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Eeeevil Overlord | Posted 10/9/2010 6:04:26 PM | message detail
"Guys, Demon Souls is at Atlus game. Atlus is cult by definition. And yes, I would take Tales of Vesperia to beat Demon Souls... its at least got a series with fans to back it. I'm not sure Demon Souls really has that. Do people forget that Demon Souls did absolutely horrible in every poll its had here or something?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3622
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3718
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3724

It seems to be close to Infamous, and would any of us take Infamous to beat Mega Man 9? I sure wouldn't."


Firstly, the hype poll's pretty much worthless since DS came out of nowhere. Secondly, in the "best PS3 game of the year" it puts up close to 60% on inFamous, and while it is a much closer margin in the New Original Title poll it's being LFF'd by Dragon Age pretty hard (it may be a Japanese RPG but it plays much closer to Dragon Age than Dragon Quest, let's put it that way). Thirdly, I'd probably at least say inFamous has a shot at beating Mega Man 9. Maybe I'm not giving the Mega Man brand name enough credit (I am European after all), but from what I can tell inFamous was a lot more popular than what is essentially just a Downloadable game, even if it is arguably the king thereof.

Side-note: regardless of who wins out of Demon's Souls and Mega Man 9, look out for the UK vote given that we don't give two ****s about Mega Man (as a general rule) and Demon's Souls was a powerhouse over here. DS could be looking at, like, a tripling here <_<.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/9/2010 6:09:44 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #242
Yeah, in hindsight, he's never really been much of a cake eater.

He's has his fill of humble pie though!


I think you guys have had way more humble pie than I, but who's keeping track?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/9/2010 6:11:06 PM | message detail
All this Demon Soul talk will be over on the first day when Fallout 3 gets over 70% on inFamous. My only response will be:

lol ps3 exclusives
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2010 6:11:19 PM | message detail
Pretty sure everyone has had a nice slice of pie one time or another.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/9/2010 6:20:01 PM | message detail
Majora's Mask isn't exactly the whitest sheep in the herd either.

As far as I'm concerned: MM is the black sheep in Zelda. Most people like it because it is so very, very different from other Zelda games. Though there is an argument about Zelda 2 someone else can make.

The only Zelda games I can think of getting hate are the DS games. That's when you start to hear honest criticisms about a Zelda title.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/9/2010 6:29:14 PM | message detail
We have very little idea how Demon's Souls has been received in Europe since it wasn't released there before any of the polls it's featured in took place (it's done worse in Europe than the worldwide average on all occasions). As MM9/DS is a night match, this would actually be very helpful information, given MM's poor night vote.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/9/2010 7:30:13 PM | message detail
All this Demon Soul talk will be over on the first day when Fallout 3 gets over 70% on inFamous. My only response will be:

lol ps3 exclusives


It wouldn't really mean much because Demons Soul's at least has a reason to gain in popularity.

.. It also wouldn't tell us how weak or strong MM9 is.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/9/2010 7:41:48 PM | message detail
All this Demon Soul talk will be over on the first day when Fallout 3 gets over 70% on inFamous. My only response will be:

lol ps3 exclusives


Fallout 3 is easily getting 75%+ in the first match. Don't forget New Vegas comes out on Oct 19th, and first match is 12:00 AM October 20th. Fallout will be beasting
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 7:42:47 PM | message detail
I really wonder how many huge blowouts we're getting in this contest. You pretty much have to be a really obscure game to get tripled or worse in this contest, I think. That's what we've seen from games this decade in the past two contests.
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NoDicePwn | Posted 10/9/2010 7:49:01 PM | message detail
Well, Dragon Age was able to get like 68% or so I think on Infamous, and I'd take Fallout 3 to smash Dragon Age, so I think 75% especially on the heels of New Vegas is easily gettable. Overall, I think we're gonna be getting a lot of blowouts, just because of how weak a lot of these games are. Like almost every significant game round 1 is gonna be looking like elite games.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/9/2010 7:59:49 PM | message detail
ROFL why do so many people think Demon's Souls > MM9?

That's even worse than TWEWY > Dead Rising.. You guys are bad.
Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/9/2010 8:01:41 PM | message detail

From: Kotetsu534 | #256
We have very little idea how Demon's Souls has been received in Europe since it wasn't released there before any of the polls it's featured in took place (it's done worse in Europe than the worldwide average on all occasions). As MM9/DS is a night match, this would actually be very helpful information, given MM's poor night vote.


It was big in sales and online here, I can say that at least. Also that reminds me, Demon's Souls sold very well and if the Mega Man 9 sales here are accurate, better than that. Plus DS will naturally have a lot of staying power and looked pretty good in the latter two polls BT posted.

I actually took Mega Man 9 but I might change to Demon's Souls because of BT's arguments.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:02:05 PM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:02:38 PM | message detail
Oh nevermind. I read your post wrong!

Good move.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:02:44 PM | message detail
screw my topic i'm just going to argue about stuff in here

also demon's souls won't win
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/9/2010 8:02:55 PM | message detail

From: AppreciateTrees | #261
ROFL why do so many people think Demon's Souls > MM9?

That's even worse than TWEWY > Dead Rising.. You guys are bad.


Check the previous polls TWEWY and Dead Rising have been in. Dead Rising is not exactly a powerhouse. If not for the sewuel it wouldn't even be in question, TWEWY would basically be a lock.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:07:38 PM | message detail
I fail to see how any of TWEWY's previous polls have even been impressive. There's really nothing to go off of for either of them, and neither seems at all impressive.

JustinCrossing 9:06 pm
(9:06:55 PM): can you get me the vgchartz for twewy and dead rising
ryansaotome 9:07 pm
(9:07:38 PM): 2 million for dead rising, 530k for TWEWY
(9:07:40 PM): worldwide sales

Dead Rising 2 is just another nail in TWEWY's coffin.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:08:38 PM | message detail
Hurray sales numbers
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/9/2010 8:10:33 PM | message detail
Sims and Wii Sports, secret powerhouses
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 8:10:35 PM | message detail
The problem with backing MM9 is that Demon's Souls way outperformed it in the GotY polls. And that Mega Man 2/3 performed pretty lacklusterly last contest, and Demon's Souls might have beaten them. And that Mega Man 9 would be lucky to only be doubled indirectly by Mega Man 2/3. And that every downloadable game has tanked in every fashion. And that the match pic is going to be horrific for Mega Man 9.

So basically the problem with taking MM9 is everything.

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:11:10 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #268
Hurray sales numbers


okay let's assume that 60k people vote in a given match

you are now assuming that over 10% of the people that played TWEWY (sold 300k in NA) are going to be coming onto gamefaqs. now clearly this doesn't count for pirating, but well I think TWEWY would be hard to play on an emulator and I can't really say anything about legit pirating onto one of those r4 or whatever cards
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 8:12:40 PM | message detail
I think someone used that same logic for Symphonia, and well...

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:13:53 PM | message detail
Neku got 25,000 votes last year against Laharl.

I don't have a problem thinking TWEWY could get another 5000+ votes because not everybody who played TWEWY likes Neku enough to vote for him.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/9/2010 8:14:00 PM | message detail
I actually took Mega Man 9 but I might change to Demon's Souls because of BT's arguments.

Your probably better off just going with common sense. It doesn't matter how much its analyzed by these loons, or how many crazy 4-way polls or favorites polls they try to use as correlation for their psychotic logic, it still doesn't trump common sense. Some of these guys man, they just can't look past stats, EVER.
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:15:40 PM | message detail
AppreciateTrees who are you again. I'm thinking fetus but that doesn't feel right >.>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:15:43 PM | message detail
It's been many years, but I believe BT has been dethroned.

How is this possible?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/9/2010 8:16:51 PM | message detail
Well, Dragon Age was able to get like 68% or so I think on Infamous, and I'd take Fallout 3 to smash Dragon Age, so I think 75% especially on the heels of New Vegas is easily gettable. Overall, I think we're gonna be getting a lot of blowouts, just because of how weak a lot of these games are. Like almost every significant game round 1 is gonna be looking like elite games.

Here are the 2 polls it was featured in after it was released:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3718
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3724

Here was how Demon's Souls performed in Europe:

First poll: 3.25% below the world result
Second poll: 2.12% below the world result

I find it weird that Demon's Souls didn't perform worse than that in Europe, like with a pathetic percentage around 3% to 5%. Demon's Souls got around 10% in Europe in both of the above polls.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:18:11 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #273
Neku got 25,000 votes last year against Laharl.

I don't have a problem thinking TWEWY could get another 5000+ votes because not everybody who played TWEWY likes Neku enough to vote for him.


That's assuming everybody who voted actually played TWEWY. It's Disgaea vs. TWEWY. I would bet that at least 50% of voters hadn't played one or more of the games.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=12&pos=25

THEREFORE I ARGUE MATCHPICS
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:18:48 PM | message detail

From: Justin_Crossing | #278
That's assuming everybody who voted actually played TWEWY.


Oh good, then TWEWY can get those same votes against Dead Rising, too, plus some more.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 8:19:08 PM | message detail
That match pic was about as even as it could get.

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:19:56 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #279
Oh good, then TWEWY can get those same votes against Dead Rising, too, plus some more.


Imagine the ratio of people on the site who have played TWEWY to Disgaea to be 1:1

Dead rising would likely be at least 1:2
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:20:06 PM | message detail
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/The_World_Ends_With_You.jpg

vs.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c8/Deadrising_boxart.jpg/250px-Deadrising_boxart.jpg
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:20:39 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #280
That match pic was about as even as it could get.


Oh right isn't that the pic where I complained about the edges but nobody agreed with me or was that some other one.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:20:55 PM | message detail

From: Justin_Crossing | #281
Imagine the ratio of people on the site who have played TWEWY to Disgaea to be 1:1

Dead rising would likely be at least 1:2


And the people who've played neither will go with TWEWY! Higher seed, top option, etc.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 8:20:57 PM | message detail
And the if the ratio of people who liked TWEWY is 2:1, then the ratio of people who like Dead Rising is 1:2.

Polarizing game, that.

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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/9/2010 8:23:55 PM | message detail
AppreciateTrees who are you again. I'm thinking fetus but that doesn't feel right >.>

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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/9/2010 8:28:11 PM | message detail
Why are we arguing TWEWY Vs. Dead Rising again? Dead Rising 2 just came out. TWEWY is a DS only jRPG. There doesn't need to be anything else said about it. Dead Rising should win without breaking a sweat.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/9/2010 8:29:15 PM | message detail
Imagine the ratio of people on the site who have played TWEWY to Disgaea to be 1:1

Dead rising would likely be at least 1:2

And the people who've played neither will go with TWEWY! Higher seed, top option, etc.


They'll see a bunch of zombies and a badass vs some fruity looking anime characters. It's a niche marketing vs mass marketing.
AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/9/2010 8:32:03 PM | message detail
Why are we arguing TWEWY Vs. Dead Rising again? Dead Rising 2 just came out. TWEWY is a DS only jRPG. There doesn't need to be anything else said about it. Dead Rising should win without breaking a sweat.

They know that. It's not about what's the right pick, but the one that's more fun and challenging to defend. At least, that's what I'm starting to think.
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:33:24 PM | message detail
Leonhart who do you have for Golden Sun vs. R&C
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:34:00 PM | message detail
UYA, but that is admittedly a fanboy pick that I'm willing to throw away a point on.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:34:27 PM | message detail
Or 3, depending on who you ask.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 10/9/2010 8:34:32 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #291
UYA, but that is admittedly a fanboy pick that I'm willing to throw away a point on.


Ditto!
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:35:25 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #291
UYA, but that is admittedly a fanboy pick that I'm willing to throw away a point on.


Okay glad to see we agree on this.
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AppreciateTrees | Posted 10/9/2010 8:36:15 PM | message detail
At least that pick isn't blatantly wrong :D
Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/9/2010 8:39:32 PM | message detail
Also what do you guys have for SotC vs. Sims
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:40:51 PM | message detail
Shadow of the Colossus.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/9/2010 8:41:25 PM | message detail
I was gonna pick the Sims, but I saw some poll results for SoTC and it apparently has enough strength to win. Plus it's an amazing game, and the 2-seed.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 8:42:20 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4050

Sims loses to Gears 2.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3472

Shadow of the Colossus beats Gears 1.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/9/2010 8:43:24 PM | message detail
I don't like to take much from 4-way polls but.

That's about as clear cut as you're gonna get.
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