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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/24/2010 12:40:17 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #050
Gears of War can be weaksauce all the same, but it ain't losing to Paper freakin' Mario. Come on now.


Of course it is. People like Paper Mario!
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ZFS | Posted 10/24/2010 12:41:01 PM | message detail
No they don't! When has Paper Mario even been in a contest!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/24/2010 12:41:50 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #052
No they don't! When has Paper Mario even been in a contest!


Last time!

You know, when Gears of War got rocked by Shadow of the Colossus and Marcus Fenix lost to Rydia.
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ZFS | Posted 10/24/2010 12:45:01 PM | message detail
Oh, hey, it actually was in the last contest. Shows how much I paid attention to that one!

I don't want to get into an argument about that Gears match, but I'll say having RE4 there didn't do it any favors. Not that it mattered in any significant way, I'm just sayin'. I never even thought about Gears / Paper Mario, I guess we'll see how that goes. Paper Mario, man. Maybe it will win, I guess it is and RPG and Mario.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/24/2010 12:45:43 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #054
Paper Mario, man. Maybe it will win, I guess it is and RPG and Mario.


This thinking has paid off before!
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redrocket | Posted 10/24/2010 12:45:51 PM | message detail
Paper Mario is a RPG starring freaking Mario.

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Bigwig_rah | Posted 10/24/2010 12:45:59 PM | message detail
It's kinda funny that the only place Mother 3 is getting destroyed is in Asia, where it actually came out.
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ZFS | Posted 10/24/2010 12:46:11 PM | message detail
gross

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/24/2010 12:46:15 PM | message detail
Paper Mario or Paper Mario TTYD?
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ZFS | Posted 10/24/2010 12:48:00 PM | message detail
Eh, it's not unusual. Japan is where Mother 3 came out, not the greater part of Asia -- and Japan is probably one of the smallest contributors to the overall Asian vote total. Most other parts of Asia are heavily PC oriented first and foremost.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/24/2010 12:59:07 PM | message detail
Even if it was Japan, um, Devil May Cry 3 is a Japanese game too. If uh, people have forgotten
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/24/2010 1:04:19 PM | message detail

From: Big Bob | #037
Well, to clarify,

-No random encounters
-Battle system that's more than just "mash Attack repeatedly"
-Magic and skills that are actually useful
-Storyline is both hilarious and touching
-Awesome soundtrack
-****ty inventory system that gives you more stuff than you could reasonably be expected to carry


This sounds a lot like Persona 3/4.

Oh wait...
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 10/24/2010 1:04:37 PM | message detail
Paper Mario or Paper Mario TTYD?

Both got in. The original is facing Katamari Damacy and the sequel gets Gears of War.

I have both Paper Marios going to Round 3 based completely on my undying love for them.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/24/2010 1:10:55 PM | message detail
-No random encounters
-Battle system that's more than just "mash Attack repeatedly"
-Magic and skills that are actually useful
-Storyline is both hilarious and touching
-Awesome soundtrack
-****ty inventory system that gives you more stuff than you could reasonably be expected to carry

All comes together to create Mother 3.


That's sounds about right. Mother 3 is decently challenging but you won't need grind for exp very much if at all. The fan translation was done by Tomato who is a professional translator so it's a high quality job. The game is a bit short, though.
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kinsho3 | Posted 10/24/2010 1:13:54 PM | message detail
A question that you guys probably know the answer to:

What's going on with the guru right now? I notice it's being updated every now and then with new brackets and new matches, but some things still need to be changed/added...
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/24/2010 1:17:04 PM | message detail

From: kinsho3 | #065
A question that you guys probably know the answer to:

What's going on with the guru right now? I notice it's being updated every now and then with new brackets and new matches, but some things still need to be changed/added...


blame Wiggumfan267 and nintendogirl1 for not putting in Pages 1 and 5, since all the mistakes that need to be edited will be done once they finish all their brackets
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kinsho3 | Posted 10/24/2010 1:24:42 PM | message detail

From: SuperAngelo128 | #046
blame Wiggumfan267 and nintendogirl1 for not putting in Pages 1 and 5, since all the mistakes that need to be edited will be done once they finish all their brackets


All right, hopefully they finish up soon. I would seriously love to see match breakdowns.

Thanks for the prompt reply.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/24/2010 1:26:19 PM | message detail
I'm STILL not up on the Guru yet, this is seriously irritating now >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/24/2010 1:27:57 PM | message detail
Mother 3 is just really, really good game. I'm possibly the biggest DMC3 fan on the board outside of Lopen and I still voted for Mother 3.

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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 10/24/2010 1:31:47 PM | message detail
Mother 3 was a really good game. I wouldn't list it anywhere near my top games of all time, but I definitely enjoyed it.

Of course, I'm biased by my interpretation of the ending and naming of the characters >_>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/24/2010 2:01:32 PM | message detail
Some people may be eliminated from the Guru and not even realize it yet!
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/24/2010 2:03:02 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #071
Some people may be eliminated from the Guru and not even realize it yet!


well apparently we wont find out how much it takes to get elmiinated till Lieutenant Kettch posts
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/24/2010 2:21:10 PM | message detail
Really doubt we'll get that many eliminations in round 1. Taking Brawl/Melee/FFX splits the gurus into three major groups add in major picks (GSC's performance, KH/KH2, North and Northeast picks), you're going to get a lot of different brackets.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/24/2010 2:22:07 PM | message detail
Actually make that 4 major groups; Brawl, Melee, FFX > Brawl, FFX > Melee
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/24/2010 2:25:42 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #020
Bigger than Mario or Sonic? No, especially not in Halo's case.


Agreed. Demon's Souls has no brand-name though, which we hadn't seen in SA2/SF4 or SMS/Halo 3. I don't know if that matters or not after those two other matches, but it's worth its own mention.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/24/2010 2:29:37 PM | message detail
I probably should give Mother 3 a chance at some point again. First time I got like an hour in and got bored and never touched it again.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 10/24/2010 2:33:03 PM | message detail

From: SuperAngelo128 | #072
well apparently we wont find out how much it takes to get elmiinated till Lieutenant Kettch posts


I think I saw Rock around, who might have his elimination script still.

If not, I can pick it up when we're like half-way through the first round maybe. Before that it's too much work with 127 matches and some ung-dly number of brackets.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/24/2010 3:02:58 PM | message detail
Wow

What the hell happened here
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/24/2010 3:04:35 PM | message detail

From: Lieutenant Kettch | #077
Rock


RockMPR or whatever?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/24/2010 3:32:23 PM | message detail
So it looks like Mother 3 is slightly weaker than I thought it was. I had DMC3 pushing 74%, but I knew I should have went lower!

This doesn't prove anything other than how weak action games (DMC/Ninja Gaiden/God of War) are on this site.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/24/2010 3:38:03 PM | message detail
Seriously, of all the people to complain, why are Mother 3 fans complaining? You can't even play the game without downloading a ROM and the patch, the game was released in Japan only, and Lucas isn't even in the match picture. At least with Deus Ex fans the game is bigger on other parts of the internet, but you can't be a fan of Mother 3 without being aware of its obscurity.
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medicority | Posted 10/24/2010 3:45:06 PM | message detail
if Megaman bombs again because of europe I'm gonna be upset

effing europe and its megaman hate
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 10/24/2010 3:50:25 PM | message detail
Man I don't understand why here in Europe we don't like Megaman.Personally I don't know a single person that has ever played a Megaman game too.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/24/2010 4:01:13 PM | message detail
I think it's more because Mega Man games weren't well distributed in Europe. Also it's the UK that seems to not care about them.

If it's any consolation MM9 performed better than usual in the Europe GotY poll
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/24/2010 5:51:29 PM | message detail
So...

Star Ocean vs. Mother 3: Who you got?

Assuming the two games are equal, Prime would get 62.09% on DMC3 next round.
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croy3 | Posted 10/24/2010 5:58:10 PM | message detail
DMC3 is still near doubling. And Mother 3 isnt a pushover by any means, old school gamers know it and with super smash the game should get a large chunk of votes against almost any opponent.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/24/2010 5:59:21 PM | message detail
Star Ocean 3, then. Halo just outdid that percentage on Ninja Gaiden. I expect Prime to beat Halo in this contest, and I have no idea if DMC3 could beat Ninja Gaiden. I expect DMC3 to be at least a notch weaker than the original DMC.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/24/2010 5:59:34 PM | message detail
I'd go with Mother 3. I think it would be close but Mother fans would actually bother with rallying.
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ZFS | Posted 10/24/2010 6:00:06 PM | message detail
Prime would get 62.09% on DMC3 next round.

This probably won't be too far off from the actual percentage.

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ZFS | Posted 10/24/2010 6:00:47 PM | message detail
I expect DMC3 to be at least a notch weaker than the original DMC.

I also very much doubt this.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/24/2010 6:01:46 PM | message detail
I'd take DMC3 > Ninja Gaiden. I think Ninja Gaiden is definitely the weakest of these action series.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/24/2010 6:02:57 PM | message detail
This board has a few hardcore fans who prefer 3. It's not indicative of the entire gaming population, of which way more have played 1 than 3. I haven't played 3, but Dante also seems a lot cooler in the original. His DMC3 voice is so geeky. This matters with action games.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/24/2010 6:03:30 PM | message detail
I can't believe Mother 3 was so much stronger in the U.S than in Asia..
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/24/2010 6:03:49 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #092
I haven't played 3, but Dante also seems a lot cooler in the original. His DMC3 voice is so geeky. This matters with action games.


DMC3 is the reason Dante is a near elite. Pre-DMC3 Dante was getting doubled by Crono and Sonic.
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ZFS | Posted 10/24/2010 6:04:38 PM | message detail
I think you're entirely off base here. Most people prefer DMC3 over DMC1 by a wide margin -- there are few people who have played the games that would rank DMC1 ahead of the others. DMC1 sold more, but we're talking about million sellers in both instances, and DMC4 outsold them both. That's not a particularly good argument, nor is being 'original,' because there are few instances where the original is actually the strongest game in a series.

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ZFS | Posted 10/24/2010 6:06:07 PM | message detail
Also, what Leon said. Almost no one likes Dante because of DMC1; he didn't start getting real love until DMC3, and then that continued in DMC4. That's the Dante people talk about.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/24/2010 6:07:27 PM | message detail
I'm just saying, don't be surprised when Prime has a doubling+ next round, because that's what I'm expecting. This is an absolutely, positively, unarguably egg of all eggs laid by DMC3. There is no spinning this, Mother joke appeal or not. I'm not even sure if RB2 flubbed worse relative to Oracle expectations than this game did. And I expect Prime to be stronger than Halo. Not a good combination for Round 2
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/24/2010 6:07:28 PM | message detail
DMC4 sold more, but that was because it was multi-platform >_>

DMC3 is most loved game in the series, with DMC2 as the most hated(a role DmC will soon replace).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/24/2010 6:09:14 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #097
I'm just saying, don't be surprised when Prime has a doubling+ next round, because that's what I'm expecting.


Man, DMC3 would still beat Star Ocean pretty easily, I think.

Although you still think Prime is in "rebound" mode.
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ZFS | Posted 10/24/2010 6:09:14 PM | message detail
I'm not sure where we're arguing against DMC3 losing big time to Prime, because that will absolutely happen, but DMC1 would in all likelihood fare that much worse. There's really nothing pointing to DMC1 being the stronger game -- no polls, not the fanbase, not critical acclaim, nothin'.

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