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I guess that would be pretty definitive proof. Thanks.

Plus, there's also a direct comparison with MGS4.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3505
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3507
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Huh, RE4 dropped off quite a bit between those polls. I guess the 2nd one had 3 extra games, but CC probably didn't add much strength to the poll and Nintendo looked a lot weaker, so the poll probably wasn't really much stronger than before. FFX, notably, barely budged despite adding CC, Brawl, and MW2.

I'm not sure what that means, or which poll is closer to our Games Contest results.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

RE4 probably has a decent bit of Nintendo overlap (or so I would think. Never seemed like Twilight Princess bothered it), so that would probably affect it a bit.
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What does everyone think of Fallout 3 vs Half-Life 2?
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Dr_Football punted me out of the Guru throne.
4th place in Summer Contest 2k4

Fallout 3 is the massive favourite, mostly because of New Vagas coming out two days before the contest starts.
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also from being a better game

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From: AppIekidjosh | #307
also from being a better game

I lol'd
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From: LeonhartFour | #302
Plus, there's also a direct comparison with MGS4.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3505
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3507

I've forgotten just how ****ing strong OoT is, getting over 40% over three of this bracket's biggest games.
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Wylvane
Grand Kirby is a horrible user.

Chrono Cross was the year of 2000?

Aw yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about!
Only Majora's Mask coulda topped that!

CC > DQ8 LOCK

The winner of Brawl/Melee (aka Brawl) is essentially the winner of the contest, barring something weird and out of left field.

Why do you think Brawl?

And can someone answer me this, why was Brawl more impressive last contest than Melee? I've heard that quiet a bit..
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"Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen

Because it did what Melee did but better and it was new then.
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So the general consensus is that MGS 3 has a higher change to beat MGS 4 and Melee has a higher change to beat Brawl?
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From: KrahenProphet | #305
What does everyone think of Fallout 3 vs Half-Life 2?

...Batman? (I think I might even have MP).
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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Guru winnah Explicit Content, that's quis.

Last contest was really inconclusive as far as Melee vs. Brawl goes thanks to SFF.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

Yeah, the only thing we can really say is that Brawl handled LFF against OoT a lot better than Melee did, for whatever the reason.
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I think SSBB looks like the indirect favorite against SSBM as long as you don't think MGS4 was hurt as bad by FO3/CoD4 against SSBB as FFX was hurt by KH/Diablo 2 against SSBM. MGS2 shows us KH made a difference of 4.65% against FFX, and Diablo 2 probably didn't do any favors either. A multiplayer-heavy FPS by Activision and a WRPG by Bethesda probably aren't going to overlap with Konami's stealth-series any more than that, and I consider SSBB standing out in one of its two pics over-rated as well. Both SSB-games were the only Nintendo-titles in those two polls, too. Besides, was there a more impressive performance in BGE2 from any game in this decade than what SSBB did against MGS4/FO3/CoD4?

SSBB also performed significantly better against LoZ:OoT than SSBM, as already mentioned; SSBM got 26.25% while SSBB got 29.98%. That comparison says SSBM gets 43.78% on SSBB, though trusting LoZ:OoT to give a legit comparison here is dangerous and we don't know what RBY did to SSBM's value. Still, pretty big gap.

These don't guarantee a SSBB-win, especially with the Wii-attitude lately...but it's quite a case against SSBM.
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Err wait.. Between these two polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3507
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504

How does Melee not look stronger??
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"Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen

From: AppreciateTrees | #318
Err wait.. Between these two polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3507
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504

How does Melee not look stronger??

Do you understand how to do basic math?
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If char =/= game then it'd be safe to assume

console =/= game

Everyone hates their Wii because they only love one or two games on it.

They still love those games.

Err wait.. Between these two polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3507
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504

How does Melee not look stronger??

Do you understand how to do basic math?

Yeah I get that Melee finished a few percentage points behind Brawl, you smart ass :p, but that's not what I meant. They both had OoT and X but Brawl got MG4 and Melee got Pokemon R/B/Y. With that in mind, how wasn't Melee more impressive?
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"Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen

Because R/B/Y isn't doing much LFFing there, most likely. Not to Melee, at least. If it's getting driven down by R/B/Y, that's not a good sign for it.
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From: AppreciateTrees | #318
Err wait.. Between these two polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3507
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504

How does Melee not look stronger??

If anything, those polls favor Brawl, since it did better against FFX and OoT. Of course, RBY is more likely a tougher opponent than MGS4 and could have LFF'd Melee, so it's really a moot point to begin with.

And if consoles = games, then Mario Kart DS will be upsetting Brawl in Round 1. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4041
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Wylvane
CommodoreTN is a horrible user.

For the record:

Melee vs FFX: 37.81%
Brawl vs FFX: 44.74%.

And Leonhart makes a good point that if Melee can't stand up to Nintendo LFF that well, then what's it going to do against Brawl?

Melee better hope it can pull off some rSFF if these polls indicate anything (which they kinda don't).
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Wylvane
Not_Wylvane is a horrible user.

Umm.. it's R/B/Y.. Are you kidding me =/ It's not like its getting dragged down by AC or something.

I'm having a really hard time believing that if you replaced R/B/Y with MG4, that Brawl wouldn't be negatively impacted. And lets not forget, Melee has already beaten X heads up..Meh Melee > Brawl either way in my opinion.
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"Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen

With that in mind, how wasn't Melee more impressive?

It's just unclear, those polls are. I'm taking Melee too but you really can't conclude Melee > Brawl or Brawl > Melee based on those polls alone.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

From: AppreciateTrees | #325
Umm.. it's R/B/Y.. Are you kidding me =/

R/B/Y hasn't shown signs of really affecting or being affected greatly by LFF.

Besides, like Wylvane said, it's still a 7% difference and if R/B/Y's affecting it that much, that's not good.
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R/B/Y hasn't shown signs of really affecting or being affected greatly by LFF.

Besides, like Wylvane said, it's still a 7% difference and if R/B/Y's affecting it that much, that's not good.

RBY has definitely been impacted by LFF and impacted other games with LFF, and it's pretty substantial too, helped along by RBY actually getting enough votes against OOT to weigh heavily on the match, something most Nintendo games have tremendous difficulty managing. 7% is pretty big for stuff that isn't extremely closely connected, but there's 2 LFF relationships here: RBY/Melee and MGS4/FFX.

Also, I think the big issue with Melee here is Triple SFF, moreso than LFF. It lost 59-41 or something to RBY, which indicates major SFF on top of the LFF.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

I feel similarly about Brawl/Melee as I do MGS4/MGS3... there's a lot of intangibles in favour of the older game, but there's probably just too much of a strength gap for them to matter. Interesting, though, that in both cases the older game is the 1-seed.

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You're pretty good, Dr_Football.

Brawl definitely looked stronger than Melee last year.

not sure if that means anything, but there it is.
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xyzzy

This contest starts in 5 days, doesn't it? A short bracketmaking period is terrific- although I've still got to go back and edit my bracket this weekend.

Anyway, Melee has all night matches and Brawl all day matches until they meet, so Brawl's probably going to look way better beforehand. Like.....56/44 better, assuming an even match, if we didn't know better.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

Well, Melee and Brawl get two games they can squash in the first two rounds. Melee faces CoD4 in round three though, which could give us some good data since it faced Brawl twice last year.
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I think the people taking Melee over Brawl have blinders on. Aside from competitive Smash players (and wannabes like Ulti), everyone I know prefers Brawl hands down. It's got more and better characters, and half of them don't feel like pallette swaps like Melee did. Besides, Melee felt too floaty IMO.
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Oh man, why couldn't have there just been a, "what's your favorite SBB game" poll.
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"Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen

Besides, Melee felt too floaty IMO.

Melee felt floaty? Compared to Brawl?

Also, everyone I know in real life who has an opinion on this over the age of 10 prefers Melee. Although that's no more useful than BT's anecdote, I suppose.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

SSB*
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"Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen

I'm 30 and prefer Brawl! what's up red sox
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From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #333
Besides, Melee felt too floaty IMO.

LOL BT
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I actually think there's a good chance this could end up being a 60-40 match one way or the other. Something may win the SFF big.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

yeah I doubt this match is close. KH could be the same way though I expect that one to end up closer.
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xyzzy

Plus Kirby sucks in Melee, and I main Kirby/Squirtle/Diddy, all of which can't be played in Melee.
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Plus Kirby sucks in Melee, and I main Kirby/Squirtle/Diddy, all of which can't be played in Melee.

My Marth would Smaasssh your Kirby. I can't stand Diddy though.
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"Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen

I have friends who prefer Brawl (including me). And I'm one of those "serious" players. The Melee fans just happen to be louder.
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I have friends who prefer Brawl (including me). And I'm one of those "serious" players

What do you mean by serious?
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"Of course I'm going to rig the contest in my favor." - SBAllen

I don't want to sound cocky, but I really feel that the only way Brawl would lose is if the voters go early 2000s Pokemon on it.
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What does early 2000s Pokemon mean?
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

From: red sox 777 | #346
What does early 2000s Pokemon mean?

Where fans prefer the older game in the series despite the newer game being technically better!
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That can't be it. Melee is technically better.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.

Brawl has Snake and disjointed hitboxes.

I think we know who the winner really is.
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"Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?"
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The winner is the Anti-FFVII fanbase, which through Snake's help was able to deny Cloud 2 consecutive 2nd place finishes.
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Crono > Sephiroth. 7 years of waiting, and perhaps many more to go. Remain steadfast.