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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/18/2010 9:20:12 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #350
Over/Under: 8 matches before everyone on the board wears this expression at least once:

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2010 9:20:30 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #350
Over/Under: 8 matches before everyone on the board wears this expression at least once:

http://www.animea.net/images/db/987/056knuckles.jpg


Hopefully Knuckles will be making an appearance early.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 9:22:12 PM | message detail
One better, blazer: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dcdi--LdAeQ/Sa1sWd8j4pI/AAAAAAAAEBg/BGX_vc32JHc/s400/wtf.jpg

Yay cn is back! Get to uploading match pics >_>
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kinsho3 | Posted 10/18/2010 9:24:04 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #228
Simply put, at least more people recognize/possibly played Ninja Gaiden games over Uncharted games and that might be enough to give Uncharted 2 a good fight.

Doubt this -- Uncharted 1 and 2 both outsold NG1 and NG2. Those games have high acclaim, but they're not very accessible. Ninja Gaiden has a recognition, but that's more because of the fact its been around for over twenty years as opposed to everyone having played it. I wouldn't treat Uncharted as some unknown series. Between the US and Europe, it's sold 2.5 million copies.


Do you have links for any of these sales figures? I'd figure NG at least sold a couple million or so copies...

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2010 9:25:27 PM | message detail
Under. I have a feeling our expectations are going to be destroyed. PSYCHONAUTS>BATMAN LET'S GO

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 9:25:30 PM | message detail
That is seriously the greatest image ever.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 9:29:16 PM | message detail
My hiccup with pulling the trigger on Oblivion > Wind Waker is Oblivion didn't look that good last year. Wind Waker would have smoked that first round poll, then Oblivion had a close second place against World of Warcraft before finishing with something like 45% on MGS3 in round 3 where it was booted from the contest. Wind Waker probably beats MGS3 heads-up, forget 45%. I will definitely hope I'm wrong that day, though. Wind Waker is a terrible game.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/18/2010 9:31:01 PM | message detail
Well with the bracket closing my upset special had the bracket given me the opportunity would have been

TP > FFX

Discuss...
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/18/2010 9:31:45 PM | message detail
- OK, in the BOP for Northwest Division Round 3, *no one* is picking Oblivion? 33 picks for Wind Waker and 1 for AC2? How is Wind Waker the unanimous choice over Oblivion? My initial thought was that Oblivion should win here. I thought it was pretty well respected on this site

I'm surprised at that- that match has gotten discussion here, and I just switched to Oblivion yesterday actually.
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/18/2010 9:31:57 PM | message detail
*Discusses*
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/18/2010 9:32:43 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #358
Wind Waker is a terrible game.


hoh I would liek to hear your thoughts on why
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ZFS | Posted 10/18/2010 9:34:02 PM | message detail
Do you have links for any of these sales figures? I'd figure NG at least sold a couple million or so copies.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/12/uncharted-2-outselling-first-closing-in-on-3-million-sold/
http://www.examiner.com/video-game-news-in-national/uncharted-2-tops-2-5-million-copies-sold

First one sold around the same, 2.5 million or so. For comparison, Ninja Gaiden II sold 1 million copies worldwide. Now, after a certain point comparing million seller games is a bit pointless, especially since we're on a site that won't get much more than 120,000 votes per match, but it goes to show that Uncharted isn't a small time series. It's a lot more relevant for people today than Ninja Gaiden is.

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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/18/2010 9:34:03 PM | message detail
Also kinda surprised at GSC being a slight favorite over MGS4.

Good to see you back. GSC vs MGS3/4 is going to be a day match and GSC managed to go even with MGS during the day in the previous games contest:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3463&type=1&seconds=60&max=0

MGS is considered to be the strongest of the MGS games. FFT was in the match and may have affected MGS, though. Also since the previous contest we've had a Pokemon GS remake released and the new generation of Pokemon games just came out in Japan.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/18/2010 9:37:44 PM | message detail
I'm the rebel who has Wind Waker winning its division.

Under the assumption that GSC is being vastly overrated, and my gut's telling me Wind Waker is underrated; the hate's really died down for it. We've had four Celda sequels and nobody complains about the art style; they're fine with it, and Wind Waker's the reason for it. Besides, it's much closer to a traditional Zelda game than Majora's Mask is.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2010 9:38:39 PM | message detail
Honestly, I might have bitten on Oblivion > Majora's Mask.

I still might bite on Oblivion > Wind Waker, but at this point, I don't expect to change my bracket anymore.
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/18/2010 9:41:02 PM | message detail

From: Big Bob | #365
I'm the rebel who has Wind Waker winning its division.


I changed to Wind Waker winning the division recently as well
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/18/2010 9:42:20 PM | message detail
I'm still surprised at the support for Crystal. Aside from the fact that it's a night match, Majora's Mask is the closest thing to OoT in the bracket (although I think it's far better than OoT)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2010 9:44:26 PM | message detail
Twilight Princess is the strongest Zelda game in the bracket, so no, it's not.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/18/2010 9:47:17 PM | message detail
Twilight Princess is the strongest Zelda game in the bracket, so no, it's not.

Really? I thought the older games would be stronger for sure..meh but it kind of makes sense I guess..
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 9:48:55 PM | message detail
Thanks for that, Hippo.
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/18/2010 9:49:00 PM | message detail
I'm still surprised at the support for Crystal. Aside from the fact that it's a night match, Majora's Mask is the closest thing to OoT in the bracket (although I think it's far better than OoT)

Crystal is second generation, which is only slightly less beloved than RBY. Majora's Mask on the other hand is cult status within the Zelda series (kinda like how FFIX is cult withing final fantasy). Since we're looking at entire games, rather than just characters, the disparity in popularity between titles starts to stand out.
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/18/2010 9:49:54 PM | message detail
Maybe if MM was the last Zelda standing it might be enough for Zelda fans to rally around it a bit. However, TP would have advanced to Round 4 only a few days before and Wind Waker would be up in the very next match. I can't see MM getting any particular boost. It's up against another Nintendo game as well.
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kinsho3 | Posted 10/18/2010 9:50:15 PM | message detail
I actually wanted to see Ninja Gaiden sales figures instead. I'll be surprised if it didn't sell over a million and a half copies or so, considering it was pretty hyped.

But to piggyback off your point, you're right when sales don't matter much on this site. Uncharted sold well, but then again, so did games like RE5 and that isn't expected to do well at all.

I still feel Uncharted hasn't been fully accepted here, though, and I doubt I'll change this pick before tomorrow. The fact that it's exclusive to one console doesn't help, but Nathan Drake's performance in the last contest is the icing on the cake for me. Kratos and Altair did so much better with their respective debuts compared to Drake and God of War and Assassin's Creed are probably around the level of midcarders.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 9:51:26 PM | message detail
One upset I'm honestly entertaining is GSC beating FFX. GSC is massive in Japan, just got a remake, Black and White were just released over there, and collectively this could mess up FFX's night vote a bit. Then during the day, we all know what happens with POKEFEAR. The match is probably already within the 55-45 range, and anything can happen from there late in contests once things get weird.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2010 9:52:43 PM | message detail
I don't know why we care about Asia's impact on this contest, but...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3858&region=ASI
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2010 9:54:10 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504&region=ASI

Take that, Asia
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 9:55:23 PM | message detail
lol ouch, Pokemon got worked over
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2010 9:58:53 PM | message detail
This is what should get you worried about FFX: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504&region=US

RBY won in the U.S. despite all the Nintendo.

But FFX vs. G/S/C could be a Squall/Auron where FFX wins despite losing the U.S. because it wins so handily everywhere else.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 10:00:59 PM | message detail
Does anyone know what GSC and FFX's stat rating was based on last contest? Some dumb SFF match, right?
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/18/2010 10:01:30 PM | message detail
Thanks for that, Hippo.

It must be nice to get away with trolling.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2010 10:02:25 PM | message detail
I would imagine G/S/C's is based on MGS1's percentage on OoT using its round 1 percentage against MGS, and FFX's is probably based on MGS4 somehow, one of its three matches with OoT, at least.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/18/2010 10:03:27 PM | message detail
I guess it depends on how close you think MGS is to FFX.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 10:04:26 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #382
I would imagine G/S/C's is based on MGS1's percentage on OoT using its round 1 percentage against MGS


Okay so it's based on a match where FFT held MGS back a bit. It's definitely overrated in the stats then.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2010 10:06:10 PM | message detail
Well, I could look up an old stats topic and see what I based it on (although my stats aren't what are in the LOL XStats Generator).
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 10:06:54 PM | message detail
Man, I'm looking at last year at these two Majora's Mask matches. Can you imagine how badly this board gets burned on Majora's Mask vs GSC if last year's contest never happens?
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/18/2010 10:07:01 PM | message detail
This is what should get you worried about FFX: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504&region=US

RBY won in the U.S. despite all the Nintendo.

But FFX vs. G/S/C could be a Squall/Auron where FFX wins despite losing the U.S. because it wins so handily everywhere else.


The way I see it, Melee got seriously SFFed by RBY and LoZ. Granted, the asia region pounded in the votes for FFX, but that was what... 7% of the world vote? I have to wonder how many votes Melee would have gotten in a 1v1 where it didn't have to worry about SFF sapping its votes like crazy.
red sox 777 | Posted 10/18/2010 10:08:32 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's probably a bit below 47% on MGS, but not too far as it put up 42% on RBY directly in a match where it had every opportunity to be SFF'd and Last Place Factored to oblivion. I think GSC beating FFX is definitely possible- it just requires that Pokemon continued boosting steadily since the last games contest- not going to take it though.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2010 10:09:02 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #386
Man, I'm looking at last year at these two Majora's Mask matches. Can you imagine how badly this board gets burned on Majora's Mask vs GSC if last year's contest never happens?


The board already got pretty badly burned by RBY last year.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2010 10:09:27 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #386
Man, I'm looking at last year at these two Majora's Mask matches. Can you imagine how badly this board gets burned on Majora's Mask vs GSC if last year's contest never happens?


About as bad as they got burned on R/B/Y vs. MM last year, if not worse.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 10:09:39 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #384
Okay so it's based on a match where FFT held MGS back a bit. It's definitely overrated in the stats then.


I think this isn't likely. System-LFF's too widely thrown around, plus we forget FFT and GS share a genre too so that should offset these minor issues people blow out of proportion. Even if you insist, it still got ~42% on RBY and nearly beat LoZ:MM despite RBY in the poll. That's some legit power.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 10:09:46 PM | message detail
Ibuki's first target combo is seriously the funniest move in SSF4. Better than anything Fuerte does.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/18/2010 10:10:59 PM | message detail
Majora's Mask can still beat GSC. The more I look at that Round 2 match from 2009, the weirder it looks. If GSC is really strong enough to keep the RBY beatdown at a super respectable 55/45, then why didn't it outright beat MGS in the first round? It was the only Nintendo game, it stood out like crazy, and MGS was dealing with another PS1 game.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/18/2010 10:11:11 PM | message detail
The way I see it, Melee got seriously SFFed by RBY and LoZ. Granted, the asia region pounded in the votes for FFX, but that was what... 7% of the world vote? I have to wonder how many votes Melee would have gotten in a 1v1 where it didn't have to worry about SFF sapping its votes like crazy.

Asia only had 2.90% of the votes in that match.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/18/2010 10:11:58 PM | message detail
About as bad as they got burned on R/B/Y vs. MM last year, if not worse.

RBY had plenty of support in that match though. Without last year's contest, we'd still think of GSC as a game that lost handily to Xenogears.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 10:13:33 PM | message detail
And yes that was meant for the stats topic and not the [ssf4] topic.

Back on point. If (big if) the lol x-stats machine is legit, it has GSC getting something like 47% on FFX. A remake + Pokemon's clutch can't make up 3% in a 24 hour match? Especially late in a contest when all the "FINAL FANTASY ALWAYS WINS IMMA BE COOL AND VOTE THE OTHER THING" always kicks in?
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Greyfeld | Posted 10/18/2010 10:14:14 PM | message detail
oops sorry, that's 7% of the total FFX votes. You're right about the total though.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/12/2009 12:18:34 AM | message detail
I bet someone brings this poll up if we ever have another game contest.


Ulti referencing the Post-E3 poll where Golden Sun DS got 2nd place.

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red sox 777 | Posted 10/18/2010 10:16:15 PM | message detail
If GSC is really strong enough to keep the RBY beatdown at a super respectable 55/45, then why didn't it outright beat MGS in the first round? It was the only Nintendo game, it stood out like crazy, and MGS was dealing with another PS1 game.

Because MGS is strong. As in.....a little stronger than FFX, in my opinion.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/18/2010 10:16:29 PM | message detail
Back on point. If (big if) the lol x-stats machine is legit, it has GSC getting something like 47% on FFX. A remake + Pokemon's clutch can't make up 3% in a 24 hour match? Especially late in a contest when all the "FINAL FANTASY ALWAYS WINS IMMA BE COOL AND VOTE THE OTHER THING" always kicks in?

Using x-stats, that's brilliant.
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