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quicksilvver | Posted 10/18/2010 11:00:19 AM | message detail
I still stand by Platinum > Brawl, by the way.

For the finals?
Awesome, one less bracket I need to worry about :)
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/18/2010 11:01:53 AM | message detail
Platinum and Brawl meeting in the finals is a physical impossibility.

Stop talking.
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transience | Posted 10/18/2010 11:03:37 AM | message detail
yeesh, no need to be a dick.
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neonreaper | Posted 10/18/2010 11:07:26 AM | message detail
So you think HL2 beats Fallout, tranny?

Are you guys happy with your brackets, or do you guys plan on making a few more tweaks? I'm still a little wishy washy on the Halo/Halo 3 fourpack, and I'm also trying to talk myself out of taking Crystal as far as I have, that's about it.
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/18/2010 11:10:06 AM | message detail
I may change my bracket to take 1 or 2 more crazy upsets

other than that I probably won't change it anymore
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draarrowgant | Posted 10/18/2010 11:10:33 AM | message detail
Hey guys- made a topic to discuss hedging your picks between the battle and bracket contest entries... I didn't want to put it in here as a discussion thread as its separate from a stats discussion...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56799341

Curious as to everyone's thoughts on the topic... then again, if you think it's a lame discussion- meh...
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2010 11:11:17 AM | message detail
I'm probably going to change my entire bracket to be have all fanboy picks at the last second.

Because really, this year the Battle Challenge is where the real money is at.

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quicksilvver | Posted 10/18/2010 11:12:35 AM | message detail
Platinum and Brawl meeting in the finals is a physical impossibility.

Stop talking.


Sorry, I was just laughing so hard at this prediction that everything else escaped me xD
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/18/2010 11:13:02 AM | message detail
But you don't want money AND a Guru nomation?
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transience | Posted 10/18/2010 11:13:45 AM | message detail
I've had HL2 since day 1 but I waffled a few days ago. I just figure this is an RPG site and that will shine through. HL2's rally potential is immense though and I almost picked it to win the contest.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 11:15:29 AM | message detail
I'm as happy with my bracket as I'm going to get, I suppose. I try not to edit my bracket after the first week of the bracket's release though; changing that policy last contest bit me in the ass every single time. I want to second-guess matches as big as FFX/GSC and as small as Paper Mario:TTYD/Gears of War, but...well, just gotta trust in myself and the bracket after a certain point.
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transience | Posted 10/18/2010 11:17:33 AM | message detail
over the last few days I've made a lot of changes that feel like smart picks, but also feel like overthinking picks. at this point I'm kind of in a damned-if-you-do damned-if-you-don't spot and I really don't like it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2010 11:21:06 AM | message detail
Let's see. DMC3 beating Metroid Prime? Symphonia beating God of War? Persona 4 winning its fourpack? Yup let's do this

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/18/2010 11:30:06 AM | message detail

From: neonreaper | #054
Are you guys happy with your brackets, or do you guys plan on making a few more tweaks?


My bracket is ass. I haven't really sat down and looked at everything since SB unveiled it, but I'll do that once I finish this ME2 run and will probably retool a lot of stuff.
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neonreaper | Posted 10/18/2010 11:32:47 AM | message detail
I looked through FFX the past few years, and it has a solid grab in contests with 4+ entrants. It seems like a real sign of strength that FFX tends to gets its votes first in terms of the decade. Smash Bros. has a natural split Nintendo fanbase, and I have this FFX > Smash feeling, but I've seen Nintendo chew the heck out of everything in contests here.

Sunshine makes me think because it's Mario in a 1v1 against a game that won't be highly regarded. I could see Sunshine making two Halo games look foolish, even moreso considering that few people really like Sunshine. When I think about it like this, it seems like we're ripe for a lot of LOL HALO topics and yet I don't have Sunshine in my bracket. That's making me itchy.

I think Fallout 3 looked better last contest, it's an RPG and has a 'sequel' coming out tomorrow and I don't think HL2 has improved enough to really recover from that.

Hmmm if Portal and Half-Life 2 met, who would win? maybe you guys already discussed that sorta thing to death
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/18/2010 11:35:57 AM | message detail
Probably Half-Life 2. It's Valve's flagship game/series. It has two sequels and the total playtime is like an insane 30+ hours. Hard for five-hour Portal to compete.
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transience | Posted 10/18/2010 11:40:19 AM | message detail
I dunno, I always saw it as kind of a tossup. Portal got a lot more buzz around here than HL2 ever did, maybe because Portal hit all at once when Orange Box came out whereas HL2 has been slowly discovered over a number of years.
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transience | Posted 10/18/2010 11:41:53 AM | message detail
how does everyone feel about Oblivion vs. Mass Effect? I expect people to take Oblivion there en masse but I dunno, ME is kind of unproven and I could see it doing real damage now that it doesn't have Fallout 3 on its back. I definitely hear more about ME than I do Oblivion.
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whatisurnameplz | Posted 10/18/2010 11:42:14 AM | message detail
I'm pretty happy with my bracket. At first I had crystal beating melee, but after some consideration I had Melee > FFX for the final match. I for the most part have no problems with my bracket, even if it has a few risky picks.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/18/2010 11:43:58 AM | message detail
Well, I think HL2 was ahead even when just looking at contest results. It was consistently worth 39-40% on Twilight Princess while Portal consistently scored 36-37% on MGS4. I also think HL2's semi-close win against FFXII was more impressive than Portal's similarly close win against Bioshock. You pit the two together, and I also gotta side with HL2 getting the SFF.
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neonreaper | Posted 10/18/2010 11:46:57 AM | message detail
I also look at the bracket in general and think that Galaxy could have been used better, it's like two obvious wins and then out to TP. I'd like to have seen some Galaxy v KH setup.
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neonreaper | Posted 10/18/2010 11:54:31 AM | message detail
how does everyone feel about Oblivion vs. Mass Effect? I expect people to take Oblivion there en masse but I dunno, ME is kind of unproven and I could see it doing real damage now that it doesn't have Fallout 3 on its back. I definitely hear more about ME than I do Oblivion.

I hate it because I love Oblivion and have no experience with ME and I would either be picking with bias, or against bias, and in those situations I tend to side with what other people pick instead of my own conclusion.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 11:54:48 AM | message detail

From: neonreaper | #065
Hmmm if Portal and Half-Life 2 met, who would win? maybe you guys already discussed that sorta thing to death


I've brought this up before and didn't manage to get much discussion, but it's hard to compare them stat-wise; the best I could do was try assuming LoZ:TP = MGS4 since HL2/Portal faced them twice...which leads HL2 to a 53%-54% victory, and I'd take LoZ:TP to beat MGS4 too.

That said, Portal's had a busy year. Portal 2 was announced with its release coming up soon, and Valve gave away probably over two million copies of Portal for free with its release of Steam for Macs (don't mind the link's name; that was when there were still four days left):

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/20/free-portal-downloaded-1-5-million-times/

This is coupled with Steam nearly tripling itself in size this year:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6282216.html

Portal was also the star of the Orange Box, which is what it took for Gordon Freeman to finally become respectable here. It'd be hard to take it over HL2, but I'd bet on it getting close head-to-head (closer than FF12 got last year).
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/18/2010 11:56:49 AM | message detail
I'm thinking that if TF2 can do respectably against Fable, Portal should be in good shape. HL2 stands on its own.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 12:05:34 PM | message detail
Even though we don't know much about Fable or if CoD4 SFF'd TF2, I'll be inclined to agree. A TS2-victory (and strong showings from L4D against GoW and HL2 against GTA3) will make Portal look a lot better, but those are easier said than done.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/18/2010 12:07:15 PM | message detail
I'd say TF2 is a better measure than L4D, since Valve characters and games seem to vary in strength so much, I'd sooner trust games featured in the same package than games simply from the same company.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/18/2010 12:12:24 PM | message detail
With all the steam sales talk going on, does anyone think it honestly trinkled down to TF2?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 12:20:39 PM | message detail
TF2 got stupid-cheap stupid-often and word of mouth caught on at B8...plus when they opened up trading in the game, the TF2-board got swamped in a matter of minutes.

Probably to some degree, but we don't know if its BGE2-value's legit or not and we don't know where Fable's at.
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transients | Posted 10/18/2010 12:22:23 PM | message detail
TF2 is a monster amongst the right audience. it's just a matter of figuring out if that audience crosses enough with GameFAQs. people adore the hell out of that game, but only the PC version.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 12:22:40 PM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | #076
I'd say TF2 is a better measure than L4D, since Valve characters and games seem to vary in strength so much, I'd sooner trust games featured in the same package than games simply from the same company.


True enough.
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Glenn_and_Toad | Posted 10/18/2010 12:25:52 PM | message detail
Because tf2 is multiplayer-oriented and still being constantly updated, it's managed to be the rare game that has constantly grown rather than declined since its release. It's likely a bit stronger than its value in BGE2. Considering we really have no idea where Fable is, you'd have to be betting on tf2 to be very weak in order to rationalize taking Fable over it, and I'm not ready to do that.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/18/2010 12:27:04 PM | message detail
Team Fortress 2 is one of those games that you don't even have had to play in order to love. Even if you don't play the game, the cast members are everywhere, and Valve constantly puts out hilarious videos. Everyone knows and loves TF2. Everyone knows and hates Fable.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/18/2010 12:28:29 PM | message detail
How do we even know if Fable is weak?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 12:29:30 PM | message detail
Really, what scares me about Fable is two words: Xbox RPG. I don't know which word's going to win out when talking about Fable under the context that we know it's already gonna be pretty weak.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/18/2010 12:29:41 PM | message detail
^Right, the 360 versions of the HL2 and its episodes/Portal are single player content, and easily enjoyable on a console. TF2, on the other hand, is **** compared to the PC versions, especially three years removed where its still getting free updates, weapons, maps, modes, items, patches, etc and I think the 360 version hasn't been updated once lol. TF2 has remained popular(I know "lol board standings" but its been a permanent fixture of the top 10 PC boards since 2007), but only with the PC gamers.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 12:31:56 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #083
How do we even know if Fable is weak?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1873
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2249
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3356
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4046

None of that really excites me, though that last poll reminds me Fable 3's just about out...ugh. Here I was, trying to feel more comfortable with taking TF2.....
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2010 12:33:21 PM | message detail
Honestly? No one ever brings up the fact that CoD4 was SFFing TF2 in that match. Why everyone looks at the Pokemon and the Mario game and not the two online & console FPS multiplayer games is beyond me.

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Intanos VI | Posted 10/18/2010 12:33:48 PM | message detail
So do we have all day tomorrow to sort our picks out? Or do i need to do it by tonight?

Portal beating FFXII and Mass Effect imo.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 12:37:12 PM | message detail
I've been mentioning it, but it's hard to say how much it really means. CoD4 was already beating Orange Box easily in its multi-platform GotY in 2007, TF2's the weakest of the Orange Box's games pretty easily here, and TF2 is such a unique kind of FPS that's PC-dominant while CoD4 had marketed itself to be the new standard -- especially for consoles. I imagine there was at least a little, but anything more feels uncertain and presumptuous until it proves itself.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/18/2010 12:40:07 PM | message detail
Participants may create their brackets starting on October 5, 2010 and ending at 6:59:59 PM ET on October 19, 2010 (the "Entry Period").

So I think we have 27 more hours or so.

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VeryInsane | Posted 10/18/2010 12:40:10 PM | message detail
Man every so called toss up pick aside from Melee vs. Brawl is pretty easy... (Had Brawl winning at first, but now it's Melee)

Ok, Half-Life 2 and Metroid Prime's somewhat hard too. I had Prime winning at first, but I changed it to HL2 after a little while. Not to mention...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1628

The Original Half-Life got 44% when Metroid Prime was rather new, and well over months before HL2 came out. A few years have passed, and I also would take Half-Life 2 over the original any day of the week, with ease. Can it potentially beat Metroid Prime, which has been much weaker then in the past? I'm thinking so.
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neonreaper | Posted 10/18/2010 12:42:27 PM | message detail
Hmm, well, if people weren't voting for CoD4, would they have voted TF2? I kinda think everyone who wants to vote TF2 is voting TF2 there. It just wasn't much of a draw.
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neonreaper | Posted 10/18/2010 12:43:08 PM | message detail
whoops what day of the week is it
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/18/2010 12:56:02 PM | message detail
I'm happy. Only considering changing to Oblivion > Wind Waker and Team Fortress 2 > Batman.

Wind Waker, even in a day match, feels like the type of game the western fans will go into full-on Eff You mode against and Oblivion is close enough to where it could take advantage. Something huge, somewhere, will happen with a western game or two this contest. Oblivion feels like the big candidate for it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 1:00:02 PM | message detail

From: neonreaper | #094
Hmm, well, if people weren't voting for CoD4, would they have voted TF2? I kinda think everyone who wants to vote TF2 is voting TF2 there. It just wasn't much of a draw.


That's what I'm kinda thinking with this. I'm sure there were some people who drifted to CoD4 just because of how big it is and it's the standard way to play FPSs, and there's no doubt TF2-fans consider themselves FPS-fans...but we're talking about a comical cel-shaded class-based teams-only PC-dominant game with an emphasis on hats. Overlap is skeptical past a certain degree.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/18/2010 1:01:01 PM | message detail
VI, this poll completely shuts down the Metroid Prime vs. Half-Life poll + growth idea you've got.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2797
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/18/2010 1:04:05 PM | message detail
^Yes, I'm sure Metroid Prime being the only Nintendo, console-only shooter on that poll had NOTHING to do with the victory, no sir.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/18/2010 1:04:39 PM | message detail

From: Justin_Crossing | #098
VI, this poll completely shuts down the Metroid Prime vs. Half-Life poll + growth idea you've got.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2797


Pre-Orange Box. That was when Gordon was losing to Duke Nukem, not beating Scorpion.
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