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charmander6000 | Posted 10/11/2010 2:41:00 PM | message detail
Yes because two games from opposite sides of the bracket is the same as two games from the same division. Half-Life 2 is depended on Twilight Princess while God of War is depended on Oblivion. Any LFF that those two games experienced were pretty minimal, heck you could argue that GoW had the worse end.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 2:51:33 PM | message detail
It doesn't matter. The 2009 Games Contest stats are a jumbled mess, and we all know why that is.
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ESY16 | Posted 10/11/2010 2:53:19 PM | message detail

From: neonreaper | #398
What didn't they fix in MW2?


First, you should probably state which version you are referring to. If you are talking about the PC version then this question is so utterly preposterous that it isn't worth an answer.

If you are talking about the console versions then it is still a silly question but might at least be worth an answer.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/11/2010 2:59:30 PM | message detail
It doesn't matter. The 2009 Games Contest stats are a jumbled mess, and we all know why that is.

The degree of seperation between the two games isn't that great and if it's a jumbled mess then why bother to bring up defeated FFXII/lost to ToS.

Half-Life 2 is the favourite for a reason, but saying FO3, MP or GoW have no chance would be wrong since all the games were comparable last year.
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transients | Posted 10/11/2010 3:00:24 PM | message detail
wait, when did HL2 gain favourite status over FO3?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2010 3:01:31 PM | message detail
I'm doing my writeup for HL2/Fallout 3 right now in the other topic, and HL2 in no way should be the favorite. Fallout 3 looked a clear step ahead last year - you need to factor in some intangibles and prayers if you want to take that.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 3:03:06 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #404
if it's a jumbled mess then why bother to bring up defeated FFXII/lost to ToS.


Except it's got nothing to do with "where did they rank in the stats" as it does with "I'll still take FFXII over ToS, regardless of what the stats say."
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ESY16 | Posted 10/11/2010 3:06:34 PM | message detail

From: transients | #405
wait, when did HL2 gain favourite status over FO3?


Yeah, I'm wondering this as well.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/11/2010 3:07:46 PM | message detail
wait, when did HL2 gain favourite status over FO3?

It's not, but it should be.

New Vegas seems to be making FO3 the huge favourite in the BOP.
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neonreaper | Posted 10/11/2010 3:08:09 PM | message detail
If you are talking about the console versions then it is still a silly question but might at least be worth an answer.

Sure. I mean, I could whine and rattle off complaints about the game left and right, but the game isn't broken.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 3:08:57 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #409
It's not, but it should be.


Why?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2010 3:09:50 PM | message detail
Portal got 44.8% against Fallout 3 last contest. Half-Life 2 isn't that much stronger than Portal, and New Vegas > trickle-down Valve strength.

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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/11/2010 3:19:04 PM | message detail
Theres absolutely no reason for HL2 to be the favorite. Half Life 2 struggled to beat FINAL FANTASY XII last contest, while Fallout 3 demolished CoD4. I'd take CoD4 to be able equal to Half Life 2, myself. Maybe a tiny bit weaker. It shouldn't be a question, really. Its gonna be a 55-45 match, especially since New Vegas will be big on the site during the contest.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/11/2010 3:27:19 PM | message detail
35% on Brawl or 40% on TP.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/11/2010 3:28:31 PM | message detail
Or better yet, it looks like they like similar percentages on TP/MGS4.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/11/2010 3:33:02 PM | message detail
The kill streaks in MW2 are completely unbalanced, and definitely take away from the game. Not to mention the rampant spawn camping and general douchebaggery. The casuals will still flock to play it, but I'm willing to be the GameFAQs crowd are the type that would stop playing it.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2010 3:39:46 PM | message detail
MW2's path seems pretty set, anyway.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/11/2010 4:10:57 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #417
MW2's path seems pretty set, anyway.


Not really, Dissidia definitely has a chance at the upset, though I'm thinking MW2 can scrape by.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 5:09:18 PM | message detail
Dissidia would've been an intriguing upset somewhere else in the bracket, but not against MW2.
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Smuggernaut | Posted 10/11/2010 5:17:24 PM | message detail
oh my god black turtle i'm going to rupture my spleen if you don't stop making me laugh so hard
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Smuggernaut | Posted 10/11/2010 5:20:15 PM | message detail
also MW2's match is like 3 or 4 days before black ops comes out
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/11/2010 5:34:52 PM | message detail
The casuals will still flock to play it, but I'm willing to be the GameFAQs crowd are the type that would stop playing it.

Wouldn't it be the GameFAQs crowd who are abusing the lack of balance and having fun stomping the casuals?
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/11/2010 5:37:37 PM | message detail
Wouldn't it be the GameFAQs crowd who are abusing the lack of balance and having fun stomping the casuals?

Why would Gamefaqs be good at FPS when they prefer jrpgs and Nintendo games?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2010 5:59:37 PM | message detail
MW2 is a GotY winner. Yes, I think Western shooters that appeal to different gamers than those who frequent GameFAQs may get hit with anti-voting, but not enough to lose to PSP games. Not when they've freakin' won Game of the Year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 6:00:51 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3726

Seriously, why is anyone considering Dissidia?
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/11/2010 6:12:38 PM | message detail
Why would Gamefaqs be good at FPS when they prefer jrpgs and Nintendo games?

GameFAQs overall prefers Nintendo and JRPGS but that doesn't mean there aren't a lot of FPS fans here as well. They just get outnumbered by the other fanbases. Even if there weren't that many here, I would still expect a GameFAQs FPS fan to be better on average than casual FPS fans.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/11/2010 6:24:49 PM | message detail
Okay so Portal > FFXII is the general consensus on this board right now?
HaRRicH | Posted 10/11/2010 6:25:39 PM | message detail
Leonhart beat me to bringing up 2009's GotY again. This was nine months ago andMW2 nearly quadrupled it. Taking Dissidia to win despite us bringing this up time and time again will only make me laugh harder...and taking MW2 to win in a close one isn't much better.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2010 6:27:13 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #425
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3726

Seriously, why is anyone considering Dissidia?


To be fair,

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2622

Does anyone take FFXII to get more than 56%-ish on Okami?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 6:29:52 PM | message detail
I wouldn't pick FFXII over KHII anymore either. FFXII is one of those games that just came out two months before that poll was run, and people were still high about it. Over time, people have realized, "Well, this game wasn't as great as we thought," and it's lost some favor. Okami's one of those games that's gained favor over time.

Okami still lost pretty easily to Halo 2 and WoW though, so FFXII could probably get somewhat close to 60% there.
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transients | Posted 10/11/2010 6:31:11 PM | message detail
FF games are like that. look at FF10/Melee.

even more of a reason to hate on Dissidia!
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/11/2010 6:31:50 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #429
To be fair,

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2622

Does anyone take FFXII to get more than 56%-ish on Okami?


I think 2004's a better example of old GotY's not meaning much...but either way, there's a difference between one coming on four years old and one that was from earlier this year. Also, Okami's had a port since then.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2010 6:32:36 PM | message detail
Okami gets 44% on ToS (through the same opponent with no LFF involved in the matches), and I'm not even sure if FF12>ToS, so I doubt it goes that high.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 6:33:56 PM | message detail
I'd take FFXII > ToS without thinking. It's not gonna win that match, regardless of what the stats say.
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transients | Posted 10/11/2010 6:34:12 PM | message detail
new IPs in general take a while to gain traction. Okami getting stronger over time makes sense. Batman is the same way. Mass Effect, too.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/11/2010 7:34:59 PM | message detail
Only looking at stats from a four-way contest will burn a lot of people this year.

Example: Tales of Symphonia vs God of War. Tales might not even beat Resident Evil 5.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 7:36:14 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #436
Only looking at stats from a four-way contest will burn a lot of people this year.

Example: Tales of Symphonia vs God of War. Tales might not even beat Resident Evil 5.


Acting like 4-way contests are completely irreconcilable with 1-on-1 contests will burn a lot of people, too.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/11/2010 7:37:40 PM | message detail
Forgot to give a counter-example of why stats might matter as well, sorry:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3471
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3493

Fallout 3 smokes WoW 1v1, Portal probably beats Halo 2. Not sure on Okami vs Halo 3 but it doesn't matter. It's hard comparing those two polls and then giving MGS3 an advantage. The fans would basically need to turn on 4 for 3 to win.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/11/2010 7:38:12 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #437
Acting like 4-way contests are completely irreconcilable with 1-on-1 contests will burn a lot of people, too.


So will picking FFX to win! <3
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 7:39:17 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #438
The fans would basically need to turn on 4 for 3 to win.


MGS3 wasn't that far behind MGS4 last time looking at FFX, RE4, and TP.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2010 7:42:35 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3470
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4049

Something tells me there's not much to worry about.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/11/2010 7:42:37 PM | message detail
Oh no doubt. I'm picking 3, stats be damned.
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transients | Posted 10/11/2010 7:45:30 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3490

this match bugs me about MGS3. this is just not a good performance.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2010 7:47:52 PM | message detail
Why? It's not like Oblivion went out and tanked the next round.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 7:48:52 PM | message detail
Yeah, Oblivion got 39% on TP the next round. People are considering Oblivion > Wind Waker a sexy upset pick for a reason.
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transients | Posted 10/11/2010 7:48:57 PM | message detail
would you take Oblivion over Fallout 3?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3493

better competition and outperformed MGS3.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 7:49:41 PM | message detail
Nah, I wouldn't pick Oblivion > Fallout 3, but I don't expect MGS4 to be that strong anymore either. That game seemed like it lost a lot of favor really quickly within the last year or two.
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transients | Posted 10/11/2010 7:51:09 PM | message detail
well it's like I said on The Show. MGS4 gets more people playing it and it's assumed to get weaker. that's just weird.

that and the fact that board 8 is so crazy about MGS3 gives me pause. it kinda seems like we're picking 3 because we like it more.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/11/2010 7:52:11 PM | message detail

From: transients | #447
well it's like I said on The Show. Brawl gets more people playing it and it's assumed to get weaker. that's just weird.

that and the fact that board 8 is so crazy about Melee gives me pause. it kinda seems like we're picking Melee because we like it more.


I know, right?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/11/2010 7:53:12 PM | message detail

From: transients | #448
well it's like I said on The Show. MGS4 gets more people playing it and it's assumed to get weaker. that's just weird.

that and the fact that board 8 is so crazy about MGS3 gives me pause. it kinda seems like we're picking 3 because we like it more.


Board 8 siding with favorites?

SHOCKER

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