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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/12/2010 3:28:33 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 6:14:56 PM | message detail
Speaking of trend charts, would anybody be interested in putting them on each match page? I know that they've been done for 2008, but I have them all from SC2K6, if anybody wants to format them and put them on match pages.


A while back, I actually put up the trend charts for SC2K8 on this page:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdFBGSVNfbGFjSHVjVndYeHJwTkVKc1E

I could do that for the other contests that Leon has done trend charts for.
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machinegungeek | Posted 10/12/2010 3:29:28 PM | message detail
Wait, so everyone is 100% it's GSC and not just Crystal like on the bracket, 'cause it makes a huge difference imo...

And FFXII is hated by all FF fans. Crisis core got this sheet.

Any read on the Devil May Cry games?
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 3:30:58 PM | message detail

From: machinegungeek | #202
Wait, so everyone is 100% it's GSC and not just Crystal like on the bracket, 'cause it makes a huge difference imo...


Yes.

On the bracket entry page, hover the mouse over Crystal and it'll give the whole name of the game.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/12/2010 3:31:02 PM | message detail
The read on DMC is that none of them are in position to do anything other than the obvious.

3 kills in the first round, loses.

1 loses to KotOR
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/12/2010 3:31:51 PM | message detail
*loses in the 2nd.
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machinegungeek | Posted 10/12/2010 3:57:28 PM | message detail
Yeah, I noticed the hover thing right after I posted. Thanks. So consensus is MP > DMC3? It's what I have right now, but it pains me....

Oh and KOTOR > DMC? Really? Are the games really that hated here. I mean DMC made action games.... I guess, to me, it depends on if KOTOR and Diablo overlapped. If not, I'm pigheadedly going DMC.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2010 6:48:18 PM | message detail
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/12/2010 7:36:43 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1417

Mario aside (which can be easily explained by LoZ), this looks about right for late 2003...and I can't find any Sonic games released between SA2:B and this poll.


Sonic never had a good transition from 2D to 3D, but he wasn't hated back then. SA2 was a great game with some problems but was liked/loved by the fanbase. The games following that was when Sonic became as hated as it is right now.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/12/2010 9:03:21 PM | message detail
A problem with the PotD switch over again today. I hope it gets fixed before the contest starts.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 9:11:23 PM | message detail
Maybe Bacon's planning on the doing contest matches at these times, and he's getting it ready...!
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/12/2010 9:13:32 PM | message detail
if he is

then what times do new polls start up?
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/12/2010 9:14:10 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/gotd.html

"For each poll, two games will battle it out, and the winner will move on. With 127 battles to run, there will be two battles per day - one from 9:00PM to 9:00AM Pacific Time, the second from 9:00AM to 9:00PM, with only the final two rounds being full 24-hour votes."

He better not change his mind and turn GSC vs MGS3/4 into a night match. >_>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 9:16:56 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #212
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/gotd.html

"For each poll, two games will battle it out, and the winner will move on. With 127 battles to run, there will be two battles per day - one from 9:00PM to 9:00AM Pacific Time, the second from 9:00AM to 9:00PM, with only the final two rounds being full 24-hour votes."

He better not change his mind and turn GSC vs MGS3/4 into a night match. >_>


Bracket change bracket change bracket change

Do it do it do it
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/12/2010 9:42:21 PM | message detail
He better not change his mind and turn GSC vs MGS3/4 into a night match. >_>

Who are you picking in the Brawl/Melee match? And why? Thanks in advance.
HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2010 9:42:30 PM | message detail
SB better get to fixing this.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/12/2010 9:48:12 PM | message detail
Not again. At least it gives this poll a chance to at least reach 60000 votes, since no poll since the 9/15/2010 poll has failed to break 60000 votes. There hasn't been a confirmation from Bacon on these poll problems, or if he intentionally changed the poll starting time. The last poll started at 3:58 PM EST.

Also, there was a small spike in the number of incoming votes right after 12:00 AM EST. I found that to be interesting. Here were the vote totals per update for the several updates prior to and after the 12:00 AM EST closing time:

11:45 PM - 266
11:50 PM - 274
11:55 PM - 250
12:00 AM - 241
12:05 AM - 355
12:10 AM - 321
12:15 AM - 305
12:20 AM - 334
12:25 AM - 275
12:30 AM - 292
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/12/2010 10:20:11 PM | message detail
The poll got changed earlier. It happened around 1:08 AM EST.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/12/2010 10:31:02 PM | message detail
Who are you picking in the Brawl/Melee match? And why? Thanks in advance.

SSBM since I think older games will have the advantage in this contest.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/12/2010 10:37:15 PM | message detail
Well Brawl was underestimated rather badly last contest, not to mention Brawl winning this contest makes too much sense.
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I have no idea how Metroid: Other M got any scores lower than 60%.
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/12/2010 10:57:48 PM | message detail
BTW surely it's okay if I don't care about "battle" picks, right? I don't even fully understand how they work (but to be fair I haven't taken the time to do so).
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I have no idea how Metroid: Other M got any scores lower than 60%.
AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/12/2010 11:05:12 PM | message detail
SSBM since I think older games will have the advantage in this contest.

Nice, I was thinking the same thing. Now I'm a lot more confident!

Well Brawl was underestimated rather badly last contest, not to mention Brawl winning this contest makes too much sense.

Anyone who underestimated Brawl last time was out of their mind haha..But yeah, Brawl could still win. It's just really hard to pick it against Melee. I think Melee will win the Neutral vote, if only based off all the Wii hate. Melee has the nostalgia factor, which seems to be especially powerful among Nintendo fans, and I think the SBB community in general still sees Melee as the preferred game..

BTW surely it's okay if I don't care about "battle" picks, right? I don't even fully understand how they work (but to be fair I haven't taken the time to do so).

I don't think anyone cares about battle picks haha!
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/13/2010 12:31:27 AM | message detail
I don't think Brawl or Twilight Princess will attract any Wii hate. Maybe Brawl will be anti-voted somewhat due to being a more mainstream game.

Plus Brawl looked stronger last time no?
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I have no idea how Metroid: Other M got any scores lower than 60%.
AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/13/2010 12:52:32 AM | message detail
I don't think Brawl or Twilight Princess will attract any Wii hate. Maybe Brawl will be anti-voted somewhat due to being a more mainstream game.

Plus Brawl looked stronger last time no?


Brawl is like the Wii game though. I don't know, I'm just trying to picture a 360/PS3 fan, and why he might choose one over the other. No way of really knowing and everyone is different, but I just keep picturing them saying, " meh **** the Wii! " Haha.. But who knows

They both looked strong, but why do you say Brawl looked stronger? I mean maybe, but it definitely wasn't blatant by any means..
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/13/2010 3:53:42 AM | message detail
Super Mario Galaxy will probably be attracting anti-votes from anti-Wii people the most since it's basically the Wii's mascot aside from the Wii series.

Can't see Smash Bros. getting so much hate though. It's not particularly well known enough among those who aren't Nintendo fans.
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luigi4500 | Posted 10/13/2010 4:18:46 AM | message detail
Guys what is a good tiebreaker ball park number?
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 10/13/2010 4:44:59 AM | message detail
Brawl really looked better last time, and I think Brawl will get some votes from Metal Gear and Sonic fans. They're probably very equal in contest strengh, though one might actually SFF the other to the ground. Older games might do better, they useally do, but I went with Brawl in the end anyways.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 10/13/2010 4:50:54 AM | message detail
In Melee/Brawl I went with Brawl myself.Now I don't know anything about these games so I chose at random.Melee has a higher change to win though I believe.
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voltch | Posted 10/13/2010 4:53:40 AM | message detail
SSBM/SSBB
MGS3/MGS4
KH/KHII

i wonder if the older game will win each of these encounters.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/13/2010 4:58:21 AM | message detail
...I'm starting to have second thoughts about taking GSC to the semis. That RBY/GSC poll looks pretty damn good...but then you take a look at this...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3463

And have to wonder if GSC isn't way, WAY weaker than we think it is even post-remake boosting. I mean, this is its true, unadulterated strength, and it's much less impressive than keeping it close with its big brother RBY. There's nothing leeching it here, at least in obvious fashion: if anything, you'd expect FFT to hurt MGS, and yet it beat GSC comfortably. Aren't we massively overestimating it? Getting solidly beaten by an MGS sharing the poll with another beloved PSX title and a (admittedly very weak) game with a similar style in Deus Ex just doesn't seem convincing. MAYBE it's enough to win the Majora division (and quite possibly not enough period), but absolutely not good enough to beat MGS4
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/13/2010 4:59:23 AM | message detail
*Or MGS3 for those going with Snake Eater. In any case it's not enough to take the winner of the Gear division.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/13/2010 5:03:30 AM | message detail
Wow you're like the first person to suggest Pokemon GS's performance against MGS wasn't that good.

GSC always has the possibility of losing to MGS4 and looking at the BOP it's a popular upset.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 10/13/2010 5:10:47 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | Posted: 10/13/2010 8:03:30 AM | #231
Wow you're like the first person to suggest Pokemon GS's performance against MGS wasn't that good.

GSC always has the possibility of losing to MGS4 and looking at the BOP it's a popular upset.


Haha, very funny, but the point I'm trying to make is that that performance is vastly underwhelming when you compare it to its R2 showing...and that it's possibly enough to let WW or MM dispatch it. WW in particular has a seriously good eye-test in how it stood up to Melee, in spite of it being more or less more popular than the next 3 ninty GCN games combined. How much is Charizard's performance against Mario worth here? Is it enough to get GSC to the semis, or are we just a bit blinded by the whole "perfect storm" thing we saw in Winter 2k10 and GSC is going to flop relative to our expectations, Starcraft style?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2010 5:31:26 AM | message detail
If you'd take something over G/S/C, you better hope it'll have a close match with MGS at least. That's the way I see it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/13/2010 5:43:48 AM | message detail
I was being serious, almost no one I've known has called GS's performance against MGS anything short of good, the only critique I've heard was that FFT may have held MGS back a lot.

MGS is considered to be in the running to be in the top 10 and GSC got almost 47% on it.
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Intanos VI | Posted 10/13/2010 6:19:35 AM | message detail
Is MGS considered the strongest MGS then?
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/13/2010 6:29:10 AM | message detail
Battle Picks will require much more strategy to win than the Bracket! Bracket just requires making a few lucky picks in controversial matches, while Battle requires knowing the optimal times to bank.
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Intanos VI | Posted 10/13/2010 6:31:54 AM | message detail
^ Or no one banking at all right till the end so get a super duper multiplier going. Too risky though but i'm sure someone'll do it.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/13/2010 6:42:50 AM | message detail
You want to try to get a high multiplier going at one point to catapult you into the lead, but you have to be very careful where you do it. Considering there aren't many gaps where people will successfully score huge batches of points, pulling off a big run will be huge and greatly increase your chances of winning.

I'm still working on my strategy for it. I think the Battle will end up being more interesting than the Bracket, but I doubt many people here will follow it, which is just fine for me!
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/13/2010 7:15:10 AM | message detail
The contest is fresh enough with so many unknown games that the people that intelligently bank are the ones that will come out ahead.
Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/13/2010 7:32:48 AM | message detail
Has there been any discussion on TF2/Fable?

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/13/2010 8:05:21 AM | message detail
The winning bracket will require a long streak at some point. My strategy will be is to be cautious in the first round and go all out after that.

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red sox 777 | Posted 10/13/2010 9:21:09 AM | message detail
MGS1 is the strongest MGS game, yeah.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/13/2010 9:51:28 AM | message detail

From: Dilated Chemist | #240
Has there been any discussion on TF2/Fable?


Yeah. TF2's weak, and Fable's been kind of impressive in other polls, but most people are siding with TF2 because it's Valve and Fable's never made a contest.

For the record, I'm going with Fable in my bracket and mulling over whether I pick it in Battle or just bank my 600 points for that match.
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TRE Public Account | Posted 10/13/2010 10:16:49 AM | message detail
...I'm starting to have second thoughts about taking GSC to the semis. That RBY/GSC poll looks pretty damn good...but then you take a look at this...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3463

And have to wonder if GSC isn't way, WAY weaker than we think it is even post-remake boosting. I mean, this is its true, unadulterated strength, and it's much less impressive than keeping it close with its big brother RBY. There's nothing leeching it here, at least in obvious fashion: if anything, you'd expect FFT to hurt MGS, and yet it beat GSC comfortably. Aren't we massively overestimating it? Getting solidly beaten by an MGS sharing the poll with another beloved PSX title and a (admittedly very weak) game with a similar style in Deus Ex just doesn't seem convincing. MAYBE it's enough to win the Majora division (and quite possibly not enough period), but absolutely not good enough to beat MGS4


Keep in mind MGS3/4 vs GSC is a day match:
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3463&type=1&seconds=60&max=0

Cut off the first half of the match and GSC is right behind MGS.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/13/2010 10:22:45 AM | message detail
I'm going with Fable, but its probably a biased pick. I really don't have any idea how it'll go though. Its not like Fable needs to be very strong to beat TF2, though.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/13/2010 10:25:22 AM | message detail
I think I agree that it's probably easier to get a long streak in later rounds than the first. The first round has lots of unknowns, which are always inherently unpredictable.
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voltch | Posted 10/13/2010 10:41:46 AM | message detail
whoever goes perfect in round 1 though, geez, hard to beat that kind of person, they'll end up with a pretty big advantage.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/13/2010 10:49:41 AM | message detail
MGS1 is the strongest MGS game, yeah.

How sure are we about this?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2010 10:54:29 AM | message detail
MGS1 is sort of assumed to be the strongest, but I really doubt it was that far ahead of MGS4 last time.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/13/2010 11:10:47 AM | message detail
Well MGS did perform slightly better on OoT than FFX which defeated MGS4 so you would have to predict that MGS4 has gone up in strength, but then you'd have to consider MGS4/GSC > FFX.
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