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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/21/2010 10:57:04 PM | message detail

What about those games puts them out of UC2's reach?


I've never seen anything on this site to suggest UC2 would be in their reach. The only thing really suggesting it would be strong at all is the GOTY poll which I don't trust at all. There's simply too many foreboding signs with Drake sucking and PS3 games in general for me to take it over any of those 3.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/21/2010 10:58:22 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #350
I agree with this site isn't particularly fond of fighters, but if there's one that could be added to the exclusive list, SFIV would be the one.


I really disagree with this.

Fighters are a thing of the past to most of this site.

Don't get me wrong. I'm rooting for SFIV to win despite picking SA2, but I just don't think this site cares.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/21/2010 10:59:25 PM | message detail
The Legend of Dragoon nearly cut Uncharted 2 on the previous update.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/21/2010 11:00:23 PM | message detail
Yeah, UC2's gains are really small right now.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/21/2010 11:01:51 PM | message detail
Only 55.39% for UC2 that hour.
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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2010 11:02:52 PM | message detail
I'm not necessarily going to say this site does care, but I think if it could care about another fighter then Street Fighter IV is the best bet. SFIV is the reason we're seeing a bunch of upcoming fighting games -- its seen tremendous success, both from a sales perspective and how much its revived the Street Fighter brand as a whole. I won't make any definitive statements about this site liking it, but I think there's a real good chance of it happening. I think a 1v1 format is much more suited for something like SF, and the game is much bigger now than it was back in May 09. That may sound strange, given how far off we are from the original release, but I think time has been very good to the game.


and hey if i'm wrong i'll sulk back to the shadows and let the contest run its course but someone must take up the fight for the sole street fighter game

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/21/2010 11:03:56 PM | message detail
Isn't LoD exactly the kind of nerdy game that would benefit from the night, while Uncharted is the big casual game that would benefit more from the day vote?

I did trend charts for the Vote-In polls and LoD had a good night vote, but the SNV was its best time period. As for Uncharted's trends, here's the trend chart for the GotY poll:

Time | MW2 | Dragon Age | Uncharted 2
EBV | 35.02% | 30.07% | 34.91%
PHV | 36.11% | 29.34% | 34.55%
FNV | 34.71% | 32.03% | 33.26%
BSV | 35.81% | 32.10% | 32.09%
DSV | 36.24% | 31.75% | 32.00%
ASV | 42.52% | 28.37% | 29.11%
SNV | 42.21% | 29.05% | 28.74%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/21/2010 11:03:56 PM | message detail
Well, if SFIV wins, I don't think it's going to be because it's gotten really strong because of format or elapsed time. It's just going to be because of LOL 3-D Sonic.

Which is why this match worries me.
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/21/2010 11:04:40 PM | message detail
I'm pretty happy with this round, tbh. UC2 has a sizeable enough lead that it's clear it's going to win this round, but it's small enough to make it clear that its strength won't do anything significant in round 2.
ZFS | Posted 10/21/2010 11:07:06 PM | message detail
I think that's exactly what people will say if it happens, but I've believed SFIV was getting the short end of the stick this contest since the bracket came out. That Persona match won't disappear until people have a reason to think otherwise. 3D Sonic is easy to fall back on, so it might take until round 2 for it to happen, but brace yourself !

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2010 11:07:16 PM | message detail
I can't wait to see SA2 in action. I just can't believe at the faith people are putting into it to have success here. Its match with SF4 is rightfully debatable...but Uncharted 2 and further? I dunno, I just don't get it; I'd consider it doing damn well to match LoD's performance here.

Speaking of which, I expected better from LoD, but this isn't terrible for it by any means. It's gained ~9% since the board vote and Uncharted 2 should be respectable enough. It's still looking to contend and maybe even be the favorite to reach the division championship, though I think Halo in a day-match is going to be tough to beat.
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Lopen | Posted 10/21/2010 11:07:20 PM | message detail
Pretty sure all indications right now are that Soul Calibur 4 would beat Street Fighter 4 in a battle of the 4s on this site, sadly.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/21/2010 11:07:43 PM | message detail
One thing that worries me is that Sonic Adventure 2 was only on Dreamcast and Gamecube, while SFIV has big time 360/PS3 exposure. I think it's a toss-up, but I definitely feel like the winner of that match has a great shot at beating Uncharted 2 next round, and that feeling's being really enforced here.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/21/2010 11:08:08 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #361
I can't wait to see SA2 in action. I just can't believe at the faith people are putting into it to have success here.


I think it's more a lack of faith in SFIV. I'd pick a lot of things to pick SA2. SFIV just isn't one of them.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/21/2010 11:09:01 PM | message detail
I'm getting cold feet about SA2/SFIV too. The site's just shown it's ability to shun a popular game it dislikes in favour of something it doesn't care that much about in RB2/Deus Ex. Hopefully 3D Sonic will just be less disliked than rhythm games.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/21/2010 11:09:29 PM | message detail
Huh, Dragoon is now doing better in NA than it is worldwide. It looks like Uncharted is definitely a Euro-powered game, which is what I was kind of expecting for some reason. I would have obviously preferred for Sonic to meet it in the day, but eh, I think it will do alright either way.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/21/2010 11:11:56 PM | message detail
UC2's second percentage gain of the match, good grief.
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Lopen | Posted 10/21/2010 11:12:12 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #364
I think it's more a lack of faith in SFIV. I'd pick a lot of things to pick SA2. SFIV just isn't one of them.


This

Hell I'd pick Legend of Dragoon over it.

I'll be rooting for SFIV the whole way but I just can't feel good about a game that 60-70% of the site said they have no interest in playing, and got doubled by GTAIV.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/21/2010 11:14:31 PM | message detail
lmfao lopen you wouldn't really take Legend of Dragoon over SFIV would you?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/21/2010 11:15:17 PM | message detail
Man, I don't understand this thinking of "LOL SFIV couldn't lose to some no-name RPG."
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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2010 11:18:02 PM | message detail
I can understand someone doing that, I can understand someone being skeptical of SFIV. I don't agree that the Persona match is in any way indicative of the strength we'll see SFIV at this contest, but it's the only contest match the game has been in. It's hard to make a convincing argument against that until someone sees otherwise.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/21/2010 11:18:56 PM | message detail
By the way,

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4048

If Uncharted 2 ends with 57% on Legend of Dragoon, then it gets on 65.54% Ninja Gaiden. Good comparisan for when Halo 1 rolls around.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/21/2010 11:20:21 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #371
I can understand someone doing that, I can understand someone being skeptical of SFIV. I don't agree that the Persona match is in any way indicative of the strength we'll see SFIV at this contest, but it's the only contest match the game has been in. It's hard to make a convincing argument against that until someone sees otherwise.


I might give it a free pass if it did well in other polls, but...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4047

Look at Left 4 Dead 2.

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Greyfeld | Posted 10/21/2010 11:24:06 PM | message detail
I'm getting cold feet about SA2/SFIV too. The site's just shown it's ability to shun a popular game it dislikes in favour of something it doesn't care that much about in RB2/Deus Ex. Hopefully 3D Sonic will just be less disliked than rhythm games.

Well first off, nobody hates sonic. I can't think of a single time I've ever heard anybody talk about sonic getting anti-voted.

Secondly, SA2, despite being a last-gen game, is supposed to be one of the best 3D sonic games made to date.

As it is, Sonic is a solid high-midcarder in character battles, so unless we get some significant SF4 rallying tomorrow (which wouldn't be anything close to the ridiculous Valve rallying we saw today), I think SA2 has a pretty huge edge.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722

Street Fighter IV scored lower than RE5, Prototype, Borderlands, and even L4D2 in this poll from early this year. Those stats are pretty horrendous to put up against Sonic in the first round.
HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2010 11:26:03 PM | message detail
I still suspect SSF4 will help it out for this contest, which came after its 2009-GotY poll. It won't do wonders, but it has felt like the SF4-name has grown decently since then.
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Lopen | Posted 10/21/2010 11:26:23 PM | message detail
UC2 > LoD > SA2 > SF4 is how I see the final strength barometer of this four pack going, yes.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/21/2010 11:27:24 PM | message detail
*wakes up, checks TF2/Fable results*

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

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gamerkid17 | Posted 10/21/2010 11:27:27 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #367
UC2's second percentage gain of the match, good grief.


it's not unlikely that a considerable amount of votes for uncharted 2 are people who hated LoD or Square-fan votes.
LoD could get a bit closer if the "real" uc2 voters fade
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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2010 11:28:08 PM | message detail
The fact that SFIV made it in easy, while L4D2 had to sneak in through a weak vote-in poll should tell you all you need to know about that -- unless you think L4D2/SFIV is a debatable match, in which case I won't argue with other polls, but I'll say that I could not possibly disagree more with the idea. I don't have a real solid foundation to stand on here in terms of 'evidence,' or other polls I can point to that loosely maybe sorta points to maybe a hint of something, but I do think that SFIV has become a bigger game, through a variety of different channels, with the wider gaming audience than two months after its original release. There's nothing to prove that, but we'll see tomorrow. Do want to say there's more reasoning than bias for my pick!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/21/2010 11:28:23 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #375
I still suspect SSF4 will help it out for this contest, which came after its 2009-GotY poll. It won't do wonders, but it has felt like the SF4-name has grown decently since then.


Eh, I doubt there are very many people (sans Ulti) who picked up SSFIV who didn't already like SFIV.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/21/2010 11:30:10 PM | message detail
SSFIV will help some, but yeah, most of the people buying it will already be fans.

The thing is, even if SA2 loses tomorrow, I think it'll be because of its own weakness, not SFIV being good or anything. SFIV just has too many bad results across a decent number of polls.

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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2010 11:30:29 PM | message detail
I don't think it's necessarily about someone not liking SFIV and then loving SSFIV. I wouldn't think anyone would go through that transition, because they are the same game at their core, only with more refinements and tweaks in the latter. I would agree that SSFIV increased awareness about the game, increased the interest in it, and made it bigger than it was before.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/21/2010 11:31:10 PM | message detail
And Uncharted 2 is basically stalling until it can get into the Europe voting block and start going up in % again.

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/21/2010 11:31:16 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #380
The fact that SFIV made it in easy, while L4D2 had to sneak in through a weak vote-in poll should tell you all you need to know about that -- unless you think L4D2/SFIV is a debatable match, in which case I won't argue with other polls, but I'll say that I could not possibly disagree more with the idea. I don't have a real solid foundation to stand on here in terms of 'evidence,' or other polls I can point to that loosely maybe sorta points to maybe a hint of something, but I do think that SFIV has become a bigger game, through a variety of different channels, with the wider gaming audience than two months after its original release. There's nothing to prove that, but we'll see tomorrow. Do want to say there's more reasoning than bias for my pick!


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Ultimaphazon | Posted 10/21/2010 11:31:17 PM | message detail
Well first off, nobody hates sonic

I do.
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/21/2010 11:36:01 PM | message detail
Well first off, nobody hates sonic

I do.


Excuse me, let me rephrase.

Well first off, nobody that matters hates sonic.
HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2010 11:37:22 PM | message detail
Does Sonic in SSBB count?
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pjbasis | Posted 10/22/2010 1:02:22 AM | message detail
The entire Sonic fanbase is gonna be behind SA2.

I don't think I'm alone in thinking it was the last great Sonic game (and the greatest 3d one)
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/22/2010 1:07:07 AM | message detail
Just want to make sure it's archived:


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a decade is ten years, so 1/1/2000 to 1/1/2011 is 10 years, if you born 1/1/2000 you have 0 years old, in 1/1/2001 you have 1 year old, ergo in 1/1/2011 you are 10 years old. The only person who born 1 year old was Jesus.

I think gaming magazines, web sites, etc., only make this contests to test potential market information, they ask you, you answer, they sell that information to games companies, and voila, Gamefaqs is free, and they can profit, then you will see old games re-printed accordingly to fans reactions. Also these companies adcquire sponsors based in the false/real daily visit numbers or in the magazines case, with magazine sells.




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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/22/2010 1:09:14 AM | message detail
Get this one, too!

From: Seginustemple | #014
Decade is 2001-2010. People just can't wait to start analyzing a decade so they make it 2000-2009.

I'm usually not vocal when we have our silly disputes on this board. Which way the toilet paper hangs, whether your pour in milk first or cereal first, if you aim your stream to create bubbles or not. It's trivial stuff, not worth seriously getting riled up about. But this little gem right up here? This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. This the kind of unfortunate sentence that makes me sit back in my chair and once again acknowledge that I truly, deeply hate people. I hope that hell exists, and before people are sent there God himself takes them to a special room where he Chris Hansons them down into a chair and with his almighty power he shows them the divine vision of how incredibly wrong about everything they were throughout their entire lives. He makes them know ultimate shame and embarrassment, and just as the prime realization of those two feelings comes to its zenith he casts them into that hell where it remains with them for eternity.


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xp1337 | Posted 10/22/2010 1:18:46 AM | message detail
*Reads first 4 pages of the Stats Topic*

...Oh man, now I feel bad for going to sleep early last night and missing the end of TF2/Fable. Despite how close it was, I just couldn't get too interested in it, but if I had known we were in for those last few updates then I'd have stuck around without question!
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voltch | Posted 10/22/2010 1:19:56 AM | message detail
I hope we get good night matches, screw watching day matches that end at 5 am here.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/22/2010 1:20:43 AM | message detail
1 vote gain for UC2 there. LoD should get a cut eventually.
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creativename | Posted 10/22/2010 1:46:32 AM | message detail
This has become a pretty poor performance for UC2 so far. (hmm...does UC2 make sense as an abbreviation? eh, I'll use it anyway) I think Halo/SMS has become the "temporary" favorite at this point, though things could change depending on if they can out-crappy-performance UC2. Or at least Halo has become the temporary favorite over UC2. Especially since that will be a day match - both Halo and SMS should benefit from a day match, I would think.

From: Greyfeld | #1854
Well first off, nobody hates sonic. I can't think of a single time I've ever heard anybody talk about sonic getting anti-voted.


Just based off of this, I'm gonna guess you're new to these contests?

3-D Sonic is generally loathed, and mocked mercilessly. It will not be strong. Only question is, whether SF4 will be even sadder. (which is pretty much what the bottom half of this division is all about because all these games are weaksauce)

I agree that many are underrating SF4 and that it'll have gained strength. Though I still wouldn't expect it to have particularly respectable strength.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/22/2010 1:48:56 AM | message detail
I don't think anyone wants to call it "U2". >.>

6-vote cut for Legend of Dragoon!
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Not even 40 votes difference and from what I see the match was even the whole 12 hours...Man why can't be matches be like this?
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shane15 | Posted 10/22/2010 4:39:27 AM | message detail
*looks at TF2 vs Fable poll*

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