GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 914
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:20:46 PM | message detail |
I would take Isaac over Aurion purely because I refuse to pick Aurion and be wrong again. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png "SEXTON HILLBEAST" - TimJab |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:21:00 PM | message detail |
That's
not the same thing. We're comparing two Nintendo RPGs that came out
around the same time. There's going to be similarities and correlations
you can draw upon. --- DFF |
voltch | Posted 10/9/2010 1:21:21 PM | message detail |
By sales, WII SPORT GONNA MUUUUUUUUUURDER everything! --- Nipaa~ |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:22:54 PM | message detail |
If you want to look at polls here's one... http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3119 GS, the only Nintendo option loses pretty easily to KotOR which is around ToS's strength. 1. What makes you think GS is the exception, or better yet the reason why ToS characters are weak is because nobody can agree which ones they like, for GS that's not the case. 2. GS didn't exactly sell millions and millions. 3. Good to see that you think FFXIV would defeat all of those games. --- BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56645390 BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:23:01 PM | message detail |
Wii Sports pulling strength out of nowhere and beating Majora's Mask would be the best result this contest can possible give. Other than No Mercy winning the contest, of course. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png "SEXTON HILLBEAST" - TimJab |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:23:19 PM | message detail |
I
mean, this isn't rocket science. If you look at everything in
absolutes, you'll get nowhere. If you connect the dots, then you can
easily see the writing on the wall. I've never understood this weird mental block that people here have. If they haven't already seen it in a poll, if they haven't played it themselves, then it can't possibly be good! --- DFF |
Articuno2001 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:24:34 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #106 I played Golden Sun. I like Golden Sun. GTA is beating Golden Sun. --- 15th in Best Game Ever 2009 http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:24:57 PM | message detail |
1. ToS characters actually have fans. The Golden Sun cast is worthless. Isaac is only decent because of the game. 2. Absolute. 3. Absolute. --- DFF |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:25:48 PM | message detail |
That's fantastic. it has absolutely nothing to do with how any polls will go. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:28:42 PM | message detail |
1. ToS characters actually have fans. The Golden Sun cast is worthless. Isaac is only decent because of the game. More like ToS fans are split between which characters they like while GS fans are forced to support Isaac. No one is calling GS a weak game, just not as strong as ToS (which in itself is not a weak game). There's a reason why most people have it winning over R&C. --- BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56645390 BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:29:38 PM | message detail |
No one has given a good reason as to why it can't be as strong as ToS. "Because I said so" is not a good reason. --- DFF |
The Mana Sword | Posted 10/9/2010 1:32:34 PM | message detail |
Looks like I've got Golden Sun winning two matches. You guys better listen to KP. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2010 1:33:13 PM | message detail |
That
hype-poll's GS's best argument, though it's worth reminding that's not
the DS-game in question here...but here's another good poll for GS: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3119 Looking through this poll through, I don't know if it's enough. SW:KotOR didn't beat GTA3 by much, and the KotOR-series beat the GS-series pretty cleanly there despite KotOR2 being very disappointing. It's a sparking upset, but I still don't trust it enough. GTA:SA's not a joke, even if the series and the falls their games have taken are jokes. This is asking Golden Sun to be around MP and SMG in strength, and that's a lot to ask for even after considering it's a Nintendo-RPG on GameFAQs and MP/SMG are rather disappointing here for whatever reason. I trust it to impress, but winning's a tall order. --- "Support Epona because we've run out of good ideas." --Leonhart http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:34:30 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3119 For this poll, you have to remember context. Golden Sun actually finished the series. KOTOR II left everyone with a serious case of gaming blue balls. --- DFF |
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/9/2010 1:34:47 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=776 (no, i'm not being serious before you make fun of me for using an old poll) --- http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:35:55 PM | message detail |
It's a sparking upset, but I still don't trust it enough. I'd normally agree with this, but this is a) a day match, and b) on the date of Dark Dawn's release. --- Final Fantasy XIII review: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/review/R140434.html You're pretty good, Dr_Football. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:36:14 PM | message detail |
To me the match looks like this: On a normal day, Golden Sun would edge out San Andreas. Maybe. On the day the first GS game in 6 years comes out, this is not going to be close. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:36:28 PM | message detail |
You
can use that argument for any character/game. All you have to go is
take a step back and ask yourself, how well liked is this game and how
popular is it. It's like when people hyped Mega Man against Mario last contest after his performance in the earlier rounds. All those people had to do was ask themselves, would GameFAQs take Mega Man over Mario? If you want a more concrete answer, GS is a handheld game from a series that doesn't have much of a large base. --- BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56645390 BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:37:44 PM | message detail |
Sure.
I have taken a step back, and found that San Andreas got last in a poll
everyone took it to win.Obviously it has no fans. You can't argue
against this infallible logic. See, I can do it to! --- DFF |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2010 1:39:06 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #099 This is true, and very impressive. It's still not GS though. I get that the hype's generally going to be based off of the success of its previous games, but unless you think the original GS means more to GS-fans than the original SW:KotOR means to KotOR-fans, you're dealing with a situation where SW:KotOR probably beats GS worse than it beat GTA3...and GTA:SA's probably on-par with that in strength. There's wiggle-room and hope, but it's hard to say more than that definitively without relying on hype-polls. We don't normally trust them in most circumstances, so -- while this one's exceptional -- it's still sketchy. --- This sig-space should be replaced by any number of GameFOX-sigs I made to support Epona from LoZ:OoT to make the next Character Battle. |
Articuno2001 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:39:17 PM | message detail |
meh changed my bracket so GS wins two matches. I still stand by SMS > Halo 3/Halo and MM9> Demon's Souls (and after, Okami > MM9) --- 15th in Best Game Ever 2009 http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:39:53 PM | message detail |
Sure.
I have taken a step back, and found that San Andreas got last in a poll
everyone took it to win.Obviously it has no fans. You can't argue
against this infallible logic. People also need to get over that SA lost a poll that it was suppose to win. Like it was mentioned earlier SA is still at around Prime and SMG. --- BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56645390 BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:40:43 PM | message detail |
Harrich, the problem is, you shouldn't use that poll to 100% decide strength. Remember this? http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3197 Plus, it doesn't make sense to me that you would value an outdated anticipation poll over our newer one. --- DFF |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:41:14 PM | message detail |
Golden Sun would beat Prime and SMG, as would Tales of Symphonia and probably San Andreas. --- DFF |
SuperAngelo128 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:41:38 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #124 woah there --- ~ Ange |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2010 1:42:10 PM | message detail |
I'd normally agree with this, but this is a) a day match, and b) on the date of Dark Dawn's release. Ah, already forgot this point mid-argument, shame on me. What do we have on anything-GS's trends in the day-time? I'll need to check out Isaac sometime...anything else? GS:DD will help too, though I don't expect Pokemon-level antics. --- What do Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Twilight Princess have in common? EPONA! http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:43:06 PM | message detail |
Isaac is about average in the day. San Andreas is bad in it. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:43:36 PM | message detail |
Golden Sun would beat Prime and SMG, as would Tales of Symphonia and probably San Andreas. Yeah... we're getting to 40% territory against SSBM/SSBB/FFX just so you know. --- BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56645390 BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:45:00 PM | message detail |
MP got 36.6% against Kingdom Hearts. That is not anywhere close to 40% on those games. --- DFF |
HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2010 1:47:59 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #123 I learned my lesson the day Yoshi's Island beat it down, too! Besides, polls about re-releasing games and polls about releasing sequels are different to some degree. How bad does GS beat Paper Mario though? I think MP got ~62% on it. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg E-p-o-n-a |
voltch | Posted 10/9/2010 1:48:00 PM | message detail |
wowowowowowow, time out, nonononono golden sun, u serious bro? --- Uguu~ |
Articuno2001 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:48:11 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #124 hahahahahahahahahaha no. not even close. --- 15th in Best Game Ever 2009 http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:49:39 PM | message detail |
Prime and SMG are weak guys, we saw it last year! As for Paper Mario, I don't know. I don't think it got a fair chance in that poll - it was dealing with a stronger Nintendo game and a stronger RPG game. The Thousand Year Door did alright in the GotY poll, and the original is probably stronger, so I think the PM games are probably better than we think. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:49:45 PM | message detail |
MP got 36.6% against Kingdom Hearts. That is not anywhere close to 40% on those games. Even assuming Paper Mario did nothing to Metroid Prime and even if you make San Andreas equal to MP, ToS is expected to get about 37% on FFX and if you have GS winning over ToS you are getting pretty close. --- BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56645390 BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls |
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/9/2010 1:50:30 PM | message detail |
Potato, calm down. You're getting a bit too excited about Golden Sun here. --- http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:52:07 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #134 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1647 Sure, why not? --- DFF |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:52:37 PM | message detail |
From: NoDicePwn | #135 I hate bad arguments. --- DFF |
Articuno2001 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:52:38 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #133 SMG was dealing with other, strong Nintendo games in both of its matches (Brawl and Pokemon D/P). I wouldn't say it's weak at all. --- 15th in Best Game Ever 2009 http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 1:53:00 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #124 I think you're overhyping Golden Sun just a wee bit. You can get onto us for underrating it, but I think you're making a lot out of that anticipation poll. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3896 How badly do you think Galaxy 2 beats Red Dead Redemption now? I hear a lot of people thinking RDR could win GOTY here, not seeing a lot of support for Galaxy 2. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/9/2010 1:53:38 PM | message detail |
Golden
Sun beating Prime and Galaxy? Meh. That would be easier to believe if
we had some evidence other than a hype poll and selling more than ToS.
Like Charmander said, you can do that for many games. I'm just not seeing where the confidence is coming from. --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
NoDicePwn | Posted 10/9/2010 1:54:16 PM | message detail |
Pfft,
Red Dead Redemption isn't even making the Goty poll. FF13, Mass Effect
2 and New Vegas will all beat it in the multiplatform poll. Bank on it. --- http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:54:31 PM | message detail |
It's
coming from the fact that I have absolutely no faith in Prime and
Galaxy. ToS beats them, and if Golden Sun=ToS, it would beat them too. --- DFF |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 1:55:29 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #136 Do you really think FFX/FFTA goes that way now? Besides, FFTA rocked the GBA GOTY poll with Golden Sun in it that year. Plus, losing to Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga isn't exactly encouraging to me. But whatever, Golden Sun has a bunch of old polls and a hype poll. I don't like using any of those. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Articuno2001 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:55:33 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #142 Prime and Galaxy would both SFF ToS and win. I can't see ToS winning against most 1st party Nintendo titles. --- 15th in Best Game Ever 2009 http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 10/9/2010 1:56:47 PM | message detail |
There's
having no faith and there's not taking a step back and seeing that
while these games aren't bracket winners they're not as bad as what the
board made them to be last year. --- BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56645390 BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:56:51 PM | message detail |
Do you really think FFX/FFTA goes that way now? Why did it go that way then? But no, because FFTA doesn't seem to have withstood the passage of time. Golden Sun does. And Golden Sun 2 is not even close to Golden Sun 1. Golden Sun 2 didn't even make the contest. --- DFF |
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/9/2010 1:57:08 PM | message detail |
That's IF it equals ToS. So far, only one poll has made GS look better than Prime. One. I'm not just taking a hype poll. --- *is Dranze* Dr. Football swept me. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:57:41 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #145 Most people on this board seem to be hyping Galaxy and Metroid Prime. Only people who've looked at past results seem to think otherwise. --- DFF |
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/9/2010 1:57:54 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #142 I'd take Prime and Galaxy over ToS, God of War, and San Andreas. Those are three kinds of games (non-FF RPGs, action games, and GTA games) that aren't overly popular here. I don't think San Andreas is much stronger than GTA IV, if at all (or at least it wasn't in 2009), so I wouldn't take it over Galaxy either. Prime, who knows. I take it to lose to Galaxy, too, though. I don't think those two games are equal. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/9/2010 1:58:36 PM | message detail |
If
Golden Sun is equal to ToS, then it beats San Andreas with around 56%.
Day match, Dark Dawn releasing that day, ToS being a decent bit
stronger than San Andreas. if Golden Sun is a step below ToS, then it probably still wins just due to the game releasing on that day. --- DFF |
