GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 916
whatisurnameplz | Posted 10/17/2010 3:59:28 PM | message detail |
People,
Melee is going to beat Brawl. In the last games contests they were
about equal, and since less and less people care about the Wii these
days, Brawl's going to lose strength. Melee is clearly going to win
this. --- Official member of the Nintendo Defense Force http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:00:07 PM | message detail |
How many times has the entrant the core fanbase supported lost before? Has it ever? --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 4:01:35 PM | message detail |
From: whatisurnameplz | #401 are you arguing more people care about the gamecube than wii nowadays xfd --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/17/2010 4:01:46 PM | message detail |
How many times has the entrant the core fanbase supported lost before? Has it ever? Fallout 3 would massacre Fallout 2, even though the core Fallout fanbase prefers it and calls Fallout 3 "casualfying it" --- http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 4:01:49 PM | message detail |
How do we know that? --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/17/2010 4:02:40 PM | message detail |
Alternative picture: the maze in SSE Vs the zelda themed maze from Melee's adventure mode. Melee to take 80+% of the vote. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 4:03:44 PM | message detail |
Also, I am still waffling on Crisis Core vs. FFXII guys. grargh --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:04:18 PM | message detail |
Fallout 3 would massacre Fallout 2, even though the core Fallout fanbase prefers it and calls Fallout 3 "casualfying it" Does the core Fallout fanbase really support Fallout 2 over 3, or is this more like hardcore LTTP fans prefering it to OOT? --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/17/2010 4:04:23 PM | message detail |
From: Justin_Crossing | #403 We're talking about a website huge on nostalgia, where the strongest titles all come from the 90s. I don't think its a stretch to think GameFAQs thinks of the Gamecube more highly than the Wii. --- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:05:37 PM | message detail |
are you arguing more people care about the gamecube than wii nowadays Look at the most recent polls about the Wii. This site is very very down on the Wii. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/17/2010 4:06:01 PM | message detail |
All I know is that Fallout 3 is a LOT different from FO 1/2. --- The 3DS will be $200 or I'm closing my account - Ngamer64 |
whatisurnameplz | Posted 10/17/2010 4:06:55 PM | message detail |
are you arguing more people care about the gamecube than wii nowadays xfd Well think about this way. The core demographic for GameFAQs is about 20 years old. These people played Melee when they were kids, and therefore have more nostalgia for Melee than Brawl. Also, this match is going to have some SFF, and that means that the fanbase will decide who wins. The Smash fanbase prefers Melee over Brawl, especially since Melee has a tourney scene. --- Official member of the Nintendo Defense Force http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 4:07:02 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #410 that does not change the fact that the gamecube is even farther down do you even think about what you say before you say it --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/17/2010 4:07:13 PM | message detail |
I
took FF12 immediately without thinking and since I have Portal beating
it I didn't give it any thought afterward. You could probably make a
case for CC, but even with FF12 getting anti-voted, CC having Zack
UNfair and having FF7 in the title, it's still a PSP game on a side
from the series Vs a mainline game from the PS2. But who cares, Portal4life or something. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:09:05 PM | message detail |
that does not change the fact that the gamecube is even farther down do you even think about what you say before you say it But it's not! Not on Gamefaqs! Look at the old polls for GC- the ownership was always quite close to PS2, and it always did way better in opinion polls than Wii is doing nowadays. Wii did way better when it first came out- but since 2007, the Wii has taken a meteoric decline in opinion polls on this site. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/17/2010 4:09:49 PM | message detail |
Does the core Fallout fanbase really support Fallout 2 over 3, or is this more like hardcore LTTP fans prefering it to OOT? The original fans of the 2d top down games from the 90s vastly prefer it, and don't even consider Fallout 3 the same series, since its a different developer. Like I know the site No Mutants Allowed (the biggest Fallout fan site before Fallout 3 came around) ban you on site if you say you prefer Fallout 3. --- http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 4:10:51 PM | message detail |
From: whatisurnameplz | Posted: 10/17/2010 7:06:55 PM | #412 Um.. both have tourney scenes. --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:11:12 PM | message detail |
Okay,
but it seems the games actually are quite different, are they not? It's
not comparable with Smash, where the games are similar, and Melee was
already really popular before Brawl. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/17/2010 4:11:44 PM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #416 XD --- And I certainly do not agree with my words being taken out of context. - Vlado |
Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/17/2010 4:13:41 PM | message detail |
Might be wrong on both counts here, but I believe the MGS fanbase prefers 3 yet 4 is the favourite to win the division. --- James - Board 8's Resident Warm And Safe, Slipper-Wearing User & The Cream of Porcupine Tree Fanboyism |
whatisurnameplz | Posted 10/17/2010 4:14:35 PM | message detail |
Um.. both have tourney scenes. True, but unlike Brawl, Melee has been played in huge (and I mean huge) gaming leagues and competitions (like EVO). Brawl has yet to receive a tourney scene as big as melee's, even though it is almost 3 years old. I believe melee started to really be played competitively in about 2003, and before then it was played often by gamecube owners. Brawl however, has been for the most part forgotten in the past two years, and if nobody plays a game, then that game isn't getting a competitive tourney scene any time soon. --- Official member of the Nintendo Defense Force http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 4:15:55 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #415 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3962 And opinion polls are based on the system and all its games. Just because the 360 and PS3 are doing better on average in terms of game quality doesn't mean that Brawl hasn't been played by all the wii owners >_> --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 4:16:32 PM | message detail |
We are unsure if Smash's popularity is largely casual based or tourney based, but I guess would casual personally. --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 4:18:33 PM | message detail |
From: whatisurnameplz | #421 Super Street Fighter 4 and Marvel vs Capcom 2 to make deep runs, guys. Watch out! --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ 11/15/2009 - Never forget 4th and 2. |
KinzoUshiromiya | Posted 10/17/2010 4:19:42 PM | message detail |
Dammit Ulti you just murdered my bracket --- Regaro_Ukiera, ridin' out the 30 day purg |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:20:08 PM | message detail |
And
opinion polls are based on the system and all its games. Just because
the 360 and PS3 are doing better on average in terms of game quality
doesn't mean that Brawl hasn't been played by all the wii owners
>_> And? He made a legitimate point that the site is down on the Wii right now. You laughed at what is basically fact and tried to insult people. Yes, Brawl has been played by lots of people, and it's a popular game- we know that. And PS2 would rock 360 or PS3 in a consoles contest, by the way. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 4:21:11 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #426 We're not talking about consoles here though. We are talking about individual games. I am saying your arguments are crap because they are using completely irrelevant statistics. --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 4:22:03 PM | message detail |
You're attacking red sox when someone just said Melee will win based on an EVO tournament. --- ------ --------- |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:22:34 PM | message detail |
Well
I have to say that in this site indeed people like nostalgia.I mean the
strongest games are FF 7 and OOT which came out around 13 years ago.So
many games have come out but nope these 2.Now for Melee/Brawl Melee is
the slight favorite to win.Because nostalgia and when Melee came out it
is when the series really became awesome.As for MGS3/MGS4 it is tough
because most people have 3 win but I don't know.I mean everyone says
that MGS 4 is one of 2 best games on PS3(the other is Uncharted 2).I
have 3 winning but 4 can win just as easily. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:23:45 PM | message detail |
If the Wii has gone down in popularity, that reflects poorly on its strongest game, yes. It's not conclusive of course. But you know what? Look at the Jan 2008 GOTD poll and compare with the Jan 2010 GOTD poll. The Wii games perform far worse in the 2010 version, despite adding Brawl to their number. That's right, TP + SMG + Brawl do way worse than TP + SMG alone in the 2008 poll. The Wii took a big fall between those 2 polls, and its games weren't immune to it. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 4:26:04 PM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #428 i started attacking red sox first tbqh --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 4:28:13 PM | message detail |
Hm..
the "How old are you polls?" look really interesting throughout the
years. If we truly do have the same demographic as we did from 2004,
yeah, I'd favor Melee. --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 4:31:15 PM | message detail |
Same people* not demographics. --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:35:32 PM | message detail |
So in 6 years no new people came to the site?That is impossible. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 4:38:41 PM | message detail |
Not saying new people didn't come, but what if GameFAQs users (the majority that have voted) simply grew up and never left? --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 4:39:34 PM | message detail |
From: MarioSuperstar | #435 not everybody is you, you know --- ~Acting on Impulse~ |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:41:50 PM | message detail |
The
age polls show that the site is getting steadily older. But the median
age has gone up by less than 1 year per year, so we are getting new
younger users. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/17/2010 4:42:08 PM | message detail |
From: MarioSuperstar | #423 Brawl got more votes in it's 4-way matches than exist people that play competitive Smash. Smash is a very much casual game, and I'd be surprised if competitive players make up even 5% of the voters on this site. Brawl is going to destroy Melee. This is Mario/Samus all over again. --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:44:30 PM | message detail |
Brawl is going to destroy Melee. This is Mario/Samus all over again. I was just thinking the same thing. Mario/Melee win the core fanbase big. Samus/Brawl have slightly more support outside the Nintendo/core fanbases. But resorting to Mario/Samus comparisons is frowned upon in this topic, so I didn't want to be the first to say it. A question: which fanbase is larger, in the US, say: the Chrono Trigger fanbase or the competitive Smash fanbase? --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 4:46:58 PM | message detail |
Also,
this is unrelated, but, do provisional accounts (level 10) become level
15 accounts after 48 hours, even without any posts and therefore karma?
I just created an alt for the first time in 7 years, so I wasn't sure. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 4:51:41 PM | message detail |
I'm
just saying. I can look at the 2003 age poll and go 7 years in the
future and see the age group after adding 7 to the 13-17 year old
people now become the "majority" of GameFAQs users. Whether that's
because of new old users or veteran users, I don't know, but I'm
willing to put my money on veterans. --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
WhiteLens | Posted 10/17/2010 4:53:03 PM | message detail |
I don't think you get karma from posts, you just get it from logging on. I think that just means that you need to gain 2 karma points to rank up. --- No need for words, Just cast Luminaire and be done with it. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 5:05:21 PM | message detail |
Also,
about the thing people bring up when they say Wii is getting weaker and
weaker through system polls and Game of the Decade polls, what if the
other systems are just getting more popular? --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 5:12:03 PM | message detail |
Well,
do you think FFX has been getting more popular? The Nintendo games (MP,
WW, TP, SMG) put up 63% on the Square games (FFX) in the 2008 poll. In
the 2010 poll, this fell to 53% with the addition of Brawl on the
Nintendo side and of Chrono Cross on the Square side. Note that the
total for the Gamecube games actually went up- the loss came entirely
out of TP and SMG. --- Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast. |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 5:19:01 PM | message detail |
Hmm.. interesting. I see. --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
whatisurnameplz | Posted 10/17/2010 5:45:38 PM | message detail |
Oh
and the only reason why I mentioned Melee's tourney scene was because
it showed that smash fans care more about melee than brawl. It probably doesn't matter too much anyways, because nostalgia will win the day here. --- Official member of the Nintendo Defense Force http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/17/2010 6:12:44 PM | message detail |
Melee
is a bigger game than Brawl. It might not have as many characters or
stages, but I'm talking about the impact it had, the level it reached .
Brawl has never, and will never, get even slightly as big as Melee was.
It's an insignificance speck of nothing compared to the legacy Melee
created. The community didn't start off as big for Melee but it just
kept growing and growing until it was massive. The Brawl community
started off massive, thanks to Melee, but just kept shrinking and
shrinking. It's still rapidly shrinking as I'm typing this. --- "Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/17/2010 6:13:30 PM | message detail |
Hmm,
very good vote totals on today's poll. Not counting the 40 hour poll
from a few days ago, this will be the first 24 hour poll to break 80000
votes since Poll 3993. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/17/2010 6:18:47 PM | message detail |
And
why do people keep talking about the competitive smash community like
its small or something? Within that community Melee is the overwhelming
favorite, and that leaks down to the casual community to a certain
degree too. A lot of people hate Brawl because they think it's cool to
hate Brawl, not because they were once a Melee pro or something. It was
never cool to hate Melee, at least nowhere near the degree that it is
to hate Brawl right now. Trust me, Brawl will even get anti-voted
within the casual community, and that can't be a good sign. --- "Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/17/2010 6:31:50 PM | message detail |
From: AppreciateTrees | #449 The only people I've ever seen hate on Brawl, or prefer Melee, are on Board 8 or play tourney Smash. I've got 5 real-life friends making brackets, and they all picked Brawl, and were dumbfounded that Melee was the favourite here. --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
