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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:43:53 PM | message detail
Also http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3726

hahahahaha
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/9/2010 8:43:57 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4050

Sims loses to Gears 2.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3472

Shadow of the Colossus beats Gears 1.


You're bad.
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/9/2010 8:49:07 PM | message detail

From: AppreciateTrees | Posted: 10/9/2010 11:14:00 PM | #274
Some of these guys man, they just can't look past stats, EVER.


Well, that's pretty much all we have for some games. "Common sense" doesn't work on GameFAQs.

.. Unless-- *shot*
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/9/2010 8:59:52 PM | message detail
SotC vs The Sims is like Gordon Freeman vs Phoenix Wright. You know SotC is going to win for certain, but you still want to pick the off-the-wall option just because.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/9/2010 9:02:14 PM | message detail
Eh I don't know if that comparison works, Wylvane. Phoenix is Board 8's mascot. No one here really cares one way or the other about the Sims.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/9/2010 9:05:20 PM | message detail
XD at the last poll option winning today's poll. Man, what a difference between these 2 polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4059
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1844
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/9/2010 9:20:16 PM | message detail
TWEWY vs. Dead Rising...I wouldn't bet on DR. After that, there's TWEWY vs. Persona 4...most of us seem to think that TWEWY is stronger than Street Fighter IV, which beat Persona 4 last contest, so...yeah. I actually have Persona 4 > TWEWY in my bracket right now but I think I'm going to change it...
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I have no idea how Metroid: Other M got any scores lower than 60%.
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 9:23:17 PM | message detail
where the hell did you guys get a TWEWY > Persona 4 comparison from
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/9/2010 9:23:46 PM | message detail
I think TWEWY will bomb. Cult handheld game? At least Dead Rising 2 just had a sequel come out. The first is probably a bit obscure enough for TWEWY to have a chance, but with 2 out, I don't know.

I think Persona 4 would crush TWEWY easily, and I'd probably choose it over Dead Rising too. Still need to think about that one.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 9:23:48 PM | message detail
Nowhere.

LMS doesn't speak for all of us.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/9/2010 9:37:31 PM | message detail
Most of us apparently (I say "apparently" because I wasn't here at the time) hated how TWEWY was replaced by SFIV in the last games contest, leading me to think that we were under the impression of TWEWY > SFIV. As SFIV beat Persona 4, that would mean that TWEWY > Persona 4, right?

Another thing to ask: if Dead Rising was even decently strong (meaning high fodder) how come it didn't make the bracket last time? Okay, for another comparison...how well should Dead Rising do against Phoenix Wright?
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I have no idea how Metroid: Other M got any scores lower than 60%.
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 9:38:16 PM | message detail
No, we were upset about it because Bacon basically bypassed his rule about "Hey, people need to be pretty much overwhelmingly in favor of this for it to happen" and stuck SFIV in there anyway.
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ZFS | Posted 10/9/2010 9:43:41 PM | message detail
most of us seem to think that TWEWY is stronger than Street Fighter IV

Whoops.

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 9:46:48 PM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #311
Most of us apparently (I say "apparently" because I wasn't here at the time) hated how TWEWY was replaced by SFIV in the last games contest, leading me to think that we were under the impression of TWEWY > SFIV. As SFIV beat Persona 4, that would mean that TWEWY > Persona 4, right?

Another thing to ask: if Dead Rising was even decently strong (meaning high fodder) how come it didn't make the bracket last time? Okay, for another comparison...how well should Dead Rising do against Phoenix Wright?


Look at the 2004-2006 section of BGE and ask yourself why it didn't get in again.

And Phoenix Wright would beat Dead Rising, as it would TWEWY
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 11:04:52 PM | message detail
oh
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2010 11:10:08 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #276
It's been many years, but I believe BT has been dethroned.

How is this possible?


Nah, AT (feel dirty even using these initials on him!) just isn't using logic and is trying to hard to be whatever about it. BT makes up his own logic and defends it, and he does it just right. BT's still wearing the crown.


With that, I'm gonna lay off for awhile and be kinder again.
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Heroic Common Sense | Posted 10/9/2010 11:24:15 PM | message detail
And yet you all still respond to everyone who acts intentionally inflammatory (especially if they use an alt) instead of just ignoring them.
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/9/2010 11:29:57 PM | message detail
I dont really respond to people who act supposedly "intentionally inflammatory" but seeing what the 'flamers' and how people respond to them is entertaining
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 10/9/2010 11:50:48 PM | message detail
I have no idea what to say then. I suppose Persona 4 > Dead Rising is the consensus for the finals of that fourpack.

Again I just don't know. I see Dead Rising as the Mega Man creator's stab at creating a Resident Evil game (the main difference being the more comical depiction of zombies), and while Capcom itself is rather popular on this site the Mega Man games looked weak and I'm not about to bet on Dead Rising being stronger than them, especially what with the...hey wait a minute...yep, time to change to Persona 4 > Dead Rising.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/10/2010 12:03:17 AM | message detail
I did it.

I took Arkham Asylum out of its division, and finally losing to Half-Life 2.

In Batman I trust.
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ESY16 | Posted 10/10/2010 2:57:30 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #320
I did it.

I took Arkham Asylum out of its division, and finally losing to Half-Life 2.

In Batman I trust.


Really? I have absolutely no confidence in Arkham Asylum beating Fallout 3. Also, I assume this means that you think HL2 > Fallout 3. Is that the consensus on the board?

I know it isn't a contest poll, but this poll does nothing to convince me that AA can take out Fallout 3:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722
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ShatteredElysium | Posted 10/10/2010 3:06:41 AM | message detail
All that poll tells me is that there clearly is not enough BlazBlue love in the world!
voltch | Posted 10/10/2010 3:12:26 AM | message detail
TWEWY cult handheld...it's a square game made by nomura!

Belt and Zippers factor!
But seriously Dead Rising was an exclusive right? I reckon that kinda limits it with the growing size of the ps3 fanbase it prolly lacks voters from there.
TWEWY was on the DS which everyone has and on an RPG oriented site like gamefaqs, it'll prolly have a decent fanbase.

heck come to think of it,the more popular western games prolly all have RPG elements like Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Bioshock.
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yoshifan823 | Posted 10/10/2010 4:43:50 AM | message detail
It has been what, 2 years since TWEWY came out? I haven't seen it on any store shelves in over a year, and that's counting both new and used. I get the feeling the game had a really small print run. Plus, Dead Rising 2 just had a sequel come out, as well as the fastest/most (can't remember which) selling Downloadable game of all time, and the sequel is out for both PS3 and Xbox 360.

TWEWY is gonna bomb so hard.
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paulg235 | Posted 10/10/2010 5:04:00 AM | message detail
I don't even know why we are even talking about TWEWY winning here. I had it in my bracket when entrys first opened, but then I changed it simply because I told myself after the last contest to never side with TWEWY. If the game's main character easily loses to LAHARL, then I can easily see Dead Rising taking this one.
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voltch | Posted 10/10/2010 5:13:18 AM | message detail
Sarah Kerrigan is a chump, Starcraft hehe.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/10/2010 5:23:07 AM | message detail

From: paulg235 | #325
I don't even know why we are even talking about TWEWY winning here. I had it in my bracket when entrys first opened, but then I changed it simply because I told myself after the last contest to never side with TWEWY. If the game's main character easily loses to LAHARL, then I can easily see Dead Rising taking this one.


Characters=/=games, especially since there were other factors in that match perhaps. Laharl looked pretty good last time too, for some reason.

Anyway, the reason TWEWY winning is possible is because it's a game with a very dedicated fanbase that did well in the GotY polls against a game that sold well but nobody really cares about. Basically this match is more liked vs. more played.

Also if you want to bring the Character Battle into it, Sho Minamimoto did better in the vote-in polls that Frank West did.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/10/2010 6:28:42 AM | message detail
TWEWY got owned by Littlebigplanet, which bombed in the last BGE.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/10/2010 6:38:10 AM | message detail
And Frank West at least looked on par with Neku. He may have even grown. 38% on Ama is waaay better than getting doubled by Ada Wong.


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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/10/2010 7:03:59 AM | message detail

From: MarioSuperstar | #328
TWEWY got owned by Littlebigplanet, which bombed in the last BGE.


Yeah, because MGS4 was in the poll! You know, the single worst opponent for LBP?

From: MarioSuperstar | #329
And Frank West at least looked on par with Neku. He may have even grown. 38% on Ama is waaay better than getting doubled by Ada Wong.


He definitely did not. He sucked horribly in the vote-ins for the last Character Battle, with the Dead Rising name attached. As I said, Minamimoto did better than he did, with a stronger poll to boot.
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paulg235 | Posted 10/10/2010 7:06:07 AM | message detail
I wouldn't take the vote-ins too seriously. With so many characters in those polls, the smallest of dedicated fanbases can easily stand out.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/10/2010 7:40:02 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2626

Roughly 30.3% on Oblivion and 18.1% on a souped-up Gears of War isn't too shabby for Dead Rising. I realise it's only an 06 GOTY poll, but it does suggest the game has some fans. Recent sequel is enough to make me gamble on it over TWEWY.

Also, in the "Which scheduled September release are you most looking forward to?" poll, Dead Rising 2 did nearly 3% better in Europe than across the world, which would appear to suggest a strong night vote. TWEWY/DR is a night match, while a possible DR/Persona 4 match would be a day match.

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/10/2010 8:01:01 AM | message detail

From: Kotetsu534 | #332
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2626

Roughly 30.3% on Oblivion and 18.1% on a souped-up Gears of War isn't too shabby for Dead Rising. I realise it's only an 06 GOTY poll, but it does suggest the game has some fans. Recent sequel is enough to make me gamble on it over TWEWY.

Also, in the "Which scheduled September release are you most looking forward to?" poll, Dead Rising 2 did nearly 3% better in Europe than across the world, which would appear to suggest a strong night vote. TWEWY/DR is a night match, while a possible DR/Persona 4 match would be a day match.


Not a horrible performance, but TWEWY did better in its poll.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3350

I'd definitely take Chrono Trigger over Oblivion, DS version or not, and it also had much stronger competition outside the top 3 games in the poll. There's no denying that TWEWY did better on its poll. I think the real question is how much the sequel will help Dead Rising.

Also TWEWY is a Square RPG. The night should be its best time. Conversely, Dead Rising should do better in the day because it's more of a casual game. If it does beat TWEWY I'll take it over Persona 4 partially for that reason.

But what I'm saying about this match is that it's all about raw popularity against reception. I think I'll change to Dead Rising though if the seque doesn't drop out of the site's top games fast.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/10/2010 8:06:26 AM | message detail
Chrono Trigger DS didn't look so hot once it had some actual competition

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3363
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/10/2010 8:11:58 AM | message detail
Yeah, because MGS4 was in the poll! You know, the single worst opponent for LBP?

The game really is just that weak. It's not that we haven't seen proof of this already.

He definitely did not. He sucked horribly in the vote-ins for the last Character Battle, with the Dead Rising name attached. As I said, Minamimoto did better than he did, with a stronger poll to boot.

Maybe in a vote-in which you shouldn't base any concrete result on. He actually placed higher than him in the actual contest in either 08/07 (can't remember).
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/10/2010 8:14:16 AM | message detail
I'd definitely take Chrono Trigger over Oblivion, DS version or not

What? The DS version clearly is nothing like the console version. I'm pretty sure oblivion would do better than 5% in the final vote off.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/10/2010 8:14:18 AM | message detail
The fact that it was a GOTY poll probably killed it. Even I hesitated a little bit to vote CT as GOTY for 2008. It still beat Crisis Core though!
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2010 8:23:06 AM | message detail
The game really is just that weak. It's not that we haven't seen proof of this already.

Too bad all the "proof" has LBP going up against MGS4. It took until Sackboy/Kratos Aurion before anything LBP related got a fair match and we all know what happened.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/10/2010 8:30:43 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3999

Series aren't necessarily equal to games but it should at least beat Ratchet and Clank, right?

I'm not sure why people still think MGS4 somehow SFF'd a game it has no relation to genre wise. All anyone's ever said was because of PS3's small base, but it has certainly increased since then. If it has, then that doesn't make TWEWY look any better if it faced a weaker version of LBP.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2010 8:39:12 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3999

Series aren't necessarily equal to games but it should at least beat Ratchet and Clank, right?


The R&C series is quite extensive, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that I don't consider LBP to be a series quite yet.


I'm not sure why people still think MGS4 somehow SFF'd a game it has no relation to genre wise. All anyone's ever said was because of PS3's small base, but it has certainly increased since then. If it has, then that doesn't make TWEWY look any better if it faced a weaker version of LBP.

Like you said the PS3 at the time had a smallish base and back then one of the few reasons to actually buy it was to get MGS4. At the same time the base wasn't that small, it's like saying the Gamecube and Xbox had a small base, true when you compare it the PS2, but they did well for themselves. While it faced a weaker version of LBP we don't really know how strong it is now.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2010 8:40:35 AM | message detail
Or for that matter we don't even know how strong/weak it was back then either.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/10/2010 8:41:33 AM | message detail
Then again, platformers on Sony consoles have never done well for themselves any way.

And it didn't just lose to Ratchet and Clank. It lost to other series it probably would have no business losing to if you think it's significantly stronger than that MGS4 match.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/10/2010 8:43:38 AM | message detail
Those series polls really shouldn't be taken to mean anything.

Pokemon beat Mario, for instance.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2010 8:47:22 AM | message detail
Then again, platformers on Sony consoles have never done well for themselves any way.

And it didn't just lose to Ratchet and Clank. It lost to other series it probably would have no business losing to if you think it's significantly stronger than that MGS4 match.


You could also spin it that a single game was able to do so well against series with multiple games.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/10/2010 8:47:56 AM | message detail
They can be taken to find the general area or prestige the game falls under. Do you really think losing to Wild Arms, Gran Turismo, and Twisted Metal is any sign of being "underrated" at all?
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2010 8:56:07 AM | message detail
Personally I don't think the poll means anything since it's pretty much 5 games vs. 1, a bit unfair don't you think?
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2010 8:56:55 AM | message detail
Not to forget any potential SFF/LFF.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/10/2010 9:11:46 AM | message detail
Well, the original reason LBP was brought up was because it's the only game TWEWY faced that was also in the last BGE. LBP shows potential (at least in that year) to be pretty weak, and if that's the case, TWEWY doesn't have many reasons to win.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/10/2010 9:17:43 AM | message detail
Really? I have absolutely no confidence in Arkham Asylum beating Fallout 3. Also, I assume this means that you think HL2 > Fallout 3. Is that the consensus on the board?

I know it isn't a contest poll, but this poll does nothing to convince me that AA can take out Fallout 3:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3722


This is a good poll, actually. Fallout 3 easily beat MW, so theres no reason to think Batman can beat FO3 if MW2 slaughtered it.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2010 9:21:39 AM | message detail
And it isn't that hard to see that MGS4 being in the poll didn't help.

As for TWEWY this is Dead Rising's match to lose, but I wouldn't be surprised if it lost. Frank West was pretty weak, but at the same time the game isn't really about the characters I would think.
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