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red sox 777 | Posted 10/21/2010 7:54:09 PM | message detail
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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

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Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man.
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GrizzledVeteran | Posted 10/21/2010 7:58:07 PM | message detail
first for TF2
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Hookd_on_Foniks | Posted 10/21/2010 7:59:31 PM | message detail
Can't wait to see some X-stats.
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paperwarior | Posted 10/21/2010 7:59:54 PM | message detail
Well ****at.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/21/2010 8:00:26 PM | message detail
I just checked the Jan 2010 GOTD poll. Modern Warfare 2 got.....26.95% on FFX + Chrono Cross. 32.39% if you don't give FFX CC's votes. That's horrible! That puts it around the level of a Galaxy being SFF'd by Brawl. I'm not convinced SFF'd Galaxy is so far ahead of MKDS.

.....I want to put Legend of Dragoon for my battle pick, even though I switched to Uncharted 2 in my bracket. Hmm....
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.
Blood_of_Sokar | Posted 10/21/2010 8:01:02 PM | message detail
What time does this end?

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MeteorExF | Posted 10/21/2010 8:02:40 PM | message detail
1 hour
SnoicFactor | Posted 10/21/2010 8:02:42 PM | message detail
**** just got real!
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GrizzledVeteran | Posted 10/21/2010 8:02:55 PM | message detail

From: transients | #483
TF2 is like a MMOFPS, kinda. that's a totally different kind of game to something like Portal.


Yeah, it's more of a global experience, or way of life, than just a game. Especially if you've been following the game since it was released... it's like growing up all over again.
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tgs2 | Posted 10/21/2010 8:02:57 PM | message detail

From: Blood_of_Sokar | #006
What time does this end?


In one hour.

Also TF2 took back the lead
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Hookd_on_Foniks | Posted 10/21/2010 8:07:17 PM | message detail
Too bad this match is worth only 1 point.
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Glenn_and_Toad | Posted 10/21/2010 8:09:32 PM | message detail
tf2 has got this. Every time it loses the lead, its fans will rally to give it the lead back.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/21/2010 8:09:34 PM | message detail
Match V: (3) Uncharted 2 vs. (14) The Legend of Dragoon

Information

Name: Uncharted 2
Year: 2009
Previous Performance: N/A

Name: The Legend of Dragoon
Year: 2000
Previous Performance: N/A

Analysis

If it wasn’t for the vote-ins I don’t think anyone would be hyping this match, but as the old saying goes with new evidence you must change your theory. While I’m one of those guys that think Uncharted 2 is going to flop based on expectations I’m also a large sceptic on Legend of Dragoon.

The only thing Legend of Dragoon has to work with is the vote-in poll which it won over Mario Kart DS, a game that defeated God of War in 2005’s GotY. Let’s take the poll seriously for a moment and you can see two other Nintendo titles in the same poll that could have weakened Mario Kart DS. Yes other RPG games were also in the poll, but time and time again we see that Nintendo tends to have a lot more overlap than games sharing a genre.

We also have to look at what happened after that 2005 GotY poll. After the holidays God of War took a price cut and sales shot up and presumably a jump in strength, especially based on Kratos’ jump between 2005 and 2006. So the God of War Mario Kart DS defeated may have been different than the one that we saw in 2009. Mario Kart DS also has reason to be weaker today than in 2005, most notably people were still going crazy over its release and the fact that we could verse other people over wifi.

Moving over to Uncharted 2 even though the game was runner-up in the GotY it was a rather weak year in gaming and I don’t feel that any of the 2009 game will perform that well, especially if people are taking the Game of the Decade tag too seriously. Some people are trying to use the PS3 exclusive tag as a reason why it’ll be weak, but this isn’t 2008 anymore the PS3 is no longer made fun of and more importantly it is a legit console on GameFAQs. Even its ownership here isn’t that far off the Xbox360 anymore.

Legend of Dragoon was a RPG game released during the RPG wave that hit the Playstation after Final Fantasy VII came. I would rank it a tier below Chrono Cross and Xenogears and while we don’t have much information on those games I feel that it doesn’t give the game much room to work with. Uncharted 2 can still lose and I wouldn’t be surprised, but at the same time I feel strangely confident that it’ll win without too much trouble.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Uncharted 2 > The Legend of Dragoon

charmander6000’s Prediction: Uncharted 2 wins, 58.84% - 41.16%

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PrinceKaro | Posted 10/21/2010 8:09:46 PM | message detail
Too bad this match is worth only 1 point.

It's worth a lot more battle challenge-wise.

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Haguile | Posted 10/21/2010 8:10:14 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #013
If it wasn’t for the vote-ins I don’t think anyone would be hyping this match, but


There's hype for this match?
transients | Posted 10/21/2010 8:10:49 PM | message detail
despite this being hyper close, the only way Fable wins it is if it has one big update to push it into the lead. the second it gets the lead, TF2's gonna take it right back, so it won't be able to just hold that lead for 2-3 updates. it'll need to just win the last update big.

in other words, save your votes
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/21/2010 8:12:18 PM | message detail
Huh, okay. Further analysis of old polls corroborates this being close/LoD having an advantage. Time to ignore the board and take Legend of Dragoon in the battle contest and oracle.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 10/21/2010 8:13:06 PM | message detail
Match over. It was great while it lasted.
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/21/2010 8:13:27 PM | message detail
Legend of Dragoon can DO THIS. HARPOON
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/21/2010 8:14:12 PM | message detail
Fable might not even get the chance to have one final comeback update with the rate TF2 is gaining.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 10/21/2010 8:14:47 PM | message detail
I was planning on banking the next match but I'm not positive who will win this. This could be bad for the battle challenge if it comes down to the last update.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/21/2010 8:15:34 PM | message detail
Eh, the Fable pickers still got a moral victory imo. You'd all be geniuses if this was a night match.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2010 8:15:46 PM | message detail
I'm surprised people thought Fable could do this. There was no way TF2 wasn't going to rally its ass off in the waning updates if this was close.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/21/2010 8:16:12 PM | message detail
some dude on the TF2 board said he rallied on another site
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/21/2010 8:16:58 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #024
some dude on the TF2 board said he rallied on another site


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transients | Posted 10/21/2010 8:17:01 PM | message detail
I don't see why Fable would win a night match. TF2 should be better then.
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Pondos | Posted 10/21/2010 8:18:01 PM | message detail
Europe doesn't give a **** about TF2.
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/21/2010 8:18:06 PM | message detail
I'm surprised people thought Fable could do this. There was no way TF2 wasn't going to rally its ass off in the waning updates if this was close.

I'm surprised people DIDN'T think Fable could do this. The fact that this match has been so close only emphasizes the fact that it was never a lock for TF2. People have had to rally their asses off for the last 4 hours just to keep Fable from pulling out a lead.
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/21/2010 8:18:23 PM | message detail
Looks like Fable bout to throw in the towel
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2010 8:21:00 PM | message detail

From: Greyfeld | #028
I'm surprised people thought Fable could do this. There was no way TF2 wasn't going to rally its ass off in the waning updates if this was close.

I'm surprised people DIDN'T think Fable could do this. The fact that this match has been so close only emphasizes the fact that it was never a lock for TF2. People have had to rally their asses off for the last 4 hours just to keep Fable from pulling out a lead.


I didn't mean the match wasn't a tossup going in, sorry. I was worried about this one. I just mean Fable could not have won it close.
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 10/21/2010 8:22:05 PM | message detail
It might finally be over :(
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/21/2010 8:23:31 PM | message detail
We don't (well didn't now) know the trends of the two games very well. It might not have been close after the ASV or SNV kicked in.
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Haguile | Posted 10/21/2010 8:24:06 PM | message detail
Small cut.
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 10/21/2010 8:24:50 PM | message detail
Fable needs to average an 11 vote cut per update to win this. It's not over yet but one more update win for TF2 and I'll call it.
GrizzledVeteran | Posted 10/21/2010 8:27:13 PM | message detail
Well, it's pretty clear that the vote difference has been going in a repeated sine wave form. The absolute minimum of the wave is just inside Fable's favor, while the majority of the wave is in TF2 territory.

Looks like the wave just peaked, and is going back down to Fable.... I wonder if the final update is during that ever-so-short dip into Fable's territory... that would suck
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/21/2010 8:27:47 PM | message detail
Fun fact: Legend of Dragoon beats FF12 in both reader ratings and reviews.

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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/21/2010 8:27:52 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #030
I didn't mean the match wasn't a tossup going in, sorry. I was worried about this one. I just mean Fable could not have won it close.


Pretty much. If Fable had even a few hundred votes over TF2, that may have been enough to stem off potential TF2 rallies since it's still been competitive all day despite TF2 getting rally votes. This close, though, it's screwed since it has no real rally strength compared to the Valve game.

Solid moral victory for Fable, though. Doesn't mean much for my bracket or battle picks, though!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2010 8:28:26 PM | message detail
Trigonometry all up in my stats topix
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ZFS | Posted 10/21/2010 8:29:03 PM | message detail
Fun fact: Legend of Dragoon beats FF12 in both reader ratings and reviews.

gamefaqs is a terrible place

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2010 8:29:05 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #036
Fun fact: Legend of Dragoon beats FF12 in both reader ratings and reviews.


I seriously banked my points. I'm not even scared for Uncharted 2, I just want points in that battle thinger.
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 10/21/2010 8:29:19 PM | message detail
Does Fable have one last run?
Julian_Caesar | Posted 10/21/2010 8:30:15 PM | message detail
it just cut the lead to 84....not impossible but appearing more and more unlikely as time passes

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tgs2 | Posted 10/21/2010 8:31:40 PM | message detail

From: Julian_Caesar | #042
it just cut the lead to 84....not impossible but appearing more and more unlikely as time passes


Still time for a patented 44 vote cut then slow stall
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Hookd_on_Foniks | Posted 10/21/2010 8:34:03 PM | message detail
I banked next match.

This battle thing is pretty cool.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2010 8:34:39 PM | message detail
It really is. I'm hoping it sticks around, but I have no faith in that.
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GrizzledVeteran | Posted 10/21/2010 8:35:53 PM | message detail
Hmm, back up to 89, I guess my sine wave theory approached the issue at the wrong angle
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Glenn_and_Toad | Posted 10/21/2010 8:35:56 PM | message detail
Battle should stick around forever. Being able to change picks as the tournament progresses is great.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2010 8:36:49 PM | message detail
I finally caught up!

Yeesh...TF2's been fighting hard, and it looks like it's going to pay off if it doesn't butcher the end of this match. Whew.
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Pondos | Posted 10/21/2010 8:38:20 PM | message detail
TF2 is gonna win and then get all its stuffed votes slashed.

Alright, that probably won't happen, but I think it'd be hilarious.
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Julian_Caesar | Posted 10/21/2010 8:38:23 PM | message detail
wtf....24 vote cut!!!!!!

at that rate....3 updates will give Fable the lead!!!

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