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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/12/2010 8:43:37 AM | message detail
Or just Zelda series sucking it up. It's not like the other Nintendo characters looked horrible, and some were downright impressive (Hello Falcon, Samus, and Pokemon!).
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/12/2010 8:49:28 AM | message detail
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/12/2010 8:51:10 AM | message detail
He scored less on Mario? Looks like he scored more to me.

He scored less in 2010 than in 2008, but more in 2010 than in 2007. Mario looks like he fell quite a bit in 2008, so that makes sense.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/12/2010 8:52:45 AM | message detail
Every Noble 9er sans Samus and Mega Man had at least one awful performance in 2010. Even Snake acted a fool against Pikachu, and many people thought he disappointed against Protoman as well.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/12/2010 8:54:46 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #104
Every Noble 9er sans Samus and Mega Man had at least one awful performance in 2010. Even Snake acted a fool against Pikachu, and many people thought he disappointed against Protoman as well.


To be fair, Pikachu had every possible reason to overperform against Snake in that match. And it doesn't hurt Snake's cred that Charizard goes and pulls an even closer percentage against freaking Mario.

Not that I'm complaining that Pikachu and by extension Commander Shepard look great in the x-stats as a result! Let's go Pikachu > Squall!
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/12/2010 8:59:12 AM | message detail
Well, Snake/Pikachu had good reason to be strange, and we saw it coming. Clinkeroth had a terrible year in 2010- they didn't have just one bad match, they were consistently below their historical levels in pretty much every match.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/12/2010 9:34:41 AM | message detail
Yeah I think every non-fodder (fodder meaning stupid kids like Layton) Nintendo character in 2010 who was not from Mario or Zelda ended up impressing, no?
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/12/2010 9:38:51 AM | message detail
Wow, Falcon would have a close match with Leon Kennedy?

Well.. I guess it should be an interesting contest
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 9:44:34 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #108
Wow, Falcon would have a close match with Leon Kennedy?

Well.. I guess it should be an interesting contest


Eh, probably not. The sprite round killed Leon last contest. He's probably just a little below Ryu and Dante overall.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/12/2010 11:34:06 AM | message detail
so what are the big matches people are talking about
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/12/2010 11:38:18 AM | message detail
I think Sunshine/Halos has gotten more talk than any other grouping. So weird.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/12/2010 11:43:39 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #111
I think Sunshine/Halos has gotten more talk than any other grouping. So weird.


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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/12/2010 12:04:16 PM | message detail
Let's get more discussion on one point matches that don't matter!

SA2/SFIV?
Emerald/GTAIV?
WWF/FE?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/12/2010 12:09:48 PM | message detail
Anything GTA will lose to anything Pokemon (main franchise). No Mercy will beat Fire Emblem, and SA2 will beat SF4.

Now then, let's talk more about Sunshine!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 12:10:36 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #114
Anything GTA will lose to anything Pokemon (main franchise). No Mercy will beat Fire Emblem, and SA2 will beat SF4.


Two outta three ain't bad!
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Articuno2001 | Posted 10/12/2010 12:12:10 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #115
Two outta three ain't bad!


You mean three out of three!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/12/2010 12:14:17 PM | message detail
I've got about a week to decide whether to put Pokemon in the finals, out at the semifinals against FFX, or out against an OoT-proxy Majora's Mask. OoT-proxy Majora's Mask sounds so sexy, too.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 12:15:35 PM | message detail
If Majora's Mask is going to be an OoT-proxy, you might as well make FFX an FFVII-proxy!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/12/2010 12:16:52 PM | message detail
Why do you think MM will become a proxy when we've already seen it in action and it sucked?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 12:18:13 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #119
Why do you think MM will become a proxy when we've already seen it in action and it sucked?


Nintendo is invincible!

Also, hiveminds
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/12/2010 12:19:16 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #118
If Majora's Mask is going to be an OoT-proxy, you might as well make FFX an FFVII-proxy!


That's Crisis Core, dude!

Also, TP will be OoT-proxy, since they its the one Zelda most similar to OoT in the contest!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/12/2010 12:19:59 PM | message detail
I don't think it will become a proxy. I think there's a tiny chance that it underperformed last time and can use the 1v1 format to do better this time. Good enough to beat Pokemon? Very very doubtful, but I think the chance is there.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/12/2010 12:27:09 PM | message detail
Can't wait for the Super Smash Bros-proxy vs the Super Smash Bros Melee-proxy match!
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2010 12:34:45 PM | message detail
I'm still not sold on Pokemon Crystal beating Majora's Mask, when the only thing suggesting it is a really weird SFF situation. Not to mention the fact that Zelda fans need a game to rally behind, and noone likes WW or TP.
XxSoulxX | Posted 10/12/2010 12:39:37 PM | message detail
I'm still not sold on Pokemon Crystal beating Majora's Mask, when the only thing suggesting it is a really weird SFF situation. Not to mention the fact that Zelda fans need a game to rally behind, and noone likes WW or TP.

Zelda fans are Nintendo fans. They'll rally behind some other Nintendo game.

And it's funny how you mention that no one likes WW/TP when Majora's Mask is the most disliked 3D mainline Zelda game. lol turtle
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2010 12:42:07 PM | message detail
Okay, I get SF4 is no pillar of strength, but why does anybody have any faith in SA2 here? Here's a pair of telling polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3997
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3938

People get that SA2 isn't the Sonic most people enjoy, and even adding Battle to the end of it wouldn't help matters much either:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1128

You're entitled to believe name-brand could still help it, and it surely does to some degree; it's my bet on why SA2 ever overturned this loss:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=767

There's your name-brand value: the ability to not be forgotten as quickly as Shenmue and PSO. I wouldn't take either one of them to get close to SF4, and SSF4 probably didn't hurt it here either.


So, where's the pro-SA2 argument coming from?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/12/2010 12:45:25 PM | message detail
SFII easily lost to Sonic twice and SFIV tied Persona. I have no reason to think about that match, and no amount of mental gymnastics can get me to a SFIV win. Non-Smash fighters are just terrible on this site.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 12:45:35 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #126
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3938


Oh come on, why do people keep bringing this poll up? It's about as useful for contests as this (also Sonic-related) poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2762

That poll isn't asking "Which of these games is your favorite?" It's asking "Which of these games would you like to see on a current-gen console?" I imagine a lot more people here own SA2B than own Shenmue, so it makes sense they have no use to see it ported again.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/12/2010 12:45:56 PM | message detail
Those polls are all horrible Harrich. Going back to 2002 to prove a point isn't worth it. That second poll with two extremely cult DC only games coming close to Sonic doesn't do much for your case either, considering it's an old poll with like 10+ options (cult games always perform better in matches/polls like that). Also getting SFFed in that Nintendo poll doesn't prove anything either because it's not fighting a Nintendo game here.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 12:46:51 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #129
(cult games always perform better in matches/polls like that)


Why do people say things like this that aren't true?

Cult games still get smashed in GOTY polls.
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Big Bob | Posted 10/12/2010 12:48:35 PM | message detail
RSE isn't beating GTAIV. That's easily the weakest pokemon generation, against possibly the strongest GTA game.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/12/2010 12:50:03 PM | message detail
an old poll

If that poll is old, the last contest was eons ago.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2010 12:58:37 PM | message detail
Sonic had a BIG reason to over-perform in that SSBB-poll due to years of hype coming from one of the biggest gaming pranks known, not to mention the idea of Mario VS Sonic being a selling point to most gamers. That poll's not a fair comparison to this, plus it ignores the reputation the Sonic Adventure games started giving 3D-Sonic that he's never been able to shake since.

I'll also question how many gamers really have SA2. It was a Dreamcast-exclusive where the Sonic game couldn't even come close to winning the GotY-award on Sega's system, and it's not like Shenmue or PSO are huge classics or anything. This also isn't an isolated incident either; SA1 wasn't far from being quadrupled by Soul Calibur in the year of the Dreamcast's launch:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=32

The Gamecube port could have only done so much too if it was doubled by SMS while MP and three other Nintendo games were in the same poll.


SF2 did lose to Sonic twice, granted. I'd still bank on SF4 being considerably closer to SF2 than SA2 being to the strongest 2D-Sonic we've seen (still holding hope for S&K!). If SF2 lost to Sonic 3, we could maybe talk, but let's not joke around and think 3D-Sonic's close to 2D-Sonic. Again, SSF4 came after BGE2 and probably helps SF4 too, so SA2's chances look worse from there.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2010 1:00:53 PM | message detail
To me, SA2/SF4 was settled when SF4 almost lost to Persona for no apparent reason. The fact that SF2 also lost to a Sonic game is also pretty telling, and those results are far more useful than polls from 2002. Will SA2 be a bastion of power? Probably not, but I can't see it losing to Persona. Although SSF4 is definitely a reason to go for the upset. Especially so since the winner of that match has a great shot at beating Unfarted.
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2010 1:02:05 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=32

The Gamecube port could have only done so much too if it was doubled by SMS while MP and three other Nintendo games were in the same poll.


lol harrich
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 1:03:34 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #133
I'd still bank on SF4 being considerably closer to SF2 than SA2 being to the strongest 2D-Sonic we've seen


Well, that doesn't really matter considering the strongest 2D Sonic is stronger than SF2!

I'd also say you're wrong because GameFAQs doesn't care about fighting games that aren't Smash Bros. or SF2, and it doesn't even care about SF2 that much.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3397

I mean, 70% of the site doesn't even want the game? That's worse than WoW numbers!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3866

Inspiring performance from SSFIV here, too.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722

That Persona 4 match doesn't really feel like a fluke when you see stuff like this.

That poll's not a fair comparison to this, plus it ignores the reputation the Sonic Adventure games started giving 3D-Sonic that he's never been able to shake since.


Also, that's not entirely true. That reputation didn't really start until after SA2.

Regardless, that poll of "What game do you want on this system?" is still useless.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2010 1:17:36 PM | message detail
I wouldn't take SA2 > Persona 4, either! They were just a few votes apart, so I'm not going to bother threading the needle there.


From: LeonhartFour | #136
Also, that's not entirely true. That reputation didn't really start until after SA2.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1417

Mario aside (which can be easily explained by LoZ), this looks about right for late 2003...and I can't find any Sonic games released between SA2:B and this poll.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2010 1:33:30 PM | message detail
Noone's saying SA2 will be strong, but we're talking about Street Fighter 4 here. Sonic can get by on name alone. SA2 isn't a fan-favourite, but it's not the steaming turd that some of his other 3-D games have been. That's more than enough to outdo something that lost to a Persona game. Seriously, I had no idea what Person was until that contest.
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/12/2010 1:38:38 PM | message detail
Lame, Bacon is running a poll today that will only be run for 8 hours total. Yesterday's poll could have ran for a full 48 hours if Bacon chose not to change the poll. Since yesterday's poll remained open even after the normal poll closing time due to a glitch. Overall, yesterday's poll ran for a total of 40 hours.

It would have been fun to try and how many more votes a poll would have gotten with an extra 24 hours. Yesterday's poll would have finished around 66270 votes. If yesterday's poll went for the full 48 hours, it would have finished around 89000 votes. Which would have been about an extra 23000 votes with the extra 24 hours in that poll.

Using the 89000 vote estimate for yesterday's poll if it went the full 48 hours and the 66270 vote estimate if that poll closed last night at 12:00 AM EST, it would be possible to estimate the number of votes for a 48 hour contest match. You just need to know the ratio between the two numbers.

89000 / 66270 = 1.34

So the ratio is 1.34 and you could multiply any vote total by that ratio to get a general idea of the final vote total in a 48 hour match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2010 1:43:23 PM | message detail
Really, all I'm saying is that the Sonic-series hasn't meant **** this decade in the least little bit here. I can't find a single GotY-poll where it's ever looked good, and goodness knows there were several polls here where its brand-name should have stuck out or Sega favoritism should have helped it:

1999:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=32
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=35
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=38

2001:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=767

2002:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1127
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1128

2004:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1869


I can't even find anymore after 2004 despite numerous titles like Sonic Heroes, Sonic 2006, Shadow the Hedgehog, Mario & Sonic At The Olympics, and Sonic Unleashed...and they're probably snubbed for good reason. The only good thing he's known for this decade by most people is being playable in SSBB...and he's still pretty terrible in that. His series' popularity is absolutely just a Genesis-phenomenon, and I say this owning and liking SA2:B.

You can still say whatever you like about SF4, and it's hard to disagree about it being some very weak game too. That said, the Sonic-series is a series known for not being the same since it went 3D, and Sonic's been trying 3D time and time again for over a decade reminding us that it's not the Genesis-era anymore.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2010 1:46:34 PM | message detail

From: Wii_TuRtLe | #138
Noone's saying SA2 will be strong, but we're talking about Street Fighter 4 here. Sonic can get by on name alone. SA2 isn't a fan-favourite, but it's not the steaming turd that some of his other 3-D games have been. That's more than enough to outdo something that lost to a Persona game. Seriously, I had no idea what Person was until that contest.


Show me a poll where Sonic's name-power has mattered for a Sonic-game not on the Genesis to date.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/12/2010 1:48:23 PM | message detail
SF2 losing to Sonic 1 is what made me take Sonic in this match. Though I wouldn't really be surprised if SF4 won, or even if Persona 4 beat a 3D Sonic game.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 1:58:39 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #137
I wouldn't take SA2 > Persona 4, either!


That sounds like a personal problem to me!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 1:59:27 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #140
I can't find a single GotY-poll where it's ever looked good


Good luck finding a non-Dreamcast GOTY poll for Sonic that isn't a port/compilation/whatever.

They don't exist.

Seriously. I looked.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 2:00:22 PM | message detail
And really, why are we arguing about Sonic's name power when it clearly has more than Street Fighter?

Seriously, this site doesn't care about fighting games.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/12/2010 2:07:15 PM | message detail
I think what Harr meant about SF4 being closer to SF2 than 3D Sonic being closer to 2D Sonic is a valid point, but there's just simply no way to prove that. I think the winner of the match will ultimately answer that question. If it's the same amount, Sonic wins, if Street Fighter is closer by a significant margin, SFIV wins.

It really seems to me that Sonic just has all the tangibles... including the tangibles to fail due to 3D Sonic just having a bad name in general. 3D Sonic characters are also going to be a heck lot weaker than 2D ones.


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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2010 2:07:27 PM | message detail
It doesn't care about Dreamcast games either then.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/12/2010 2:07:44 PM | message detail
Going back to RSE/GTAIV I'm surprised that RSE is the overwhelming favourite, you have to believe pokemon has shot up and GTAIV is weaker now than it was in 2k9.

Could happen, but not likely enough for people to take RSE 2:1
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2010 2:08:27 PM | message detail
Of course they don't. If SA2 was a Dreamcast exclusive, I wouldn't be giving it a chance to do anything here.

But this is a battle of series whose golden years are looooooooong behind them, despite attempts at Renaissance. Any arguments you make against SA2 can be made to SFIV.

Seriously, this is like a mirror match.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/12/2010 2:09:38 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=580

If we're going to use 10 year old polls, may as well use this one too. SA2 actually looks pretty good. If it's still like this, I'd take it with ease.
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