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Hochimihnister | Posted 10/22/2010 7:21:56 PM | message detail
Good thing I banked my contest funds today. Soon we will see Halo 3 plaster Super Mario Sunshine. I'm looking forward to that match because a lot of people regrettably took Super Mario Sunshine to go far.
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lightsout06 | Posted 10/22/2010 7:24:02 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #249
Dude, were you paying attention to the last contest at all? The real contest finals will be Brawl/Melee


What about last contest? All i saw was FFX lose to OoT and FFVII. Those two aren't in this contest so what game is going to stop it?
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Solid_Mike86 | Posted 10/22/2010 7:34:45 PM | message detail
The only thing i will be happy about if Halo 3 wins against SMS is if it does really good and gives me hope of Halo 2 upsetting KH's 2.

Lol yea i know, not happening.
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/22/2010 7:35:10 PM | message detail
What about last contest? All i saw was FFX lose to OoT and FFVII. Those two aren't in this contest so what game is going to stop it?

Brawl and Melee both put up fantastic numbers against FFX while being simultaneously SFFed by two games. That's what he's talking about.
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/22/2010 7:35:19 PM | message detail

From: Solid_Mike86 | #253
The only thing i will be happy about if Halo 3 wins against SMS is if it does really good and gives me hope of Halo 2 upsetting KH's 2.


Man, Halo 3 could break 75% against Sunshine and Halo 2 still wouldn't beat KH2!
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Hochimihnister | Posted 10/22/2010 7:37:44 PM | message detail
Brawl and Melee both put up fantastic numbers against FFX while being simultaneously SFFed by two games.

FFX put up a fantastic number against SSBM while being LFFed by Kingdom Hearts and Diablo II
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/22/2010 7:37:59 PM | message detail

From: lightsout06 | #252
Dallas Cowboys to the Superbowl


I lol'd
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/22/2010 7:38:51 PM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #256
FFX put up a fantastic number against SSBM while being LFFed by Kingdom Hearts and Diablo II


Hence the dilemma of the Finals
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/22/2010 7:40:00 PM | message detail
A SFFed FFX lost to a SFFed LttP!

It's irrelevant to the conversation, but it never fails to make me smile.
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lightsout06 | Posted 10/22/2010 7:40:16 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #257
I lol'd


Yeah my boys' aren't looking too good right now
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/22/2010 7:41:02 PM | message detail

From: Not_Wylvane | #259
A SFFed FFX lost to a SFFed LttP!

It's irrelevant to the conversation, but it never fails to make me smile.


Yes, but LttP would probably be a favorite to win this contest if it were in it, and FFX didn't lose to it by much!

And the fact that FFVII/OoT didn't change much at all when those two were removed seems to indicate that it was an accurate result!

I may or may not be speaking facetiously!
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/22/2010 7:42:19 PM | message detail
SA2 doing poorly makes me think Sunshine might not do as swimmingly as people think.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/22/2010 7:42:52 PM | message detail
What's this crap about cult things do better? I really doubt votals stay this low the whole contest. Are people forgetting what division we're in?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/22/2010 7:43:05 PM | message detail
I'm just glad we're getting Halo 3/Sunshine out of the way early. I couldn't imagine having to wait most of round 1 for this.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/22/2010 7:43:25 PM | message detail
May I see the next match pics?
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/22/2010 7:46:45 PM | message detail
I'm conflicted about Mother 3/DMC 3.

On one hand, I want to vote Mother 3 because I genuinely enjoyed playing it. I never played DMC3, and while I thought Earthbound was the best of the trilogy, Mother 3 has its moments, including one of the best and unique final boss fights of any game.

On the other hand, this will likely be Blowout of the Contest, and I'm all for creating a bigger blowout if at all possible.

I think I'll wait to see the poll in action. If Mother 3 somehow breaks 10%, then I'll vote for it. If this becomes another LoZ/Adventure affair, welp, sorry Mother 3!
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/22/2010 7:48:20 PM | message detail
1. OOT 50%
2. FFVII 47.5%
3. RBY 37%
4. LTTP 36%
4. SM64 36%
6. CT 33.5%
7. MGS 33%
7. SSBM 33%
7. SSBB 33%
10. SMW 32.5%
10. SMB3 32.5%
10. FFX 32.5%
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/22/2010 7:52:10 PM | message detail
Seeing SA2 lose here reminds me of something I've kinda thought about for awhile: how much of a fanbase does Sonic really have left here? I mean, the character's clearly strong (though not like it used to be), but the games aren't much at all here. He's a legend for his Genesis-days, yet not only are none of his Genesis-games strong, but the strongest one here is Sonic 1...which rubs me completely wrong and makes me think there haven't been that many people who played the Sonic-classics anymore. Sonic 2 was the Genesis pack-in that really put Sega on the map while Sonic 3 and S&K were also big hits that were very well received...yet the mediocre original that came before the Genesis was huge -- heck, before the trademark spin-dash was implemented -- is top dog? I don't think I ever heard anybody seriously talk about Sonic 1 as the best Sonic-game. It's not like Sonic 1 out-nominated Sonic 2 in 2004, either, and I don't know if there were any other examples of a stronger game from a series being snubbed for a weaker game (within their eras, anyway).

Today's a good example that Sonic's games since the Dreamcast have not been cared for, and surely we can go a little further back to get the Saturn in this too. Sonic's not had a game GameFAQs cares about since S&K then, which recently turned sixteen years old. Genesis isn't that strong here, anyway. Given how nothing else from 1994 that wasn't Nintendo or Square back in BGE2 held up well, I don't see Sonic being an exception to the old age...

...I kinda feel people's arguments for FF being indirectly stronger than FF2/4 now, but at least people still care about FF.


I know we've known Sonic's running off his reputation now for awhile, but I guess I'm just starting to realize how bad it may be...and if it's as bad as I suspect, then Sonic better get his 3D ass in gear because this is three generations of him either not being meaningful at all, being looked down upon for not keeping up in 3D, or just being flat-out bad. He's been becoming part of the Nintendo-family for two of those generations, which -- while I've never liked how you guys often talk about Nintendo-SFF affecting his older games -- Sonic will let this eventually creep up on him too much as a character. He's already lost to Kirby once fair and square (no matter if he avenged himself one-on-one or not -- Kirby still broke 45% there), and he's not getting any stronger.

What's the word on Sonic 4 -- how's it been received? This feels like the only thing people could get behind to keep Sonic alive lately.
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/22/2010 7:52:56 PM | message detail
FFX put up a fantastic number against SSBM while being LFFed by Kingdom Hearts and Diablo II

I would argue that KH and Diablo don't overlap with FFX all that much. KH may sap FFX a bit (being made by the same developer), but ultimately you're talking about an ARPG versus a turn-based RPG. And all Diablo has in common is that it's an RPG, but being on the PC and being pretty much a huge dungeon crawl, I don't think they would really overlap all that much.
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/22/2010 7:53:00 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #268
What's the word on Sonic 4 -- how's it been received? This feels like the only thing people could get behind to keep Sonic alive lately.


The reviews seem to be mostly positive, from what I've heard. It's still downloadable only, and that hasn't seemed to help Mega Man much.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/22/2010 7:58:38 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #267
1. OOT 50%
2. FFVII 47.5%
3. RBY 37%
4. LTTP 36%
4. SM64 36%
6. CT 33.5%
7. MGS 33%
7. SSBM 33%
7. SSBB 33%
10. SMW 32.5%
10. SMB3 32.5%
10. FFX 32.5%


What are these numbers based on, exactly? Or are they just your personal estimations?
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/22/2010 7:59:42 PM | message detail
I would argue that KH and Diablo don't overlap with FFX all that much. KH may sap FFX a bit (being made by the same developer), but ultimately you're talking about an ARPG versus a turn-based RPG. And all Diablo has in common is that it's an RPG, but being on the PC and being pretty much a huge dungeon crawl, I don't think they would really overlap all that much.

While I agree with Diablo II, based between rounds 1 and 2 against MGS2 removing KH would have put FFX about equal with Melee.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/22/2010 8:00:04 PM | message detail
Personal estimates.
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pjbasis | Posted 10/22/2010 8:01:20 PM | message detail
I had SA2 beat Uncharted.

GUESS NOT LOL


dammit
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/22/2010 8:01:42 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #273
Personal estimates.


I thought so, because they didn't line up with my stats, so I was kinda confused.
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transients | Posted 10/22/2010 8:05:48 PM | message detail
there's no sense in using stats if they're not, well, stats

might as well just rank 'em
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/22/2010 8:06:04 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #270
The reviews seem to be mostly positive, from what I've heard. It's still downloadable only, and that hasn't seemed to help Mega Man much.


True, but I think downloadable games are becoming bigger too and are a bigger part of the gaming culture than they were two years ago. Dunno if that'll pay off for Sonic or Sonic 4, but I think the potential for downloadable games to affect characters are bigger now.


From: charmander6000 | #272
While I agree with Diablo II, based between rounds 1 and 2 against MGS2 removing KH would have put FFX about equal with Melee.


Yep, FFX is 49+% on SSBM judging from MGS2 (forget the exact number). That said, even if Diablo 2 is an action-RPG mainly on PC, it's still three RPGs that require a lot of gamer-time to play against a short-session Nintendo fighter. Diablo 2 probably doesn't matter much, but it's worth a mention when discussing that match.
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/22/2010 8:07:31 PM | message detail
While I agree with Diablo II, based between rounds 1 and 2 against MGS2 removing KH would have put FFX about equal with Melee.

I didn't say it wouldn't be close. FFX and SSB are about as far apart fanbase-wise as you can be. Nintendo vs Sony, fighting/party game vs RPG. So there's no SFF to worry about. And it's been shown that both games have extremely high showings.

I just happen to think the numbers favor SSB, especially since it'll get extra votes from the Pokemon and Zelda fanbases.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/22/2010 8:09:39 PM | message detail
I love SF4 (son), but this match feels like "Do you or do you not like 3D Sonic?"
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/22/2010 8:11:24 PM | message detail
Match VII: (7) Halo 3 vs. (10) Super Mario Sunshine

Information

Name: Halo 3
Year: 2007
Previous Performance: SpC2k9 – 4th in Round 2

Name: Super Mario Sunshine
Year: 2002
Previous Performance: N/A

Analysis

There’s no question that this match has been getting a lot of hype. We have a game from one of the most hated series going up against the black sheep of “it’s freaking Mario.” While a lot of people want this to at least be a close match I see this being a comfortable win for one game.

A lot of Super Mario Sunshine supporters are using “it’s freaking Mario” as their argument for why the game will win, but if it’s freaking Mario worked then Super Mario Galaxy wouldn’t have lost to Call of Duty 4. Sure we can move into the context that this is a Halo game, but Super Mario Sunshine isn’t exactly the most loved Mario game either.

Going back to Super Mario Galaxy the game’s performance was so bad that it would probably struggle to defeat Halo 3 and as many people know Galaxy is on a much higher tier than Sunshine among Mario fans. The only way you could argue that Sunshine is close to Galaxy is if Galaxy suffers from Wii hate, but four-ways dilutes anti-votes. I think people no longer care much about new Mario, mostly because of the way Sunshine was handled.

This is one of those matches where almost all the evidence points to one entrant yet the other gets decent support because to the board it just feels right. Unlike other matches the board’s gut feeling is more fear than anything else. The board has been burned by Halo and GTA too many times and you can see the caution in their bracket predictions. Eventually they get an opponent weak enough that they get burned for picking against it. I feel this match will be the one doing that even though this will be a night match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Halo 3 > Super Mario Sunshine

charmander6000’s Prediction: Halo 3 wins, 56.27% - 43.73%

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XIII_rocks | Posted 10/22/2010 8:12:40 PM | message detail
Man, dammit SA2

So lame =(
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/22/2010 8:13:45 PM | message detail
I love SF4 (son), but this match feels like "Do you or do you not like 3D Sonic?"

More like Shadow vs. Not Shadow
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/22/2010 8:33:23 PM | message detail
half hour before the showdown of the bracket starts
Hochimihnister | Posted 10/22/2010 8:50:35 PM | message detail
And all Diablo has in common is that it's an RPG, but being on the PC and being pretty much a huge dungeon crawl, I don't think they would really overlap all that much.

There is no such thing as an even 50/50 split. A game will hurt one game more than it will hurt another even if it's only marginal. Diablo was a summon in Final Fantasy VIII, therefore there is plenty of reason to believe it would overlap with FFX
ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/22/2010 8:52:42 PM | message detail
Just got back in time to see Sonic lose. Woo.

I went to New York to some game conference and the KINECT was there. I got to play Dance Central! Dance Central for Game of the Decade 2.

They didn't have Kinectimals :(
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SnoicFactor | Posted 10/22/2010 8:56:21 PM | message detail
ib4 sunshine ownage
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Nomchan | Posted 10/22/2010 8:57:50 PM | message detail
Sayonara, 600 points.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/22/2010 8:57:52 PM | message detail
The Halos are goin' down!

(Hopefully not.)
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/22/2010 8:57:54 PM | message detail
THE SECONDS FEEL LIKE HOURS
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/22/2010 8:58:05 PM | message detail
SMS being close to SMG makes me a sad panda.

Halo 3 better destroy it.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/22/2010 8:59:02 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lceOdKYFzrw

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Greyfeld | Posted 10/22/2010 8:59:52 PM | message detail
There is no such thing as an even 50/50 split. A game will hurt one game more than it will hurt another even if it's only marginal. Diablo was a summon in Final Fantasy VIII, therefore there is plenty of reason to believe it would overlap with FFX

I'm sorry, but that's an incredibly stupid reason to believe there's an overlap. Any time two games go up against each other, and a voter likes both but can only choose one, you're looking at votes being detracted. But your reasoning is completely absurd.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/22/2010 9:00:12 PM | message detail
Halo 3 38.46%

5
Super Mario Sunshine 61.54%

8
TOTAL VOTES 13
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/22/2010 9:00:16 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Halo 3 38.89%

7
Super Mario Sunshine 61.11%

11
TOTAL VOTES 18

Let's do this.
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paulg235 | Posted 10/22/2010 9:00:18 PM | message detail
Halo 3 34.15%

14
Super Mario Sunshine 65.85%

27
TOTAL VOTES 41
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/22/2010 9:00:21 PM | message detail
Halo 3 40.91%

9
Super Mario Sunshine 59.09%

13
TOTAL VOTES 22

MOLTAAAAAAAR
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/22/2010 9:00:23 PM | message detail
really b8, really
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/22/2010 9:00:27 PM | message detail
Halo 3 36.84% 14
Super Mario Sunshine 63.16% 24
TOTAL VOTES 38

SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/22/2010 9:00:41 PM | message detail
Halo 3 42.86% 54
Super Mario Sunshine 57.14% 72
TOTAL VOTES 126

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/22/2010 9:00:46 PM | message detail
Halo has this, doesn't it
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