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Achromatic | Posted 10/29/2010 10:14:12 AM | message detail
Don't worry guys, Prince has got this!

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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

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~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
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~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/29/2010 11:11:19 AM | message detail
Call of Duty begins its fall from grace, just like GTA and Halo before it.

Mainstream games meant for casuals (Halo, Madden, GTA) don't perform well here, so it was only a matter of time before Call of Duty fell back down to Earth.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/29/2010 11:14:12 AM | message detail
this match makes me feel like Dissidia has a chance.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/29/2010 11:14:34 AM | message detail
hihi
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abdou | Posted 10/29/2010 11:18:22 AM | message detail
FF in a night match + huge pic advantage , of course it has a chance. MW2 will have to bring its AAA performance.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 11:20:00 AM | message detail
Not to mention MW1 here is pretty far behind WC3/Morrowind in terms of votals, and thats a bad sign. MW isn't the type of game to draw in the voters... but do you know what is? A pic of Cloud. Plus MW2 should be weaker. It had a lot of backlash, plus lower seeding even though its the newer game. This is a prime upset.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/29/2010 11:22:44 AM | message detail
Glad to see PoP isn't getting completely buried.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 11:23:53 AM | message detail
Actually checking the game pages here...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/939212-call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare
http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/951944-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2

Yeah, I'm very confident in MW1 > MW2 here.
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pjbasis | Posted 10/29/2010 11:35:29 AM | message detail
Dissidia > MW2 CONFIRMED
HaRRicH | Posted 10/29/2010 11:36:14 AM | message detail
Albion, would you like to make a two-week ToS-friendly sig-bet off my prediction that Dissidia won't break 45% on MW2?
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abdou | Posted 10/29/2010 11:37:01 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/939394-dissidia-final-fantasy
http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/951944-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2

Dissidia has an 8.9 score from 2258 user votes, better than MW2's 8.3 score from 2571 votes. Even reader reviews favor Dissidia. The average gamefaqs user likes Dissidia, so its not as hated as some of you claim. Its also a Final Fantasy game.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 11:37:32 AM | message detail
Albion, would you like to make a two-week ToS-friendly sig-bet off my prediction that Dissidia won't break 45% on MW2?

Sure, 1 line okay?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/29/2010 11:39:29 AM | message detail
One's fine with me!
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 11:42:03 AM | message detail
Sounds good! I look forward to giving you a nice new sig!
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pjbasis | Posted 10/29/2010 11:42:31 AM | message detail
I just don't see how FINAL FANTASY can lose to MODERN WARFARE.

CoD fans will vote MW2. Everyone else Dissidia.

It's simple math!
MonocledFalcon | Posted 10/29/2010 11:43:39 AM | message detail
people don't vote for games just because of their title. Sunshine should have made that clear to you. It's a pretty similar situation with Dissidia/MW2
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/29/2010 11:45:07 AM | message detail
Either way, there's no way that one isn't going to be close at this point. You'd have to be extremely foolish to think either game gets over 55%. Especially with the way this contest has gone.

this contest.
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/29/2010 11:45:31 AM | message detail
FF in a night match + huge pic advantage , of course it has a chance. MW2 will have to bring its AAA performance.

I was going to write up a long rant about why this is wrong. But instead I'm just going to say:

LOL no.
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 11:45:42 AM | message detail
Then I can counter with Mega Man 9. People voted for that because of its title, even though I'm sure a good amount of its voters never played it. And Halo isn't really anti voted these days, but MW2 is probably the 2nd biggest bait for anti votes in this contest (behind WoW). That game is the face of everything wrong with Activision.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/29/2010 11:45:52 AM | message detail
The only problem with that logic is Dissidia is a terrible game, I'm still going to vote for it because well the alternative is CoD but it doesn't change the fact that it is a lousy game.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/29/2010 11:47:17 AM | message detail
*logs in, sees results*

Yeeees, PoP keeping it respectable. Good job, GameFAQs.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/29/2010 11:47:53 AM | message detail

From: abdou | #011
http://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/939394-dissidia-final-fantasy
http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/951944-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2

Dissidia has an 8.9 score from 2258 user votes, better than MW2's 8.3 score from 2571 votes. Even reader reviews favor Dissidia. The average gamefaqs user likes Dissidia, so its not as hated as some of you claim. Its also a Final Fantasy game.


Reminds me I forgot to rate that game a 2 in My Games. Thanks.
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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2010 11:48:08 AM | message detail
Everyone else Dissidia.

I don't think so.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/29/2010 11:48:37 AM | message detail
Yeah MM9 was actually well received Albion, so everyone that actually did play it was going to vote it.

Not so for Dissidia. Plenty of folks that played it hated it and will vote against it.

We're just going to have to hope that the fact that the ones who have played neither will vote for it, and I think there's a pretty good shot there.
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MonocledFalcon | Posted 10/29/2010 11:49:28 AM | message detail
Then I can counter with Mega Man 9. People voted for that because of its title, even though I'm sure a good amount of its voters never played it. And Halo isn't really anti voted these days, but MW2 is probably the 2nd biggest bait for anti votes in this contest (behind WoW). That game is the face of everything wrong with Activision.

That situation is less analogous because it's two games that most of the site has never played. MM's name recognition put it against something people had no opinion on. Halo 3/MW2 are both huge games that people actually played.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 11:49:50 AM | message detail
Not so for Dissidia. Plenty of folks that played it hated it and will vote against it.

You think the Japanophiles would rather vote for the most casual/mainstream FPS out there instead? Even if you hate Dissidia, I think they'd rather not vote at all then vote for MW2, since its like the opposite type of game that Japanophiles like.
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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2010 11:50:35 AM | message detail
If your argument rests with "Japanophiles," you're in rough waters.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/29/2010 11:51:12 AM | message detail
I agree with you though. I think Dissidia, in a night match, especially after seeing MW1 underperform right here, is going to take that match 52-48 or something.


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abdou | Posted 10/29/2010 11:51:13 AM | message detail
I was going to write up a long rant about why this is wrong. But instead I'm just going to say:

LOL no.


I was going to write up a long rant about why you are wrong. But instead I'm just going to say:

LMAO no.
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Achromatic | Posted 10/29/2010 11:53:24 AM | message detail
Also, odd poll I just remembered:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728

means little I am sure, but huh.
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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2010 11:53:54 AM | message detail
I would be surprised at the reaction here, but I think it's normal for the stats topic all things considered. Given how the rest of this contest has gone, and the almost retroactive appreciation and adoration that Sands of Time has gotten, I wouldn't start calling for Dissidia, of all games, to be anything noteworthy. That's not even a name at work -- no one who is a fan of Final Fantasy will blindly vote for that, not anymore than they will blindly see Crisis Core through FFXII because of "Final Fantasy VII." I get the sense most people here didn't play Dissidia, that they don't know exactly what this game is like and why it won't receive the votes people are expecting. Legend of Dragoon part 2 incoming.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/29/2010 11:57:21 AM | message detail
And now CoD4 is really starting to take off now. Those last 2 updates were brutal.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 11:59:01 AM | message detail
HM, whats the point of even discussing the contest if you keep the exact same view points on matches regardless of the results? The results will always tell us stuff that can help us decide future matches, and to think that they won't is just ignorant. Right now we're seeing Call of Duty 4 struggling to beat up an action game that should be significantly weaker than a game like Ninja Gaiden. Thats really telling, especially when Modern Warfare 2 should be the weaker of the two. I don't know about you, but I would take Dissidia to kill Prince of Persia. Or do you actually think Prince of Persia beats Dissidia?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/29/2010 12:00:04 PM | message detail
I would have taken Sands of Time over Ninja Gaiden easily, even before this result.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/29/2010 12:00:23 PM | message detail
And it would beat Dissdia fairly easily, too.

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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/29/2010 12:00:41 PM | message detail
You're essentially looking at a terrible game vs a so-so heavily overrated game with an awful fanbase. And depending on who reads that they may have a different view which is which, lol.

In the end hating on a game because its just plain **** is a reason I'd bank on more than the masses anti-voting something because they don't like the people who play it. And while I'd never enjoy seeing CoD beating FF it'd be a case of losing the battle, winning the war for this since I'd prefer for the better game to win and not anti/joke/rally/fanboy voting present to ruin another contest.

tl;dr: both games shouldn't be here. have at ye, nominators.

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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 12:01:14 PM | message detail
So you think Dissidia is bottom of the barrel fodder? Even with the name Final Fantasy, and with an all-star cast of FF characters on the box art? Cuz thats the only way a Prince of Persia game is "Beating Dissidia farily easily"
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Achromatic | Posted 10/29/2010 12:01:55 PM | message detail
COD is starting to open the can of whoopass.
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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2010 12:01:56 PM | message detail
Call of Duty 4 struggling to beat up an action game that should be significantly weaker than a game like Ninja Gaiden.

Prince of Persia would have beaten Ninja Gaiden with room to spare. It's not at all weaker, or less popular, than Ninja Gaiden. I know you'll probably link to some 2003 poll, but 2003 is not 2010.

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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 12:02:14 PM | message detail
Also after seeing this ASV so far, MW2 is even unluckier to get a night match. MW1 is ripping **** up now.
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ZFS | Posted 10/29/2010 12:02:56 PM | message detail
Or do you actually think Prince of Persia beats Dissidia?

Yep -- worse than it'd beat Ninja Gaiden. Dissidia is not popular.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/29/2010 12:04:08 PM | message detail
I don't know how strong Dissidia is, but I'd definitely takes SoT over NG without thinking twice about it.

Also, hello there ASV. Too bad MW2 won't have that in its match.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 12:06:21 PM | message detail
If you really want to think that some old action game that has never shown itself to be anything more than junk on this site beats a FF fanservice game, then I guess thats that.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/29/2010 12:10:10 PM | message detail
A FF fanservice game that hasn't done ****, sure.
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MonocledFalcon | Posted 10/29/2010 12:14:04 PM | message detail
other notable powerhouses in Albion's mind: Erhgeiz. Chocobo Racing. FFVII Snowboarding
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/29/2010 12:15:49 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #035
And it would beat Dissdia fairly easily, too.


oh dear
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voltch | Posted 10/29/2010 12:26:49 PM | message detail
Dissidia..is popular?
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/29/2010 12:30:35 PM | message detail
So you think Dissidia is bottom of the barrel fodder? Even with the name Final Fantasy, and with an all-star cast of FF characters on the box art? Cuz thats the only way a Prince of Persia game is "Beating Dissidia farily easily"

Dissidia won't put up any more of a fight than SMS did on Halo 3. It's a genuinely bad fighting game, and I've seen approximately zero discussion about it since about a month after its release. The Final Fantasy apathy vote will be the majority of its votals, which won't count for much.

You're seriously overestimating franchise power in a contest that's proven time and time again that franchise only stretches so far.
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/29/2010 12:32:53 PM | message detail
other notable powerhouses in Albion's mind: Erhgeiz. Chocobo Racing. FFVII Snowboarding

To be honest, FFVII Snowboarding would make a pretty good joke nomination.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/29/2010 12:39:56 PM | message detail
You guys are writing off Dissidia wayyy too easily at this point, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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