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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/27/2010 9:25:12 AM | message detail
GTA3 will beat HL2.

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transience | Posted 10/27/2010 9:25:13 AM | message detail
the real test will be how high HL2 can go on GTA3. this isn't saying much but it certainly doesn't hurt its case.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 9:27:13 AM | message detail
If HL2 > GoW and L4D > L4D2, there doesn't necessarily have to be...though I agree there should be SFF. Still, I understood L4D-fans were real loyal, plus neither L4D-game is part of the Orange Box deal, so SFF still might not be a big factor here. I wanna see how GoW does on HL2 before I start making guesses on how much L4D2 may be SFF'd.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/27/2010 9:27:43 AM | message detail
To be fair, L4D(2) had a 360 release that wasn't overshadowed by the PC version.
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transience | Posted 10/27/2010 9:29:10 AM | message detail
well, I think L4D2 is a mile weaker than L4D. remember Ellis?
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/27/2010 9:29:21 AM | message detail
Harrich, you just don't understand Valve, so don't try to act like you do. This is a 100% SFF match. Valve fanbase is just as fanatical if not more fanatical than Nintendo, so they play every single game Valve releases.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/27/2010 9:29:56 AM | message detail
well, I think L4D2 is a mile weaker than L4D. remember Ellis?

We've never seen any other L4D character in a match, so whos to say that they'd all not be incredibly weak? Its not really a character driven game like TF2 is.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/27/2010 9:30:01 AM | message detail
well, I think L4D2 is a mile weaker than L4D. remember Ellis?

and remember the L4D1 character who was in the contest?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/27/2010 9:30:27 AM | message detail
If HL2 > GoW and L4D > L4D2, there doesn't necessarily have to be...though I agree there should be SFF. Still, I understood L4D-fans were real loyal, plus neither L4D-game is part of the Orange Box deal, so SFF still might not be a big factor here. I wanna see how GoW does on HL2 before I start making guesses on how much L4D2 may be SFF'd.

Valve fans are Valve fans. They are incredibly loyal to Valve games. But within it's own community, HL2 is head and shoulders above every other Valve game (including Portal).
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/27/2010 9:32:40 AM | message detail
Yeah. This is a division-winning result.

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transience | Posted 10/27/2010 9:33:17 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3358

L4D got a higher percentage in probably a stronger year. L4D made a splash when it came out - L4D2 was just another sequel that came and went quickly.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/27/2010 9:34:40 AM | message detail
Yeah. This is a division-winning result.

since when do we take anything seriously from a SFF match of this caliber? The top Valve game vs. the weakest Valve game was always gonna be a blowout. I predicted 80% here and I wouldn't have handed Half Life 2 anything. The only thing we could have taken from this is that Half Life 2 was in trouble if it couldn't outdo what GoW did on L4D 1.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/27/2010 9:35:09 AM | message detail
L4D2's year was much stronger than L4D's. With that said, L4D2 came out on the same day/weekend as Assassin's Creed 2, and that really overshadowed it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 9:35:11 AM | message detail

From: transience | #405
well, I think L4D2 is a mile weaker than L4D. remember Ellis?


Right, but I don't think we've seen any L4D-characters except maybe in that vote-in that had two characters from the series, and does anybody expect a L4D-character to do much better than Ellis?


From: NoDicePwn | #406
Harrich, you just don't understand Valve, so don't try to act like you do. This is a 100% SFF match. Valve fanbase is just as fanatical if not more fanatical than Nintendo, so they play every single game Valve releases.


Don't be a dick. I've got the Orange Box and enjoyed its three games, I've played L4D for a bit, and I use Steam. I'm not Valve-fan #1, but don't diss me on this because I'm simply open to the idea that there may not be as much SFF as everyone thinks. That's a BT-move, Albion.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/27/2010 9:37:07 AM | message detail
I would take Zoey or Louis's performances over Ellis's, even if you assume Zoey and Louis had zero overlap. Ellis got tripled by Shepard.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/27/2010 9:37:27 AM | message detail
Then don't act like you know all about how Valve fans think. The fact that we're getting like 400 votes an update even now when the match is on the front page 100% is more than enough to show this is just SFF.
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transience | Posted 10/27/2010 9:38:22 AM | message detail
this is a SFF match but it's also obvious HL2 is a mile above L4D2 in strength. L4D1 already showed how weak the series is, getting doubled by God of War.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 9:38:57 AM | message detail
I dunno how much L4D2 was really over-shadowed -- it had a $25,000,000 advertising campaign and a catchy commercial.

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AC2's bigger here and mostly elsewhere, sure, but I don't think over-shadowed is a good term here.
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transience | Posted 10/27/2010 9:41:06 AM | message detail
yeah, L4D2 wasn't affected by AC2 at all. different types of games. if anything it was overshadowed by Modern Warfare 2. people were never too enthused about L4D2 since it came out so soon after L4D, especially considering Valve is a company that is known for supporting their games long after release.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/27/2010 9:44:43 AM | message detail
The fact that we're getting like 400 votes an update even now when the match is on the front page 100% is more than enough to show this is just SFF.

And now we are getting 500 votes an update already. Would have taken a bit of time for that to happen after the match is finally on the homepage, considering the match problem lasted for almost 30 minutes.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 10/27/2010 9:46:10 AM | message detail
So has Half-Life 2 any change to win the division?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 9:46:20 AM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #416
Then don't act like you know all about how Valve fans think. The fact that we're getting like 400 votes an update even now when the match is on the front page 100% is more than enough to show this is just SFF.


If anything, I've been the most indecisive about what Valve's doing here. Show me where I "act like I know all about how Valve fans think." I'll make it easy for you:

From: HaRRicH | #397
Yep, all HL2 had to do really was outdo GoW's percentage on L4D to continue looking like it did pre-contest: somewhat-stronger than GoW. L4D2 should probably be weaker than L4D, but not by a mile or anything...and since L4D2's a newcomer and in a position to be SFF'd (whether it is or isn't is debatable), it's hard to take anything else from this match than HL2 doing what it needed to do to keep its pre-contest reputation strong.

R1 in this division has been much more about HL2's opponents than HL2 anyway.


From: HaRRicH | #403
If HL2 > GoW and L4D > L4D2, there doesn't necessarily have to be...though I agree there should be SFF. Still, I understood L4D-fans were real loyal, plus neither L4D-game is part of the Orange Box deal, so SFF still might not be a big factor here. I wanna see how GoW does on HL2 before I start making guesses on how much L4D2 may be SFF'd.


From: HaRRicH | #414
I've got the Orange Box and enjoyed its three games, I've played L4D for a bit, and I use Steam. I'm not Valve-fan #1, but don't diss me on this because I'm simply open to the idea that there may not be as much SFF as everyone thinks.




I dunno how right or wrong I am, but neither do you. I've admitted I'm in wait-n-see mode until HL2 faces GoW, and you're still being a dick about how I know it all about Valve? I've never said that, so get over yourself. What's your problem?
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/27/2010 9:46:53 AM | message detail
Oh its got a great chance, but this match doesn't change anything. Next round against GTA3 should be a much better show of its strength.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/27/2010 9:47:12 AM | message detail
Half-Life 2 has the same chance it did going into this match. The only way its chances would have changed would have been if it bombed.

See: DMC3/Mother 3 <_<
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/27/2010 9:51:06 AM | message detail
I'm not so sure L4D2 is the weakest valve game. I'd feel gutsy enough to take it over TF2.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/27/2010 9:52:41 AM | message detail
I kinda wonder how Counter Strike Source would do. I think I'd take it over the L4D games. It wouldn't be as strong as CS 1.6, but that was like 99 so just missed the cut.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 9:54:57 AM | message detail
After as much good the Orange Box has done for Gordon and Portal and for as easy it would be for Spy/Heavy to beat Ellis/Louis/Zoey, not to mention the seeding differences this contest...I gotta take TF2 against either L4D-game.
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transience | Posted 10/27/2010 9:56:14 AM | message detail
the TF2 guys have so much more personality than the L4D guys, even to those who haven't played the games. L4D over TF2 makes sense to me, not sure about L4D2.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 9:59:08 AM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #426
I kinda wonder how Counter Strike Source would do. I think I'd take it over the L4D games. It wouldn't be as strong as CS 1.6, but that was like 99 so just missed the cut.


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#31: Half-Life - PC
#49: Half-Life: Counter-Strike - PC
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2007 - http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2796

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/27/2010 10:00:18 AM | message detail
After as much good the Orange Box has done for Gordon and Portal and for as easy it would be for Spy/Heavy to beat Ellis/Louis/Zoey, not to mention the seeding differences this contest...I gotta take TF2 against either L4D-game.

The main reason Orange Box helped Gordon and Portal was because it introduced them to console gamers. TF2, on the other hand, was a laggy mess on consoles that nobody played. It's the main reason I felt iffy taking it over Fable.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/27/2010 10:00:55 AM | message detail
lol arguing with Albion about anything
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/27/2010 10:01:44 AM | message detail
lol arguing with Albion about anything

Are you saying this is a totally SFF free match then?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/27/2010 10:02:28 AM | message detail
Oh, this is SFF. But if you set HL2=GoW, then L4D gets 67% on L4D2. That just isn't happening. I suppose it's up to you to decide whether or not this is more SFF or more HL2 being stronger than GoW.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 10:07:46 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #433
Oh, this is SFF. But if you set HL2=GoW, then L4D gets 67% on L4D2. That just isn't happening. I suppose it's up to you to decide whether or not this is more SFF or more HL2 being stronger than GoW.


There we go. Thank you. I've been with this being SFF since before the match started, I just think how much SFF remains to be seen. Could be a little, could be a lot. Hard to say with newcomers.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/27/2010 10:11:22 AM | message detail
BTW Harrich, I'm sorry about being a jerk. I just got kinda too into the argument I guess.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/27/2010 10:12:46 AM | message detail
No, I'm saying arguing with you is a waste of time and there are far better things to do. I couldn't possibly care less if this is an SFF match or not.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 10:23:09 AM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #435
BTW Harrich, I'm sorry about being a jerk. I just got kinda too into the argument I guess.


Apology accepted. Let's move on now.


It's a shame we can't really get much of anything on Portal before its first match. TF2 had a close match as expected, L4D got whipped but isn't part of the Orange Box and GoW had room to improve anyway, today's Valve-on-Valve...not really any other opportunity before Portal/Gears to see how it should do against probably FF12. I guess we can get a decent Square-read before then if we try comparing FF12 to FF9 and CC:FF7 to Dissidia or something, though I suspect both of those could over-rate FF12/CC:FF7. Not like we'd get a clear comparison like that either way.
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voltch | Posted 10/27/2010 10:38:01 AM | message detail
I would laugh so hard if Gears caused an upset out of the blue.
It can't be stranger than mother 3's showing.
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Just saw this from Wylvane in an earlier topic -
Hey creative, now that you're back, could you fix the cellphone poll page on your site? It doesn't show the results.

Fixed :) I forgot about that page. The URL in case anyone wants it is:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/poll.php
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transience | Posted 10/27/2010 10:49:12 AM | message detail
the Valve 'test' -- which I don't think is fair since Valve isn't one big supergame, HL2 and Portal are very separate entities -- will be the GTA3/HL2 match. that will happen before Portal's round 2.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/27/2010 10:57:17 AM | message detail
Ugh.

Well, I suppose it could be worse, but I really wanted to see HL2 get 80% here. Or at the very least match Fallout's performance against InFamous. As of right now, I'm still sort of feeling like it can take out GoW/Prime, but don't feel at all confident about it getting to the semi-final.

Although this match doesn't really help us out much because there's obviously some SFF involved... I just wish HL2 could really harness the SFF power and crush L4D2 into the ground.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/27/2010 10:58:49 AM | message detail
No, I'm saying arguing with you is a waste of time and there are far better things to do. I couldn't possibly care less if this is an SFF match or not.


Really?

It's kind of important. If this match has a lot of SFF in HL2's favor, your Fallout 3 > HL2 pick is pretty much set in stone. If not, then it's as up in the air as ever.

Of course you don't think there's any chance of FO3 losing before the semi-final so I guess you wouldn't care much.
The Real Truth | Posted 10/27/2010 11:01:15 AM | message detail
Fallout 3 isn't losing.

These results are expected and we learn nothing.

Right now, the favorite for the division finals should be Prime/GoW, with HL2, Okami and DMC3 all having a shot.
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The Real Truth | Posted 10/27/2010 11:03:38 AM | message detail
And this match doesn't just have "some sff." Yeah, just because a person has played HL2 doesn't mean they've played L4D, but the same can't be said about the reverse. If someone has played L4D, they've almost certainly played HL2.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/27/2010 11:04:01 AM | message detail
Okami and DMC3 don't really have a shot.

And Fallout has an okay chance of losing if InFamous just really sucks ass. I would take L4D2 > InFamous pretty comfortably. Plus you have to realize that FO3 overperformed compared to what it's going to be like once we get to that match(should HL2 be there).

And FO3/HL2 winner is going to get absolutely ROASTED by Melee

I can't wait to see that demolition.
HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 11:04:44 AM | message detail

From: The Real Truth | #443
Fallout 3 isn't losing.


FO3 on L4D last year: 64.79%
GoW on L4D yesterday: 65.29%
HL2 on L4D2 right now: 77.47%

FO3's by no means a lock. I'm sticking with it for now, but it's clearly got competition.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/27/2010 11:05:28 AM | message detail
I've played both L4D's and never touched a Half-Life.

Maybe I should get HL2 now that I have a viable gaming PC!

Anyways, I'm just saying that I was hoping for something a little more conclusive as opposed to "just as planned." Oh well, when HL2 smokes GTA3 next round, we'll get our answers!!
HaRRicH | Posted 10/27/2010 11:07:33 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #447
Maybe I should get HL2 now that I have a viable gaming PC!


Get the Orange Box. You'll get HL2 with its next two episodes (Ep. #2 being my favorite part of the HL2-saga), plus Portal and the constantly-updated TF2...and it's pretty cheap to buy them in that package.
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The Real Truth | Posted 10/27/2010 11:08:40 AM | message detail
Yeah Episode 2 and Portal are the best parts of TOB. TF2 will be really addicting if you get into it.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/27/2010 11:09:50 AM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #446
FO3 on L4D last year: 64.79%
GoW on L4D yesterday: 65.29%
HL2 on L4D2 right now: 77.47%

FO3's by no means a lock. I'm sticking with it for now, but it's clearly got competition.


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