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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/26/2010 9:07:35 AM | message detail
MP could lose to Okami.

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/26/2010 9:07:44 AM | message detail
TF2 won its coin-flip match so I don't see how Valve's stunk twice so far

TF2 needed rallies up the ass to survive Fable. Don't act like it won that match on anything remotely close to its own strength.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/26/2010 9:08:04 AM | message detail
Don't see anything in this division that can take it down. What result made MP look so weak?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3467

Losing to a GTA game kinda does that.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/26/2010 9:08:13 AM | message detail
I'm not worried about Kratos winning more than two matches. L4D is Valve's runt. Like TF2, it's another game made for multiplayer online play (although you can go solo). Half-Life and Portal are much more indicative of "true Valve." Gotta see those first.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/26/2010 9:08:30 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #451
MP could lose to Okami.


Mega Man > Mario vibes
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Achromatic | Posted 10/26/2010 9:08:33 AM | message detail
I'd be willing to make a 1000 word story promise topic (see: mm9 vs demon's souls) that MP takes this entire division <_<
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/26/2010 9:08:50 AM | message detail
Prime only got 56% on Half-Life six years ago, before the series was ever relevant on this site. If Half-Life 2 can't beat Metroid Prime, it's the biggest disappointment of the entire contest.
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voltch | Posted 10/26/2010 9:09:11 AM | message detail
oh dear, ToS not looking good vs God of War....wait a min, L4D is weaaaaaak!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/26/2010 9:09:35 AM | message detail
Why do I have a feeling that this division will end with an Okami/God of War final?

Okay, I also just realized that this is a DAY match, meaning that God of War should actually go UP from here. Neat, Left 4 Dead was actually a low midcarder according to last contest! So...

God of War (2009g) has a strength of 28.98 against Base Link.
Left 4 Dead (2009g) has a strength of 20.89 against Base Link.


God of War 63.96% 72,230
Left 4 Dead 36.04% 40,704
TOTAL VOTES 112,934

God of War wins with 63.96% of the vote!
A 31,526 vote margin of victory.

My god, and it's likely that the 2004-2006 division is overrated in the stats! LOL 4 Dead indeed.
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Solid_Mike86 | Posted 10/26/2010 9:10:02 AM | message detail
Can GTA3 beat LBP? I'm hoping so!
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Achromatic | Posted 10/26/2010 9:10:03 AM | message detail
Also the sick thing about me getting the ToS match wrong is I think I did a fairly good job of estimating Tales's strength, I think the lower than usual votals were in favor of tales there, tbh.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/26/2010 9:10:21 AM | message detail
You know, I do think people are overrating GoW based off of this-it's most likely just Left 4 Dead sucking.

That said, a doubling should put GoW ahead of ToS with a good 55% or so, assuming L4D2 is about as strong as the original, maybe a little weaker. But no, it's not going to take the division.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/26/2010 9:10:52 AM | message detail
Huge percentage cut. This match can end up pretty close to our expectations. GoW in the low 60s seemed common in the Oracle.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/26/2010 9:11:04 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3477

God of War > Fallout 3
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/26/2010 9:11:49 AM | message detail
Feels good to have Kratos not let me down in the opening rounds like last contest. I just pray it isn't TOO strong and beats HL2.
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Achromatic | Posted 10/26/2010 9:12:21 AM | message detail
For me god of war would need to get over 70% in this match before I even thought it had a chance in hell of taking down half life 2.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/26/2010 9:13:26 AM | message detail
So in terms of action game strengths.... which game is stronger, Mother 3 or Left 4 Dead?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/26/2010 9:13:27 AM | message detail
I've been telling people for weeks God of War vs Half-Life 2 would be close, but the stats topic loves their "LOLNO ULTI ACTION GAMES SUCK ON GAMEFAQS" mantra. I love when you people are wrong.

I thought God of War would be weak because I believed the whole "Action games suck on GameFAQs", since Ninja Gaiden and DMC3 bombed in their matches. 2 other factors went into lowballing God of War with my Oracle prediction. Among those are:

Left 4 Dead getting 35.21% against Fallout 3 in a round 1 match involving Halo 3 and Mass Effect. It is currently managing 33.31% against God of War and no way do I take God of War over Fallout 3. Halo 3 could have possibly affected Left 4 Dead's performance, but Halo 3 had 2 very consistent performances against Fallout 3 in the last Games contest.

Valve doing better on this site than a few years ago.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/26/2010 9:13:31 AM | message detail
I think L4D2 will be weaker than the first one, so I'm hoping for HL2 doubling there(barring any SFF either way!)
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pjbasis | Posted 10/26/2010 9:13:38 AM | message detail
Good thing I have it beating ToS.
Phew!
Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/26/2010 9:14:57 AM | message detail
Wait a second.

I know 2009 xstats are double lol and everything, but it looks like this match could end up close to what LinkMarioSamus posted. If it does, that means next round is still in contention assuming all three games have stayed stable.
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Achromatic | Posted 10/26/2010 9:15:01 AM | message detail
i guess I cant judge much as I thought re5 could beat ToS, but the fact that peopel had ToS getting more than 45% on GoW at any point to me is lunacy <<
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junk_funk | Posted 10/26/2010 9:15:10 AM | message detail
Compare how GoW does against L4D to how HL2 does against L4D2.

That should tell us who will win the division. Though I think L4D2 is weaker than its predecessor, but I have nothing to base that off of.

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Advokaiser | Posted 10/26/2010 9:15:33 AM | message detail
I'm sucking so hard at the battle challenge. I have 1600 banked points and 100 potential points. However I only have 3 mistakes in the bracket challenge.

I put ToS in the bracket and RE5 in the battle. It was obvious I had to lose in one or the other. I think I'll do the exact same thing on GoW/ToS, KH1/2, Brawl/Melee, Golden Sun/Ratchet & Clank, etc... depending on how it turns out.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/26/2010 9:16:04 AM | message detail
GoW trilogy is more mainstream than other action games in the contest. Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry 3 are ****ing awesome, but they are hardcore as **** and challenging as hell. God of War, on the other hand, is immediately accessible in all areas(if you can get past the M-rated content of course), and its influence is all over the place(just this year: Darksiders, Dante's Inferno, Lords of Shadow all have that GoW vibe).
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/26/2010 9:16:08 AM | message detail
Left 4 Dead may have simply fallen off the map somehow. It makes sense considering its seeding (again, how if TF2 a 4 while L4D is an 11? This match may very well be telling why).

This definitely indicates God of War > Metroid Prime/Okami, and I'd be willing to bet that Prime is closer to Okami in strength than it is to God of War.

Yes, it is likely more L4D sucking than GoW doing well, but you can't discount the PS2 hit's performance here.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/26/2010 9:16:35 AM | message detail
Compare how GoW does against L4D to how HL2 does against L4D2.

Not really. L4D2 is facing probably the worst game it can in terms of SFF. That should be a beatdown, like in the 75-80% range, and it wouldn't tell us much.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/26/2010 9:17:50 AM | message detail
If Half-Life 2 doesn't outdo God of War's % the debate no longer becomes if it can win but instead if it can break 45%.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/26/2010 9:18:16 AM | message detail
*'it' being Half-Life 2
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/26/2010 9:18:21 AM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #452
TF2 needed rallies up the ass to survive Fable. Don't act like it won that match on anything remotely close to its own strength.


Between it being a board-favorite, the bracket-favorite, a Steam-favorite, and a 4chan-favorite in a match that was generally agreed upon to be close, not counting on some rallying was irresponsible. Even still, "remotely close?" It was already very clearly close and Fable had the biggest suspicious spikes.


From: PartOfYourWorld | #454
I'm not worried about Kratos winning more than two matches. L4D is Valve's runt. Like TF2, it's another game made for multiplayer online play (although you can go solo). Half-Life and Portal are much more indicative of "true Valve." Gotta see those first.


Truth. While I expected better from L4D, I don't think it looked that great in BGE2 and it's not like L4D2 or their characters ever looked good here either. HL2's going to steam-roll L4D2, and -- though we'll wonder how much was SFF -- GoW has done little more than prove it was a contender for this division, like everybody should have thought in the first place. ESPECIALLY with the GoW1/2-rerelease and GoW3 hitting shelves this year.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/26/2010 9:18:26 AM | message detail
HL2/GTAIII will arguably be more telling.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/26/2010 9:19:16 AM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #472
i guess I cant judge much as I thought re5 could beat ToS, but the fact that peopel had ToS getting more than 45% on GoW at any point to me is lunacy <<


If we assume the match ends in a doubling and both ToS and L4D are stable, GoW should win with about 53% if my calculations are correct.

This match isn't that big a shocker really. >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/26/2010 9:25:54 AM | message detail
So from one day we go from ToS losing the board vote, to God of War winning it. We have entered the Twilight GameFAQs.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/26/2010 9:26:38 AM | message detail
God of War winning the board vote was strange, because God of War II had a terrible board vote in the Vote-In poll.
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Achromatic | Posted 10/26/2010 9:27:03 AM | message detail

From: Lightning Strikes | #482
If we assume the match ends in a doubling and both ToS and L4D are stable, GoW should win with about 53% if my calculations are correct.

This match isn't that big a shocker really. >_>


Comparing years where votes are halved and the match type changes seems like a poor idea of statistical logic.
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WhiteLens | Posted 10/26/2010 9:31:49 AM | message detail
And the "perfects" of the battle challenge are falling out, now there's less than 50 of them.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/26/2010 9:32:10 AM | message detail
Also, to go back to what yo said about L4D being the runt of Valve, just look at the seeding of the Valve-games in this contest and what they've done:

2 - Half Life 2 (beat FF12 in BGE2)
3 - Portal (beat Bioshock and Halo 3 in BGE2)
4 - Team Fortress 2 (just won its coin-flip match against Fable)
11 - Left 4 Dead (currently getting doubled by GoW)
15 - Left 4 Dead 2 (fourth in its vote-in poll -- between PW:TaT and TimeSplitters 2)

The Orange Box is clearly Valve's biggest influence here. What L4D does can't be so simply compared to what the Orange Box can do...heck, TF2 isn't even a good gauge for what HL2 or Portal can do, and TF2 still did what it needed to do.


GoW's looking good, but give credit to GoW for this instead of detracting from HL2 because of L4D.
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voltch | Posted 10/26/2010 9:33:44 AM | message detail
TOS should still beat god of war.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/26/2010 9:35:24 AM | message detail
Er...in their last contest appearance, not just in this contest.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/26/2010 9:37:52 AM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #485
Comparing years where votes are halved and the match type changes seems like a poor idea of statistical logic.


And yet GoW is doing about as well as it was expected to anyway.

Barring a few very close exceptions votals don't really matter. The format does matter, but has been show here to have minimal impact on either God of War or Left 4 Dead. That's why I brought it up in the first place. This is one of the very few places where 2009 stats actually work because we have a definite similarity already. The only question is if ToS will do better or worse than last year, and given the last match, probably not.

I do make the assumption that ToS is stable, admittedly, but GoW and L4D basically are, with a mere 3% difference.
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Achromatic | Posted 10/26/2010 9:39:29 AM | message detail
Correlation does not equal causation or something like that.

The stats are a few % off, but you call it 'close.' imo you are seeing something you want to be there.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/26/2010 9:44:27 AM | message detail
A 14 seed being the favorite surprises me. Kind of like how Simon was the favorite against Ezio for literally no reason.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/26/2010 9:45:32 AM | message detail

From: Achromatic | #491
Correlation does not equal causation or something like that.

The stats are a few % off, but you call it 'close.' imo you are seeing something you want to be there.


First up, I have no idea what correlation and causation have to do with this.

Second, are you saying a few percent isn't close? I mean, that's kind of a stupid question as what defines "close" is entirely subjective. But, this GoW would get only 53% on last year's GoW, and a little less than that on a stable ToS. What I'm saying here is that GoW isn't actually impressing here and ToS would have to be a lot weaker than it was last time(possible but unlikely) to get killed though it will probably lose.

I'm more concerned about what this means for Mass Effect...
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paulg235 | Posted 10/26/2010 9:53:10 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #492
A 14 seed being the favorite surprises me. Kind of like how Simon was the favorite against Ezio for literally no reason.


The main reason would be the AVGN's retrospective.
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SubDeity | Posted 10/26/2010 9:55:45 AM | message detail
Play Fire Emblem
SubDeity | Posted 10/26/2010 10:00:09 AM | message detail
Simon was the favorite because he's a classic gaming icon. To the average bracket major, there's not a drastic difference between Simon and, say, Mega Man.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/26/2010 10:01:09 AM | message detail

From: SubDeity | #496
To the average bracket major, there's not a drastic difference between Simon and, say, Mega Man.


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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/26/2010 10:02:39 AM | message detail
I only knew of Simon from Captain N before these contests, and he was awesome in that show.
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SubDeity | Posted 10/26/2010 10:05:11 AM | message detail
Play Fire Emblem
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Play Earthbound.
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