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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 2:26:52 PM | message detail
I'd be really surprised if Brawl won.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/17/2010 2:27:56 PM | message detail
I'd be really surprised if Brawl lost.
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/17/2010 2:29:01 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised either way
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 2:30:45 PM | message detail
I hope the winner is either Fallout 3,Resident Evil 4 or FFX and out of these 3 I prefer RE 4.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/17/2010 2:35:08 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4066&region=EUR

All of those night matches for Brawl (since it has a #1 seed) is gonna be rough. It does horrible in Europe.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/17/2010 2:38:46 PM | message detail
Er, for Melee I mean.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 2:56:11 PM | message detail

From: NoDicePwn | #356
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4066&region=EUR

All of those night matches for Brawl (since it has a #1 seed) is gonna be rough. It does horrible in Europe.


Well yeah, but both Smash games do bad in Europe <_<
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 2:58:17 PM | message detail
Yeah here you go: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728&region=EUR
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 2:59:40 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #352
I'd be really surprised if Brawl lost.


How?
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Big Bob | Posted 10/17/2010 3:01:54 PM | message detail
Calling it now: Resident Evil 4 scores the only 90% of the contest against Jet Grind Radio.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 3:04:06 PM | message detail
RE4 deserves to win the entire effin contest.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 3:06:07 PM | message detail
Submitted this, and I hope Allen uses it:

Which number two seed do you think has the best shot at being Game of the Decade?

Halo: Combat Evolved
Half-Life 2
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Kingdom Hearts
Final Fantasy IX
Mass Effect
Shadow of the Colossus
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

There are some great 2 seeds in the bracket, so this might be a poll worth running.



The site always asks about 1 seeds, but never any others.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/17/2010 3:06:59 PM | message detail
There are some great 2 seeds in the bracket, so this might be a poll worth running.

I totally agree. I'm really hoping we see this poll, especially since theres less SFF involved then this poll, and we may get a good reading on where some of these games are, since theres not a lot of data on them.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 3:10:24 PM | message detail
I also want to see SotC get destroyed tbqh
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/17/2010 3:10:43 PM | message detail
I tried to submit that poll idea earlier when I was suggesting the idea late last night, but Firefox froze and I stopped trying to send it.

Hope it's accepted and done!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 3:11:01 PM | message detail
**** yeah the Conan dancing gif
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Big Bob | Posted 10/17/2010 3:11:03 PM | message detail
Brawl > KH > HL2 > Oblivion > FFIX > SotC > Halo > Mass Effect
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Big Bob | Posted 10/17/2010 3:11:39 PM | message detail
SotC is bringing down MGS2, just watch!
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 3:12:07 PM | message detail
I truly do wonder which game the site will choose myself; however, for some reason, the only people I can see choosing Melee are people who prefer its tourney play. I can't think for much of a reason on why anybody else would choose Melee over Brawl.. at least outside of that reason alone. Would it be the characters that didn't make it?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 3:12:17 PM | message detail
Allen doesn't check feedbacks (or work) on weekends, and typically waits until Wednesday. Hopefully he's in the stats topic lurking like usual and sees it being a good idea.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/17/2010 3:12:45 PM | message detail
Really though, if that poll's ran, the main thing I care about is how SSBB does against KH/FF9 and try to see how it compares to what SSBM got on FFX/KH last year. Glimpses of HL2/ME/Oblivion will be nice, too, but I feel well enough about their routes.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 3:13:25 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #370
I truly do wonder which game the site will choose myself; however, for some reason, the only people I can see choosing Melee are people who prefer its tourney play. I can't think for much of a reason on why anybody else would choose Melee over Brawl.. at least outside of that reason alone. Would it be the characters that didn't make it?


Even Brawl fans hack the game to give it Melee's mechanics. The people who prefer Brawl are rapidly dwindling in number and people are quickly treating the Wii like a big joke. I would be shocked if Brawl won this contest.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 3:13:33 PM | message detail
You know, I honestly am not feeling great about Half-Life 2's strength. I mean, it doesn't have a very tough path to tread up to Prime, but what if Metroid Prime's lack of strength is matched by HL2's?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2797
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3465
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2621
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2249

I know some of these polls are old, but uh, Half-Life doesn't seem too strong on GFAQs. I think you guys are probably overcompensating a little for it managing to keep a half-decent chase against TP, RE4, and KH2.
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transcience | Posted 10/17/2010 3:15:35 PM | message detail
only one Nintendo game? two Square, two WRPG. two shooters? Brawl would decimate that poll and convince people it would murder everything.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 3:20:12 PM | message detail
HL2 isn't strong, but neither is Prime. I mean are you SEEING the poll today? Christ Prime is bad in these.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 3:22:10 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #376
HL2 isn't strong, but neither is Prime. I mean are you SEEING the poll today? Christ Prime is bad in these.


It's almost like you're using this poll as some sort of indicator or something. Weird.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 3:23:07 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 10/17/2010 6:13:25 PM | #373
Even Brawl fans hack the game to give it Melee's mechanics.


Wouldn't the ability to edit and hack Brawl be in its favor?
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 3:28:04 PM | message detail
Melee gets half the votes from people who don't really care about competitive play, and 80%+ of the votes from those who do. And by competitive, I mean that they enjoy a game of skill, not that they actually need to compete in tourneys or anything.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 3:28:39 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #379
Melee gets half the votes from people who don't really care about competitive play, and 80%+ of the votes from those who do. And by competitive, I mean that they enjoy a game of skill, not that they actually need to compete in tourneys or anything.


man it's almost like those numbers weren't spat straight out of your ass
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/17/2010 3:28:46 PM | message detail
I imagine the number of people who hack SSBB isn't much bigger than the number of people still playing SSBM for tournies...and I'd bet on most of those hackers being tourney-players.

That doesn't seem like a very valid point unless you can toss my assumptions for some facts.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 3:30:33 PM | message detail
Nothing arbitrary about half. It's what you'd think would be the case if Melee and Brawl were equally strong, and past results point to them being about equal. 80%? Who knows how much it is, but it's going to be way above 50%, and if it's close in the other group, Melee wins.

And I wouldn't be surprised if either game wins.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 3:32:34 PM | message detail
But red sox, the casuals are the ones who don't care about gameplay. The casuals are the ones who like having more characters, more features, etc.

Basically your 50-50 split requires a lot of your casuals to be semi-hardcore which should be represented in your other stat, thus pushing the casuals for Brawl well over Melee.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 3:33:23 PM | message detail
I've never seen any indication that casuals actually like Brawl more than Melee. Most casuals seem to like both games around the same.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 3:33:25 PM | message detail
or rather gameplay mechanics since the base gameplay is similar
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 3:34:26 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #384
I've never seen any indication that casuals actually like Brawl more than Melee. Most casuals seem to like both games around the same.


Are you talking about "random not-very-gamers" when you say casuals or "people who play both but aren't competitive but frequent internet forums of some kind about gaming".
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quicksilvver | Posted 10/17/2010 3:35:11 PM | message detail
I hope that Poll for #2 Seeds actually gets run, it seems like much more interesting and useful information that todays poll -_-
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 3:36:17 PM | message detail
And it's not like more features and characters really matters- TP is newer and shinier than OOT too, but it would get crushed. FFX's graphics put FFVII to shame, but it did get crushed. People expect a sequel to have more stuff, and it's not sufficient to make them prefer the sequel.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/17/2010 3:37:13 PM | message detail
I've never seen any indication that casuals actually like Brawl more than Melee. Most casuals seem to like both games around the same.

Most reviews for Brawl are higher than Melee. That would be the casual base, wouldn't it?
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 3:37:28 PM | message detail
Are you talking about "random not-very-gamers" when you say casuals or "people who play both but aren't competitive but frequent internet forums of some kind about gaming".

Both, actually. I've never observed any real preference for Brawl over Melee among either group. The second matters a lot more as far as contests go though, as they provide a lot more of our votes.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 3:38:18 PM | message detail
Most reviews for Brawl are higher than Melee. That would be the casual base, wouldn't it?

Game reviewers are not casual, and make up a very very small percentage of votes.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/17/2010 3:39:53 PM | message detail
Casuals absolutely prefer Brawl to Melee, I can assure you.

It's worth noting that even with every tourney player preferring Melee, it's a dead game.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 3:40:01 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #388
And it's not like more features and characters really matters- TP is newer and shinier than OOT too, but it would get crushed. FFX's graphics put FFVII to shame, but it did get crushed. People expect a sequel to have more stuff, and it's not sufficient to make them prefer the sequel.


but you are arguing with games that are completely different. TP and OoT have different gameplay and stories, FFX and FFVII have different stories and stat systems (materia vs. sphere grid). Melee and Brawl are both completely different. Who gives a damn about story in Smash Bros. The core of Smash Bros is the gameplay and the features surrounding the gameplay.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/17/2010 3:41:09 PM | message detail
From a purely casual standpoint, Brawl beats it in every way.... More characters, more music, more stages, more single player content, etc. I'm what you'd call a casual, and I never noticed any of the balancing issues and all that people always gush over Melee for, and I vastly prefer Brawl.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 3:46:45 PM | message detail
but you are arguing with games that are completely different. TP and OoT have different gameplay and stories, FFX and FFVII have different stories and stat systems (materia vs. sphere grid). Melee and Brawl are both completely different. Who gives a damn about story in Smash Bros. The core of Smash Bros is the gameplay and the features surrounding the gameplay.

I didn't say anything about story.......and I don't think that's why OOT and FFVII are so much stronger than TP and FFX either. The question is: do Brawl's extra features actually make the game better? Actually, it's 7 years newer so most people expect something more than slightly better too to be satisfied.

If casuals prefer Brawl, I doubt they'd go for it with any more than 55%. Melee will put up massive margins among anyone who enjoys the game as a fighter. Remember that you can't just compare the total size of those groups- people who like Smash more are way more likely to vote.

Brawl could easily win- but the idea that Brawl will win massive support among casuals because it has slightly more in features and characters- no. Pretty much all sequels have at least viscerally more in features- it doesn't make them better games, and it doesn't make them more popular games, unless the features actually improve the game significantly.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/17/2010 3:51:00 PM | message detail
The majority of this sequel/original matches make me head hurt.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/17/2010 3:51:56 PM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #396
The majority of this sequel/original matches make me head hurt.


Kingdom Hearts and MGS matches are the worst imo.
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Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/17/2010 3:54:14 PM | message detail
Hoping the Brawl/Melee match pic is a showdown between those games' exclusive characters. Sonic and Snake Vs Pichu and Roy, bring the pain.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/17/2010 3:56:38 PM | message detail
Hoping the Brawl/Melee match pic is a showdown between those games' exclusive characters. Sonic and Snake Vs Pichu and Roy, bring the pain.

I can roll with this
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/17/2010 3:57:24 PM | message detail
I'd prefer Fox and Marth vs. Meta-Knight and Snake.
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