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From: ZFS | #148
Man, hope you people have Melee over Brawl with confidence, because there's no way the latter has a shot if importance is the key factor in matches! RE4 should wreck FFX while we're at it!

SSB is a sleeping giant waiting to happen here, folks
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
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http://www.gamerankings.com/ps2/913941-metal-gear-solid-2-sons-of-liberty/index.html
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mgs4 is so screwed

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SMG vs. GTAIV will decide the winner guys
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GotD Bracket: 6/8 Today's Matches: MP & DMC3

Compare MGS2 to 3 on gamerankings.

Fortunately the better game scored higher there.

Oh dear, Albion and his reviews again.

Reviews are a good indicator of how something was received at the time it came out. DMC3 may be a technically better game, just like Halo 3 is a better game than Halo 1, but it lacks the impact on players that the originals for both series had.
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From: NoDicePwn | #154
Fortunately the better game scored higher there.

Oh, MGS3 moved ahead since the last time I checked?

Awesome.
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
"I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!"

HL2? Ain't got nothin' on HL1. Prime got this easy.

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The whole object of travel is not to set foot on foreign land; it is at last to set foot on one's own country as a foreign land.

When I say impact, I'm more referring to on the impact of the people who played it. Even if I play DMC3 now and deem it an objectively better game, I might still not vote for it over DMC. I played DMC back in 2001 and it blew my mind. Unless 3 can do the same in 2010, it'll be tough for me to prefer it. That's why I still prefer Galaxy to Galaxy 2 - because I also try to account my own experiences and feelings when playing the games, not just the games' technical merits.
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So basically you guys are telling me that the first time you play a certain type of game, it doesn't leave more of an impact and sense of fun than playing the same type of game again and again, just with added improvements? I mean just look at Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow. Theres no reason its the strongest outside of being the first and people had never played a game like that before. If we go by pure quality, then Gold/Silver stomps it in every way.
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HL2 > HL1, although L4D1 > L4D2. ON that game, I can totally see the impact and newness of the original beating out the refined/improved sequel.
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That's also why games from GameFAQs' collective childhood tend to be the strongest. I don't know anything about Pokemon Platinum, but shouldn't it be a far superior game to Pokemon Red objectively?
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From: NoDicePwn | #158
So basically you guys are telling me that the first time you play a certain type of game, it doesn't leave more of an impact and sense of fun than playing the same type of game again and again, just with added improvements? I mean just look at Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow. Theres no reason its the strongest outside of being the first and people had never played a game like that before. If we go by pure quality, then Gold/Silver stomps it in every way.

Mario 1/Duck Hunt was the first game I ever played. I'd never vote it over Mario 3 or World.

No denying people have nostalgia goggles when it comes to stuff like this, but yeah. Usually when it comes to series though, the cream still rises to the top eventually.
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From: ZFS | #156
HL2? Ain't got nothin' on HL1. Prime got this easy.

Is this sarcasm?

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There's games that do it right the first time while others it takes a few tries.
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GotD Bracket: 6/8 Today's Matches: MP & DMC3

DMC1 didn't do it right the first time. Just ask me or Ulti, who played the entire series for the first time just two years ago. DMC is a trainwreck of bad camera angles.

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Man, if DMC1 did it "right" the first time, it's a good thing I never played the other games!
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There might half a dozen (or more) 90s games that would handle every single game from this decade. Everyone wears nostalgia goggles all the time.
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DMC is a trainwreck of bad camera angles.

So is Super Mario 64, but nobody denies thats the strongest 3D Mario. You need more complaints then just camera angles if you want to discredit Devil May Cry 1.
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From: NoDicePwn | #167
So is Super Mario 64, but nobody denies thats the strongest 3D Mario.

Mario 64's camera isn't bad at all. Certainly nothing that qualifies as a "train wreck," that's for sure.
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I'm not sure why we keep acting like objectivity is the major factor at play here. It's not as though people think DMC3 is technically a little better, but DMC1 isn't too far back. DMC3 has all the same feelings going for it, all the same love for what it did and what it accomplished, and why it's still considered the best action game out there. People were excited for Bayonetta because it looked exactly liked DMC3. People aren't so excited for DmC because it won't be like DMC3. People liked DMC4 because it was kinda like DMC3, but then it wasn't really. There's probably no game more referenced than DMC3 when it comes time to discuss action games -- and that's far more important than being the "original" game. Zelda 1 was the original game, but it sure isn't in the discussion against Link to the Past, despite the latter using most a very similar template.

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DMC1 didn't do it right the first time. Just ask me or Ulti, who played the entire series for the first time just two years ago. DMC is a trainwreck of bad camera angles.

But were those complaints there when the game was released?

Take GoldenEye 007, play it the first time today and it's almost unplayable.
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GotD Bracket: 6/8 Today's Matches: MP & DMC3

Going back to the start of the topic, I'll sum up my thoughts on Mother 3 as someone who actually beat the thing.

It's a lot more limited in scope than Earthbound. Earthbound had this huge world to explore, while Mother 3 is more on rails. There's chapters, which are pretty short until you get to Chapter 7, where the game really begins. It feels shorter, and it doesn't seem nearly as epic as Earthbound. Once you've got your party of four, you've got Lucas who's pretty much Ness in that he's a ****ing god, but you only get one other PSI character, one who has some neat attacks that inflict status effects, and one character who's essentially useless. Battles don't really seem as strategic as Earthbound, even with the music attack thing addition, which doesn't add too much and isn't really necessary to beat the game.

That said, while its story is not as grand as Earthbound's, it's much more personal, and if you found yourself emotionally affected by Earthbound's story, you are definitely going to love Mother 3's. Mother 3 has perhaps the most touching story I've ever seen, and it really comes together fantastically in the end. The final battle is fantastic, blowing every other final battle, including Earthbound's, right out of the water. Overall, Mother 3 has the better story, I feel.

I still prefer Earthbound, but I strongly recommend Mother 3. It's much different from Earthbound, and you may not like everything about it, but it's a damn fine game with one of the most unique and fantastic stories I've ever seen in a game.

Also, both Paper Mario games rock, and I really need to play through both again after I finish my current playthrough of Mass Effect 2.
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And given how weak DMC as a series is here, the idea of people putting on the nostalgia goggles seems prettty out there. Most people don't care about any game in this series, it's the fans that are voting for it. Then again, it's not as though this makes much difference - neither of these games will be doing much of anything.

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There are no foreign lands. It is the traveler only who is foreign.

There's probably no game more referenced than DMC3 when it comes time to discuss action games

Maybe not on Gamefaqs, but in general gaming public, God of War destroys it when it comes to acclaimed action games.

Zelda 1 was the original game, but it sure isn't in the discussion against Link to the Past, despite the latter using most a very similar template.

Kind of unfair to compare games on different systems when it comes to that, since we're comparing games on the same system.

Mario 64's camera isn't bad at all. Certainly nothing that qualifies as a "train wreck," that's for sure.

It always gave me nothing but a head ache and constantly had me running toward the camera or making jumps based on guesswork.

Take GoldenEye 007, play it the first time today and it's almost unplayable.

Perfect example of nostalgia tinted glasses. I'd take almost any somewhat notable FPS released this gen over Goldeneye in terms of "Enjoyment", since playing a non dual shock console FPS these days is just impossible.
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But were those complaints there when the game was released?

The most important thing is how people feel about the game now. If people judge a game differently today than when it came out, that's the opinion that will stick. In most cases, like Goldeneye, fond memories will win out over how it plays today -- mostly because no one plays it today -- but that doesn't work in every case. DMC1 isn't a game people reminisce about, that's the major difference between it and any other "original."

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From: NoDicePwn | #173
constantly had me running toward the camera or making jumps based on guesswork.

Constantly? The only times I recall making jumps based on guesswork is when you're trying to jump off of poles, and even then that's not that bad. Sunshine's camera is a lot more uncooperative than 64's.
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I have NO idea how I got through 00 Agent on Goldeneye 007 as a kid, because I went back to it a couple years back...man, that was a rough experience!
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I have no idea how you can deride SM64's camera and then not mind DMC1's.

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This is why you don't argue with Albion!

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I have no idea how you can deride SM64's camera and then not mind DMC1's.

The only problem I really remember with DMC1s camera is that it sometimes changed suddenly and the direction you were pushing would continue moving in the wrong way until you let it go. I prefer pre rendered type of cameras compared to something like Mario with is fully 3d, though.
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I do agree Special Edition for DMC3 > DMC1 though. They fixed a good amount of the problems I had with the original game. Original DMC3 though isn't as good as DMC1.
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DMC1's camera angles are atrocious, and there is no arguing this. The only way to S rank every mission on DMD (which I have done) is learning where all the camera transitions are. You don't just lose the S rank otherwise -- you die in seconds, especially against Nightmare.

1 would wreck 3 in a poll, by the way.
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DMC1 is trash.
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From: KamikazePotato | #177
I have no idea how you can deride SM64's camera and then not mind DMC1's.

Have you ever seen one of dr pizza's youtube videos?
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From: The Mana Sword | #182
DMC1 is trash.

It wouldn't be with a better camera. The atmosphere, music and gameplay is top-notch. 3 just isn't hard enough.
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Game with best camera: Uncharted 2
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DS/MM9 in 1 hour oh snap
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Also I can't think of a game where I camera has actually bothered me (incluiding the ones mentioend above)
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3 just isn't hard enough.

Play DMD and come back to me on that.

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The camera was not DMC1's major problem, it went a lot deeper than that.

And if you want a hard game play Ninja Gaiden Black.

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From: SuperAngelo128 | #187
Also I can't think of a game where I camera has actually bothered me (incluiding the ones mentioend above)

Yeah, I usually don't have a problem with cameras in games. They're occasionally problematic, but it's never been anything I've considered to have detracted from the overall experience.
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so what's got the bigger hold in terms of fanbase and stuff, Megaman 9 or Demons' Souls

Match XI: (5) Demon’s Souls vs. (12) Mega Man 9

Information

Name: Demon’s Souls
Year: 2009
Previous Performance: N/A

Name: Mega Man 9
Year: 2008
Previous Performance: N/A

Analysis

The hype for this match has been interesting to watch in the stats topic. Instead of arguing which game is stronger people are left arguing that the opponent is weaker. Despite what the board has Demon’s Souls should be the safe pick since its potential is much higher, but just because it could end up having decent strength doesn’t mean it will.

I’ve been a big supporter that being a Playstation 3 exclusives doesn’t automatically make you weak now that the system is pretty legit on GameFAQs, but the performances of inFamous and Uncharted 2 don’t exactly support that, but you can argue that their opponents were stronger than what the board expected. Should Demon’s Souls flop hard in this match I may change my stance on non-MGS4 PS3 exclusive games.

Some people say that the name factor will be enough for Mega Man 9 to win it, but take a close look at the performances of Mega Man 2 and 3 in the last contest, they exactly didn’t perform that well and it would be shocking if Mega Man 9 was as strong as those games. The name factor does however make Mega Man 9 probably the most popular download only game, but does that really say much?

The only numbers that we have on these games are from the GotY polls which aren’t really reliable. Mega Man 9 easily won the download poll before coming in last in the final poll while Demon’s Souls took second in the PS3 poll, but was totally outclassed by Uncharted 2, but then it almost lost to inFamous in the New Original Title poll. Since then Demon’s Souls has been released in Europe, helpful considering that this is a night match and that Mega Man isn’t that well liked while Mega Man 10 has made its debut.

While this may come back to bite most of the board in the ass I’m siding with Mega Man 9 because I’m not quite convinced that Demon’s Souls has the strength to overcome the apathy votes Mega Man 9 will likely be benefitting from. Of course the match can go the other way plus this being a night vote will not help Mega Man 9 once the dead zone comes alive.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Mega Man 9 > Demon’s Souls

charmander6000’s Prediction: Mega Man 9 wins, 52.26% - 47.74%

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Also I can't think of a game where I camera has actually bothered me (incluiding the ones mentioend above)

The camera in The Force Unleashed bugged the hell out of me. TFU2 is looking to have cleaned it up slightly, but I much prefer a fixed camera like GoW's over the adjustable camera the game works with. When I'm playing a beat-em-up, I'm usually so busy mashing out combos that taking 2 seconds to flip the camera around can ruin my whole battle.

I love it to death, but I'm CONSTANTLY adjusting the camera in NGB. I prefer the static look DMC3 and the GoW trilogy use.
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

this board vote is gonna suck

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Less than ten minutes! So stoked.

Better get my Undertaker GIF ready!

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DEMON'S SOULS/MEGA MAN 9
You guys pumped?!?

Alright Demon's Souls, I'm risking a lot on you. I considered banking this match, but I'm pretty confident in the next several matches after this one. I played the hell out of Mega Man 9, but you're worth it, Demon's Souls. Don't let me down match pic. Don't let me down Europe vote. Don't let me down RPGFAQs.
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If Demon's Souls loses at this point I will be so shocked. Happy for my bracket, but that's pretty much dead at this point. I need this for my battle picks though. After this one there's a succession of easy ones that I can build up steam with.
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This is gonna be a vital match since I'm sure a lot of people are banking on this match, but knowing Mega Man will win easily, I have no intention of banking letting my streak go higher than most.
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Demon's Souls got this. MM9 getting crushed in 3 minutes.
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