message detail
As someone who enjoyed both, I'd take PoR to marginally be the better game.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/30/2010 9:54:51 AM | message detail
PoR was such a fan favourite it even got its own direct sequel, I'm not sure if thats a first for a FE game though I'm pretty sure FE7 never did. I may be wrong.
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xp1337 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:54:54 AM | message detail
From: UltimaterializerX | #459
7 is the strongest one.

Why do you think that though? I know it was the first one and all (in America, at least), but if on one hand we can count being on a handheld as opposed to a console as a negative, why does FE7 seemingly get a pass from this?

And as much as I hate to resort to this kind of thing, Ike was in Brawl, so if that counts for anything, it should help FE9.

I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if FE7 was stronger than FE9, but I guess I've always just been puzzled why it seemed like this was taken for granted.
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GotD (17/21) No Mercy v FE: PoR
Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/30/2010 9:55:10 AM | message detail

From: xp1337 | #455
From: IngmarBirdman | #451
The Disgaea/FE/Melee/WW match was quite possibly the worst possible matchup you could conceive for FE7, outside of something absurd like swapping WW for OoT and Disgaea for like FFT. I maintain that Melee is the single worst opponent for FE7, remember, Melee pretty much single-handedly got FE7 released in America. If that SFF wasn't enough, we had a Zelda game in the poll. If THAT wasn't enough, Disgaea was there to split what remaining SRPG votes were left.


Which makes it all the more baffling that people switched out Golden Sun for ****ing Fire Emblem.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/30/2010 9:55:47 AM | message detail

From: __Smurf__ | #462
PoR was such a fan favourite it even got its own direct sequel, I'm not sure if thats a first for a FE game though I'm pretty sure FE7 never did. I may be wrong.


FE7 did get a sequel. It's called FE6.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:55:51 AM | message detail
Tripling imminent.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/30/2010 9:56:02 AM | message detail
The FE games series has a ton of prequel/sequels. 1->3, 7->6, 9->10, 4->Thracia, ect.

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/30/2010 9:56:03 AM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #464
Which makes it all the more baffling that people switched out Golden Sun for ****ing Fire Emblem.


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Chaotic Mind | Posted 10/30/2010 9:56:25 AM | message detail

From: Justin_Crossing | #440
Are you seriously trying to compare the two matches? It would be SHOCKING if anybody hadn't played at least one of Halo 3/Sunshine. I would not be shocked at all if anybody hadn't played both Demon's Souls or Mega Man 9. The people who haven't played either are going to vote Mega Man because of the recognizable franchise. That's where the issue with this VC/Disgaea lies. Where do the people who haven't played either vote?


I haven't played either DS or MM9, and i voted DS. And i love MM games.

I haven't played VC or Disgaea. I'm going to vote Disgaea.
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xp1337 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:56:40 AM | message detail
From: __Smurf__ | #462
PoR was such a fan favourite it even got its own direct sequel, I'm not sure if thats a first for a FE game though I'm pretty sure FE7 never did. I may be wrong.

FE7 is itself a sequel to FE6, but FE6 was never released in America. Also, I think FE3 is a sequel to FE1, and maybe even FE5 to FE4.

Out of the ones released in America though, yeah, FE9 -> FE10 is the only pair released here.
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GotD (17/21) No Mercy v FE: PoR
xp1337 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:57:17 AM | message detail
Er, FE7 is a prequel to FE6, my mistake.
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GotD (17/21) No Mercy v FE: PoR
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:57:21 AM | message detail
PoR was such a fan favourite it even got its own direct sequel, I'm not sure if thats a first for a FE game though I'm pretty sure FE7 never did. I may be wrong.

I think it's actually extremely common. FE and FE2 I believe are both Marth games, FE7 is the prequel to FE6... and then we have FE9 and 10. For all I know, 3/4/5 might be connected to each other in some way as well, I know nothing abou tthem.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/30/2010 9:57:44 AM | message detail

From: Chaotic Mind | #469
I haven't played either DS or MM9, and i voted DS. And i love MM games.

I haven't played VC or Disgaea. I'm going to vote Disgaea.


I didn't know you were representing everyone who hadn't played any of those games.

Hell, I don't know how you couldn't have played at least two of those. Do you even like video games?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/30/2010 9:57:48 AM | message detail
I just think games that first introduce people to a new universe have a series advantage in a contest like this. It's why I picked Melee > Brawl, KH1 > 2 and fear my MGS4 > 3 pick is wrong. God of War 1 probably beats 2 as well. Path of Radiance is the best game in this bracket and I wouldn't want it to lose to 7, but it probably would.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/30/2010 9:58:25 AM | message detail

From: Chaotic Mind | #469
I haven't played either DS or MM9, and i voted DS. And i love MM games.

I haven't played VC or Disgaea. I'm going to vote Disgaea.


You support monarchies don't you.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 10/30/2010 9:58:41 AM | message detail

From: xp1337 | #455
...Anyway, after this match, does anyone take FE9 to be the strongest Fire Emblem game? OR did you already? I always felt FE9 would be stronger than FE7, but I think it was a minority opinion. This match change anything?


I always felt FE9 would be stronger. For one, FE9 is better. For two, console game usually trumps handheld game.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/30/2010 9:58:41 AM | message detail
9 and 7 are universally considered the top 2 Fire Emblem games amongst the fanbase and the order of those two changes depending on the person. FE7 has the advantage of coming first, and FE9 has the advantage of being probably the last great game discounting Twilight Princess on the Gamecube. Plus I think it was more popular outside of Japan, maybe.

I'd say they're about equal, not sure what I'd pick between the two. Definitely about the same though. TH2 is also probably a lot stronger than No Mercy, but not enough so.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/30/2010 9:59:08 AM | message detail
PoR and FE have pretty much the same sales, acclaim, and love among the fanbase. In that sort of case, I think I'm just going to side with the console game over the handheld.

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pjbasis | Posted 10/30/2010 9:59:37 AM | message detail
You don't support monarchies?

I guess I'm the only one trying to bring back the One True King to Power,
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/30/2010 10:00:16 AM | message detail
I just woke up, all I have to say is

XFD
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IngmarBirdman | Posted 10/30/2010 10:01:52 AM | message detail
I'm not convinced No Mercy will be the weakest game in the contest. Mother 3 is gonna look terrible when Fallout 3 goes 75%+ on DMC3. Though DPP probably goes 58% on FE.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/30/2010 10:02:32 AM | message detail
Twilight Princess isn't a great game, so there you go.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/30/2010 10:02:52 AM | message detail

From: IngmarBirdman | #481
I'm not convinced No Mercy will be the weakest game in the contest. Mother 3 is gonna look terrible when Fallout 3 goes 75%+ on DMC3. Though DPP probably goes 58% on FE.


xfd thinking dmc3 manages to get to fallout 3
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/30/2010 10:03:51 AM | message detail
I think it's actually extremely common. FE and FE2 I believe are both Marth games, FE7 is the prequel to FE6... and then we have FE9 and 10. For all I know, 3/4/5 might be connected to each other in some way as well, I know nothing abou tthem.

FE3 has two parts. The first is a remake of FE1 and the second is a sequel to FE1. FE4 and FE5 are connected to each other but are unrelated to to the other Fire Emblem games storywise. FE5 takes place in the middle of FE4.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 10/30/2010 10:04:19 AM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | #473
I didn't know you were representing everyone who hadn't played any of those games.

Hell, I don't know how you couldn't have played at least two of those. Do you even like video games?


Never said i was representing everyone.

And i haven't played any of those because i have a huge backlog of games i own but haven't played. Disgaea is among them. I will probably download MM9 eventually. Demon's Souls is probably going to be the first game i buy when i finally get around to buying a ps3 (assuming i don't win one this contest *fingers crossed*). VC... is very low on my list of games to play.
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IngmarBirdman | Posted 10/30/2010 10:04:40 AM | message detail
My bad, wrong #1 seed, same percentage. (Since you mostly don't have to think about them for three matches.)

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xp1337 | Posted 10/30/2010 10:04:42 AM | message detail
From: UltimaterializerX | #474
I just think games that first introduce people to a new universe have a series advantage in a contest like this. It's why I picked Melee > Brawl, KH1 > 2 and fear my MGS4 > 3 pick is wrong. God of War 1 probably beats 2 as well. Path of Radiance is the best game in this bracket and I wouldn't want it to lose to 7, but it probably would.

Fair enough. If they were both GCN games, I might be more inclined to go with that, but as it is, I'll take GCN > GBA as a bigger factor. Plus, I'm a little uncomfortable with making a broad statement that an earlier game will tend to have an advantage. However, I could totally see being wrong on that, we'll just have to see.

I admit that some of my support for FE9 > FE7 is likely because I like it more than FE7 (though I love FE7 too) but I really do think it has the edge.
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GotD (17/21) No Mercy v FE: PoR
tgs2 | Posted 10/30/2010 10:04:49 AM | message detail
I still think No Mercy could beat Infamous and Guitar Hero. Barely, but at least it isn't the worst out there now.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/30/2010 10:05:44 AM | message detail
No Mercy beating Infamous means that PoR puts up a fight against Fallout 3.

I'm okay with this.

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xp1337 | Posted 10/30/2010 10:06:34 AM | message detail
From: KamikazePotato | #489
No Mercy beating Infamous means that PoR puts up a fight against Fallout 3.

I'm okay with this.


I'm more than okay with this!
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GotD (17/21) No Mercy v FE: PoR
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/30/2010 10:06:53 AM | message detail
The heck? But I already said earlier that I will NEVER EVER UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE HERE ARE SAYING THAT TWILIGHT PRINCESS IS A BAD GAME!!! IT'S 8/10 AT ABSOLUTE WORST!!!

Not that I agree with Twilight Princess > Ocarina of Time at all...then again I think Metroid Prime > Mario 64 is a bad opinion as well.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 10:07:04 AM | message detail
My faith in the manliness of this site has plummeted. I fully expect Tingle to win the next Character Battle now.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/30/2010 10:08:49 AM | message detail
Ike is manlier than any wrestler.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 10:09:01 AM | message detail

From: creativename | #301
But trying to attack predictors (seriously?) rather than the actual game that is performing crappily, is just emotional defensiveness.


What, emotional defensiveness?

I want Pokemon G/S/C to look crappy and lose as soon as possible!

But people expecting a lot out of D/P/P didn't really examine the facts very well, I think. It's still a pretty sorry performance, but to take what Board 8 thought about this and say "Oh no G/S/C is in trouble because Board 8 didn't predict this match well" is silly.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/30/2010 10:09:08 AM | message detail
Also I'm not buying the Gamecube being a bigger system than the GBA.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2010 10:09:25 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #493
Ike is manlier than any wrestler.


Turn in your man card.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/30/2010 10:09:33 AM | message detail
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Look at those goddamn neck muscles.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/30/2010 10:10:02 AM | message detail
Only The Undertaker would stand a chance against Ike, and that's if he no-sells everything.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/30/2010 10:10:14 AM | message detail
Play EarthBound.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/30/2010 10:10:26 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #497
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Look at those goddamn neck muscles.


A teacher at my school used to be the fittest man in Canada, and his neck totally thrashes Ike's.
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