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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/13/2010 11:24:12 AM | message detail
FFX got 53.4% on RBY w/ OoT w/ Melee.
MGS w/ FFVIII got 48% on RBY w/ OoT.

Taking RBY w/ OoT w/ Melee to equal RBY w/ OoT, FFX gets 55.3% on MGS. FFX got 52.4% on MGS4. Comes down to how much Melee hurt RBY and/or how much FFVIII hurt MGS, assuming all my maths is correct.

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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/13/2010 11:26:56 AM | message detail
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/13/2010 11:27:17 AM | message detail
The only issues I have left are MGS3v4 and Portal/FF12 vs Mass Effect. Mass Effect could be the one game ever where a new release boosts the original by a ton, since you're basically required to play 1 to fully understand 2. I'd bet over 90% of ME2 fans played or rented (or whatever) the first game to get the full story.

MGS3 v 4 is a total crapshoot. 3 got weaker as last contest went along, 4 got stronger. Fan preference will decide that match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2010 11:27:26 AM | message detail
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/13/2010 11:27:47 AM | message detail
Or you can take a reading off FFX w/ MGS4 v. OoT w/ Brawl and MGS w/ FFVIII v. OoT w/ RBY, like charmander did, and get a totally different result! >.>

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2010 11:28:29 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #253
3 got weaker as last contest went along


*arches eyebrow*

Seemed pretty consistent to me, considering it had Oblivion 3 times. The difference in that last match was MGS3/RE4 doing some weird LFF business.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/13/2010 11:28:52 AM | message detail
I'd bet over 90% of ME2 fans played or rented (or whatever) the first game to get the full story.

I did, but the original Mass Effect isn't anywhere near as good as 2, so I won't be voting for it!

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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/13/2010 11:31:51 AM | message detail
Mass Effect will probably have boosted a lot, but I think going from where it was in 09 to beating the stronger of Portal/FFXII will be a bridge too far.

I expect that even though many factors will be in MGS3's favour, MGS4 will just be too much stronger for them to matter.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2010 11:32:39 AM | message detail
Yeah, ME1's got a lot of ground to make up, ME2's popularity notwithstanding.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/13/2010 11:33:29 AM | message detail
Mass Effect will look significantly better than last contest. I fully expected Fallout 3 SFF'd it hard... they're both major WRPGs from this gen. Getting Fallout 3 out of there would do nothing but help it. I am a big fan of both, but would vote for Fallout 3 every day over it for instance.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/13/2010 11:33:40 AM | message detail
Or you can use the other FFX match that included a MGS-title and only two Nintendo titles.

MGS got 35.11% on OoT with RBY and FFVIII
FFX got 34.59% on OoT with SSBB and MGS4

Now it becomes which Nintendo title hurt OoT more and which MGS/FF title hurt FFX/MGS more.

MGS does have some breathing room to work with too.

For MGS4 I've heard people say it could be stronger or weaker this year, so the question also comes down to does the increase of PS3 owners give it a boost or do more good games on the system make it less impressive/how much did it being a recent release in 2009 affect people's opinions.
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draarrowgant | Posted 10/13/2010 11:33:51 AM | message detail
Hey guys- how does the entry into the Guru contest work? Hate to sound like a noob, but even though I have done 5 contest now, I never tried playing the Guru contest... I did the sign-up sheet already. Does the Guru contest pull our picks directly from GF or is there some way of us uploading our picks for that contest?


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TheArkOfTurus | Posted 10/13/2010 11:36:25 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #253
I'd bet over 90% of ME2 fans played or rented (or whatever) the first game to get the full story.


http://pc.ign.com/articles/111/1118657p1.html

"Roughly 50% of the players imported a save from Mass Effect."

The number of people who played ME1 could be higher, but I'd imagine it isn't close to 90%.
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Articuno2001 | Posted 10/13/2010 11:39:09 AM | message detail

From: draarrowgant | #262
Hey guys- how does the entry into the Guru contest work? Hate to sound like a noob, but even though I have done 5 contest now, I never tried playing the Guru contest... I did the sign-up sheet already. Does the Guru contest pull our picks directly from GF or is there some way of us uploading our picks for that contest?


There will be a topic sometime before the actual contest where you will post your bracket for the guru contest.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/13/2010 11:39:44 AM | message detail
I expect a decent boost from Mass Effect, but I would hesitate to take ME2 over Portal/FFXII
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/13/2010 12:27:00 PM | message detail
Yeah, I mentioned last topic that Mass Effect has every reason to boost significantly. Just look at how Shephard performed last contest on the heels of ME2. Sure Pikachu was probably inflated somewhat, but I was impressed enough that I've been considering taking ME for the upset over FF12.
LOLContests | Posted 10/13/2010 12:29:10 PM | message detail
I would be shocked if Portal beat FFXII. This is still GameFAQS, and I think the Final Fantasy pedigree should be enough to carry it through.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/13/2010 2:31:04 PM | message detail
Brawl really looked better last time, and I think Brawl will get some votes from Metal Gear and Sonic fans. They're probably very equal in contest strengh, though one might actually SFF the other to the ground. Older games might do better, they useally do, but I went with Brawl in the end anyways.

People keep saying Brawl looked stronger last time, but I don't see it. Someone explain how Brawl looked stronger last time.
HaRRicH | Posted 10/13/2010 2:33:58 PM | message detail
I'll ask again: how far behind HL2 is Portal, really? Portal was the star of the Orange Box, which Gordon needed before he finally became respectable here. Portal beat Bioshock and Halo 3, neither of which are jokes. Portal got 36.55%/36.87% on MGS4 while HL2 got 39.8%/39.06% on LoZ:TP. That means Portal get 45.92% to 47.2% on HL2 as of last year...and that's without considering the millions of Portal-copies given away this year, Steam making the move to Macs, and any rising hype for Portal 2. Portal's getting closer to HL2, count on that.

FF12 got 47.78% on HL2 though, so that's scary. That said, Portal seemed to take a bigger drop in the day than FF12 did, so -- since it's a night-match -- Portal may hold up better than FF (weird to think about). Couple that with Portal's reasons to boost and FF12 no longer being the latest in its series...I'll take it.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 10/13/2010 2:39:55 PM | message detail
I dont' know if it has to do with anything but the guys on Screwattack made a list with the 10 best local multiplayer consoles games only,and in number 3 they said that Melee is better than Brawl.Just saying.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/13/2010 2:43:24 PM | message detail
I dont' know if it has to do with anything but the guys on Screwattack made a list with the 10 best local multiplayer consoles games only,and in number 3 they said that Melee is better than Brawl.Just saying.

Any decent critics would..
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/13/2010 2:45:22 PM | message detail
Honestly, I think Portal is the strongest Valve game now. Its got more than twice as many owners now than last contest due to the free give away from Valve, and it was already really close to HL2 at that point.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2010 2:47:12 PM | message detail
I'm not sure what to think of Portal. Out of all the games from the last contest, it's got the most reason to boost (Yes, more than ME1, I'm still skeptical about what kind of boost it's going to get from the sequel).
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 10/13/2010 2:50:41 PM | message detail
I'm currently taking Portal to the division finals, though I may go for Mass Effect > Portal later on. Not sure yet.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2010 3:07:09 PM | message detail
Honestly, I think Portal is the strongest Valve game now. Its got more than twice as many owners now than last contest due to the free give away from Valve, and it was already really close to HL2 at that point.

I dunno about that. For both to be close, TP would have to = MGS4. It may have beaten TP in that one match, but it does have room for an LFF argument because of how much MGS4 got owned by Brawl before hand.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/13/2010 3:23:08 PM | message detail
Don't forget that Commander Shepard got 38% with Mass Effect 2 just coming out, it's like what Halo 3 did for Master Chief. Run that poll again and Pikachu probably performs a lot better.

I dunno about that. For both to be close, TP would have to = MGS4. It may have beaten TP in that one match, but it does have room for an LFF argument because of how much MGS4 got owned by Brawl before hand.

TP got 47% on Brawl last contest and while MGS4 performed pretty badly against SSBB you kind of have to take a step back and see that Brawl stuck out like a sore thumb in that whole division, minus SMG. MGS4 did perform pretty decently against FFX in the semi-finals. I would take TP, but it would be a close match IMO.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2010 3:42:40 PM | message detail
while MGS4 performed pretty badly against SSBB you kind of have to take a step back and see that Brawl stuck out like a sore thumb in that whole division, minus SMG.

Eh, it got a similar percentage on Fallout 3 in two f the matches.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/13/2010 3:47:35 PM | message detail
MGS4 did worse against Fallout 3, COD4 did worst against Brawl, Fallout 3 did worse against Brawl.
It also helps to remember the pic for this match:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=65

Brawl was definitely benefiting quite a bit there.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2010 4:08:31 PM | message detail
You could say CoD4 does worse because Galaxy left the picture.

Fallout 3 only faced Brawl once so there's no comparison to "worse".

MGS4 does a percent and some change worse. Not really all that bad.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2010 4:09:09 PM | message detail
Oh, about the Fallout 3 thing.. you may be comparing it to the GOTY polls, right?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/13/2010 5:38:18 PM | message detail
Man, today's poll has sucky vote totals. I know the "Have you entered the __________ contest yet?" polls have historically had bad vote totals, because not a single one has gotten above 70000 votes. Still, I don't think the vote totals in this poll could be significantly hurt by the fact that this poll started one hour late (due to poll problems).

It took 6 hours for this poll to break 10000 votes. Another amusing thing is that today's 23 hour poll will finish with lower vote totals than yesterday's 9 hour poll.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/13/2010 5:42:35 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #275
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=65


What a great picture. Three dull-color scheme, over the shoulder gun-wielding tough guys, and WHEE BRIGHT NINTENDO LOOK ITS MARIO AND LINK EVERYBODY.

Akin to the "ToS vs Mature Western games" picture
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/13/2010 6:41:40 PM | message detail
There was another picture to that match, you know:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=64

Looks more even here.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2010 6:43:58 PM | message detail
I don't really see a huge difference.

A picture being lighter makes me vote a choice over 3 others more? Ehhh, does that really account for a huge percentage these days?
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/13/2010 6:48:41 PM | message detail
I think it's over-rated too, though SSBB does stand out more. Either way, it whipped three asses that match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2010 6:49:47 PM | message detail
That's what Brawl does, folks.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/13/2010 6:51:10 PM | message detail
I don't think it's the picture as much as all the other games being more similar to each other than Brawl.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/13/2010 6:57:08 PM | message detail
Also remember that new Square characters seemed to degrade last contest, giving an argument for FFXII declining. Then if Portal really has so much reason to increase...

I ended up changing my bracket pick to Portal > FFXII just because it should happen.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/13/2010 6:57:23 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #278
MGS4 did worse against Fallout 3, COD4 did worst against Brawl, Fallout 3 did worse against Brawl.
It also helps to remember the pic for this match:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=65

Brawl was definitely benefiting quite a bit there.


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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2010 7:02:46 PM | message detail
The MGS4 logo always looks like that.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/13/2010 7:10:20 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #290
The MGS4 logo always looks like that.


I know it's just funny.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/13/2010 7:38:30 PM | message detail
Also, Valve officially announced Dota 2 coming out in March, featuring all the heroes from the Warcraft 3 DotA.

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WhiteLens | Posted 10/13/2010 7:41:41 PM | message detail
I have to ask, is there really anything to prevent this from happening again?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1656

Or are people just picking FFX as the winner as a safe-pick because they don't know which SSB will make it through?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/13/2010 7:43:40 PM | message detail
Or are people just picking FFX as the winner as a safe-pick because they don't know which SSB will make it through?

People are picking FFX because they're fans of that game and that's it. There's no logical reason to pick that game against either SSB game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2010 7:43:46 PM | message detail
It's been six years since that match happened, and SSBM won by 1500 votes. That result is pretty inconsequential overall.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2010 7:44:09 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #294
Or are people just picking FFX as the winner as a safe-pick because they don't know which SSB will make it through?

People are picking FFX because they're fans of that game and that's it. There's no logical reason to pick that game against either SSB game.


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KrahenProphet | Posted 10/13/2010 8:52:38 PM | message detail
Hmm, now I know it's Valkyria Chronicles > Disgaea.

The VC theme "Final Confrontation" just came on rainwave.cc (a vg radio) while I was trying to decide between the two. It's quite a valiant song.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/13/2010 9:04:06 PM | message detail
Given Melee beat FFX before the retarded Nintendo boosts, I'm inclined to agree with Soul. The winner of Brawl/Melee (aka Brawl) is essentially the winner of the contest, barring something weird and out of left field.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 10/13/2010 9:20:14 PM | message detail
Do we have a clear reading as to how strong RE4 is? For some reason I feel like it can beat FFX. Not that it will, but that it will be very close. Do we have any evidence against that?
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/13/2010 9:26:20 PM | message detail
Do we have a clear reading as to how strong RE4 is? For some reason I feel like it can beat FFX. Not that it will, but that it will be very close. Do we have any evidence against that?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2995
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3728
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